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Kate Orman - 25 Nov 2003 11:53 GMT
I adopted 5 1/2 yo Frank (with his partner in crime, Tim) about five
months ago. Frank snores, but he also breathes noisily through his nose
much of the time - he doesn't really purr, he snuffles. He's seen a
couple of vets and has a clean bill of health, but I haven't asked
specifically about his noisy breathing. It doesn't seem to bother him
in the slightest, but I wondered if it might be worth a trip to the
vet in case it's symptom of anything concerning. I'd be very grateful
for any advice, or stories of similar Snuffleupagus cats.

Cheers,
- Kate Orman
Angela - 25 Nov 2003 13:40 GMT
My Pongo snores quite loudly. She doesn't make any other sounds, just a loud
snoring while she is sleeping. It's loud enough to hear across the room!

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Luvskats00 - 25 Nov 2003 13:46 GMT
korman@zip.com.au
(Kate Orman) writes

>I adopted 5 1/2 yo Frank (with his partner in crime, Tim) about five
>months ago. Frank snores, but he >also breathes noisily through his >nose much
of the time-grateful
>for any advice

Wondering if he did this when you adopted him? Could he be allergic? I know I
have respitory problems in my apartment..my 2 cats seem to have watery eyes
when the heat gets turned on. It's radiator based heat w/on & off..no temp.
control.  The vet tells me not to worry about it since they (the cats) tear up
only at night w/the heat.
kaeli - 25 Nov 2003 14:23 GMT
> I adopted 5 1/2 yo Frank (with his partner in crime, Tim) about five
> months ago. Frank snores, but he also breathes noisily through his nose
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> vet in case it's symptom of anything concerning. I'd be very grateful
> for any advice, or stories of similar Snuffleupagus cats.

Are they flat-faced cats like some Persians and Himmies?


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Luvskats00 - 25 Nov 2003 22:49 GMT
tiny_one@comcast.com asks

>Are they flat-faced cats like some >Persians and Himmies?

No..one's a dsh (male) tabby and the other a dsh (female) tabby mix - if there
is such a thing <g
Laura R. - 26 Nov 2003 05:27 GMT
circa 25 Nov 2003 03:53:10 -0800, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Kate
Orman (korman@zip.com.au) said,

> I adopted 5 1/2 yo Frank (with his partner in crime, Tim) about five
> months ago. Frank snores, but he also breathes noisily through his nose
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> vet in case it's symptom of anything concerning. I'd be very grateful
> for any advice, or stories of similar Snuffleupagus cats.

Oscar, my buff DSH tabby, snores and breathes loudly whenever he's
really relaxed. Healthy as an ox (and about the size of one, too. ;-)
), and no respiratory issues. A vet once told me that this
occasionally happens after a cat has been neutered if the cat had
anesthesia via a throat tube, as I recall (it was years back). Dunno
if it's true or not, but I guess it's a thought.

In any case, if the cat is healthy, I wouldn't stress it.

Laura
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Wendy - 26 Nov 2003 12:15 GMT
circa 25 Nov 2003 03:53:10 -0800, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Kate
Orman (korman@zip.com.au) said,

> I adopted 5 1/2 yo Frank (with his partner in crime, Tim) about five
> months ago. Frank snores, but he also breathes noisily through his nose
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> vet in case it's symptom of anything concerning. I'd be very grateful
> for any advice, or stories of similar Snuffleupagus cats.

Oscar, my buff DSH tabby, snores and breathes loudly whenever he's
really relaxed. Healthy as an ox (and about the size of one, too. ;-)
), and no respiratory issues. A vet once told me that this
occasionally happens after a cat has been neutered if the cat had
anesthesia via a throat tube, as I recall (it was years back). Dunno
if it's true or not, but I guess it's a thought.

In any case, if the cat is healthy, I wouldn't stress it.

Laura

Cats tend to snore when they are overweight too. The snoring isn't a
problem - the extra weight however .......
korman@zipworld.com.au - 26 Nov 2003 22:42 GMT
>Cats tend to snore when they are overweight too. The snoring isn't a
>problem - the extra weight however .......

Thanks Laura and Wendy! Fear not - Frank is in good trim, and I plan to
keep him that way. (He gets plenty of exercise launching himself
ballstically at Tim on a regular basis. :-)

Kate Orman <korman@zip.com.au> http://www.zip.com.au/~korman/
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Wendy - 27 Nov 2003 00:06 GMT
Glad to hear he's nice and trim. My Tiggy used to snore as loud as the dh
before she dumped the extra weight.

W

In article <ZcGdnRn56NmlB1miRVn-ig@comcast.com>,
Wendy <wendy@nospam.com> wrote:

>Cats tend to snore when they are overweight too. The snoring isn't a
>problem - the extra weight however .......

Thanks Laura and Wendy! Fear not - Frank is in good trim, and I plan to
keep him that way. (He gets plenty of exercise launching himself
ballstically at Tim on a regular basis. :-)

Kate Orman <korman@zip.com.au> http://www.zip.com.au/~korman/
"I have no idea what that meant." - Dot Warner
Laura R. - 06 Dec 2003 17:49 GMT
circa Wed, 26 Nov 2003 07:15:44 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
Wendy (wendy@nospam.com) said,

> Cats tend to snore when they are overweight too. The snoring isn't a
> problem - the extra weight however .......

Oscar snored long before he got chubby.

