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I have three cats, and all of them like to lick plastic bags. One of them likes to chew the plastic too. Anyone else have a cat like this? Also, does anyone think this is dangerous in any way? Judy F > I have three cats, and all of them like to lick plastic bags. One of them > likes to chew the plastic too. Anyone else have a cat like this? Also, does > anyone think this is dangerous in any way? > Judy F It is very dangerous... I have several cats that do it too, I just keep plastic bags out of their reach. They only have brief access to them when I'm unloading and putting away groceries. Oh, they also like to pee on them. ;-) One more good reason to keep them picked up! K. >^,,^< Cats-haven Hobby Farm >^,,^< Katra@centurytel.net >^,,^< "There are millions of intelligent species in the universe, and they are all owned by cats" -- Asimov Custom handcrafts, Sterling silver beaded jewelry http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=katra > > I have three cats, and all of them like to lick plastic bags. One of them > > likes to chew the plastic too. Anyone else have a cat like this? Also, does [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > K. yes one of mine does it, if she gets the chance..... we have to be very careful not to leave any around. She never chews black sack tho! LOL I never leave the plastic and the kitties unattended, but do you think it's dangerous because of suffocation risk, or is the plastic itself dangerous. They've never tried to eat it, only lick it! Judy F > > > I have three cats, and all of them like to lick plastic bags. One of > them [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > yes one of mine does it, if she gets the chance..... we have to be very > careful not to leave any around. She never chews black sack tho! LOL > I never leave the plastic and the kitties unattended, but do you think it's > dangerous because of suffocation risk, or is the plastic itself dangerous. > They've never tried to eat it, only lick it! > Judy F I wouldn't want mine licking them, considering the germs, bacteria, chemicals, and other crap that is bound to be on them from being in the store. -- ~kaeli~ If a turtle doesn't have a shell, is he homeless or naked? http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace You've all convinced me! The plastic bags have got to go! Thanks Judy > > I never leave the plastic and the kitties unattended, but do you think it's > > dangerous because of suffocation risk, or is the plastic itself dangerous. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart > http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace >I never leave the plastic and the kitties unattended, but do you think it's >dangerous because of suffocation risk, or is the plastic itself dangerous. >They've never tried to eat it, only lick it! I don't think licking plastic will actually hurt them, but if they start eating it that's different. Although I have once or twice found some chewed up bits of plastic when one of our cat's vomited, and other than the actual vomiting, she didn't have any other problems. Sometimes they will try to crawl inside of it, and also my cats that lick plastic often start to chew it... I worry more about choking. K. > I never leave the plastic and the kitties unattended, but do you think it's > dangerous because of suffocation risk, or is the plastic itself dangerous. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > yes one of mine does it, if she gets the chance..... we have to be very > > careful not to leave any around. She never chews black sack tho! LOL >^,,^< Cats-haven Hobby Farm >^,,^< Katra@centurytel.net >^,,^< "There are millions of intelligent species in the universe, and they are all owned by cats" -- Asimov Custom handcrafts, Sterling silver beaded jewelry http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=katra >I never leave the plastic and the kitties unattended, but do you think it's >dangerous because of suffocation risk, or is the plastic itself dangerous. >They've never tried to eat it, only lick it! If they eat any of the plastic it could cause problems with the plumbing. Otherwise, I don't think it's particularly dangerous. Suffocation risk is for human children. Cats have fur all over their mouths, so it can't stick to them like it would a human baby. Then again, as someone else noted, cats do like to pee on plastic bags if they find them lying around. Besides, putting them into the recyclables is good housekeeping. -- Bogus e-mail address, but I read this newsgroup regularly, so reply here. > I have three cats, and all of them like to lick plastic bags. One of them > likes to chew the plastic too. Anyone else have a cat like this? Also, does > anyone think this is dangerous in any way? > Judy F Keep the plastic bags out of reach.  