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Norm - 03 Aug 2005 19:11 GMT
A long time ago, when I got the Siamese they and I were delighted - me,
because they were my first cats, and they came from a cage at the SPCA.
But the landlord was less thrilled, in fact I was evicted.  

Fortunately I found a great 2bdrm just blocks from work and after a hard
day's move I was sound asleep but woken by a godawful sound.  Wondering
what it was then ... a cat.  A cat in trouble.  A Siamese cat in
trouble.  Well, long story short:  I'd opened a window in the other room
a couple inches at the top, and lowered the blinds but that didn't daunt
the male who, after exploring the open atrium above the garage, couldn't
jump back in and started caterwauling.  The female was answreing
inside.  And I could see all the  apartments facing the atrium had their
lights on!  First night!  No cats allowed.

I gambled and instead of of opening a window (and letting everyone know
whose cat it was) I went down a floor to the garage, out the door, and
called the cat quietly.  He stuck his head between the fence stiles, I
grabbed him and retraced my steps quietly and mercifully undetected.
But for a week I was expecting to have to apartment hunt again.  

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jmcquown - 04 Aug 2005 04:22 GMT
> A long time ago, when I got the Siamese they and I were delighted -
> me, because they were my first cats, and they came from a cage at the
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> mercifully undetected. But for a week I was expecting to have to
> apartment hunt again.

I would never move into an apartment that didn't allow pets.  I realize
there are often financial constraints (been there, done that) and pet
deposits can sometimes be daunting.  Sometimes there is also a monthly pet
fee tacked on.  But in reality, with the exception of (perhaps) the
mini-blinds and the occasional horking up of a hairball, the most damage a
cat will do is to your *own* property, not that of the landlord.  Being
evicted and having to find a new place by not following the rules sounds
like a major hassel.  Moving isn't a fun chore.  My recommendation: find a
place that allows you to have your cats.

Jill
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 04 Aug 2005 04:59 GMT
> I would never move into an apartment that didn't allow pets.  I realize
> there are often financial constraints (been there, done that) and pet
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> like a major hassel.  Moving isn't a fun chore.  My recommendation: find a
> place that allows you to have your cats.

I agree one hindred percent!  My present apartment is the
forst where I ever even had to pay a "pet deposit" - most of
the places I've lived, the owners took one look at me and
decided they'd rather have me plus my cats than most of the
people they'd shown the place to.  But of course, this is
the first real "apartment building" I've lived in - in the
past it was always a small house or at most a four-plex,
with the owners living right next-door.  (When you're
dealing directly with the owner, rather than a manager,
there aren't so many hard-and-fast rules.)
Jo Firey - 04 Aug 2005 05:10 GMT
>> A long time ago, when I got the Siamese they and I were delighted -
>> me, because they were my first cats, and they came from a cage at the
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>
> Jill

I like the attitude of one of our favorite beach front motels.  They allow
pets.  And almost never have a problem.  They would ban children and
teenagers if the law allowed I think, but not pets.

Jo
jmcquown - 04 Aug 2005 05:24 GMT
>>> A long time ago, when I got the Siamese they and I were delighted -
>>> me, because they were my first cats, and they came from a cage at
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>
> Jo

LOL!  My apartment complex used to be (when it was still legal) "adults
only".  As it is, they tend to keep the folks with children at one end of
the complex and those of us without children at the other, which works out
well.  Some of us don't have children for a reason ;)  I have no patience
for them (actually, it's not the kids so much as the parents who let them
run wild, but that's another issue).

Jill
Susan M - 04 Aug 2005 05:58 GMT
>> A long time ago, when I got the Siamese they and I were delighted -
>> me, because they were my first cats, and they came from a cage at the
>> SPCA. But the landlord was less thrilled, in fact I was evicted.

> I would never move into an apartment that didn't allow pets.  I realize
> there are often financial constraints (been there, done that) and pet
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> like a major hassel.  Moving isn't a fun chore.  My recommendation: find a
> place that allows you to have your cats.