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Kate Orman - 27 Nov 2003 11:42 GMT
And now, a view from the other direction. A couple of times, I've
noticed one of Frank's anal glands squirt out a couple of tiny
droplets. I've read all about impacted anal glands and the endless
joy they bring to cat and owner, so I've got an eye out for the
symptoms, but I'm not sure if I'm noticing anything abnormal here.
(There's no smell that I can notice.) Is this an early warning
sign, or just a normal hazard of looking at a cat from the wrong
angle? :-)

Thanks for any advice!

Cheers,
- Kate Orman
Wendy - 27 Nov 2003 12:52 GMT
There are three diseases that occur in the anal sacs.

1. When the fluid becomes thick and solidified, the condition is called
impaction.

2. When bacteria grow in this material producing a yellow or bloody pus, the
condition is called infection.

3. When the infection builds to create a hot, tender swelling in the gland,
the condition is called an abscess. When the abscessed material overflows
the sac or the duct leading to the sac becomes obstructed , the skin over
the sac breaks open, and the pus drains onto the skin.

What are the clinical signs?

Symptoms of anal sac disease are:

1. Scooting or dragging the anal area.

2. Excessive licking under the tail.

3. Pain, sometimes severe, near the tail or anus.

4. A swollen area on either side of the anus.

5. Bloody or sticky drainage on either side of the anus.

http://www.drpetra.com/Cats/Anal%20Sac%20Disease%20in%20Cats.htm

And now, a view from the other direction. A couple of times, I've
noticed one of Frank's anal glands squirt out a couple of tiny
droplets. I've read all about impacted anal glands and the endless
joy they bring to cat and owner, so I've got an eye out for the
symptoms, but I'm not sure if I'm noticing anything abnormal here.
(There's no smell that I can notice.) Is this an early warning
sign, or just a normal hazard of looking at a cat from the wrong
angle? :-)

Thanks for any advice!

Cheers,
- Kate Orman
korman@zipworld.com.au - 27 Nov 2003 21:20 GMT
>There are three diseases that occur in the anal sacs.

[the horrible details]

Cheers Wendy, but as I said, I'd read up on the symptoms and Frank doesn't
have any of them. I'm only wondering if the tiny, odorless squirts I've
noticed a couple of times are anything to worry about.

Kate Orman <korman@zip.com.au> http://www.zip.com.au/~korman/
"I have no idea what that meant." - Dot Warner
Wendy - 27 Nov 2003 23:01 GMT
was he bent out of shape when you noticed him "squirting"? Tiggy has done
that from time to time when she's not particularly happy with her lot in
life - anything from picking her up when she doesn't want to be to being
really ticked off. Sometimes the smell is gawdawful other times I just
notice she's a little "moist" back there. As long as there aren't any
symptoms I wouldn't worry about it.

W
In article <V6udnVdNKKxXblii4p2dnA@comcast.com>,
Wendy <wendy@nospam.com> wrote:

>There are three diseases that occur in the anal sacs.

[the horrible details]

Cheers Wendy, but as I said, I'd read up on the symptoms and Frank doesn't
have any of them. I'm only wondering if the tiny, odorless squirts I've
noticed a couple of times are anything to worry about.

Kate Orman <korman@zip.com.au> http://www.zip.com.au/~korman/
"I have no idea what that meant." - Dot Warner
korman@zipworld.com.au - 28 Nov 2003 06:15 GMT
>was he bent out of shape when you noticed him "squirting"? Tiggy has done
>that from time to time when she's not particularly happy with her lot in
>life - anything from picking her up when she doesn't want to be to being
>really ticked off. Sometimes the smell is gawdawful other times I just
>notice she's a little "moist" back there. As long as there aren't any
>symptoms I wouldn't worry about it.

Ta for the reassurance! No, it just sort of happened as he was jumping
onto the desk. I wouldn't even have noticed if he didn't stick his fuzzy
butt in my face. I'll just keep an eye out for anything more dramatic.

Kate Orman <korman@zip.com.au> http://www.zip.com.au/~korman/
"I have no idea what that meant." - Dot Warner
-L. - 28 Nov 2003 01:15 GMT
> I adopted 5 1/2 yo Frank (with his partner in crime, Tim) about five
> months ago. Frank snores, but he also breathes noisily through his nose
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> Cheers,
> - Kate Orman

This is quite common in Persians.  If he isn't a Persian or other
short-nosed breed/type, I'd be concerned about sinus infection or
asthma - buit most likely there would be other symptoms if the cat had
either of these.

-L.
korman@zipworld.com.au - 28 Nov 2003 06:17 GMT
>> I adopted 5 1/2 yo Frank (with his partner in crime, Tim) about five
>> months ago. Frank snores, but he also breathes noisily through his nose
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> vet in case it's symptom of anything concerning. I'd be very grateful
>> for any advice, or stories of similar Snuffleupagus cats.

>This is quite common in Persians.  If he isn't a Persian or other
>short-nosed breed/type, I'd be concerned about sinus infection or
>asthma - buit most likely there would be other symptoms if the cat had
>either of these.

I didn't think to mention his breed - he's a piebald DSH. He seems to be
in rude health. Especially when he sticks his butt in my face, that's very
rude. :-)

Cheers!

Kate Orman <korman@zip.com.au> http://www.zip.com.au/~korman/
"I have no idea what that meant." - Dot Warner
 
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