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Debbie Wilson - 05 Aug 2005 15:49 GMT With apologies for a very OT post, but this is to the USA readers here: what do you consider the clearest, most detailed and accurate road maps? We are travelling to NY/NJ next month and hiring a car, and I want to get a few road maps - probably a big road atlas plus more detailed state road maps for NJ, NY and PA. Any advice? I was looking at the Rand McNally one and wondering if it also had good city plans? Also looked at the Delorme gazetteers - very nice indeed for a map-o-phile such as myself - do they have town plans too?
Any advice very welcome - and sorry for the OT post...
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Cheryl Perkins - 05 Aug 2005 16:06 GMT > With apologies for a very OT post, but this is to the USA readers here: > what do you consider the clearest, most detailed and accurate road maps? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > at the Delorme gazetteers - very nice indeed for a map-o-phile such as > myself - do they have town plans too?
> Any advice very welcome - and sorry for the OT post... I can't answer your question, but I can give you a bit of advice - check the date the map was produced, not the date it was printed. I've got maps of my own city kicking around that leave out entire subdivisions, and I once had a surreal conversation with a clerk who, when I asked how recent a map was, pointed out that it had been printed that year. I said, yes, but it couldn't have been *produced* that year, could it, since it left out x, y and z, and did she have anything more recent? She never did understand my questions, since there was such a recent date on the map she was offering me, why would I want something even more recent?
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Debbie Wilson - 05 Aug 2005 18:44 GMT > I can't answer your question, but I can give you a bit of advice - check > the date the map was produced, not the date it was printed. Good advice! I have ended up buying from Amazon.com rather than UK, as the UK one seems to have earlier versions of some maps, and consideraly less choice too.
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Yowie - 06 Aug 2005 00:31 GMT >> With apologies for a very OT post, but this is to the USA readers here: >> what do you consider the clearest, most detailed and accurate road maps? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > understand my questions, since there was such a recent date on the map she > was offering me, why would I want something even more recent? I've been living in this here house for over 5 years, and we were far from the first to move into this subdivision. And yet we *still* aren't any of the commonly printed maps. And add to the confusion, the official name for my suburb is "Horsley". However, in Sydney there is another new subdivision called "Horsley Park" which we often get mixed up with (despite *very* different post codes). If a local asks my address, I'll say "Horsley" but for anything outside of the local area I'll say "West Dapto". That way, I don't have to wait 6 weeks and harass the courier who is otherwise still driving around Horsley Park trying to find my house.
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Victor Martinez - 05 Aug 2005 16:22 GMT > Any advice very welcome - and sorry for the OT post... I like Rand McNally maps, but I usually go digital and use Google maps. If you have specific routes you will be following (ie. from town A to town B, or even from address A to address B), I highly suggest going to google maps and plotting a course. That, and a handy map should be able to minimize the chances of getting lost. :)
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Smokie Darling (Annie) - 05 Aug 2005 16:32 GMT > > Any advice very welcome - and sorry for the OT post... > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov > Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com Yep, Rand-McNally is probably the best map-maker. I do the online mapping as well (I use rand-mcnally online). However, as Victor suggested, be sure to have both, a "real" map and one (step-by-step) printed off the 'net.
I went on a road trip once to a place I hadn't been. Printed my map (with step-by-step instructions), and all was well, until I hit an area where there had been a major accident, and we were "re-routed" away from that intersection. Fortunately, I have a pretty decent sense of direction, but still, took me nearly two hours to reach the next point on my step by step instructions, rather than the anticipated 30 minutes.
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Debbie Wilson - 05 Aug 2005 18:44 GMT > I went on a road trip once to a place I hadn't been. Printed my map > (with step-by-step instructions), and all was well, until I hit an area [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > on my step by step instructions, rather than the anticipated 30 > minutes. Yikes! Well, I love maps and mapreading, so will definitely have a 'real' map too. Thanks, Annie!
