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jmcquown - 04 Aug 2005 04:03 GMT

Anyone here an MS Word guru? I am using a template d/l'd from the MS web
site for the flier. It's looking very good but I want to put a border down
the left side with images of produce (clip art! heheh). The template has
this box down the left set up as a text box so when I try to paste graphics
they run over into the main text. Word Help is not much help. Any ideas?

BTW he's now decided he wants 5000 of these; he's going to do a mailing (of
which I will play no part!). So I'll contact my acquaintance who runs a
print shop to ask about the price of printing and mark it up accordingly
(but reasonably).

Also, I don't want to wind up on Judge Judy (!) so should I get a written
contract or just the money up front or both? Thanks, everyone, for your
input!

Jill

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sriddles@aol.com - 04 Aug 2005 04:21 GMT

> Anyone here an MS Word guru? I am using a template d/l'd from the MS web
> site for the flier. It's looking very good but I want to put a border down
> the left side with images of produce (clip art! heheh). The template has
> this box down the left set up as a text box so when I try to paste graphics
> they run over into the main text. Word Help is not much help. Any ideas?

Ooo. Wish I could help, but I suck at MS Word. I always used
Pagemaker/Photoshop/Illustrator on the Mac.

> BTW he's now decided he wants 5000 of these; he's going to do a mailing (of
> which I will play no part!). So I'll contact my acquaintance who runs a
> print shop to ask about the price of printing and mark it up accordingly
> (but reasonably).

Jill, is he going to fold an 8.5x11 flyer in half and send bulk mail?
If so, you'll have to put a special box, with their bulk mail #
according to post office specifications in the upper right corner.
They'll give you literature at the post office that tells you exactly
how it has to look. If it's first class, you don't have to worry about
it.

> Also, I don't want to wind up on Judge Judy (!) so should I get a written
> contract or just the money up front or both? Thanks, everyone, for your
> input!
>
> Jill

I think a simple agreement on paper sure wouldn't hurt. You can ask for
a deposit, with the remainder of the money payable on receipt of the
product. Or money upfront, if you want. Wouldn't hurt, especially if
you have to pay the printer upfront.
Good luck! (Is there some way you can show off your flyer to us when
you're done?)

Sherry

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jmcquown - 04 Aug 2005 04:32 GMT

>> Anyone here an MS Word guru? I am using a template d/l'd from the
>> MS web site for the flier. It's looking very good but I want to put
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> how it has to look. If it's first class, you don't have to worry about
> it.

I've no clue how he plans to send these out. I seriously doubt he knows
anything about bulk-mail. He mentioned mailing but for all I know he's
going to have his cousins running around sticking these on windshields or in
mailboxes. This may be his idea of "mailing" :) I'm not getting involved
in that aspect of this project!

>> Also, I don't want to wind up on Judge Judy (!) so should I get a
>> written contract or just the money up front or both? Thanks,
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>
> Sherry

Thanks! I'm sure I can post a copy on webshots when I'm done. If I could
only get the danged produce images down the left border... grrrr! This is
looking like a really nice piece of work :)

Jill

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sriddles@aol.com - 04 Aug 2005 04:45 GMT

> I've no clue how he plans to send these out. I seriously doubt he knows
> anything about bulk-mail. He mentioned mailing but for all I know he's
> going to have his cousins running around sticking these on windshields or in
> mailboxes. This may be his idea of "mailing" :) I'm not getting involved
> in that aspect of this project!

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> Thanks! I'm sure I can post a copy on webshots when I'm done. If I could
> only get the danged produce images down the left border... grrrr! This is
> looking like a really nice piece of work :)
>
> Jill

Well, keep working at it. I just got finished making post-card type
invitations to our Humane society shower. I said "grrr" a lot. LOL.

Sherry

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 04 Aug 2005 05:09 GMT

>>Anyone here an MS Word guru? I am using a template d/l'd from the MS web
>>site for the flier. It's looking very good but I want to put a border down
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> Ooo. Wish I could help, but I suck at MS Word. I always used
> Pagemaker/Photoshop/Illustrator on the Mac.

And I have a program called "Print Shop Deluxe", which I
find much easier to use than Word. (Of course, I've been
using various versions of it ever since I got my first
computer, and although it's become much more sophisticated,
it's still basically the same when it comes to using it.)

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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 04 Aug 2005 05:06 GMT

> Also, I don't want to wind up on Judge Judy (!) so should I get a written
> contract or just the money up front or both? Thanks, everyone, for your
> input!

If he's that undecided about what he wants, I think a
written contract sounds like a good idea! It wouldn't have
to be in "legalese", just spell out what you will do for
him, and how much you will charge him for it.

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sriddles@aol.com - 04 Aug 2005 05:36 GMT

> > Also, I don't want to wind up on Judge Judy (!) so should I get a written
> > contract or just the money up front or both? Thanks, everyone, for your
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> to be in "legalese", just spell out what you will do for
> him, and how much you will charge him for it.

