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Cat Forum / Health and Behavior / November 2003torn
I have two 1-1/2 year old indoor male altered cats, Mazik and Nudnik. Six months ago I sold my 2 br condo and moved into a 1 br apartment. We are allowed one animal. I still have my two. But Mazik is going crazy here. He is climbing the walls, literally. He is jumping up onto the door jambs, knock over pictures from the book shelves, leaping up to look out the peep hole, howling at the door, etc. at 5:30 am. I think the space is too small for him. Or for us. I have several different toys that I keep hidden and take out alternately to play with for diversion. Doesn't seem to make a difference. I'm torn because I've had him since baby-hood. But I find myself feeling angry at him too. I've been in animal rescue. I know what the deal is out there. I'm torn. Please, if you are going to yell at me and tell me I am a BAD PERSON, don't bother replying. I just want REAL suggestions. thanks. > Please, if you are going to yell at me and tell me I am a BAD PERSON, > don't bother replying. I just want REAL suggestions. Have you considered training him to leash and harness and taking him out for walks? He'd get more exercise, stimulation, and the joy of chasing bugs. LOL My Rowan would go stir crazy if I didn't take her out. -- ~kaeli~ A man needs a mistress... just to break the monogamy. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace > > Please, if you are going to yell at me and tell me I am a BAD PERSON, > > don't bother replying. I just want REAL suggestions. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > My Rowan would go stir crazy if I didn't take her out. Hi, thanks. I've considered it. My concern is that he will then cry to go out on a regular basis. P.S. no bugs here - it's WINTER~! Thanks. > Hi, thanks. I've considered it. My concern is that he will then cry to > go out on a regular basis. He will. If you do this, it's because you're going to take him out almost every day. :) > P.S. no bugs here - it's WINTER~! Thanks. Same here, but we have the next best thing - flying leaves! LOL I have a dog, so I have to go out every day anyway. So if it's not below 0, Rowan comes with. She actually likes to go out, even in the rain and snow. She doesn't care. She cries to go unless it's below like 10 degrees - even if she just wants to go for 10 minutes, it's the highlight of her day. -- ~kaeli~ Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets? http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace > > Hi, thanks. I've considered it. My concern is that he will then cry to > > go out on a regular basis. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > -- Its wonderful that you do this for her kaeli!! :-) Elaine > ~kaeli~ > Why did kamikaze pilots wear helmets? > http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart > http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace > > I have a dog, so I have to go out every day anyway. So if it's not below > > 0, Rowan comes with. She actually likes to go out, even in the rain and [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Its wonderful that you do this for her kaeli!! :-) She'd get awful pissy if I didn't. *LOL* She's a happier cat this way and that makes the whole house function better (and I love to see her happy). She doesn't get to go when it's below 0, which happens for a couple weeks in the dead of winter, and she just picks on the other kids something awful 'cuz she gets mad! -- ~kaeli~ Persons disagreeing with facts are always emotional and employ faulty reasoning. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace > I have a dog, so I have to go out every day anyway. So if it's not below > 0, Rowan comes with. > ~kaeli~ I keep thinking this but forgetting to post it: great name, Rowan. Are you an Ann Rice fan? ;) > > I have a dog, so I have to go out every day anyway. So if it's not > below [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I keep thinking this but forgetting to post it: great name, Rowan. Are > you an Ann Rice fan? ;) Someone finally gets the reference! :D Yup, named after Ann's character. -- ~kaeli~ God was my co-pilot... but then we crashed in the mountains and I had to eat him. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace "kaeli" > > I keep thinking this but forgetting to post it: great name, Rowan. Are > > you an Ann Rice fan? ;) > > Someone finally gets the reference! :D > > Yup, named after Ann's character. <G> What a character! Unforgettable. circa Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:49:47 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, kaeli (tiny_one@NOSPAM.comcast.net) said, > Someone finally gets the reference! :D My sister's ten-year-old siamese is named Khayman. Laura  SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. > > > Please, if you are going to yell at me and tell me I am a BAD PERSON, > > > don't bother replying. I just want REAL suggestions. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Hi, thanks. I've considered it. My concern is that he will then cry to > go out on a regular basis. P.S. no bugs here - it's WINTER~! Thanks. What if he does? It sounds like you don't like him much at the moment. Six months is a long time to put up with an unhappy cat in a one-bedroom apartment, though, so I can see why he might be getting on your nerves. However--if you really want to keep him you will be willing to put some effort into making him happy. If not, I can see why you feel guilty for wanting to get rid of him, but don't know what to say about that. His reaction seems extreme due to a change like a one bedroom smaller apartment. Did you say he was neutered? Thanks for your insights. Beleive me, I know everyone has good intentions with their suggestions. I didn't get a dog. I got a cat. I didn't want the responsibility of taking a dog out. I thought there might be other ideas. > > kaeli <tiny_one@NOSPAM.comcast.net> wrote in message > news:<MPG.1a27f1885eb1adaf9899a0@nntp.lucent.com>... [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > to say about that. His reaction seems extreme due to a change like a > one bedroom smaller apartment. Did you say he was neutered? > Thanks for your insights. Beleive me, I know everyone has good > intentions with their suggestions. I didn't get a dog. I got a cat. I > didn't want the responsibility of taking a dog out. I thought there > might be other ideas. You seem to think the cat needs more space. If you won't walk him, what solution might there be? To move to a larger place? I'm just not sure what you're asking here. >From: keshazel@yahoo.com (keshcatlvr) >Please, if you are going to yell at me and tell me I am a BAD PERSON, >don't bother replying. I just want REAL suggestions. Get a floor to ceiling cat tree. I have a couple of them. I also have a utility cart in front of a big window so they can look out and then I have a bird feeder in front of that window. Get some interactive toys like feather on a stick toys and play with the cats. ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm >> From: keshazel@yahoo.com (keshcatlvr) > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html > Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm Yes, I have several trees and perches. They help a lot. Karen I made window seats made of wood (painted) that are screwed into the window frames. Bird feeders are not allowed here. I have a variety of toys: the feather, the fishing pole, the wire with cardboard thingys. He isn't that interested. But we do use them. He also has a lot of different balls, mice, assorted toys which appear and disappear. I alternate them. He is not interested in catnip or television. Also, he does get time in the hallway every day. He explores. It's an inner hallway. He cannot get outside. He looks around and then lays at the door. The apartment is only about 400 sqare feet. We are talking tiny. > >From: keshazel@yahoo.com (keshcatlvr) > > Get a floor to ceiling cat tree. I have a couple of them. I also have a > utility cart in front of a big window so they can look out and then I have a > bird feeder in front of that window. Get some interactive toys like feather on a stick toys and play with the cats. > I made window seats made of wood (painted) that are screwed into the > window frames. Bird feeders are not allowed here. I have a variety of [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >>utility cart in front of a big window so they can look out and then I have a >>bird feeder in front of that window. Get some interactive toys like feather on a stick toys and play with the cats. I suspect your cat may just be plain missing his old territory rather than being upset at the size of your new place. Signature"Its the bugs that keep it running." -Joe Canuck "keshcatlvr" The apartment is only about 400 sqare feet. We are talking > tiny. Oh my god. Can't you move? I don't know how you can stand that, let alone two cats. There has to be an alternative. > I have two 1-1/2 year old indoor male altered cats, Mazik and Nudnik. > Six months ago I sold my 2 br condo and moved into a 1 br apartment. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > thanks. Consider enriching his environment... Create a couple of perches where he can look out different windows. Buy some SonoTube and create little tunnels for him to crawl around in. Consider getting a drinking fountain with running water. Install weatherstripping of some sort around the door to minimize the noise coming in from the hallway. Consider getting some additional cat furniture or perhaps making high walkways or perches for him to enjoy. Perhaps give him more of your own attention, play with him when you can Signature"Its the bugs that keep it running." -Joe Canuck > > I have two 1-1/2 year old indoor male altered cats, Mazik and Nudnik. > > Six months ago I sold my 2 br condo and moved into a 1 br apartment. [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > Consider getting some additional cat furniture or perhaps making high > walkways or perches for him to enjoy. Excellent advice! Here are some ideas: http://www.maxshouse.com/Environmental_Enrichment/high-level_walkways.htm http://www.maxshouse.com/Environmental_Enrichment.htm > Consider enriching his environment... > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Perhaps give him more of your own attention, play with him when you > can I completely agree with this post. Vertical space can take the place of horizontal space and make it more fun and entertaining, plus more exercise for the kitties. Good luck! |
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