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Steve Touchstone - 06 Aug 2005 16:09 GMT >Yep, Rand-McNally is probably the best map-maker. I do the online >mapping as well (I use rand-mcnally online). However, as Victor [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >on my step by step instructions, rather than the anticipated 30 >minutes. Years ago, when I retired from the Army in '93, I loaded up the 4x4 and took off to the west coast on an extended camping trip. I traveled with my laptop with Automap loaded. (A 386SX with, IIRC, a 30 meg HD running Dr Dos OS, laughable by today's standards but an excellent machine for that day and time.) Anyway, I set my preferences so that it routed me on secondary roads, with minimal time on four lane highways, and set out to visit as many National Parks as possible. The Automap program only let me down once, when it told me to take a right onto a road where I should have taken a left (or vice versa) and travel x number miles before taking another road. The funny thing is that when I got to the place I was supposed to make that first turn I noticed a sign saying that the road where I was supposed to make that second turn was x miles in the wrong direction, according to what Automap was telling me.
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Debbie Wilson - 05 Aug 2005 18:44 GMT > I like Rand McNally maps, but I usually go digital and use Google maps. > If you have specific routes you will be following (ie. from town A to > town B, or even from address A to address B), I highly suggest going to > google maps and plotting a course. That, and a handy map should be able > to minimize the chances of getting lost. :) That's a really good idea. I expect there are a couple of routes we will definitely be taking, so will try Googling for the best course to take. Have ordered the Rand McNally map too :-)
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From: djmaizels@mac.com (Debbie Wilson)
>With apologies for a very OT post, but this is to the USA readers here: >what do you consider the clearest, most detailed and accurate road maps? As others have said, the Rand McNally's are pretty good. My suggestion for travel in unfamiliar areas would be to get a good GPS navigator (I'm kinda partial to Garmin, myself). They're not cheap, but once you use one you'll never want to deal with those paper maps, again.
Debbie Wilson - 05 Aug 2005 18:44 GMT > As others have said, the Rand McNally's are pretty good. > My suggestion for travel in unfamiliar areas would be to get > a good GPS navigator (I'm kinda partial to Garmin, myself). > They're not cheap, but once you use one you'll never want to > deal with those paper maps, again. Ah yes - very nice. I'd love one someday... unfortunately finances are stretched at the moment but it's a very good tool to have along, for sure.
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Dan M - 05 Aug 2005 17:34 GMT > With apologies for a very OT post, but this is to the USA readers here: > what do you consider the clearest, most detailed and accurate road maps? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Deb. For your large-coverage atlas, I would suggest the Motor Carrier's Road Atlas. It's by Rand McNally, and it tends to have a bit more detail than the standard road atlas. It is intended for truck drivers, and you can be sure that truck drivers are very particular about having accurate maps! If you have a chance to visit a US truck stop before your trip you will probably be able to find the standard version for under $10. If you have to order online, the current version is still under $20. I would NOT recommend the deluxe addition - it has laminated pages that hold up very well, but for your purposes it would be overkill.
If you have a GPS receiver and a laptop, I recommend DeLorme Street Atlas software. Actually, it could even be pretty handy if you don't have a GPS, just for it's wonderful maps. I used mine extensively when I was still driving a truck. In fact, there were many times when I would have become badly lost if not for the mapping software. I don't how much it costs new, but you can find last year's edition (which is still pretty accurate) on eBay for really cheap.
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Debbie Wilson - 05 Aug 2005 18:44 GMT > For your large-coverage atlas, I would suggest the Motor Carrier's Road > Atlas. It's by Rand McNally, and it tends to have a bit more detail than > the standard road atlas. Interesting idea, thanks! Unfortunately we won't be visiting a truck stop before our visit as we're in London, England, and Amazon only have last year's edition available. But I'll bear it in mind for the future... one day we want to do a loooong road trip coast-to-coast across the US and that would probably be a great atlas to get.
