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How to keep a Water Bowl from freezing?

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Mr B - 25 Nov 2003 03:15 GMT
Howdy,

We have our stray cats that we take care of and are looking for a way to keep their water bowl from
freezing.  I have built them a house to live in which they like, but it just dropped to the 20s in
the past day or so and their water bowl freezes.

I'm guessing I could get some sort of thing made for Bird Baths but was wondering if anyone had
anything specific they have used.  I'm looking for the Cheapest solution I can find.  Any
suggestions woudl be great.

Thanks.
Gail - 25 Nov 2003 03:19 GMT
I would use the heater that is used in bird baths. Just make sure it is
secure in the tub so the cats won't knock it out.
Gail
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Karen M. - 25 Nov 2003 03:58 GMT
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Unfortunately there's only two ways to keep water from freezing - keep
the temperature above 32c, or keep the water moving. Both are going to
require an electric solution for you. Good luck, and how sweet of you to
build them a house. You know you could always post a picture for
everybody, hint hint. :)

K
Sherry - 25 Nov 2003 04:31 GMT
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I haven't priced one, but heated water bowls are available at about any pet
store or farm and ranch store. Another suggestion I'd like to suggest is a
product I found at Petsmart the other day, it's a flat, hard plastic mat, about
16" x 20". It has a steel wrapped cord and is specifically designed for
doghouses. It heats up to 102 degrees. They're kind of expensive, but would be
great and safe for your cat house.

Sherry
Rene - 25 Nov 2003 14:10 GMT
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We bought a heated water bowl a few years ago for our rabbit (RB,
2002), who lived in our enclosed, but unheated porch. It cost about
$35, was quite large, and had a steel wrapped cord. It worked great.

Rene
Mary - 25 Nov 2003 16:02 GMT
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I was thinking the same thing--wow, if the water is frozen, how about
the cats? Like us they are 90-some percent water. Good suggestion.
Gilbert Chew - 25 Nov 2003 16:59 GMT
"Mary" <rosefan@email.com> wrote in news:k2Lwb.10641$dl.1189666
@twister.southeast.rr.com:

> I was thinking the same thing--wow, if the water is frozen, how about
> the cats? Like us they are 90-some percent water.

According to this link:

http://www.boston.com/globe/search/stories/health/how_and_why/011298.htm

an average adult human body is only 50 to 65 percent water.
Priscilla Ballou - 25 Nov 2003 21:15 GMT
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I put one of those into the doghouse I fixed up for the ferals in my
back yard.  That and a bunch of old cushions.  

Priscilla
Mr B - 26 Nov 2003 02:07 GMT
I did look for the heated bowls and they are about $25 - $30 at Petco / PetSmart / etc.  I'll pick
one up tomorrow.

As for their house,  it's not drafty and there's at least 5 cats int here so I'm sure they can keep
relatively warm with their body heat and the blankets.  Their parents made it through last winter
without a house at all so it's an improvement at least. :)

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we used to put tennis balls in our fish pond where they move about it stops
all the top completely freezing over,  maybe you could try something like
that

Good luck

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Priscilla Ballou - 25 Nov 2003 21:14 GMT
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I got a heated bird bath with a detachable top, and I put that top down
on the patio.  All the local animals come and drink from it.  It's great
right after a snow, to see all the different kinds of pawprints coming
up to it.

Priscilla
Ginger-lyn Summer - 26 Nov 2003 17:48 GMT
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I've been reading this thread, but all the suggestions seem to require
electricity.  I'm in an apartment with no way to do outdoor electric,
and I sure can't leave a window open to run a line outside!  I feed
strays and ferals, and worry about the water freezing in the winter --
I change it several times a day, but there are still times it freezes.
Is there anything that is *not* electrical that can help keep the
water warm enough to keep it from freezing?

Thanks!

Ginger-lyn
Steve Crane - 27 Nov 2003 01:13 GMT
> I've been reading this thread, but all the suggestions seem to require
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I am also temporarily in an apartment and faced a similar issue with
regard to bird water. I found I could crack a window open and sneak an
extension cord through the crack, under the screen, and to the balcony
deck. I used some wonderful old "duct" tape to seal the window. I'm up
on the third floor, so have little concern about getting broke into.
But I think you could drop a stick in the window so it could not be
opened any furthere. Additionally everything I own is in storage at
Allied Van Lines anyway. This apartment living really sucks. I'm
afraid after 50+ years of living in houses I am ill equipped for
apartment living. It's not that I'm not used to kids running up and
down the hallway upstairs, it's just that I used to be able to yell at
them because they were mine, now I can't.
Mr B - 02 Dec 2003 02:54 GMT
They do make Solar Powered things for Bird Baths.  No idea about prices or anything,  Also, use a
Black water bowl since dark colors get hotter all by themselves in the sun.  Might want to check
some specialty Gardening Stores that would sell solar power heated birdbaths or something like that

Here's one possible thing I found...

http://shop.store.yahoo.com/duncraft/unsolsip.html

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Ginger-lyn Summer - 02 Dec 2003 20:04 GMT
>They do make Solar Powered things for Bird Baths.  No idea about prices or anything,  Also, use a
>Black water bowl since dark colors get hotter all by themselves in the sun.  Might want to check
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Thanks for the suggestions.  Couldn't get anything to show up on that
link, though :-(  I'm on the first floor in a not-so-good
neighborhood, so running a plug outside just isn't an option for me.
Maybe I can find a solar or battery operated *something* that will
work.

Thanks.

Ginger-lyn
Rene - 03 Dec 2003 21:44 GMT
> I've been reading this thread, but all the suggestions seem to require
> electricity.  I'm in an apartment with no way to do outdoor electric,
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Just a stray thought. . .what about those disposable foot and hand
warmers? The orange ones that deer hunters use. I haven't priced them,
but would imagine you could use one per day during only the really
cold days--think they last 8 hours or more.  You could put a smaller
bowl inside a bigger bowl and put the warmer under the smaller bowl.

Rene
Ginger-lyn Summer - 04 Dec 2003 19:22 GMT
>Just a stray thought. . .what about those disposable foot and hand
>warmers? The orange ones that deer hunters use. I haven't priced them,
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I was wondering about that.  I picked up a few of those not long ago,
but hadn't thought about using them in this way.  Might just work.
Thanks!

Ginger-lyn
Mr B - 02 Dec 2003 02:55 GMT
Well, just to reply to my own post, I bought a heated water bowl from PetCo ($28 or so).  It's huge
(1.5 gallons) but was all they had.  I guess it will have to do.

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Christine Burel - 02 Dec 2003 06:52 GMT
I saw those bowls at Petsmart, too; Wal Mart has something similar for about
$20.
Christine
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> (1.5 gallons) but was all they had.  I guess it will have to do.
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