Signature"Its the bugs that keep it running." -Joe Canuck circa Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:32:42 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Joe Canuck (Joe_Canuck@Canada.ca) said, > > I have three cats, and all of them like to lick plastic bags. One of them > > likes to chew the plastic too. Anyone else have a cat like this? Also, does > > anyone think this is dangerous in any way? > > Judy F > > Keep the plastic bags out of reach. I wash a plastic shopping bag and tie it up into a big knot for Oscar. If I don't give him something, he chews any plastic he can find- the garbage bag hanging over the lip of the can, the toilet paper wrapping, anything he can find. Since he doesn't eat it and since he can't get wrapped up in a washed knotted bag, I think it's the lesser of the evils. Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. > circa Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:32:42 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > Joe Canuck (Joe_Canuck@Canada.ca) said, [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Laura You have been very lucky. Generally, it isn't a great idea to let small children or pets play with plastic bags unsupervised. Some cats take a fancy to urinating on plastic bags for some reason. Signature"Its the bugs that keep it running." -Joe Canuck > You have been very lucky. Generally, it isn't a great idea to let small > children or pets play with plastic bags unsupervised. 1. I never said he was "unsupervised". 2. What part of "the bag is tied in a knot" isn't clear? Luck has nothing to do with it. Would you like to see a picture of one of the bags? Laura >>You have been very lucky. Generally, it isn't a great idea to let small >>children or pets play with plastic bags unsupervised. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Laura Only if the "bag" in the picture is you. :-) Signature"Its the bugs that keep it running." -Joe Canuck circa Tue, 18 Nov 2003 20:57:32 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Joe Canuck (Joe_Canuck@Canada.ca) said, > Only if the "bag" in the picture is you. :-) <snork> I think that's the first time I've been called a bag. <G> Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. > > You have been very lucky. Generally, it isn't a great idea to let small > > children or pets play with plastic bags unsupervised. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Laura <sigh> The vast majority of folks on the list, including myself, are leery of allowing cats to mess with plastic bags. They are your cats, and your bags, so do what you want. Why did you bother asking if you have already made up your mind? K. >^,,^< Cats-haven Hobby Farm >^,,^< Katra@centurytel.net >^,,^< "There are millions of intelligent species in the universe, and they are all owned by cats" -- Asimov Custom handcrafts, Sterling silver beaded jewelry http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=katra circa Wed, 19 Nov 2003 02:33:11 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Katra (Katra@centurytel.net) said, > > > You have been very lucky. Generally, it isn't a great idea to let small > > > children or pets play with plastic bags unsupervised. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Why did you bother asking if you have already made up your mind? Why bother responding if you have nothing to say? Since you have no clue, what is the point? AS I SAID, my cat is not "mess[ing] with plastic bags". He has a grocery bag tied up into knots until it looks like a big ball that he carries around and fetches. f.ck off. Laura SignatureHe knows nothing and thinks he knows everything. That points clearly to a political career. --George Bernard Shaw circa Wed, 19 Nov 2003 02:33:11 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Katra (Katra@centurytel.net) said, > Why did you bother asking if you have already made up your mind? And by the way, illiterate- *I* didn't ASK anything. Bint. Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. After I empty the bags. I cut the loops before putting them in the garbage. This is in case they get into the garbage (they never have) and get at the bags. The loops could cause strangling. -MIKE circa Wed, 19 Nov 2003 08:36:36 -0500 (EST), in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, ---MIKE--- (twinmountain@webtv.net) said, > After I empty the bags. I cut the loops before putting them in the > garbage. This is in case they get into the garbage (they never have) > and get at the bags. The loops could cause strangling. Yes, which is why the loops are knotted up so my cat can't get his head into them. If I give him a clean, knotted up plastic bag (it looks like a ball when I'm done), it keeps him from seeking out plastic elsewhere. He bats around the bag-ball, fetches it, and carries it around. What he *doesn't* do is go after other bags if he has a ball-bag to play with. If he doesn't have one, then he looks for other plastic. It's that simple. Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. >From: twinmountain@webtv.net (---MIKE---) >After I empty the bags. I cut the loops before putting them in the >garbage. This is in case they get into the garbage (they never have) >and get at the bags. The loops could cause strangling. I do the same thing. I cut the loops on paper bags too. ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm > > circa Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:32:42 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > > Joe Canuck (Joe_Canuck@Canada.ca) said, [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > -- -Joe Canuck And that can promote bad habits... Plastic bags are a bad idea.... Period. K. >^,,^< Cats-haven Hobby Farm >^,,^< Katra@centurytel.net >^,,^< "There are millions of intelligent species in the universe, and they are all owned by cats" -- Asimov Custom handcrafts, Sterling silver beaded jewelry http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=katra >Plastic bags are a bad idea.... Period. Why, exactly? In reading this thread, I haven't seen any specific reason given, other than that the cat might get its head stuck in the bag and suffocate. But if the bag has been tied securely in knots as Laura described . . .? What are the other dangers of plastic bags? I'd like to know. > >Plastic bags are a bad idea.... Period. > > Why, exactly? In reading this thread, I haven't seen any specific reason given, > other than that the cat might get its head stuck in the bag and suffocate. But > if the bag has been tied securely in knots as Laura described . . .? What are > the other dangers of plastic bags? I'd like to know. They are non-digestible. A cat can bite off pieces, even if it's tied. Also, chemicals are used to treat the plastic. I have no idea if they could harm my cats, but I sure wouldn't want to chance it. They are possibly loaded with germs and bacteria - I worked in a grocery store. I know where those bags might have been. Basically, I wouldn't want my baby sucking on them, so I don't let my cats. -- ~kaeli~ Condoms should be used on every conceivable occasion. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace >What are >> the other dangers of plastic bags? I'd like to know. > >They are non-digestible. >A cat can bite off pieces, even if it's tied. Yes, on the few occasions my cat has chewed and swallowed bits of plastic, it came out undigested. But what is the health risk in that? >Also, chemicals are used to treat the plastic. I have no idea if they >could harm my cats, but I sure wouldn't want to chance it. They are >possibly loaded with germs and bacteria - I worked in a grocery store. I >know where those bags might have been. You mean, more germs and bacteria than the cat would consume by cleaning feces and urine from its body? >Basically, I wouldn't want my baby sucking on them, so I don't let my >cats. Your baby doesn't have a fully developed immune system yet. But the reason I'm asking what real risk is posed by a cat consuming a little plastic is that I did a search online, and I couldn't find any site that gave an actual reason. So that's why I'm asking here. > >What are > >> the other dangers of plastic bags? I'd like to know. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Yes, on the few occasions my cat has chewed and swallowed bits of plastic, it > came out undigested. But what is the health risk in that? That it will not come out. Anything indigestible that a cat could consume worries me. Heck, if they canget blockages from their own hair, what might happen with too much plastic? > >Also, chemicals are used to treat the plastic. I have no idea if they > >could harm my cats, but I sure wouldn't want to chance it. They are [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > You mean, more germs and bacteria than the cat would consume by cleaning feces > and urine from its body? Yes, much. All animals are used to their own bacteria. Humans have plenty, too, in our mouths, intestines, etc, and we wouldn't get ill from consuming our own feces or urine in small amounts like the cat gets from cleaning. Cats are even better than us when it comes to bacteria, but enough of it can sicken the best of creatures. Many animal sites even recommend using steel bowls instead of plastic because of bacterial growth. I myself use stainless steel bowls. Plastic breeds bacteria easier than steel and doesn't sanitize as well. Plastic bags can have all manner of bacteria and germs on them from the store from the raw meats, insecticides and poisons from the vegetables, and toxic cleaning solutions and even rat poison from sitting in the back room. If the store has an insect or pest problem, they may also have droppings on them - sometimes from diseased pests. While this may not kill or even sicken a healthy cat, it can make an already sick, old, or young cat more ill. Even bags straight from the box they come in can be exposed to insects and diseased pests if the store or warehouse is not kept sanitary. > >Basically, I wouldn't want my baby sucking on them, so I don't let my > >cats. > > > Your baby doesn't have a fully developed immune system yet. Neither do some cats, including my little sickly furkid. She makes me paranoid. :) > But the reason I'm asking what real risk is posed by a cat consuming a little > plastic is that I did a search online, and I couldn't find any site that gave > an actual reason. So that's why I'm asking here. Actually, I doubt there are any studies or anything (I didn't find any, anyways). I go based on what I know from working at a store and from logic about what happens when animals consume indigestible material. I doubt too many cats would eat enough plastic to harm them, unless they had an OCD type disorder. It's knowing where those bags have been that makes me leery. I'd say 9 out of 10 times, the plastic would be fine if the cat didn't consume it, but it's that 1 time that makes me never want to go there. -- ~kaeli~ Practice safe eating - always use condiments. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace circa Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:01:12 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, kaeli (tiny_one@NOSPAM.comcast.net) said, > I'd say 9 out of 10 times, the plastic would be fine if the cat didn't > consume it, but it's that 1 time that makes me never want to go there. Washed knotted CLEAN plastic bags that the cat DOESN'T EAT. EVER. Use some logic. Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. > Use some logic. I have an opinion. I'm allowed. You're allowed to disagree, too. Isn't that neat? -- ~kaeli~ All I ask is the chance to prove that money cannot make me happy. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace I know I'm posting a reply 2 years late but I just had to say lighten up folks. I searched this site to see why my cat likes licking plastic bags and instead I find a bunch of people arguing with one another. How childish. By the way, my cat licks garbage bags and isn't unsuprvised when he does this. Oh, one other thing. Keep packing "peanuts" away from cats as well as rubberbands. >> >What are >> >> the other dangers of plastic bags? I'd like to know. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >canget blockages from their own hair, what might happen with too much >plastic? Okay, that does sound reasonable. I don't think a chewed up bit of plastic is as likely to cause a blockage as many other foreign objects, but I guess it's possible. My cat did vomit one piece, so obviously it didn't agree with her. >> >Also, chemicals are used to treat the plastic. I have no idea if they >> >could harm my cats, but I sure wouldn't want to chance it. They are [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >Even bags straight from the box they come in can be exposed to insects >and diseased pests if the store or warehouse is not kept sanitary. So what if you wash the bag before the cat gets hold of it? Wouldn't that get rid of these potential germs and toxins? Yes, I know that plastic bowls can harbor bacteria but that's because they get little nicks, unlike steel or ceramic. I'm not sure plastic bags are in quite the same category. >> >Basically, I wouldn't want my baby sucking on them, so I don't let my >> >cats. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >I'd say 9 out of 10 times, the plastic would be fine if the cat didn't >consume it, but it's that 1 time that makes me never want to go there. Okay, that's basically what I was trying to find out. As I said, one of our cats occasionally manages to find a piece of plastic to chew, although we try to keep that stuff away from her. But I haven't observed any harm coming of her doing so, and I suspect, as you say, that only rarely would it cause a problem. So it's not something to panic about if one finds the cat has chewed a bit of plastic. Now, what about cardboard boxes? She loves to chew on those too. Especially a nice, comfy brand new shoebox. circa 19 Nov 2003 23:08:24 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Yngver (yngver@aol.comnospam) said, > Now, what about cardboard boxes? She loves to chew on those too. Especially a > nice, comfy brand new shoebox. Oscar, my same doofus who has the plastic fetish, tries to crawl into Kleenex boxes. I don't think he quite "gets" that his chubby fifteen- pound butt isn't going to fit in a 4"x4"x12 box. Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. >Oscar, my same doofus who has the plastic fetish, tries to crawl into >Kleenex boxes. I don't think he quite "gets" that his chubby fifteen- >pound butt isn't going to fit in a 4"x4"x12 box. Well, our box-lover is 12 and half pounds, but it still seems that the smaller the box, the more she wants to try to squeeze into it, and then she sits in it purring with her pudge hanging out over the sides. I used to have another cat like that--the shoebox was only fun if it was almost too snug to squeeze into. Wonder why. Our slim cats, btw, don't much care about shoeboxes. > Well, our box-lover is 12 and half pounds, but it still seems that the smaller > the box, the more she wants to try to squeeze into it, and then she sits in it > purring with her pudge hanging out over the sides. I used to have another cat > like that--the shoebox was only fun if it was almost too snug to squeeze into. > Wonder why. Our slim cats, btw, don't much care about shoeboxes. My cat likes to be enclosed--not closed up, but enclosed. She prefers smaller boxes to ones that would actually fit her (except for her travelling cage, of course) and I think it's because she feels safe (hidden) in the smaller ones. I also noticed that when she sleeps, she likes to sleep in nooks and crannies where she's surrounded by at least three sides. Like in the nook of the back of my knee when I sleep on my side. I think it might be related to her being a stray at one time (probably for most of her life before I got her). She probably had to find places to hide, with one side open as an escape route. It's kind of sad, actually, how she still has a lot of habits from her stray-hood even though she's been living a comfortable life with us for the last three-ish years. rona Signature***For e-mail, replace .com with .ca Sorry for the inconvenience!