Yes, maybe more like an estimate than a formal contract. All you need
is the agreed price, the agreed form of payment, date of delivery and
such.
I've got Paint Shop on this PC, too. I've never played with it much. I
just really prefer the Imac for graphic stuff. Pagemaker is pretty much
obsolete now, but hey so am I. :-)

Sherry

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Shirley B. - 04 Aug 2005 06:03 GMT

Jill, hi. I just had to make a flyer for the owner of a wine bar near here.
She was talking about a grape border, but we ended up settling on a frame.
But I had played around with it. You say the template already has a text box
down the side. You should be able to insert your images in there. (This
sounds simplistic) but make sure your cursor is IN the text box. If it
doesn't work, maybe what the template has isn't a text box, but somethng
else. Are you able to delete that and insert your own text box? If you do,
I'd do the page setup margins as .5, .5, .5 and .5 so you don't lose too
much space on the side.
Good luck.

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> Anyone here an MS Word guru? I am using a template d/l'd from the MS web
> site for the flier. It's looking very good but I want to put a border
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>
> Jill

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jmcquown - 04 Aug 2005 06:31 GMT

> Jill, hi. I just had to make a flyer for the owner of a wine bar
> near here. She was talking about a grape border, but we ended up
> settling on a frame. But I had played around with it. You say the
> template already has a text box down the side. You should be able to
> insert your images in there.

The images run over (but don't obscure) the main text which includes a list
of what food they offer on the buffet every day.

(This sounds simplistic) but make sure

> your cursor is IN the text box. If it doesn't work, maybe what the
> template has isn't a text box, but somethng else.

It's a text box... I need it to accept graphic images but I can't figure out
how to change it. When I paste the images with my cursor IN the box it runs
the images over into the text in the next frame. Grrrrrr.

Are you able to

> delete that and insert your own text box?

I'm trying to figure out how to delete that and add a graphics box. The
text is done outside that frame.

Jill

If you do, I'd do the page

> setup margins as .5, .5, .5 and .5 so you don't lose too much space
> on the side.
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>> --
>> I used to have a handle on life...but it broke off.

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Shirley B. - 04 Aug 2005 06:40 GMT

Jill, I just did a mock-up of a page w/a textbox down the left side. I
grabbed some pix of grapes and stuck them in there. I 'print screened' it
and copied to Paint Shop.Made the pic into a jpg. I uploaded it to
alt.binaries.pictures.animals (ok, so it's not an animal, but it's handy).
Title is "textbox".

When you insert the images into the t'box, remember you have to downsize
them.

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>> Jill, hi. I just had to make a flyer for the owner of a wine bar
>> near here. She was talking about a grape border, but we ended up
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>>> --
>>> I used to have a handle on life...but it broke off.

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jmcquown - 04 Aug 2005 06:43 GMT

> Jill, I just did a mock-up of a page w/a textbox down the left side. I
> grabbed some pix of grapes and stuck them in there. I 'print
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> When you insert the images into the t'box, remember you have to
> downsize them.

I'll give it a try, thanks, Shirley! And give Rexie some scritches for me

Jill

>>> Jill, hi. I just had to make a flyer for the owner of a wine bar
>>> near here. She was talking about a grape border, but we ended up
[quoted text clipped - 51 lines]
>>>> --
>>>> I used to have a handle on life...but it broke off.

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Cheryl Perkins - 04 Aug 2005 12:46 GMT

> Jill, I just did a mock-up of a page w/a textbox down the left side. I
> grabbed some pix of grapes and stuck them in there. I 'print screened' it
> and copied to Paint Shop.Made the pic into a jpg. I uploaded it to
> alt.binaries.pictures.animals (ok, so it's not an animal, but it's handy).
> Title is "textbox".

> When you insert the images into the t'box, remember you have to downsize
> them.

also, I don't have Word on this computer, so I can't check how to do it,
but you should be able to change the wrap settings on the image. I think
you get a menu when you right-click on the image, but as I said, I can't
check now, and I don't use clipart enough to be absolutely sure. But it
seems to me that there are settings in that menu that helped me position
images. You can also probably use your own clip art as a page border, and
set it for left side only, but I haven't tried that myself.

I used to love WordPerfect, although I haven't used it in enough years
that I suspect I'm out of date on it now. My present employer insists on
Word, and I find figuring out how to do and fix things that aren't quite
right in Word far more difficult and counter-intuitive than it was in
Word.

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Monique Y. Mudama - 04 Aug 2005 15:04 GMT

> I used to love WordPerfect, although I haven't used it in enough
> years that I suspect I'm out of date on it now. My present employer
> insists on Word, and I find figuring out how to do and fix things
> that aren't quite right in Word far more difficult and
> counter-intuitive than it was in Word.

I used DOS WP 5.1 in high school journalism, and I still miss it.
Reveal codes for teh <sic> win, as my gaming friends would say.
WordPerfect was far more than a word processor; it was a publishing
system.

I use OpenOffice at home because it's both free and open source. It's
about as full-featured as I can imagine needing for anything I do at
home, and it has a built-in "export as PDF" feature that's mighty
handy. I liked sending out resumes in PDF because I knew the
recipient would see the document just as I'd seen it.

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Monique Y. Mudama - 04 Aug 2005 15:01 GMT

> Anyone here an MS Word guru? I am using a template d/l'd from the
> MS web site for the flier. It's looking very good but I want to put
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> written contract or just the money up front or both? Thanks,
> everyone, for your input!

No idea about Word.

I think you're right that you need one or the other -- contract or
money -- to protect yourself.

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