Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / December 2003
Cats' anal glands full
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Johnny Davis - 23 Nov 2003 16:21 GMT Hi, I was on here over a month ago and several people helped me w/a problem my cat, K.C., was having. Thank you all.
It seems that the situation has not cleared up. She is large (18lbs). She was leaking this foul smelling brown stuff from her butt. I took her to the vet, who said because she's so fat she can't groom herself properly, therefore the waste was sticking to her fur. He shaved and cleaned her.
Soon after the problem reoccurred. Back to the vet, this time we see a different Dr. He says the glands need draining, takes her back to another room. I hear her crying, and he brings her back and she looks much better.
Two days later she is leaking and smelling again. On my bill I see I was charged for an office visit ($30) and a Dexamethasone injection ($6). My question: is that the way the glands are drained? If so it didn't work!
Thanks for any advice. I'm sure we'll be back at the vet ths week....
johnny
Judy F - 23 Nov 2003 16:41 GMT I had something similar with my cat Felix. He's about 2 years old and has long hair. I noticed a piece of feces stuck to his rear end, but when I tried to wipe it off, I realized that it was half in and half out! We took him to the vet, who took an x-ray and said that he was backed up with feces. They kept him overnight, gave him an enema, and then manually (I can't quite picture this) expressed anything else that was stuck. When I picked him up the next day they recommended that I give him Laxatone every other day to keep him from getting constipated and about 2 months later he's still fine. Hope this helps Judy F
> Hi, I was on here over a month ago and several people helped me w/a > problem my cat, K.C., was having. Thank you all. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > johnny Mary - 23 Nov 2003 17:10 GMT >Two days later she is leaking and smelling again. On my bill I see I was >charged for an office visit ($30) and a Dexamethasone injection ($6). My >question: is that the way the glands are drained? If so it didn't work! Dex is a steroid generally given for stressed animals, or at least that's what I use it for. The anal glands are expressed manually. There are I think one gland opening on each side of the anus. They kind of squeeze them like zits and all that brown smelly goopy stuff comes out. I took my dog to the groomer once and they told me they'd express his anal glands for free. Maybe it'd be cheaper if you took your cat to the groomer to keep her butt hair shaved and get her glands expressed, or you can do it yourself. If she's long haired I'd keep the hair on her thighs and under her tail shorter also. You may also have to clean her down there once a day yourself, with a warm washcloth, paper towel. Maybe she could use a little hairball remedy or a tsp of oil added to her food to keep her pooping. And of course put her on a diet and try to exercise her more with toys.
Laura R. - 23 Nov 2003 18:32 GMT circa 23 Nov 2003 17:10:19 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Mary (mmmaryinla@aol.comspam) said,
> Maybe it'd be cheaper > if you took your cat to the groomer to keep her butt hair shaved and get her > glands expressed, or you can do it yourself. Pet owners generally should not express cats' anal glands themselves unless they've been trained how to properly do it.
Laura
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Katra - 24 Nov 2003 01:41 GMT > circa 23 Nov 2003 17:10:19 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Mary > (mmmaryinla@aol.comspam) said, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Laura > -- Agreed. It's not that hard, have your vet show you!!!
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afr - 23 Nov 2003 17:14 GMT johnny,
i don't know how they drain them, but I was able to contain that problem last year when it emerged. (Did a lot of reading on the Net cause vet was no help.) EXERCISE. My cat was an outdoor cat, and has gotten really fat since I moved to the city for a job and he has become an indoor cat. I went out and got him some cat furntiture that forced him to jump up and down a few times a day. I highly recommednd some cat furniture for this issue.
afr
> Hi, I was on here over a month ago and several people helped me w/a > problem my cat, K.C., was having. Thank you all. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > johnny Cathy Friedmann - 23 Nov 2003 18:04 GMT The anal galnds are expressed (drained) manually - by squeezing them.
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> Hi, I was on here over a month ago and several people helped me w/a > problem my cat, K.C., was having. Thank you all. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > johnny Mitch@hotmail.com - 23 Nov 2003 18:24 GMT Oh, gross. She's staying outside.
Katra - 24 Nov 2003 01:40 GMT > Oh, gross. She's staying outside. That's NOT going to help the cat! Butch up, put on a pair of gloves, and drain them yourself! Maris, my dad's overly obese kitty, needs this service. I have a box of disposable gloves that makes the chore more bearable...
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Laura R. - 23 Nov 2003 18:29 GMT circa Sun, 23 Nov 2003 11:21:55 -0500 (EST), in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Johnny Davis (johnycat5@webtv.net) said,
> Two days later she is leaking and smelling again. On my bill I see I was > charged for an office visit ($30) and a Dexamethasone injection ($6). My > question: is that the way the glands are drained? If so it didn't work! No, they're drained by squeezing them. Dexamethasone is a steroid that is used to reduce inflammation. Call your vet and advise him/her that the cat's glands seem to have filled again and ask him/her what to do.
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Karen - 23 Nov 2003 19:00 GMT > Hi, I was on here over a month ago and several people helped me w/a > problem my cat, K.C., was having. Thank you all. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > johnny Ask them if they expressed the glands. Call. This does not sound right.
Karen
Phil P. - 23 Nov 2003 22:20 GMT > Hi, I was on here over a month ago and several people helped me w/a > problem my cat, K.C., was having. Thank you all. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > charged for an office visit ($30) and a Dexamethasone injection ($6). My > question: is that the way the glands are drained? Actually, they're sacs not glands. The sacs might be infected and/or inflamed or abscessed. Impacted anal sacs can become inflamed and infected -- infection can then lead to abscessation... Its probably one continuous process.
Usually, manually draining the sacs (manual expression) is all that's necessary. Your vet was probably hoping manual expression would solve the problem (which it usually does) and spare your cat (and you) the stress and probably anesthetic risk associated with treating anal sac infection/abscess. However, repeated manual expression can cause irritation followed by inflammation and infection - so it shouldn't be performed routinely as "therapy".
The sacs might be infected. If so, they'll most likely need to be flushed with an antiseptic solution and then filled with an antibiotic ointment followed by an oral broad spectrum systemic antibiotic for a week or two. In chronic and/or severe cases, the sacs can be cauterized or completely removed surgically. Anal sacs aren't necessary for survival.
Good luck.
Phil
Marek Williams - 27 Nov 2003 01:42 GMT >Anal sacs aren't necessary for survival. What is their function? Considering how much a problem they seem to be why do cats have them at all?
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Diane L. Schirf - 27 Nov 2003 01:51 GMT > >Anal sacs aren't necessary for survival. > > What is their function? Considering how much a problem they seem to be > why do cats have them at all? To mark territory and to announce oneself. You'll notice that that is what dogs sniff out first. It's how they remember each other.
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Cheryl - 27 Nov 2003 01:52 GMT >> Anal sacs aren't necessary for survival. > > What is their function? Considering how much a problem they seem to > be why do cats have them at all? The history of them is weird. They used to express them when scared sort of like a skunk does. I don't know if the secretion was supposed to make a preditor think they weren't edible. When the sac material wasn't secreted in fear, it was expressed with a bowel movement. Back when the diet of a cat was the natural diet and the feces was hard and cement-like; hard enough for the feces to press against the sacs during elimination. With commercial diets being unlike their natural diet, many cats have anal sac problems.
Mary - 28 Nov 2003 05:03 GMT > >> Anal sacs aren't necessary for survival. > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > during elimination. With commercial diets being unlike their natural > diet, many cats have anal sac problems. Why would the cat's natural diet (mostly protein, I imagine?) resultin hard, "cement like" feces?" Anyone ever on Atkins knows why I wonder ... ;)
Cheryl - 28 Nov 2003 22:57 GMT > Why would the cat's natural diet (mostly protein, I imagine?) > resultin hard, "cement like" feces?" I believe it was mostly the bone content.
Mary - 29 Nov 2003 18:07 GMT > > Why would the cat's natural diet (mostly protein, I imagine?) > > resultin hard, "cement like" feces?" > > I believe it was mostly the bone content. Aha! Makes sense. I was once cautioned about antacids having this effect, but I had to learn the hard way. :-)
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ChakaShiva - 01 Dec 2003 03:20 GMT > >> Anal sacs aren't necessary for survival. > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > when the diet of a cat was the natural diet and the feces was hard and > cement-like; Cats feces are not cement hard on a natural diet of preys. The stools are long and thin yes, but consist mostly of the preys hair, a few streaks of grass, and a little poop to hold it together. You easily break it when dry. I've had many occasions to observe, especially when I garden (!!) When the stools are very hard, there is fiber missing in the diet surely.
Elaine
hard enough for the feces to press against the sacs
> during elimination. With commercial diets being unlike their natural > diet, many cats have anal sac problems. Chris - 25 Nov 2003 20:47 GMT Hello, I'm very sorry for the pain your cat is going threw plus your wallet is getting very thin I'm sure. I have went threw the same crap with my cat. Well I did a search on the internet and found out this is a bacterial infection. I found a site called www.felinemedicinechest.com they helped my cat and my wallet. Check it out. Good Luck, Tootie
> Hi, I was on here over a month ago and several people helped me w/a > problem my cat, K.C., was having. Thank you all. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > johnny Karen Chuplis - 25 Nov 2003 21:48 GMT SPAM
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