> If you have a GPS receiver and a laptop, I recommend DeLorme Street Atlas > software. Actually, it could even be pretty handy if you don't have a GPS, > just for it's wonderful maps. I do have a laptop but it's a Mac, and the website says Windows only....
:-( Oh well. Thanks for the good suggestions - I had a feeling you would have some good advice to share! :-)
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Pamela Shirk - 05 Aug 2005 17:39 GMT > With apologies for a very OT post, but this is to the USA readers here: > what do you consider the clearest, most detailed and accurate road maps? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > at the Delorme gazetteers - very nice indeed for a map-o-phile such as > myself - do they have town plans too? I love Rand McNally maps, but I usually stop at a gas station or Wal-Mart as soon as I get to a town where I'm going to be driving the streets, rather than a main thoroughfare, and buy a map of that town/city. I have some floating around here for a lot of different cities, but none in the areas that you're heading for.
Often you can get city maps by googling the city and/or state that you're going to be going to. I also like Victor's suggestion about getting on line maps. We use map quest a lot for local directions.
Good luck on your trip. That is a big area that you're going to be in.
Pam S.
Debbie Wilson - 05 Aug 2005 18:44 GMT > I love Rand McNally maps, but I usually stop at a gas station or Wal-Mart as > soon as I get to a town where I'm going to be driving the streets, rather > than a main thoroughfare, and buy a map of that town/city. I have some > floating around here for a lot of different cities, but none in the areas > that you're heading for. Ah, thanks anyway, it's a good idea.
> Often you can get city maps by googling the city and/or state that you're > going to be going to. I also like Victor's suggestion about getting on line > maps. We use map quest a lot for local directions. Yes - I think some research is called for, and printing off a few things before we go.
> Good luck on your trip. That is a big area that you're going to be in. Well, we're staying in Secaucus, NJ and planning to visit NYC by public transport for about half the time, and then driving out for day trips the rest of the time. We're not sure where we'll go yet hence getting a map to cover any possibility :-) Anywhere within a 2-3 hour drive, I suppose! Assuming I don't totally freak out at the prospect of driving in the States, that is.
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Pamela Shirk - 05 Aug 2005 18:53 GMT > Well, we're staying in Secaucus, NJ and planning to visit NYC by public > transport for about half the time, and then driving out for day trips > the rest of the time. We're not sure where we'll go yet hence getting a > map to cover any possibility :-) Anywhere within a 2-3 hour drive, I > suppose! Assuming I don't totally freak out at the prospect of driving > in the States, that is. You'll do fine. There is a lot to see in that general area and you can find something to suit just about any interest. Please keep us informed as where you'll be, maybe a RPCA meeting can be arranged.
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Debbie Wilson - 05 Aug 2005 19:30 GMT > You'll do fine. There is a lot to see in that general area and you can find > something to suit just about any interest. Please keep us informed as where > you'll be, maybe a RPCA meeting can be arranged. > > Pam S. who'd love to be there, but can't We've earmarked a trip to the Six Flags adventure park one day, and the Jersey Shore another day, though not sure whereabouts... maybe a trip to Philadelphia, maybe a drive to Long Island, and that's about as far as we got! Trying to keep both of us entertained along with my DH's 18-year-old son who's coming along with us. Should be.... interesting!
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Annie Wxill - 05 Aug 2005 23:44 GMT ... Assuming I don't totally freak out at the prospect of driving
> in the States, that is. > Deb. Be sure to remember which side of the road you are on. ;-D Enjoy your trip. It sounds like you have a good plan. A lot travelers from other countries don't realize that the U.S. is huge. It's most of a continent, and a state can be a as big as some countries. There is a lot to see. Annie
Debbie Wilson - 06 Aug 2005 06:01 GMT > Be sure to remember which side of the road you are on. ;-D Thank you :-) I'll do my best. Have driven in France quite a lot and it was mostly fine.