Jill - IIRC, Norm had the Siamese many years ago.  This is a blast from the
past.  They were beautiful cats as I remember from his pictures :-)

Susan M
Otis and Chester
jmcquown - 04 Aug 2005 06:33 GMT
>>> A long time ago, when I got the Siamese they and I were delighted -
>>> me, because they were my first cats, and they came from a cage at
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> Susan M
> Otis and Chester

And this has to do with moving due to eviction re: pets not allowed... why?
I still maintain, don't move anywhere that doesn't allow pets if you have
pets.  Sneaking around will only result in trouble.

Jill
Norm - 04 Aug 2005 11:41 GMT
> > Jill - IIRC, Norm had the Siamese many years ago.  This is a blast
> > from the past.  They were beautiful cats as I remember from his
> > pictures :-)

> And this has to do with moving due to eviction re: pets not allowed... why?
> I still maintain, don't move anywhere that doesn't allow pets if you have
> pets.  Sneaking around will only result in trouble.

Well, the story is longer than that (aren't they all?).  I didn't have
cats when I lived in the first apartment and didn't plan on any due to
travel (explanation to friends, "Well, it wouldn't be fair to the cat
since I'm not home much, and two cats would be too much to handle").
The super in the building I moved to knew I had the Siamese and said it
wouldn't be a problem, in fact a woman I made friends with there had a
Siamese too.  But the lease contained the dreaded wordage and I still
feared being caught out, especially after that first night.  Norm

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Hobbes:  It's "The 1812 Overture."
Calvin:  I kinda like it. Interesting percussion section.
Hobbes:  Those are cannons.
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        Gee, I thought classical music was boring!
Steve Touchstone - 05 Aug 2005 01:17 GMT
>Well, the story is longer than that (aren't they all?).  I didn't have
>cats when I lived in the first apartment and didn't plan on any due to
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>Siamese too.  But the lease contained the dreaded wordage and I still
>feared being caught out, especially after that first night.  Norm

Same holds true with where I live. When I moved in the manager and
owners had the no-pet clause, but never enforced it unless the tenant
caused other problems. In fact, once when I took a trip the manager
came and fed LB and Sammy.

Then the complex sold, and the new owners started enforcing the no-pet
clause, which of course I had agreed to when I signed the rental
agreement. It's a long story, and which I told at the time it was
goining on, but they eventually relented and agreed to grandfather any
tenants who the old owners had unofficially allowed pets.
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Susan M - 04 Aug 2005 14:03 GMT
>> Jill - IIRC, Norm had the Siamese many years ago.  This is a blast
>> from the past.  They were beautiful cats as I remember from his
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> I still maintain, don't move anywhere that doesn't allow pets if you have
> pets.  Sneaking around will only result in trouble.

I agree with you about moving somewhere that doesn't allow pets - its a
terrible idea.  It seemed that you thought that Norm was currently in this
situation.  I just thought I'd point out that this was a long time ago and
he doesn't do this now.

You never know the circumstances that people have found themselves in before
though - maybe the cats were going to be euthanized at a shelter so he
grabbed them just in time and saved their lives?  Maybe it simply was not a
smart move?   Could be either scenario.

We found ourselves in an apartment that ostensibly didn't allow pets and we
had a cat.  What happened was that my friend was moving to Bermuda for two
years and her cat sitter fell through at the very last minute.  She asked if
we could take the cat for a few days until she got something else worked
out.  We asked the apartment manager and he made an exception for us.
Nothing else ever got worked out about the cat and we kept him, with full
disclosure to the apartment manager; however, we were always a bit on edge
because it wasn't officially allowed.  We were saving up to buy a house,
which we did a few months later, and everything worked out fine.  We didn't
set out to do a stupid thing - we were trying to help out.  The cat was a
stunning applehead Siamese called Cairo:
http://community.webshots.com/photo/8834368/8834462xhSvFrRMse  He ended up
going to his mom in Bermuda after we moved because he sprayed everywhere,
including in the oven fan.  He was happy both in Bermuda and his next home,
Singapore.  He's back in Calgary now and has no recollection of me at all it
seems.  We lavished love and attention on this cat for over a year AND HE
DOESN'T REMEMBER US!!  Ouch.

