I posted some time ago about moving cats from Europe (Germany) to the
US and got many helpful replies. It has taken longer than initially
expected but finally we will be moving in three weeks. This cat move
is costing me a fortune (about 1K USD --> a lot of money for us these
days) and everybody thinks I am nuts for not simply giving them back
to the shelter and get new cats in California. Anyway, I have a few
questions though. We are downsizing from a 1300 square feet apartment
in Germany to 750 square feet in San Jose is that going to cause
problems? We will be moving at least two more times within the next 4
month (potentially 3 times) is that going to be a problem for the
cats? Total time in transit is somewhere around 20 hours and the
airline does not allow food or drink in the cat transport unit (aka
cage) is that OK? I will be taking some of their toys their bowls etc.
I am thinking about taking the Nico's basket and Kali's favourite
sleeping contraption. Is it worth it --> will it make it easier for
them to adapt or should I simply get them new things in the US? Both
cats hate cages and hate leaving the house, Nico usually doesn't eat
for a day after a vet visit. I have been thinking about taking them
and driving them around every other day or so to get them used to
traveling. Will that help?
These are the two travellers....
http://photos.yahoo.com/i_hear_the_lampire_down
Wendy - 14 Nov 2003 12:03 GMT
Have you discussed the move with your vet? I'd be concerned about the 20
hours without water.
Wendy
I posted some time ago about moving cats from Europe (Germany) to the
US and got many helpful replies. It has taken longer than initially
expected but finally we will be moving in three weeks. This cat move
is costing me a fortune (about 1K USD --> a lot of money for us these
days) and everybody thinks I am nuts for not simply giving them back
to the shelter and get new cats in California. Anyway, I have a few
questions though. We are downsizing from a 1300 square feet apartment
in Germany to 750 square feet in San Jose is that going to cause
problems? We will be moving at least two more times within the next 4
month (potentially 3 times) is that going to be a problem for the
cats? Total time in transit is somewhere around 20 hours and the
airline does not allow food or drink in the cat transport unit (aka
cage) is that OK? I will be taking some of their toys their bowls etc.
I am thinking about taking the Nico's basket and Kali's favourite
sleeping contraption. Is it worth it --> will it make it easier for
them to adapt or should I simply get them new things in the US? Both
cats hate cages and hate leaving the house, Nico usually doesn't eat
for a day after a vet visit. I have been thinking about taking them
and driving them around every other day or so to get them used to
traveling. Will that help?
These are the two travellers....
http://photos.yahoo.com/i_hear_the_lampire_down
Iso - 14 Nov 2003 17:42 GMT
Matt,
We are downsizing from a 1300 square feet apartment in Germany to 750 square
feet in San Jose is that going to cause problems? We will be moving at least
two more times within the next 4 month (potentially 3 times) is that going
to be a problem for the cats?
--The size of your residence isn't going to cause a problem for your cats.
The stress they will endure will be from the flight to the U.S. and the
uprooting that you may have to do three more times before you settle. You
are going to have your hands full.
Total time in transit is somewhere around 20 hours and the airline does not
allow food or drink in the cat transport unit is this ok?
--Its going to have to be, if you want to get your cats into the U.S. One
problem you are going to have to face when you arrive in the U.S. is
Customs. Granted your cats will be without water for almost a day, they will
be showing the initial signs of dehydration. The problem is that when
Customs examines your cats and they seem to look sick they will quarantine
your cats. The water concern may be a setback. You may want to seek advice
regarding how to properly hydrate your cat so that they will endure the trip
without becoming dehydrated.
I will be taking some of their toys their bowls etc. I am thinking about
taking the Nico's basket and Kali's favourite sleeping contraption. Is it
worth it --> will it make it easier for them to adapt or should I simply get
them new things in the US?
--DO NOT BRING ANY TOYS FROM GERMANY TO THE US. This will hold you up in
customs. You can throw a blanket into their cages, but that's about it. U.S.
Customs is very stringent regarding the importing of anything that an animal
has eaten from, or may have come in contact with. Customs has become as
strict about this, as they are regarding the importing of food or fruit
without approval. You can purchase new toys and bowls when you are settled.
You may want to consider leaving your cats with a friend in Germany until
you are settled in the U.S. I understand your bond with your cats is very
strong; however, you may want to explore other options.
Iso - 14 Nov 2003 17:53 GMT
I forgot to add, that if you do want to keep all your cats toys, you should
box them up and ship them via DSL, UPS... you your new residence in the U.S.
Don't bring them when you initially make the trip to the U.S.
> Matt,
>
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> you are settled in the U.S. I understand your bond with your cats is very
> strong; however, you may want to explore other options.
Brandy?Alexandre - 16 Nov 2003 03:20 GMT
Iso <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
> Total time in transit is somewhere around 20 hours and the airline
> does not allow food or drink in the cat transport unit is this ok?
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> regarding how to properly hydrate your cat so that they will
> endure the trip without becoming dehydrated.
After speaking to my vet about traveling with Kami by car for two days,
and she being CRF, he suggested gviing her sub-q the night before and
again when we get to the motel the first night. Even if your cats
don't have kidney problems, it might also be a good idea to hydrate
them that way

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Well, would you?
Joe Canuck - 17 Nov 2003 02:13 GMT
Brandy Alexandre wrote:
> Iso <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in rec.pets.cats.health+behav:
>
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> don't have kidney problems, it might also be a good idea to hydrate
> them that way
Oh for gawd sakes!
That last part up there about has to be the worst advice I've ever seen.
Considering the source I am not surprised in the least.

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Chris - 15 Nov 2003 03:50 GMT
20 hours without water seems a little much. If you have a stopover,
airlines (Ithought let you deplane the animals during layover) but I would
be careful about making sure they are put back. Also, are you sure airlines
won;t let you take them in cabin? Most airlines let 2 or 3 small animals in
carriers that fit under seat. I have traveled with a cat that way...
> I posted some time ago about moving cats from Europe (Germany) to the
> US and got many helpful replies. It has taken longer than initially
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> These are the two travellers....
> http://photos.yahoo.com/i_hear_the_lampire_down
Matt - 15 Nov 2003 08:51 GMT
> 20 hours without water seems a little much. If you have a stopover,
> airlines (Ithought let you deplane the animals during layover) but I would
> be careful about making sure they are put back. Also, are you sure airlines
> won;t let you take them in cabin? Most airlines let 2 or 3 small animals in
> carriers that fit under seat. I have traveled with a cat that way...
The flight is about twelve hours (direct) and both checkin and
checkout will be about 2 hours each. However, the drive to the airport
is about two hours also and I think the cats will be to excited to
drink or eat. Then I was told that customs will take a long time but
maybe they can give the cats some water? The reason why I can't take
them (or at least the tomcat) into the cabin is that there is a weight
limit.
"Only cats and dogs are permitted to travel in the passenger cabin.
The maximum weight for the animal including the carrier is 18lbs/8kgs
and may be a maximum of 55X40X20cm or 22x16x8in. "
Last time I took my tomcat to the vet he was about 18lbs (he didn't
even eat breakfast that day). He does have a little belly but he also
is very muscular (kinda looks like a weight lifter). He would have to
loose at least two pounds to go in the cabin and since I am leaving in
three weeks I don't think thats possible. I don't really want him to
loose weight anyways since he is great health and seem happy the way
he is. I was told that they can be placed next to each other in the
live animal cargo section so at least they will have each other which
is why I am planning to not just take one cat into the cabin.
I am thinking to get one of these rabbit drinking contraptions (the
ones where water only comes out when you lick it) and attaching it to
the cage. I am trying to find out from the airline if that's possible.
Chris - 16 Nov 2003 03:08 GMT
As far as I know they don't weigh them... they just make sure the carrier is
under the specified size... It may be a little cramped but my guess is that
the cat would much prefer sitting at your feet... I got a carrier that
opened from the top so I opened it during the flight to pet the cat--all she
wanted to do was sleep. My flights (including to/frm airport was a couple
of hours shorter. Also, I was able to take her out during stopover (with
collar & leash & only on my lap.) I bought some puppy 'liners' for botttom
of carrier, lugged water & dry food none of which cat was interested in.
I'd be really surprised if they weighed him... Maybe others have more
experience. You do however, need health certs, etc.
> > 20 hours without water seems a little much. If you have a stopover,
> > airlines (Ithought let you deplane the animals during layover) but I would
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> ones where water only comes out when you lick it) and attaching it to
> the cage. I am trying to find out from the airline if that's possible.
Linda E - 16 Nov 2003 15:32 GMT
Beautiful cats!
> I posted some time ago about moving cats from Europe (Germany) to the
> US and got many helpful replies. It has taken longer than initially
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> These are the two travellers....
> http://photos.yahoo.com/i_hear_the_lampire_down
Karen - 16 Nov 2003 18:42 GMT
> Beautiful cats!
I agree. Please let us know how the move goes.
Karen
Matt - 17 Nov 2003 12:21 GMT
I have decided to change the strategy, I will be using the services of
www.petair.de. They are able to provide the cats with water in transit
and will also take care of them if anything unexpected (delays etc.)
happens. This would reduce the time without food and water to about 11
hours (flight time) which I think is, while not pleasant for them,
reasonable.
"> Beautiful cats!"
Thanks, those cats are living like kings. Loads of attention, great
food, and healthcare etc. Both of them are very people friendly and
really affectionate. I will let you guys know how it goes......