> Enjoy your trip. It sounds like you have a good plan. A lot travelers from > other countries don't realize that the U.S. is huge. > It's most of a continent, and a state can be a as big as some countries. > There is a lot to see. I'm sure the 10 days will fly past - but I'm just as sure we'll be back again soon. I want to get to know the country where I was born :-)
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jmcquown - 05 Aug 2005 17:57 GMT > With apologies for a very OT post, but this is to the USA readers > here: what do you consider the clearest, most detailed and accurate [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Deb. No apologies necessary! I always use the Rand McNally Atlas. When John and I travel, I'm the navigator. I, who was until a few years ago map-clueless, managed to find us the easiest and most direct route from Davenport, Iowa down to Houston, Texas. Sometimes it doesn't require major highways to take the best route (and you see some pretty interesting things if you aren't on the highway).
IIRC, in New Jersey and Pennsylvania you are liable to encounter "turnpikes" (basically the main inter-state routes which require you pay a toll as you go).
I don't know about RM having *detailed* city plans since I'm not sure what it is you expect; they do have reduced down areas in the Atlas' for specific cities. We'd be lost (literally!) without the Atlas!
Jill
Debbie Wilson - 05 Aug 2005 18:44 GMT > No apologies necessary! I always use the Rand McNally Atlas. When John and > I travel, I'm the navigator. I, who was until a few years ago map-clueless, > managed to find us the easiest and most direct route from Davenport, Iowa > down to Houston, Texas. Sometimes it doesn't require major highways to take > the best route (and you see some pretty interesting things if you aren't on > the highway). Oh yes - I love mapreading, and have the most detailed maps for anywhere we go to in the UK. I love sending us down the back roads, it's much more fun :-)
> IIRC, in New Jersey and Pennsylvania you are liable to encounter "turnpikes" > (basically the main inter-state routes which require you pay a toll as you > go). Do you happen to know how much they might be? Is there someone to collect the money and give change, or do we need the exact money? I noticed there is a toll road almost as soon as we get out of Newark Airport.
> I don't know about RM having *detailed* city plans since I'm not sure what > it is you expect; they do have reduced down areas in the Atlas' for specific > cities. We'd be lost (literally!) without the Atlas! Thanks Jill!
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jmcquown - 05 Aug 2005 19:34 GMT >> IIRC, in New Jersey and Pennsylvania you are liable to encounter >> "turnpikes" (basically the main inter-state routes which require you [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > noticed there is a toll road almost as soon as we get out of Newark > Airport. Yes, there are toll-takers to collect the money and give you change. It's been almost 40 years since I was on the NJ Turnpike (I was a kid) but from what I can see it depends on the time of day. http://www.state.nj.us/turnpike/nj-vcenter-tollmap.htm
And for PA, there's this
http://www.paturnpike.com/toll/tollmileage.aspx
Sorry, I have no idea how often you'll encounter the toll-booths :)
>> I don't know about RM having *detailed* city plans since I'm not >> sure what it is you expect; they do have reduced down areas in the >> Atlas' for specific cities. We'd be lost (literally!) without the >> Atlas! > > Thanks Jill! You're very welcome! And in whatever town, look for Tourist Information signs (they have arrows leading you towards it, usually in the heart of the downtown area) which will point you to a Visitor's Center. They will have detailed city/town maps, brochures and information about local things of interest, free of charge.
Jill
Debbie Wilson - 05 Aug 2005 21:03 GMT > Yes, there are toll-takers to collect the money and give you change. It's > been almost 40 years since I was on the NJ Turnpike (I was a kid) but from [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.paturnpike.com/toll/tollmileage.aspx Great - thanks for the links!
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Jo Firey - 05 Aug 2005 20:20 GMT > With apologies for a very OT post, but this is to the USA readers here: > what do you consider the clearest, most detailed and accurate road maps? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Deb. We buy a new Rand MeNally atlas every few years, and get local maps for anywhere we might need them from the American Automobile Association. I've found the maps provided by car rental places very good in most cities. And to get a "feel" for where you are going try downloading Google Earth.
Jo
Debbie Wilson - 05 Aug 2005 21:03 GMT > We buy a new Rand MeNally atlas every few years, and get local maps for > anywhere we might need them from the American Automobile Association. I've > found the maps provided by car rental places very good in most cities. And > to get a "feel" for where you are going try downloading Google Earth. WOW. Google Earth is incredible. I loved Google Maps anyway, but this... But aarrghh - it's not yet available for Mac! Wahh!
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 05 Aug 2005 23:49 GMT > With apologies for a very OT post, but this is to the USA readers here: > what do you consider the clearest, most detailed and accurate road maps? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Any advice very welcome - and sorry for the OT post... On the rare occasions when I've done any cross-country driving, I always got maps from the AAA. The have something - called a "Triptick" if I remember rightly - which consists of quite detailed roadmap strips in a little booklet, starting at your point of departure, and giving you a route to your destination (or destinations). If there are particular places you want to see along the way, you can ask that they be included in your route. The last time I used one was twenty years ago (God, how quickly time flies!), but at that time they were provided free to Auto Club members. However, there may be a charge now, if they still furnish them.
Debbie Wilson - 06 Aug 2005 06:01 GMT > On the rare occasions when I've done any cross-country > driving, I always got maps from the AAA. The have something > - called a "Triptick" if I remember rightly - which consists > of quite detailed roadmap strips in a little booklet, > starting at your point of departure, and giving you a route > to your destination (or destinations). OK - sounds useful. I'll have a look on their website, maybe they do something similar online. Thanks!
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MaryL - 06 Aug 2005 20:43 GMT > With apologies for a very OT post, but this is to the USA readers here: > what do you consider the clearest, most detailed and accurate road maps? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Deb. I like AAA for individual state and city road maps. They also make excellent tour guides. It might be worthwhile for you to join just so you could obtain these products because you can get any number you want free of charge but *only* if you are a member. Membership also entitles you to reduced rates at a number of motels and hotels, and AAA will map out the routes if you want help getting to specific destinations. The obvious problem, of course, is that I don't know if non-residents can join. I do suggest that you check into it, though. Where do you live?
MaryL
Debbie Wilson - 08 Aug 2005 08:42 GMT > I like AAA for individual state and city road maps. They also make > excellent tour guides. It might be worthwhile for you to join just so you [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > problem, of course, is that I don't know if non-residents can join. I do > suggest that you check into it, though. Where do you live? Hi Mary,
I'm in London, England. They do provide a good service, don't they! I will certainly bear that in mind for any longer trips we might make by road in the future - I think we are all sorted for this visit, now. Thanks for your help!
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MaryL - 10 Aug 2005 02:26 GMT > With apologies for a very OT post, but this is to the USA readers here: > what do you consider the clearest, most detailed and accurate road maps? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Deb. Debbie, how soon will you be leaving? I have a good New Jersey/Pennsylvania map and a USA map that I could mail to you (AAA maps) if there is enough time. I could also send a Pittsburgh city map, but it doesn't sound like you will be that far west. Please email me privately with your address if you want the maps. My email attached to this is valid except that you need to "take-out-the-litter" first.
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Debbie Wilson - 10 Aug 2005 07:25 GMT > Debbie, how soon will you be leaving? I have a good New Jersey/Pennsylvania > map and a USA map that I could mail to you (AAA maps) if there is enough > time. I could also send a Pittsburgh city map, but it doesn't sound like you > will be that far west. Please email me privately with your address if you > want the maps. My email attached to this is valid except that you need to > "take-out-the-litter" first. Hi Mary,
That is a really kind offer - thank you! Fortunately, another generous person on this group has already offered to send me some maps they have of the area (thanks Jeanette :-) ), and I ordered a couple from Amazon too, so I think we'll be sorted. But thanks anyway! You're right, I don't think we'll get as far as Pittsburgh, although Philadelphia, my 'home' town, is definitely on the itinerary.
