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Mitch@hotmail.com - 17 Nov 2003 12:52 GMT
I'm the one who has considered bringing in a stray, and did not want
to declaw her.

Before I commit to letting her in full time, I've been letting her in
for short periods (an hour or so), supervised.

I bought a sisal scratching post, and one of those cardboard
horizontal scratching pads.

When she comes in, she goes straight for my recliner and starts
scratching it.

I gently pick her up and set her next to the post.
She hasn't used it once.

But 5 minutes later, she goes back and scratches the chair.

I can't let her live inside until I can trust her.
How do I train her to scratch the post?
Gail - 17 Nov 2003 13:41 GMT
Try the turbo scratcher, which can be purchased on line. My cats all love it
and never used the post. Some cats are horizontal scratchers. It is
inexpensive and worth a try.
Gail
> I'm the one who has considered bringing in a stray, and did not want
> to declaw her.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> I can't let her live inside until I can trust her.
> How do I train her to scratch the post?
Wendy - 17 Nov 2003 14:00 GMT
You can also try that sticky tape stuff on the recliner. My new girl was
going to town on the stereo speaker. I put sticky stuff on that and got one
of those cat trees/scratching posts wrapped with the rope over the weekend
and she hasn't messed with the speaker since. I sprayed the cat tree
liberally with cat nip spray (don't know if that did anything or not). By
the looks of the sticky tape it shouldn't be a problem to remove when I'm
sure the cat is well established with the appropriate things to scratch.

Wendy

Try the turbo scratcher, which can be purchased on line. My cats all love it
and never used the post. Some cats are horizontal scratchers. It is
inexpensive and worth a try.
Gail
<Mitch@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm the one who has considered bringing in a stray, and did not want
> to declaw her.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> I can't let her live inside until I can trust her.
> How do I train her to scratch the post?
Mary - 17 Nov 2003 23:06 GMT
> You can also try that sticky tape stuff on the recliner. My new girl was
> going to town on the stereo speaker. I put sticky stuff on that and got one
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Wendy

All great advice. I pin aluminum foil (you could tape it, too) to the
places they like
to scratch. They hate it and will not touch it--and you sure can tell
that they have
not been there. After two weeks of a funny looking chair, you can take
the foil
down because the cat will be trained.

Meanwhile ... everyone offered this same advice the first time around,
no?
Katra - 18 Nov 2003 07:41 GMT
Rub the scratching post with fresh catnip. ;-)
I can guarantee that will get a good response from most cats!

I grow my own...... so always have access to it.

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kaeli - 17 Nov 2003 14:18 GMT
> I'm the one who has considered bringing in a stray, and did not want
> to declaw her.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> When she comes in, she goes straight for my recliner and starts
> scratching it.

Get a post closer to the material of the recliner. Make the recliner
uninviting by putting StickyPaws on it and spraying it with a citrus-
scented air freshener.
If she likes catnip, put some on the post.

The post must be more inviting than the chair. If she likes the chair,
she likes that material and/or that location.
Also, place the post very near the chair. Move the chair if you have to,
to see if it is the location she actually likes, not the chair.

> I gently pick her up and set her next to the post.

Do you praise her and play with her next to it and on it?
If she likes string, play with some on the post, running the string over
it so she grabs it and her claws dog in the post. Praise and treat.

> She hasn't used it once.

Place her paws on the post if she doesn't mind her paws touched. Praise,
pet, and treat.

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Mitch@hotmail.com - 17 Nov 2003 14:49 GMT
Thanks.  I'll try these things.  The post is supposed to be treated
with catnip, but I'll order some of the spray (small town, no pet
shop, gotta buy everything online).

She's definitely a vertical scratcher...I watch her outside on the
deck posts and trees.  But I bought her the horizontal scratch pad
anyway.  It's just cardboard, with a ton of catnip dumped into it.

The cat has really come a long way from that scrawny, beat up thing
that showed up back in July.

We just need to overcome the scratching situation, and she can come
in.
kaeli - 17 Nov 2003 15:31 GMT
> Thanks.  I'll try these things.  The post is supposed to be treated
> with catnip, but I'll order some of the spray (small town, no pet
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> deck posts and trees.  But I bought her the horizontal scratch pad
> anyway.  It's just cardboard, with a ton of catnip dumped into it.

Try REAL catnip.
http://www.petsmart.com/products/product_21483.shtml

Also, if she likes trees and the deck, try a wooden post.
http://www.lovethatcat.com/cat-scratching-post.html
Or even a natural log from your area, bark and all, secured well with a
screw onto a flat, thick board.
http://amby.com/cat_site/declaw.html#build-it

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Jeannie - 17 Nov 2003 15:56 GMT
I had the same problem with my cat.  I bought her a scratching post and she
absolutely wouldn't use it.  She seemed to prefer waiting until I was asleep
in bed and scratching the bottom of the bed.  My solution was to put the
post right next to the bed (which she obviously liked scratching).
Everytime she started scratching the bed I shouted "NO" really loudly.
Secondly I made a point of playing with her at the scratching post by
dragging pieces of wool over it so that she sank her claws in.

