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Angela - 25 Nov 2003 17:23 GMT
Such a tiny little pill to cause so much trouble! Cajun, is feeling better, and
now that he is, he remembers that he really doesn't care for me. Dean was
holding him, I was scruffing him and pilling him. Until yesterday morning when
Cajun managed to claw Dean pretty badly. (Still got him pilled)

Last night, I tried a tiny amount of lamb baby food with the pill inside. He
swallowed it. This morning, he refused it and the other cats converged to help
eat it. Dean said he wasn't holding him again, wished me good luck and left for
work. (Remind me to smack him when he gets home!) I couldn't get NEAR him, he
is semi feral and the only person who can pick him up is Dean. I used to be
able to pick him up a few times, but that was before I spent the weekend
pilling him.

I finally locked all the cats out of the front part of the house except Cajun
and put the baby food spoon with pill on the floor. He ignored it for about
half an hour. I finally scooped up the pill and walked over to where he was
commiserating with Doby through the closed door. Somehow, I managed to get the
pill down him by scruffing and pilling him quickly.

Maybe I'll try a different flavor of baby food tonight to encourage him to try
it. I don't know. Maybe put Dean in his leather jacket so he doesn't lose half
the skin on his stomach/chest again. (Dean is not the greatest of cat
restrainers, he tries, but he doesn't have the experience of working in a vet
clinic learning how to not lose skin. He has never had to hold a cat who was
serious about getting down before.  I'd hold Caj and let Dean pill but he can't
seem to get the pill DOWN his throat far enough. Add to the fact that these
cats are his kids and he really HATES having to help "torture" them,
well....you can see the problem.)

Any good ideas? Cajun is excellent at hiding and knows all the escape routes in
this house. He's not just your "normal cat", he retains his feral waryness
about me walking up to him, especially after I pilled him a few times.

Angela (Aol.com doesn't hop!)

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Judy F - 25 Nov 2003 17:52 GMT
Maybe Dean could scoop Cajun up with a blanket or towel and kind of roll him
up and hold him with that while you pill him? I've seen the vet techs do it
at my vet with one of my cats who really really protested being seen by the
vet...
Judy F

> Such a tiny little pill to cause so much trouble! Cajun, is feeling better, and
> now that he is, he remembers that he really doesn't care for me. Dean was
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Karen Chuplis - 25 Nov 2003 17:55 GMT
I wrap them in a towel with only the head sticking out.

Karen

> Such a tiny little pill to cause so much trouble! Cajun, is feeling better, and
> now that he is, he remembers that he really doesn't care for me. Dean was
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> www.rabbitadoption.org Rabbits & small animals for adoption--worldwide links,
> including vet referrals & other rescues, care tips, mail order products, etc.
kaeli - 25 Nov 2003 18:14 GMT
> Such a tiny little pill to cause so much trouble! Cajun, is feeling better, and
> now that he is, he remembers that he really doesn't care for me. Dean was
> holding him, I was scruffing him and pilling him. Until yesterday morning when
> Cajun managed to claw Dean pretty badly. (Still got him pilled)

If he had restrained him properly, he could not have been clawed.
Restraining the cat without hurting yourself or your cat is easier said
than done.
http://www.doctordog.com/catbook/1-14cvg.gif
This shows how to hold the cat so it cannot claw.
Make sure some of your (or his) weight is on Cajun's shoulder so he
can't be a squirmy wormy.

The rest of the page is helpful, too.
http://www.doctordog.com/catbook/cathand.html

You're just going to have to bribe him to help you again.  :)

I have found that liquid is easier to give than a pill. The cat doesn't
have to open its mouth for liquid. You can squirt it in between the
teeth (the gap behind the "canine" teeth) and let gravity do the work.

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Wendy - 25 Nov 2003 18:28 GMT
In article <20031125122307.03399.00000934@mb-m29.aol.com>,
jessicarbt@aol.comhop enlightened us with...
> Such a tiny little pill to cause so much trouble! Cajun, is feeling better, and
> now that he is, he remembers that he really doesn't care for me. Dean was
> holding him, I was scruffing him and pilling him. Until yesterday morning when
> Cajun managed to claw Dean pretty badly. (Still got him pilled)

If he had restrained him properly, he could not have been clawed.
Restraining the cat without hurting yourself or your cat is easier said
than done.
http://www.doctordog.com/catbook/1-14cvg.gif
This shows how to hold the cat so it cannot claw.
Make sure some of your (or his) weight is on Cajun's shoulder so he
can't be a squirmy wormy.

The rest of the page is helpful, too.
http://www.doctordog.com/catbook/cathand.html

You're just going to have to bribe him to help you again.  :)

I have found that liquid is easier to give than a pill. The cat doesn't
have to open its mouth for liquid. You can squirt it in between the
teeth (the gap behind the "canine" teeth) and let gravity do the work.

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I've had some success stuffing small pills in the same place you mention,
between the back teeth. Then just hold the mouth shut and massage the
throat. Wrapping them snuggly in a towel helps too.

Wendy
Karen Chuplis - 25 Nov 2003 21:00 GMT
> > Such a tiny little pill to cause so much trouble! Cajun, is feeling better, and
> > now that he is, he remembers that he really doesn't care for me. Dean was
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> Make sure some of your (or his) weight is on Cajun's shoulder so he
> can't be a squirmy wormy.

Easier to wrap in a towel:

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kaeli - 26 Nov 2003 13:59 GMT
> Easier to wrap in a towel:
>
> http://www.lbah.com/ear_cleaning.htm#fr

Unless your cat is like my cat - I have yet to be able to keep her in
one. She is squirmy as hell. heh

This is the cat it took 4 vet techs to restrain for anal gland cleaning,
though, so I think she's more the exception than the rule.

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Chris - 25 Nov 2003 20:37 GMT
Hello,
Do yourself and your pet a favor, check this site out all they have is all
natural remedies which can be put into the animals food or water.
www.felinemedicinechest.com
Good Luck,
Andrea
> Such a tiny little pill to cause so much trouble! Cajun, is feeling better, and
> now that he is, he remembers that he really doesn't care for me. Dean was
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> www.rabbitadoption.org Rabbits & small animals for adoption--worldwide links,
> including vet referrals & other rescues, care tips, mail order products, etc.
Karen Chuplis - 25 Nov 2003 21:48 GMT
SPAM
> Hello,
>  Do yourself and your pet a favor, check this site out all they have is all
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> > including vet referrals & other rescues, care tips, mail order products,
> etc.
liv - 25 Nov 2003 21:24 GMT
(snip)
>Any good ideas? Cajun is excellent at hiding and knows all the escape routes in
>this house. He's not just your "normal cat", he retains his feral waryness
>about me walking up to him, especially after I pilled him a few times.
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have both of you sneak up on him, hold him, practice restraining him,
and give him a treat, all iwthout the pill, and do this until the
whole thing becomes familiar to him, even fun (if possible). I don't
mean throw the treat down his throat, either, or fight, but...well, I
hope you understand what I mean.

liv
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