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SuzQ - 11 Aug 2005 13:32 GMT Hi Mary,
That is a really kind offer - thank you! Fortunately, another generous person on this group has already offered to send me some maps they have of the area (thanks Jeanette :-) ), and I ordered a couple from Amazon too, so I think we'll be sorted. But thanks anyway! You're right, I don't think we'll get as far as Pittsburgh, although Philadelphia, my 'home' town, is definitely on the itinerary.
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Debbie Wilson - 11 Aug 2005 14:15 GMT > Don't forget to have a Cheesesteak (if you're not a vegitarian,) also soft > pretzels are really good. Philly is a good food city. We had cheesesteaks when we were there in 2003, and they were completely delicious! Had never tasted anything like that, and I couldn't finish a whole one. Didn't try a soft pretzel but it sounds good. I will make sure I have one this time! We visited Reading Terminal Market when we were there, food heaven - such huge portions though!
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Lori - 10 Aug 2005 03:23 GMT >With apologies for a very OT post, but this is to the USA readers here: >what do you consider the clearest, most detailed and accurate road maps? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Deb. Debbie,
If you are willing to pay the extra cash for the Gazetteer, it will have detailed maps of every square mile of the state it is for. It also indicates topography to a certain degree, so if you are looking for flat areas or mountains, it will help you find it. I find them very handy for navigating through unfamiliar areas.
Grins,
Lori
Debbie Wilson - 10 Aug 2005 07:25 GMT > Debbie, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > for flat areas or mountains, it will help you find it. I find them > very handy for navigating through unfamiliar areas. Hi Lori - I did order the Gazetteer (that was a very hard word to type correctly ;-) and it is a great set of maps, extremely detailed. Pretty much the same as the Ordnance Survey maps we have here in the UK.
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Pamela Shirk - 10 Aug 2005 19:25 GMT > Hi Lori - I did order the Gazetteer (that was a very hard word to type > correctly ;-) and it is a great set of maps, extremely detailed. Pretty > much the same as the Ordnance Survey maps we have here in the UK. > > Deb. I was wondering how the Gazetteer maps stacked up to the Ordnance Survey maps. I always read about them in British novels and have always wondered about them.
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Debbie Wilson - 10 Aug 2005 21:09 GMT > I was wondering how the Gazetteer maps stacked up to the Ordnance Survey > maps. I always read about them in British novels and have always wondered > about them. The most detailed OS maps show the boundaries of people's back gardens, individual houses and sometimes individual trees! They are fabulous for exploring the back roads and byways of rural areas. I have a full set for Devon and Cornwall at the most detailed level, perfect for 'off the beaten track' driving. You can have a look here, click on 'get a map' try a place name such as 'Old Coulsdon'... zoom in to the highest level... I live underneath the feet of the blue duck symbol :-) http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/getamap/
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Cheryl Perkins - 10 Aug 2005 21:59 GMT > The most detailed OS maps show the boundaries of people's back gardens, > individual houses and sometimes individual trees! They are fabulous for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > level... I live underneath the feet of the blue duck symbol :-) > http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/getamap/ Our city council has an online map which can zoom in to the individual house and see who owns it and what its value is for purposes of calculating municipal taxes. You can also do other neat little things like draw in routes and get the exact number of km.
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Pamela Shirk - 11 Aug 2005 20:14 GMT > The most detailed OS maps show the boundaries of people's back gardens, > individual houses and sometimes individual trees! They are fabulous for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > level... I live underneath the feet of the blue duck symbol :-) > http://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/oswebsite/getamap/ That is just totally cool. (Ok, I am a geek, or is that geekette?) The Gazetteer for Washington State has the circular driveway for the place where we used to live. The house has been gone for over thirty years, but the driveway is still marked.
Pam S.
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