*** circa 20 Nov 2003 03:23:02 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Yngver (yngver@aol.comnospam) said, > >Oscar, my same doofus who has the plastic fetish, tries to crawl into > >Kleenex boxes. I don't think he quite "gets" that his chubby fifteen- [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > like that--the shoebox was only fun if it was almost too snug to squeeze into. > Wonder why. Our slim cats, btw, don't much care about shoeboxes. I truly believe that cats think they're the size of the other cats they see. Jacob thinks he's big because Oscar is a chunka chunka burnin' luuv, and Oscar thinks he's small because Jacob and Camille are petite. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it! ;-) Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. >I truly believe that cats think they're the size of the other cats >they see. Jacob thinks he's big because Oscar is a chunka chunka >burnin' luuv, and Oscar thinks he's small because Jacob and Camille >are petite. That's my theory and I'm sticking to it! ;-) Interesting. It's true it's only our pudgy cat that wants to squeeze into tight places. She seems to know she is heavier than the other cats, because she uses her weight to advantage when play/fighting, but she doesn't seem to realize her girth. >Well, our box-lover is 12 and half pounds, but it still seems that the >smaller [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >into. >Wonder why. Our slim cats, btw, don't much care about shoeboxes. Oh, gee, so other people's cats do this too. The smaller the box, the harder Frank tries to get into it. He can cram himself into anything, ignoring the parts that hang out, and go to sleep. I've posted this before, but it's a classic example, and slept in this box for days. http://www.members.aol.com/sriddles/bonsaifrank.jpg >From: sriddles@aol.comkitty (Sherry ) >http://www.members.aol.com/sriddles/bonsaifrank.jpg OMG, that is so cute!!! What a great pic, Sherry :) Lauren ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm So *you're* the one who started the bonsai website!! :) Sherry, that is one of the most adorable pictures I've ever seen! :) K >>Well, our box-lover is 12 and half pounds, but it still seems that the >>smaller [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > classic example, and slept in this box for days. > http://www.members.aol.com/sriddles/bonsaifrank.jpg >So *you're* the one who started the bonsai website!! :) Sherry, that is >one of the most adorable pictures I've ever seen! > >:) K Oh, you got me. Yeah, that was me. As an update, Frank has recently been repotted in the flower bed next to the catnip and is simply flourishing. http://www.members.aol.com/gladyss5/frankgarden.jpg Sherry >>So *you're* the one who started the bonsai website!! :) Sherry, that is >>one of the most adorable pictures I've ever seen! [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Sherry Oh! More more more! <Karen claps hands with glee> Does he *ever* take a bad picture? K >>> So *you're* the one who started the bonsai website!! :) Sherry, >>> that is one of the most adorable pictures I've ever seen! [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > K What a great picture! > >Well, our box-lover is 12 and half pounds, but it still seems that the > >smaller [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > classic example, and slept in this box for days. > http://www.members.aol.com/sriddles/bonsaifrank.jpg Thanks for sharing that. ;-) What a pretty boy! It is a cat rule that NO box shall go unoccupied for less than 5 minutes, no matter how small it is. I do a lot of ebay, and get a lot of "help" from the kitties when packing boxes, and have to be cautious not to pack a cat! It is hilarious to see them stuff themselves into boxes _way_ too small for them. K. >^,,^< Cats-haven Hobby Farm >^,,^< Katra@centurytel.net >^,,^< "There are millions of intelligent species in the universe, and they are all owned by cats" -- Asimov Custom handcrafts, Sterling silver beaded jewelry http://cgi3.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=katra circa 21 Nov 2003 13:19:31 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Sherry (sriddles@aol.comkitty) said, > Oh, gee, so other people's cats do this too. The smaller the box, the harder > Frank tries to get into it. He can cram himself into anything, ignoring the > parts that hang out, and go to sleep. I've posted this before, but it's a > classic example, and slept in this box for days. > http://www.members.aol.com/sriddles/bonsaifrank.jpg <GUFFAW> I thought mine were bad! Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. Okay, out of sheer curiosity, I got out a shoebox & left it (open) in plain sight. Neither cat has paid the least bit of attention to it, nevermind curling up in it - or trying to. Otoh, if I put out a large box (which I have done for years), they are always immediately drawn to it, & spend plenty of time lounging &or playing in it. Cathy -- "Staccato signals of constant information..." ("The Boy in the Bubble") Paul Simon > >Well, our box-lover is 12 and half pounds, but it still seems that the > >smaller [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > classic example, and slept in this box for days. > http://www.members.aol.com/sriddles/bonsaifrank.jpg circa Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:54:28 -0500, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Cathy Friedmann (clfr@adelphia.net) said, > Okay, out of sheer curiosity, I got out a shoebox & left it (open) in plain > sight. Neither cat has paid the least bit of attention to it, nevermind > curling up in it - or trying to. Otoh, if I put out a large box (which I > have done for years), they are always immediately drawn to it, & spend > plenty of time lounging &or playing in it. Mine aren't that picky. Any box will do. :-) Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. > Now, what about cardboard boxes? She loves to chew on those too. > Especially a nice, comfy brand new shoebox. lol I think if some pet foods contain cellulose, a little cardboard isn't going to hurt. > Plastic > breeds bacteria easier than steel and doesn't sanitize as well. Yes, plastic is very dangerous. Deadly, even. This is why the following items are never made from plastic: - Cutlery - Cups - Babies' bottles - Plates - Food wrap - Cat litter trays - Chopping boards - Drinks containers - Foos storage containers If any of these items were made from plastic, the population would be dropping like flies, little fake plastic flies. > Plastic bags can have all manner of bacteria and germs on them from the > store from the raw meats, insecticides and poisons from the vegetables, > and toxic cleaning solutions and even rat poison from sitting in the > back room. If the store has an insect or pest problem, they may also > have droppings on them - sometimes from diseased pests. Yes, yes - also, a passing mass-murder inclined paranoid-cat-hating schizoid biochemist might soak the bags in Dead-Cat Killer Horror Fluid. Plastic bags are the number 1 cause of cat deaths in the western world; it's also true that humans are dying everyday from eating items that were held within plastic shopping bags. Plastic-bag related deaths led to the downfall of the Roman Empire. Plastic bags are strictly licensed in most US states, and you need a special bag-license and bag-bio barrier before you can use these dastardly things. Don't Go Plastic! Steve. circa 20 Nov 2003 16:05:38 -0800, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Steve G (news@stevethepsycho.co.uk) said, > - Foos storage containers They make containers for foos? Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. > > Plastic > > breeds bacteria easier than steel and doesn't sanitize as well. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > If any of these items were made from plastic, the population would be > dropping like flies, little fake plastic flies. <snip> > Yes, yes - also, a passing mass-murder inclined paranoid-cat-hating > schizoid biochemist might soak the bags in Dead-Cat Killer Horror [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Steve. I love the way you made you point Steve... :) Carrie > - Cutlery > - Cups > - Babies' bottles > - Plates > - Food wrap All of which come in a box or in wrapping, not sitting free on the floor. Would you eat from plastic forks that were not wrapped in some way? Even at fast-food restaurants, they wrap the plastic cutlery. Baby bottles should be sanitized daily. Plates and cups are disposable. You don't reuse them without washing them, and even that is rare. None of these are meant for reuse. Plastic thick enough (that is not disposable) should be washed in very hot water in the dishwasher to kill germs. > - Cat litter trays Not made to be licked nor expected to be sanitary. > - Chopping boards Should be sanitized or food should be cooked well after touching. Salmonella loves these. Plastic chopping boards are the best friend of cross-contamination. > - Drinks containers Not reused and the inside was sterile (if you meant bottles). The edge, if you drink from it, was covered by the cap. > - Foos storage containers (food storage containers) Should be sanitized in the dishwasher if not disposable. > If any of these items were made from plastic, the population would be > dropping like flies, little fake plastic flies. If any of those items were sitting on the floor of the grocery store's back room, would you put it in your mouth? If you would, please still say you wouldn't. That's disgusting. -- ~kaeli~ In democracy your vote counts. In feudalism your count votes. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace >From: kaeli tiny_one@NOSPAM.comcast.net >> - Chopping boards > >Should be sanitized or food should be cooked well after touching. >Salmonella loves these. Plastic chopping boards are the best friend of >cross-contamination. I would never use a plastic cutting board just for this reason. ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm circa Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:49:51 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, kaeli (tiny_one@NOSPAM.comcast.net) said, > If any of those items were sitting on the floor of the grocery store's > back room, would you put it in your mouth? > > If you would, please still say you wouldn't. That's disgusting. S-E-N-S-E-O-F-H-U-M-O-R That's so you know how to spell it when you ask for one for Christmas. Laura SignatureNeurosis is the inability to tolerate ambiguity. -Sigmund Freud (...) > Would you eat from plastic forks that were not wrapped in some way? Even > at fast-food restaurants, they wrap the plastic cutlery. Well, I work near a hospital and usually get lunch at the hospital cafeteria. The plastic cutlery in that cafe is not wrapped. (Of course, the hospital specialises in plastic-related deaths, so maybe that's the reason - keeps the plastic surgeons [wahey!] in a job). (...) > If any of those items were sitting on the floor of the grocery store's > back room, would you put it in your mouth? I would put them all in my mouth at once. I would then walk backwards making beeping noises, in an attempt to mimic a garbage disposal truck. Steve. > (...) > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > making beeping noises, in an attempt to mimic a garbage disposal > truck. Oh, the imagery. *ROFLMAO* hehe Signature-- ~kaeli~ A lot of money is tainted - It taint yours and it taint mine. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace circa Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:35:08 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, kaeli (tiny_one@NOSPAM.comcast.net) said, > They are non-digestible. > A cat can bite off pieces, even if it's tied. THE CAT DOESN'T EAT THE PLASTIC. Reading isn't your strong suit, is it, although knee-jerk reactions sure seem to be. Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. circa Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:35:08 -0600, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, kaeli (tiny_one@NOSPAM.comcast.net) said, > They are non-digestible. > A cat can bite off pieces, even if it's tied. Sorry, kaeli, I didn't mean to snap at you. I'm just finding it ridiculous that people are jumping on this "just because". If the cat isn't eating the plastic and if it's clean and if there's no way he's going to choke on it or be strangled by it, then what is the _actual_ problem? There isn't one. Or do all the people who aren't actually giving real reasons also never allow their cats to play with toys that have plastic, or dyes, or feathers on them? I think not. What about plastic catnip balls? Those are plastic. What about cat dancers? Those have feathers and STRINGS. What about fuzzy fake mice? They're either made of polyester and other plastics, or they're made of rabbit fur. Give me a break, people. Letting a cat play with a knotted up grocery bag is not harmful to the cat. Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. > Sorry, kaeli, I didn't mean to snap at you. I'm just finding it > ridiculous that people are jumping on this "just because". If the cat > isn't eating the plastic and if it's clean and if there's no way he's > going to choke on it or be strangled by it, then what is the _actual_ > problem? There isn't one. No, there isn't. I thought I clarified that I was generalizing and telling my opinion about how I feel with my own cats and plastic bags, but I guess I didn't. > Give me a break, people. Letting a cat play with a knotted up grocery > bag is not harmful to the cat. Most of the time, no, it isn't. I hate to make blanket statements that something is safe, because then some doofus might give it to their cat who *does* like to eat it, then the cat gets sick... -- ~kaeli~ All I ask is the chance to prove that money cannot make me happy. http://www.ipwebdesign.net/wildAtHeart http://www.ipwebdesign.net/kaelisSpace >From: yngver@aol.comnospam (Yngver) >>Plastic bags are a bad idea.... Period. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >if the bag has been tied securely in knots as Laura described . . .? What are >the other dangers of plastic bags? I'd like to know. In my case, one of my cats rips out little pieces of the bag and I don't want him ingesting them. ________ See my cats: http://community.webshots.com/album/56955940rWhxAe Raw Diet Info: http://www.holisticat.com/drjletter.html http://www.geocities.com/rawfeeders/ForCatsOnly.html Declawing Info: http://www.wholecat.com/articles/claws.htm circa Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:04:08 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, Judy F (xphile01@catlover.com) said, > I have three cats, and all of them like to lick plastic bags. One of them > likes to chew the plastic too. Anyone else have a cat like this? Also, does > anyone think this is dangerous in any way? My Oscar has been doing it his entire nine years, and it has never harmed him. He never eats it, though, just chews on it. Laura SignatureI am Dyslexia of Borg, Your a.s will be laminated. My Oscar and Jessie just lick, but Felix chews.. Sometimes I find little cat teeth marks in the strangest places that happen to have plastic covers etc. I did have another cat who used to chew his way through plastic coverings to get to the food/cake inside... I learned to put everything away before bed from him!!! Judy F > circa Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:04:08 GMT, in rec.pets.cats.health+behav, > Judy F (xphile01@catlover.com) said, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Laura |
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