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Re: Might Be OT:  Thanks for your time

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Watching - 29 Jul 2005 18:49 GMT
Adrian wrote:

Victor Martinez wrote:
>> Why, I'll be darned. I just got a copy of the headers of the abusive
>> emails and guess what? Whoever this is, they use the same remailer
>> Mary uses. Coincidence?

>Why am I not surprised?
>Adrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera)
>A house is not a home, without a cat.

Mary never used a remailer. She used
teranews and x-private.org, both regular,
by-subscription news servers.

You boys would do better to be sure
of what you're talking about before
you open your mouths.
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Victor Martinez - 29 Jul 2005 19:55 GMT
I make it a point to ignore people who hide their identity in usenet. :)

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Dan M - 29 Jul 2005 20:42 GMT
> I make it a point to ignore people who hide their identity in usenet. :)

That makes two of us.

Dan
sriddles@aol.com - 29 Jul 2005 20:50 GMT
> > I make it a point to ignore people who hide their identity in usenet. :)
>
> That makes two of us.
>
> Dan

Three. I understand the reasons some of us here don't use their real
names, so I don't mean them. It's the ones who have no posting history,
who make up a new name just to speak their minds that aren't worth
paying attention to. There's so many phony-name posts lately I usually
recognize them and skip over.

Sherry
Watching - 30 Jul 2005 01:28 GMT
> > > I make it a point to ignore people who hide their identity in usenet. :)
> >
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> paying attention to. There's so many phony-name posts lately I usually
> recognize them and skip over.

That's good.

Meanwhile, Mary still never did use a remailer.
She used two regular news servers that did not
show her IP--just as AOL does not show your ID.
So this means that you post from a remailer,
according to Victor.

You must be an anonymous troll.
Philip - 30 Jul 2005 02:18 GMT
>> > > I make it a point to ignore people who hide their identity in usenet.
>> > > :)
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> You must be an anonymous troll.

Then again ... maybe not.  It's a shame what some people get off on.
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"Illigitimus non tu carborundum !"

Watching - 30 Jul 2005 01:30 GMT
> > I make it a point to ignore people who hide their identity in usenet. :)
>
> That makes two of us.
>
> Dan

That certainly makes two of you with negligible
brainwave activity. I make it a point to ignore people who display
their deficient brainwave activity in Usenet. :)
Watching - 30 Jul 2005 01:25 GMT
> I make it a point to ignore people who hide their identity in usenet. :)

I noticed that. Good job.
jmcquown - 30 Jul 2005 02:15 GMT
>> I make it a point to ignore people who hide their identity in
>> usenet. :)
>
> I noticed that. Good job.

In defense of "Watching" - he/she suggested in a new thread Stacey take me
up on the offer to have my (U.S. Postal Inspector) friend try to help Stacey
trace the emails.  So while we don't know who "Watching" is, he/she didn't
appear to condone the behavior being feisted onto Stacey with regard to porn
links being sent to her children, etc.

Jill
Watching - 30 Jul 2005 03:42 GMT
> >> I make it a point to ignore people who hide their identity in
> >> usenet. :)
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> appear to condone the behavior being feisted onto Stacey with regard to porn
> links being sent to her children, etc.

I urge all of you to take any serious suspicions of illegal activity
to your local law enforcement cybercrimes division. They will know
how to proceed--across state lines, in the US, and internationally.

Posting in Usenet is one thing: sending email or US mail into
the home or workplace of an individual is a whole other issue,
and can be prosecuted. Law enforcement agencies may issue
subpoenas in that instance.

By the same token, posting in Usenet just to defame someone
is different from just "speaking one's mind." There are legal
criteria by which to determine intention. Mary's intention
was indeed to speak her mind. Her posting of full names
cannot be construed as anything illegal since both Dan
and Monica posted their full names willingly many times.

However, Jill is right. Far from being a fan of Mary, I made
complaints to both of her servers. (That is how I know
which ones she used to post.) I just want you to be careful.
There is more to this issue than meets the eye.

Mary is an irresponsible bitch. She is not, however, the
perpetrator of cyber crimes. One person who is posts to
both this and the health group and had been largely
absent for a while. This person may be traced via
telephone records.

All I am saying: you don't know something for sure,
don't announce it. Don't play into the hands of those
who wish you harm. Wait for the other "shoe to drop."
It will, and soon. I don't want it to drop on any of
you because you are gullible.
CatNipped - 30 Jul 2005 04:48 GMT
> > >> I make it a point to ignore people who hide their identity in
> > >> usenet. :)
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> It will, and soon. I don't want it to drop on any of
> you because you are gullible.

Do please let us know her name as soon as you can - I'm dying of suspense.
I can't wait to see if it is who I think it is!  ;>

Hugs,

CatNipped
Yowie - 31 Jul 2005 01:30 GMT
>> >> I make it a point to ignore people who hide their identity in
>> >> usenet. :)
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
> It will, and soon. I don't want it to drop on any of
> you because you are gullible.

It is the duty of anyone to report crime immediately. If you have any clues
as to who is perputrator, please do something NOW.  It doens't need to be
reported to this group, just make sure the children are safe.

Yowie

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