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CatNipped - 25 Jul 2005 20:47 GMT
OK, I had to take my bike in to be adjusted today and they wouldn't let me
even try it in the parking lot without borrowing a helmet.  Yes folks, I
didn't own a helmet before today <ducking>!  So DH was with me and said,
maybe you should buy a helmet to wear, so I did.  They said at the shop that
a helmet is only good for one crash and if you hit the helmet you have to
buy a new on.

So what does Ms. Klutz do?  Getting out of the truck I dropped the helmet
onto the cement driveway.

So do I have to buy a new helmet now?  It doesn't looked cracked (although
the visor did pop off and had to be reattached).

Hugs,

CatNipped
Adrian - 25 Jul 2005 20:57 GMT
> OK, I had to take my bike in to be adjusted today and they wouldn't
> let me even try it in the parking lot without borrowing a helmet.
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>
> CatNipped

Yes, have to buy a new helmet now, and be more careful.
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CatNipped - 25 Jul 2005 21:21 GMT
> > OK, I had to take my bike in to be adjusted today and they wouldn't
> > let me even try it in the parking lot without borrowing a helmet.
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>
> Yes, have to buy a new helmet now, and be more careful.

D*mn!  That was $50 wasted!

Hugs,

CatNipped
Victor Martinez - 25 Jul 2005 21:31 GMT
> Yes, have to buy a new helmet now, and be more careful.

Is that for real? Why are bike helmets so delicate?

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CatNipped - 25 Jul 2005 21:35 GMT
> > Yes, have to buy a new helmet now, and be more careful.
>
> Is that for real? Why are bike helmets so delicate?

They're made out of compressed styrofoam so that they're very light on your
head.  I don't know if that's why, but they did reiterate that if I ever hit
my head with it on I would need a new one.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Monique Y. Mudama - 26 Jul 2005 01:00 GMT
> They're made out of compressed styrofoam so that they're very light
> on your head.  I don't know if that's why, but they did reiterate
> that if I ever hit my head with it on I would need a new one.

If it makes you feel better, the same rule goes for motorcycle
helmets.  Mine is about $600.  I treat it with kid gloves.

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Jo Firey - 26 Jul 2005 03:06 GMT
>> They're made out of compressed styrofoam so that they're very light
>> on your head.  I don't know if that's why, but they did reiterate
>> that if I ever hit my head with it on I would need a new one.
>
> If it makes you feel better, the same rule goes for motorcycle
> helmets.  Mine is about $600.  I treat it with kid gloves.

So that explains why my former son in law carries his helmet around like its
made from cut crystal.

Jo
Steve Touchstone - 26 Jul 2005 08:34 GMT
>> They're made out of compressed styrofoam so that they're very light
>> on your head.  I don't know if that's why, but they did reiterate
>> that if I ever hit my head with it on I would need a new one.
>
>If it makes you feel better, the same rule goes for motorcycle
>helmets.  Mine is about $600.  I treat it with kid gloves.

yep, I was going to say this, but you beat me to it.
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wafflycat - 26 Jul 2005 08:40 GMT
>> Yes, have to buy a new helmet now, and be more careful.
>
> Is that for real? Why are bike helmets so delicate?

Because they are plastic foam with a very thin shell over the outer surface.
They are of use in low-level/ver low speed impacts and that is it. They have
to be well-ventilated as cycling produces a lot of heat, most of which
escapes via the bonce. They are of limited use.

Cheers, helen s
Hopitus - 26 Jul 2005 18:45 GMT
Bell ad for years on FL billboards:
If you've got a $10 head........buy a $10 helmet!

>>> Yes, have to buy a new helmet now, and be more careful.
>>
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>
> Cheers, helen s
Julie Cook - 26 Jul 2005 19:32 GMT
> Bell ad for years on FL billboards:
> If you've got a $10 head........buy a $10 helmet!

Rusty wears a Bell helmet in the race car. About 10 years ago, Rusty was
involved in an accident that began when someone moved over in front of
him and his front tire rode up on the other person's rear tire launching
him into the air.  I'm told (by the racers driving under him)that he
flipped in the air three times.  He then landed on the track upside down
and slid about 100 yards and when he reached the end of the pavement and
hit the grass he flipped end over end 4 times before coming to rest on a
tire wall.  He was fine, the car wasn't but when he slid upside down on
the pavement he scrapped the top of his helmet slightly.  We decided to
send it to Bell for testing before using it again.  They returned the
helmet saying that in xray (or however they check that) they didn't find
any cracks in the structure of the helmet however they did not recommend
that he use the helmet again.  They also included a very generous
monetary certificate toward the purchase of a new helmet.  We found that
impressive and have used Bell helmets ever since.
Julie
CatNipped - 26 Jul 2005 21:15 GMT
> > Bell ad for years on FL billboards:
> > If you've got a $10 head........buy a $10 helmet!
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> impressive and have used Bell helmets ever since.
> Julie

That's the kind I have and if I get in an accident with it I can send it in
and get another for just $35 S+H.

Hugs,

CatNipped
CatNipped - 25 Jul 2005 21:59 GMT
That you needed an instruction manual for a helmet???  *NINE* pages of
instructions on how to use your helmet!!!!

Hugs,

CatNipped

> OK, I had to take my bike in to be adjusted today and they wouldn't let me
> even try it in the parking lot without borrowing a helmet.  Yes folks, I
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>
> CatNipped
wafflycat - 26 Jul 2005 08:43 GMT
> That you needed an instruction manual for a helmet???  *NINE* pages of
> instructions on how to use your helmet!!!!
>
> Hugs,
>
> CatNipped

Unless ithe helmet is correctly positioned on the top of the head it does
not offer protection as designed. Too many people go around with them loose,
on back of head, askew to one side - which renders them effectively.. err..
petty much useless! Used properly they are a useful tool, but *not* the
primary aid to cycling safely that some would have cyclists believe.

Cheers, helen s
Jo Firey - 25 Jul 2005 23:31 GMT
> OK, I had to take my bike in to be adjusted today and they wouldn't let me
> even try it in the parking lot without borrowing a helmet.  Yes folks, I
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>
> CatNipped

I'd guess it depends on how far it dropped.  If parents had to replace kids
helmets every time they were dropped the planet would be overrun with broken
helmets.

So I'd use my own judgment as to how much of a shock it really took.

Jo
Dan M - 25 Jul 2005 23:38 GMT
> So do I have to buy a new helmet now?  It doesn't looked cracked (although
> the visor did pop off and had to be reattached).
>
> Hugs,
>
> CatNipped

I'm not exactly known for my grace and coordination, but I was heavily
into bicycling a few years back. I dropped my helmets a few times. I would
usually allow myself two or three drops before I felt compelled to buy
another one. I can't testify to how safe or unsafe that was, as I only had
one accident on the bike and didn't hit my head, but I couldn't justify to
myself spending that kind of money every time I was a klutz.

Dan
CatNipped - 25 Jul 2005 23:44 GMT
> > So do I have to buy a new helmet now?  It doesn't looked cracked (although
> > the visor did pop off and had to be reattached).
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>
> Dan

LOL!  Yeah, as klutzy as I am, I might go broke buying new bike helmets if
this keeps up!  ;>

Hugs,

CatNipped
Katrina - 26 Jul 2005 06:34 GMT
>> So do I have to buy a new helmet now?  It doesn't looked cracked (although
>> the visor did pop off and had to be reattached).
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> one accident on the bike and didn't hit my head, but I couldn't justify to
> myself spending that kind of money every time I was a klutz.

My husband isn't into biking, but he is into horses.  He came off one
time, backwards onto his head.   He got up, told everyone he was OK,
unsaddled the horse, put up the tack, got into his truck and started to
drive home. He got about halfway home when he suddenly realized that he
didn't know why he was on his way home from the barn... he had lost the
previous 2 hours.  He pulled over and called me to get him, since he
was in his barn clothes, and on the road home he figured he must have
hit his head and being a flight nurse (he works for an air ambulance
company on a helicopter crew), he knew that he should go to the
hospital and get checked out...  When we went back out to the barn
later to check on the horse, we found his helmet.  It had a crack
running from the back edge up to the very top... looked like a cracked
egg.

His old helmet is in the barn for all the riding students to see.  He's
religious about wearing his new helmet.

Katrina
wafflycat - 26 Jul 2005 08:44 GMT
> His old helmet is in the barn for all the riding students to see.  He's
> religious about wearing his new helmet.
>
> Katrina

And helemts for use when riding a horse are far more substantial helmets in
terms of build than cycle helmets.

Cheers, helen s
Monique Y. Mudama - 26 Jul 2005 00:59 GMT
> OK, I had to take my bike in to be adjusted today and they wouldn't
> let me even try it in the parking lot without borrowing a helmet.
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> So do I have to buy a new helmet now?  It doesn't looked cracked
> (although the visor did pop off and had to be reattached).

You didn't have a helmet?  Bad, bad, bad!

Well ... the reason for the one crash rule is that without fancy
equipment, you can't tell if the structural integrity has been
compromised.  Plastic cracking has nothing to do with it.

To be perfectly safe, you should get a new one, but would I do so?
I'd rather not answer that question.

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dopekitty - 26 Jul 2005 02:48 GMT
> OK, I had to take my bike in to be adjusted today and they wouldn't let me
> even try it in the parking lot without borrowing a helmet.  Yes folks, I
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>
> CatNipped

Here in Edmonton, a helmet is only *required* for those under sixteen
yrs of age.  Back home in Fredericton, NB, helmets are mandatory for
all..  Personally as an adult, i don't think i should be forced to wear
one.  It makes using headphones, wearing sun visors, etc... difficult
and i hate the sound the wind makes in the darn things.

Kristy
Monique Y. Mudama - 26 Jul 2005 03:55 GMT
> Here in Edmonton, a helmet is only *required* for those under
> sixteen yrs of age.  Back home in Fredericton, NB, helmets are
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>
> Kristy

Hey, I absolutely agree that adults should be allowed to endanger
themselves if that's what they want to do.  But as someone who doesn't
want to see you hurt, I still hope you'll choose to wear one.

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Trish - 26 Jul 2005 05:22 GMT
> OK, I had to take my bike in to be adjusted today and they wouldn't let me
> even try it in the parking lot without borrowing a helmet.  Yes folks, I
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>
> CatNipped

Does your warranty cover it, my helmet is covered by a warranty.  It's an
old helmet though.
wafflycat - 26 Jul 2005 08:38 GMT
> OK, I had to take my bike in to be adjusted today and they wouldn't let me
> even try it in the parking lot without borrowing a helmet.  Yes folks, I
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> a helmet is only good for one crash and if you hit the helmet you have to
> buy a new on.

I wear a helmet but am not under any illusion over the amount of protection
it gives. All they are effective in is stopping minor scrapes & bumps from
effectively a stationary or *very slow speed* impact. They are *not* the
Shield Of Invincibility that some would have you believe nor are they of any
use whatsoever should you bit hit by a vehicle at speed. Cycling is *not*
inherently dangerous. Should you choose to cycle without wearing one, you
will not be struck down by lightning for committing a cardinal sin ;-) Mine
is very useful in night cycling as I have a light mounted on it, which is
excellent for illuminating roadsigns and adding to my 'low-flying UFO'
effect which is most excellent at getting me noticed by motorists :-)
Helmets are a useful tool in the cyclists' toolkit of safe cycling, but of
more importance, IMO & experience, are a pair of gloves (fingerless mitts in
summer, full-fingered in winter) as they save your hands from nasty gravel
rash and have been of more direct benefit to me than my various helmets
(winter, summer & night time ones) and cycle training to make sure I have
skills for cycling as safe as possible in traffic.

> So what does Ms. Klutz do?  Getting out of the truck I dropped the helmet
> onto the cement driveway.
>
> So do I have to buy a new helmet now?  It doesn't looked cracked (although
> the visor did pop off and had to be reattached).

In theory, yes, you should. Which should be telling you the level of impact
they are designed to withstand ...

Cheers, helen s

> Hugs,
>
> CatNipped
 
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