Susan M
Otis and Chester
Lesley - 04 Aug 2005 15:01 GMT
My mum almost found herself in the same position. My brother had to go
to New York for a couple of months prior to moving over there for good
and this left him with the problem of his cat Schroedinger. I couldn't
have him because of my two and my mum said she would take him in. She
was in the middle of buying a new flat and noticed that pets were not
allowed so she explained the situation to the agent and was told that
the reason they put a "no pets" clause in was to have some way to deal
with people who for example brought a large dog and left it locked in a
small flat all day or running wild but they did not have a problem with
an indoor cat

Officially my flat has a "no pets" policy but thus far the only comment
on our cats by anyone connected with the landlord has been "Awww! What
lovely eyes! Here kitty kitty" aimed at Redunzel. (Thankfully Sarrasine
went into hiding I don't know what they would have said if she'd done
one of her infamous a**e ambushes!)

Lesley

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Victor Martinez - 04 Aug 2005 21:59 GMT
> http://community.webshots.com/photo/8834368/8834462xhSvFrRMse  He ended up

Gorgeous kitty!

> going to his mom in Bermuda after we moved because he sprayed everywhere,
> including in the oven fan.  He was happy both in Bermuda and his next home,

You seem to have a knack for spraying kitties... :)

> Singapore.  He's back in Calgary now and has no recollection of me at all it
> seems.  We lavished love and attention on this cat for over a year AND HE
> DOESN'T REMEMBER US!!  Ouch.

Maybe he's just angry at you for sending him off to the tropics. :)

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Susan M - 04 Aug 2005 05:57 GMT
> Fortunately I found a great 2bdrm just blocks from work and after a hard
> day's move I was sound asleep but woken by a godawful sound.  Wondering
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> inside.  And I could see all the  apartments facing the atrium had their
> lights on!  First night!  No cats allowed.

Sounds pretty well to be expected for Siamese!  Glad it all worked out in
the end.  I really like hearing about all your cats, including the old
Siamese ... and I've wondered if the Siamese every had any other names?

Take care,

Susan M
Otis and Chester
Norm - 04 Aug 2005 11:36 GMT
> Sounds pretty well to be expected for Siamese!  Glad it all worked out in
> the end.  I really like hearing about all your cats, including the old
> Siamese ... and I've wondered if the Siamese every had any other names?

Well, as it happens, my friend who talked me into adopting them and
liberated them from the SPCA himself and brought them to me, named them
but I rarely used the names.  I'll explain circuitously.  A couple years
ago, when I was having therapy for a back inhury, I heard a Siamese from
an adjoining booth - my trainer verified that's what it was and did I
want to meet it.  Of course!  As I scritched the female (Siamese if you
please!) I explained that I'd had two Siamese and the elderly owner
asked if I had pictures.  I said I'd relay the photo  website address
and, as it happens, the next week I was there the therapist said she
loved the pictures but what was the cats' name.  After some
embarrassment I told her, Sux and Fux.  She loved it and so did the
Siamese's slave.  SO there's the whole story!  Norm  (my cats and I had
no problems, whenever I called I got both anyway.  It's only since then
I had a problem referring to them but everyone who knew them knew their
names anyway :-)

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Norm - 04 Aug 2005 11:48 GMT
> Sounds pretty well to be expected for Siamese!  

Does, doesn' it?  I came to learn...  and apreciate.  Remeind me about
the time the male fell off the outside A/C

> the end.  I really like hearing about all your cats, including the old

And, apologies.  I did start to thank you for the compliment and got
derailed into another anecdote, the names you know, heh.

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Enfilade - 05 Aug 2005 01:49 GMT
> A long time ago, when I got the Siamese they and I were delighted - me,
> because they were my first cats, and they came from a cage at the SPCA.
> But the landlord was less thrilled, in fact I was evicted.

I've always cleared my cats with landlords to avoid issues.  I'm
already nervous that old leases at my old place said "no pets" even
though teh city had since passed a by law saying it was illegal to
refuse to rent to people because they had pets--the company had not
changed the lease yet.  But since the landlord herself had cats...there
was never an issue.

I have, however, smuggled the cats into motels during our move across
country.  DP had it worse.  He had the BITTIES, age 6 weeks, with him.
I had Nox and Smokey.  Of course everyone in his hotel wanted to see
the kittens and there was a wedding party--they all wanted to see
bitties--and here he was freaking that the management would find out
and would make him take them out, which he couldn't do.  They were so
little, they depended on him to feed them and warm them all night.
Fortunately nothing was said.

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