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[OT - Biking] Stupid Question
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CatNipped - 25 Jul 2005 20:47 GMT OK, I had to take my bike in to be adjusted today and they wouldn't let me even try it in the parking lot without borrowing a helmet. Yes folks, I didn't own a helmet before today <ducking>! So DH was with me and said, maybe you should buy a helmet to wear, so I did. They said at the shop that a helmet is only good for one crash and if you hit the helmet you have to buy a new on.
So what does Ms. Klutz do? Getting out of the truck I dropped the helmet onto the cement driveway.
So do I have to buy a new helmet now? It doesn't looked cracked (although the visor did pop off and had to be reattached).
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CatNipped
Adrian - 25 Jul 2005 20:57 GMT > OK, I had to take my bike in to be adjusted today and they wouldn't > let me even try it in the parking lot without borrowing a helmet. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > CatNipped Yes, have to buy a new helmet now, and be more careful.
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CatNipped - 25 Jul 2005 21:21 GMT > > OK, I had to take my bike in to be adjusted today and they wouldn't > > let me even try it in the parking lot without borrowing a helmet. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Yes, have to buy a new helmet now, and be more careful. D*mn! That was $50 wasted!
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Victor Martinez - 25 Jul 2005 21:31 GMT > Yes, have to buy a new helmet now, and be more careful. Is that for real? Why are bike helmets so delicate?
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CatNipped - 25 Jul 2005 21:35 GMT > > Yes, have to buy a new helmet now, and be more careful. > > Is that for real? Why are bike helmets so delicate? They're made out of compressed styrofoam so that they're very light on your head. I don't know if that's why, but they did reiterate that if I ever hit my head with it on I would need a new one.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 26 Jul 2005 01:00 GMT > They're made out of compressed styrofoam so that they're very light > on your head. I don't know if that's why, but they did reiterate > that if I ever hit my head with it on I would need a new one. If it makes you feel better, the same rule goes for motorcycle helmets. Mine is about $600. I treat it with kid gloves.
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Jo Firey - 26 Jul 2005 03:06 GMT >> They're made out of compressed styrofoam so that they're very light >> on your head. I don't know if that's why, but they did reiterate >> that if I ever hit my head with it on I would need a new one. > > If it makes you feel better, the same rule goes for motorcycle > helmets. Mine is about $600. I treat it with kid gloves. So that explains why my former son in law carries his helmet around like its made from cut crystal.
Jo
Steve Touchstone - 26 Jul 2005 08:34 GMT >> They're made out of compressed styrofoam so that they're very light >> on your head. I don't know if that's why, but they did reiterate >> that if I ever hit my head with it on I would need a new one. > >If it makes you feel better, the same rule goes for motorcycle >helmets. Mine is about $600. I treat it with kid gloves. yep, I was going to say this, but you beat me to it.
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wafflycat - 26 Jul 2005 08:40 GMT >> Yes, have to buy a new helmet now, and be more careful. > > Is that for real? