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Diane L. Schirf - 24 Nov 2003 02:09 GMT
In the past week, Hodge has taken a sudden interest in jumping on top of
the stove (after a year and nine months of not being that interested at
either the old apartment or the new). Nothing changed (that is, I'm not
putting cat food bowls or anything else enticing on it). It's a gas
range, which in itself is dangerous for him to be on, plus he managed to
get behind it once, getting stuck, so I put a barrier to make it harder
for him to get in the gap between the stove and the wall down the back.

I've caught him twice on the stove and have sprayed him as punishment,
along with some "NOs!" -- spraying is the only form of punishment he
recognises. (He's got some dominance/behavioural issues, as some of you
may remember.)

How do other people keep their cats off stoves? Any thoughts welcome!
Thank you.

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Katra - 24 Nov 2003 02:28 GMT
> In the past week, Hodge has taken a sudden interest in jumping on top of
> the stove (after a year and nine months of not being that interested at
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>
> --

Upside down mousetraps worked for mine... and if set right, they are
harmless to the cat.

Again, I stress, _UPSIDE DOWN_ moustraps!
This way they just snap and startle the cat without hurting little paws! :-)

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afr - 24 Nov 2003 03:52 GMT
The few times I've seen george on the stove, he seemed to be foraging for
food......so, I try to keep it free of food.....and I say a firm "no," and
take him off. He can be pretty stubborn, but he's never pushed the stove
issue!

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> > In the past week, Hodge has taken a sudden interest in jumping on top of
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Diane L. Schirf - 24 Nov 2003 04:15 GMT
> The few times I've seen george on the stove, he seemed to be foraging for
> food......so, I try to keep it free of food.....and I say a firm "no," and
> take him off. He can be pretty stubborn, but he's never pushed the stove
> issue!

Hodge, alas, takes stubborness to a new level, even for cats. "No" and
other displays he seems to take as a challenge.

I'll try the mousetraps tomorrow. Sigh.

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Katra - 24 Nov 2003 05:17 GMT
> > The few times I've seen george on the stove, he seemed to be foraging for
> > food......so, I try to keep it free of food.....and I say a firm "no," and
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>
> I'll try the mousetraps tomorrow. Sigh.

Hey, at least they are cheap. <G>
I can get 6 packs of them at the grocery store!

Please let us know if it worked for you as well as it worked for me?

They are cheaper than "scat mats". :-)

I had a serious problem, I had one peeing on the stove!  Ick!
The upside down traps worked and were totally harmless...

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Alison - 24 Nov 2003 12:49 GMT
--  In article <Pine.SUN.4.56.0311231951120.20848@garcia.efn.org>,

> > The few times I've seen george on the stove, he seemed to be foraging for
> > food......so, I try to keep it free of food.....and I say a firm "no," and
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>
> I'll try the mousetraps tomorrow. Sigh.

Hi Diane ,
What ever you use, it's more effective to boobytrap something you
don't want your cat or dog  to go on so it looks like the hand of God.
If the aversion comes from you, the cat or dog will just do it when
you are not there.
Alison
andr0meda - 24 Nov 2003 12:13 GMT
I fill-up any just empty pots or pans with cold water and put them back onto
the still hot burner.
Andr0

> > In the past week, Hodge has taken a sudden interest in jumping on top of
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zuzu22@webtv.net - 24 Nov 2003 04:04 GMT
>How do other people keep their cats off
>stoves?

I leave pots/pans on the burners at all times.

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Elizabeth Blake - 24 Nov 2003 05:56 GMT
> In the past week, Hodge has taken a sudden interest in jumping on top of
> the stove (after a year and nine months of not being that interested at
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> How do other people keep their cats off stoves? Any thoughts welcome!
> Thank you.

When I first found my cat Otto, he was about 6 months old.  He jumped on the
stove constantly, even though there was nothing on it for him.  One morning
I woke up and smelled something nasty.  Otto had managed to turn on one of
the burners, and all of the plastic parts on my tea kettle had melted.  I
immediately took all of the knobs off.  Yelling at him, spraying water at
him didn't help.  Eventually he just got bored with the stove.  I put the
knobs back on about a year ago and have never seen him on the stove since.
I do try to keep pots & pans on all four burners.  If he ever does decide to
jump up there again, I'll be able to hear him at least.

Liz
Diane L. Schirf - 24 Nov 2003 15:07 GMT
> When I first found my cat Otto, he was about 6 months old.  He jumped on the
> stove constantly, even though there was nothing on it for him.  One morning
> I woke up and smelled something nasty.  Otto had managed to turn on one of
> the burners, and all of the plastic parts on my tea kettle had melted.

I'm worried that he's going to manage to catch himself on fire!

>  I
> immediately took all of the knobs off.  Yelling at him, spraying water at
> him didn't help.  Eventually he just got bored with the stove.  I put the
> knobs back on about a year ago and have never seen him on the stove since.
> I do try to keep pots & pans on all four burners.  If he ever does decide to
> jump up there again, I'll be able to hear him at least.

I'm concerned for when I'm at work -- I have no idea what he does.
Mostly I think he sleeps, but I do know periodically he gets
rambunctious because I find things all torn up.

Cats. Sigh. Pudge was never like this. :O

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MaryL - 24 Nov 2003 10:21 GMT
> How do other people keep their cats off stoves? Any thoughts welcome!
> Thank you.

I always leave a pan on the burner until it is completely cool.  My stove
has a flat glass top, so there is nothing to be concerned about when the top
is cool.  In your case, it might be a good idea to leave a set of clean pans
on the burners at all times.  Also, I have seen pictures of "covers" that
are sold specifically for gas burners.  You could leave pans on the burners
when they are hot and immediately replace them with the covers after the
burners cool.

MaryL
MaryL - 24 Nov 2003 11:07 GMT
> > How do other people keep their cats off stoves? Any thoughts welcome!
> > Thank you.
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>
> MaryL

I just did a quick Google search for "covers for stove burners."  This
quickly disclosed a large number of sources.

MaryL
Diane L. Schirf - 24 Nov 2003 15:04 GMT
> > How do other people keep their cats off stoves? Any thoughts welcome!
> > Thank you.
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> when they are hot and immediately replace them with the covers after the
> burners cool.

I should have explained -- this is an older stove, and there is a
foot-plus-wide part down the middle that is just right for His Nibs to
jump onto and walk around on. That's what I'm going to put the
mousetraps on and hope they work!

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KellyH - 24 Nov 2003 18:31 GMT
I had a scary stove incident happen when NewCat jumped up on the stove, and
her foot must have managed to turn a knob.  Luckily, I was nearby and heard
the gas.  She didn't turn it enough to get a flame, just the gas was going.
Which, if I wasn't home, she could have had the house filled with gas and I
would have come home to a house full of dead cats.  We immediately bought
child safety knob covers.  You may want to get those as well.

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> > > How do other people keep their cats off stoves? Any thoughts welcome!
> > > Thank you.
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> jump onto and walk around on. That's what I'm going to put the
> mousetraps on and hope they work!
Cat Protector - 25 Nov 2003 00:48 GMT
Very good idea not only for gas stoves but also for electric ones.

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> I had a scary stove incident happen when NewCat jumped up on the stove, and
> her foot must have managed to turn a knob.  Luckily, I was nearby and heard
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> > jump onto and walk around on. That's what I'm going to put the
> > mousetraps on and hope they work!
Karen M. - 24 Nov 2003 19:11 GMT
>>How do other people keep their cats off stoves? Any thoughts welcome!
>>Thank you.
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>
> MaryL

Hey, how do you clean those thing???

:) K
MaryL - 24 Nov 2003 23:24 GMT
> >>How do other people keep their cats off stoves? Any thoughts welcome!
> >>Thank you.
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>
> :) K

Which things? -- my glass stove top or the burner covers for gas stoves?  If
you mean my stove top, it's remarkably easy.  Just let it cool, drizzle a
few drops of cleaner that is made for those stoves, and buff with a paper
towel.  After 6 years, it still looks brand-new.  If you meant the burner
covers, they are intended to be placed over gas (or electric) burners
in-between uses, so they shouldn't need more than an occasional washing.  I
thought that would be a good idea for the OP's problem.

MaryL
Laura R. - 25 Nov 2003 01:36 GMT
circa Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:24:13 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
MaryL (carstan101@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER) said,

> Which things? -- my glass stove top or the burner covers for gas stoves?  If
> you mean my stove top, it's remarkably easy.  Just let it cool, drizzle a
> few drops of cleaner that is made for those stoves, and buff with a paper
> towel.  After 6 years, it still looks brand-new.  

My parents have one of those glass-top stoves, too. Due to the fact
that my father is both anal-retentive and retired, it looks like they
just bought it yesterday.

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Sherry - 25 Nov 2003 05:26 GMT
>circa Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:24:13 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
>MaryL (carstan101@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER) said,
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>
>Laura
Heh. I had one of those, and due to the fact that I *wasn't* anal retentive or
retired,  I hated it and couldn't wait to get rid of it. Besides all the other
reasons, if a pan is a *fraction bit* warped, the stupid thing dances on the
burner. It drove me nuts.

Sherry
Sherry - 25 Nov 2003 05:29 GMT
>Heh. I had one of those, and due to the fact that I *wasn't* anal retentive
>or
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>
>Sherry

Sorry to follow up on my own post, but another vent about the dreaded glass-top
stove....I would forget how hot the burner still was after it was turned off,
and invariably set tea towels on fire. I never had a problem with the cats, but
back then I just had Cherokee and it was after his stroke and he just didn't
jump.

Sherry
Laura R. - 26 Nov 2003 05:34 GMT
circa 25 Nov 2003 05:29:36 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Sherry
(sriddles@aol.comkitty) said,
> >Heh. I had one of those, and due to the fact that I *wasn't* anal retentive
> >or
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> back then I just had Cherokee and it was after his stroke and he just didn't
> jump.

Heh. My mother has set a few towels on fire on the glass top stove.
My dad does most of the cooking now. I think my Mom burned the towels
on purpose. <G>

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Karen M. - 27 Nov 2003 03:34 GMT
>>circa Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:24:13 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav,
>>MaryL (carstan101@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER) said,
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>
> Sherry

that was my mom's pet peeve also. :)

K
PawsForThought - 29 Nov 2003 03:10 GMT
>From: sriddles@aol.comkitty  (Sherry )

>>MaryL (carstan101@yahoo.comTAKE-OUT-THE-LITTER) said,
>>>
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>
>Sherry

I have one and I'm not too crazy about it either.  When we bought the house,
the glass top was cracked so the seller's replaced it.  It looks good and all
but I just prefer cooking with gas.  Seems like there's better control with
gas. Hopefully in the near future we'll have a gas line run and get a gas
stove.

I have caught my cats up there a couple of times.  I like the suggestion of
keeping pots on there.

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Karen M. - 25 Nov 2003 04:00 GMT
>>>>How do other people keep their cats off stoves? Any thoughts welcome!
>>>>Thank you.
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>
> MaryL

Ah, I think my friends are not quite as diligent as you. They were
trying to clean theirs the other day. Thought I'd check for them. :)
Cat Protector - 25 Nov 2003 00:52 GMT
Are you asking how to clean the burners? If so, what kind of stove do you
have?

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> Hey, how do you clean those thing???
>
> :) K
Karen M. - 25 Nov 2003 03:50 GMT
> Are you asking how to clean the burners? If so, what kind of stove do you
> have?

My friends have the glass top ones that Mary was just talking about, and
while I was over the other day, they were trying to get burned-on stuff
off the burners. I was curious what Mary used on hers. Sounds like the
trick is to wipe down after using, but I think they let theirs go for a
bit. ;)

Incidentally, I have a gas range and it heats like a dream! Luckily, no
 one shows interest in jumping on it, though Sophie has exhibited
interest in climbing *in* it. Therefore, I no longer get the luxury of
leaving the door open to let the oven heat out once I'm done baking, as
my oven door doesn't just open a crack. Oh well... :)
Karen - 25 Nov 2003 04:08 GMT
>> Are you asking how to clean the burners? If so, what kind of stove do you
>> have?
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> leaving the door open to let the oven heat out once I'm done baking, as
> my oven door doesn't just open a crack. Oh well... :)

I wonder if wiping it down with those orange scented clorox wipes would
discourage him because of the orange smell?

Karen
Cat Protector - 25 Nov 2003 04:10 GMT
Actually glass top burners can be cleaned with glass cleaner actually.

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> >> Are you asking how to clean the burners? If so, what kind of stove do you
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>
> Karen
Karen M. - 25 Nov 2003 20:34 GMT
> >> Are you asking how to clean the burners? If so, what kind of stove do you
> >> have?
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>
> Karen

Uh, I don't want my food tainted by orange smell, nor do my cats seem
very bothered by citrus smell, but thank you :). She's intrigued by
the warmth and cocoon-like atmosphere of the oven. I tell her previous
owners cooked animals in there, but she doesn't seem to be affected by
this little fact. ;)
Sherry - 25 Nov 2003 20:41 GMT
>Uh, I don't want my food tainted by orange smell, nor do my cats seem
>very bothered by citrus smell, but thank you :). She's intrigued by
>the warmth and cocoon-like atmosphere of the oven. I tell her previous
>owners cooked animals in there, but she doesn't seem to be affected by
>this little fact. ;)

My cats dig orange peels out of the trash and play with them, so that blows the
cats-hate-citrus theory, around here anyway.  

Sherry
Laura R. - 26 Nov 2003 05:35 GMT
circa 25 Nov 2003 20:41:39 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Sherry
(sriddles@aol.comkitty) said,

> My cats dig orange peels out of the trash and play with them, so that blows the
> cats-hate-citrus theory, around here anyway.  

Same here. Camille likes grapefruit.

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MaryL - 25 Nov 2003 07:22 GMT
> My friends have the glass top ones that Mary was just talking about, and
> while I was over the other day, they were trying to get burned-on stuff
> off the burners. I was curious what Mary used on hers. Sounds like the
> trick is to wipe down after using, but I think they let theirs go for a
> bit. ;)

This is one of the few *cleaning* things where I have been diligent about
following instructions.  I was told when I bought it to clean it after every
use and be sure not to "bake things into" the surface.  I followed their
orders, have literally cleaned after every use -- and it looks just like the
day I bought it.  It only takes a minute to clean, so it hasn't been
difficult.  However, the surface is supposed to be fairly tough if someone
does have problems.  One friend often lets things boil over, so she has a
bigger cleaning burden.  She squeezes a thin film of warm water on the
burned-on spots, then carefully uses a razor blade to literally slice the
offending items off -- then follows with a regular cleaning.  She says she
sometimes uses Windex because that is glass cleaner!

MaryL
Iain & Deb - 27 Nov 2003 00:10 GMT
> > My friends have the glass top ones that Mary was just talking about, and
> > while I was over the other day, they were trying to get burned-on stuff
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>
> MaryL

Baking soda is very effective and safe for ceramic cook tops.  When I
have a burned-on area that doesn't want to come clean, I use baking soda
and a bit of water, and lots of elbow grease.  It does a nice job.

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Katra - 26 Nov 2003 18:00 GMT
> > Are you asking how to clean the burners? If so, what kind of stove do you
> > have?
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> trick is to wipe down after using, but I think they let theirs go for a
> bit. ;)

My glass top stove came with a razor scraper. :-)

I change the blades frequently. I scrape the stove top first, then go
after it with some windex. I then follow up with the buffer/cleaner and
polish it with a paper towel. I give it a good cleaning like this
usually weekly, and it comes out lovely.

> Incidentally, I have a gas range and it heats like a dream! Luckily, no
>   one shows interest in jumping on it, though Sophie has exhibited
> interest in climbing *in* it. Therefore, I no longer get the luxury of
> leaving the door open to let the oven heat out once I'm done baking, as
> my oven door doesn't just open a crack. Oh well... :)

I adore my glass top stove! I saved for one forever, it was $800.00.
Has neat timer settings and everything! The oven timer actually turns
the oven off just like a microwave. :-)

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Karen M. - 27 Nov 2003 04:11 GMT
>>>Are you asking how to clean the burners? If so, what kind of stove do you
>>>have?
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>
> K.

Wow! That is cool, I wish my stove did that! (I'm not being a
smart-alec, I'm being serious!)  :)
Sherry - 27 Nov 2003 05:11 GMT
>>>Incidentally, I have a gas range and it heats like a dream! Luckily, no
>>>  one shows interest in jumping on it, though Sophie has exhibited
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>Wow! That is cool, I wish my stove did that! (I'm not being a
>smart-alec, I'm being serious!)  :)

That *is* cool. My glass top was one of the first ones. I'm sure they're better
now. I won't say exactly how old, but it was harvest gold. ugh.

Sherry
Karen M. - 27 Nov 2003 19:30 GMT
>>>>Incidentally, I have a gas range and it heats like a dream! Luckily, no
>>>> one shows interest in jumping on it, though Sophie has exhibited
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>
> Sherry

Is that like avocado green? ;)
PawsForThought - 29 Nov 2003 03:15 GMT
>From: Katra Katra@centurytel.net

>My glass top stove came with a razor scraper. :-)
>
>I change the blades frequently. I scrape the stove top first, then go
>after it with some windex. I then follow up with the buffer/cleaner and
>polish it with a paper towel.

The razor doesn't scratch the glass?

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Cat Protector - 25 Nov 2003 00:41 GMT
As weird as it sounds I actually educated my cat Isis about how the stove is
dangerous. I have an electric one here and if she is near it when it is on I
give a sharp no and make a bit of noise which usually chases her away. None
of my cats are allowed on the kitchen counter. I have also squirted Isis
with water when she is caught on them (My other cat Jade doesn't jump on the
kitchen counters). If your cat insists on being on or near a stove, I would
get some non-flammable hard covers for the burners. What kind of gas stove
do you have? Is it older or is it kind of the newer ones that professional
chefs use?

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> In the past week, Hodge has taken a sudden interest in jumping on top of
> the stove (after a year and nine months of not being that interested at
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> How do other people keep their cats off stoves? Any thoughts welcome!
> Thank you.
 
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