She got the message eventually and now she uses it all the time.  Funnily
enough I bought catnip spary initially to try and lure her to the post, but
my cat HATES it so now I spray it on things that I don't want her to touch.

Jeannie
Mary - 17 Nov 2003 23:10 GMT
> > I gently pick her up and set her next to the post.
>
> Do you praise her and play with her next to it and on it?

MAJORLY important, and something men will not usually do. Coo and talk
sweet to her.
Use a soothing tone of voice and tell her gooooooood girrrrllllllll
while petting her. When you sound about as stupid as you can imagine
sounding, you have it right. You can tell when the cat loves your
voice as her eyes will get narrow and she will lean into your hand
when you pet her.

And, as Kaeli said, cat treats will help your case! Put a treat in
your pocket, then place her paws on the post and gently "scratch" with
them, then give her a treat.
Annie Wxill - 17 Nov 2003 18:12 GMT
> I'm the one who has considered bringing in a stray, and did not want
> to declaw her.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> I can't let her live inside until I can trust her.
> How do I train her to scratch the post?

Mitch,
Thank you for continuing to care for this cat. Believe me, you can have both
the cat and unshredded furniture, but it will take some adjustment for both
you and the cat. Some accommodations will be temporary on your part.

You say that the first thing the cat does after entering the house is to
head to your recliner for a scratch. This is probably because the cat is
excited and happy to be inside with you.  When we come into the house, our
cats usually greet us and then scratch one of our conveniently located
posts, at which time, we lavishly praise them.  From time to time, we join
them and scratch a little on the post ourselves to reinforce the behavior.

Your problem may be the location of the scratching post.  When the cat comes
inside, does she have to pass the chair in order to get to the post?  I
suggest that at least for now that you make the location of the post more
convenient than the chair to the entrance she uses to your house. This may
involve moving the post, the chair, or both. I know that it seems like a lot
of trouble, but once you get the kinks worked out, you will be rewarded more
than you ever imagined and you can put some things back the way you want
them.

You can make the post more attractive by rubbing a little catnip into the
sisal.

In addition to making the post more convenient, you can take some temporary
measures to make the chair less attractive. A product called something like
Sticky Paws is a tape that you put on places where you do not want the cat
to scratch.  Also, you can use Feliway (on the chair, not the cat), which is
a behavior modification spray.  If you use Feliway, you may find that the
cat rubs her face on the chair.  This would be a normal reaction.  Perhaps
an Internet search would lead you to some non-toxic sprays that are
unattractive to cats.  Be careful to make sure that the product label
specifically not toxic to cats.  They are sensitive to many chemicals.

Now, when the cat comes inside, you go to the post and make noisy scratching
sounds while calling to her.  She is very likely to join you.

If the cat still goes to the chair, continue to pick her up and take her to
the post and initiate a scratching session.

She should catch on pretty quickly.

Good luck.
Annie
-L. - 18 Nov 2003 11:53 GMT
> I'm the one who has considered bringing in a stray, and did not want
> to declaw her.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> I gently pick her up and set her next to the post.
> She hasn't used it once.

This is no big surprise.

> But 5 minutes later, she goes back and scratches the chair.
>
> I can't let her live inside until I can trust her.
> How do I train her to scratch the post?

She needs a tree.  A substantial, LARGE, cat tree - 5 ft tall or more,
that she can climb on, sit on and destruct.  Cats won't use anything
they feel is unstable.  She may also need various textures (wood,
cardboard, sisal, fiber board) to get her interested, or keep her
interested.  I have found that any cat will accept a cat tree - I
haven't encountered one yet that hasn't.  My own used them with no
training at all.  IMO the smaller posts are useless, the turbo
scratchers (horizontal) work for cats that like hori surfaces, and the
sisal things are useless.

Good luck,
-L.
Wendy - 18 Nov 2003 12:27 GMT
Mitch@hotmail.com wrote in message
news:<dughrv4foa02b9dtj754oa6mlbfq3tf7ma@4ax.com>...
> I'm the one who has considered bringing in a stray, and did not want
> to declaw her.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> I gently pick her up and set her next to the post.
> She hasn't used it once.

This is no big surprise.

> But 5 minutes later, she goes back and scratches the chair.
>
> I can't let her live inside until I can trust her.
> How do I train her to scratch the post?

She needs a tree.  A substantial, LARGE, cat tree - 5 ft tall or more,
that she can climb on, sit on and destruct.  Cats won't use anything
they feel is unstable.  She may also need various textures (wood,
cardboard, sisal, fiber board) to get her interested, or keep her
interested.  I have found that any cat will accept a cat tree - I
haven't encountered one yet that hasn't.  My own used them with no
training at all.  IMO the smaller posts are useless, the turbo
scratchers (horizontal) work for cats that like hori surfaces, and the
sisal things are useless.

Good luck,
-L.

I have to agree with you on the tree. I've had scratching posts around here
forever and had mixed results with the cats using them. Tiggy still has her
favorite and is too old and infirm to do much climbing on the tree but the
two younger ones LOVE it. Not only has Isabel stopped scratching the stereo
speaker but it has her exercising! As she was quite portly when we adopted
her 2 months ago this is something she really needed. It's helped wear out
baby boots so we actually get some sleep around here at night. He sleeps on
the bed with us instead of doing laps - on the bed - with us. Kind of a
twofer. It was expensive but definitely worth it and much, much cheaper than
replacing household items that get ruined by the scratching. All three of
them sit quietly to get their claws clipped so that helps too.

Wendy
-L. - 18 Nov 2003 21:30 GMT
> I have to agree with you on the tree. I've had scratching posts around here
> forever and had mixed results with the cats using them. Tiggy still has her
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Wendy

You can make them at home for much less, plus you can incorporate some
fun surfaces like tree trunks, etc.  Of course, you have to be a
little handy. ;)

-L.
kaeli - 19 Nov 2003 14:14 GMT
> You can make them at home for much less, plus you can incorporate some
> fun surfaces like tree trunks, etc.  Of course, you have to be a
> little handy. ;)
>
> -L.

I know I wish I were handy enough!

I've seen some awesome plans on the 'net, but I have two left hands when
it comes to making things. The posts would be crooked and the nails
would be bent. LOL

I can't even sew.

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kaeli - 18 Nov 2003 14:49 GMT
> IMO the smaller posts are useless, the turbo
> scratchers (horizontal) work for cats that like hori surfaces, and the
> sisal things are useless.

This is highly cat-dependent.
Rowan prefers vertical sisal, but will also use the horizontal sisal
pads. Occasionally uses the carpet vertical.
Isis prefers the vertical sisal, does not use the horizontal sisal, and
will sometimes use the vertical carpet.
Jeffrey prefers the horizontal carpet, but will also use the horizontal
vertical and occasionally uses either sisal.

Every one of them gets what they like with the cat tree, which has
horizontal and vertical in both sisal and carpet. They use that more
than anything. Second-up would be the horizontal sisal pads. Third up
are the vertical carpet posts.

Any post does need to be very secure, though, or the cat won't use it.
I have big sturdy ones.

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GreyTabbyLover - 20 Nov 2003 07:36 GMT
Maybe try to put some Catnip spray on the scratching post, that might help .
~*SooZy*~ - 20 Nov 2003 08:52 GMT
> Maybe try to put some Catnip spray on the scratching post, that might help .

yes that worked for one of my cats......

I also read once about drawing a line from the top of the post to the
bottom... not sure why but some people claimed it worked?????

my 4 week old kittens already use a scratch post, and the sisal mouse toys
we have.
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Marek Williams - 24 Nov 2003 08:10 GMT
>> Maybe try to put some Catnip spray on the scratching post, that might help

>yes that worked for one of my cats......

I read about that tip from someone else in here, and I just used it on
my new cat. Worked great.

Actually, he's a used cat, not new, although a reasonably late model.
Met him at the county animal shelter and he just insisted that I be
his new papa. He's in the middle of acclimatization to his new house
and doing wonderfully.

As for the scratching post, he had been living in a steel cage for the
past month at the shelter, so I can understand that he feels a real
need to scratch. Steel just doesn't cut it as a scratching material.
On the first day he scratched on my computer chair (which earned him a
swift swat and a loud NO!). He ran off and hid for a bit afterwards.
Then I heard a noise from the living room and he was scratching the
top of the couch. Another loud NO! and he ran off and hid again.

Then I decided I'd really better get a scratching post. I drove to the
local PetSmart, but everything they had looked ridiculously overpriced
and ugly as well. I ended up going to Home Depot instead, thinking
maybe I would just make one. I looked all over the store for carpet
remnants, but didn't find any. Then I wandered through the lumber
section and discovered rough-sawn cedar fencing boards. I bought four
of them that were six feet long and 5.5 inches wide. I took them home
and cut them in half, making eight 3-foot long boards, then nailed
four into a hollow square, repeating with the other four (planning to
make two scratching posts). Then I used some scrap plywood I had to
make a base and a top shelf for each post. They came out really great
and the fencing boards only cost about $8.

But the cat ignored my fine handcrafted scratching posts, so I rubbed
some catnip on them. That did it. He went nuts scratching on them. So
far he has come back to scratch on them a couple times when I was in
the next room, and he has not scratched on the furniture at all since.
So thanks to the person who suggested using catnip to train a cat to
use a scratching post. It seems to have done the trick.

If anyone needs a scratching post, rough-sawn fence boards are cheap
and the cats love them. After all, in the wild they use trees to
scratch on, so it's probably more natural and effective than carpeting
or sisal. Cedar is a very soft wood that is perfect. You wouldn't even
need to make them into a fancy post like I did -- just buy the board
and lean it against a wall.

More about my used cat later.

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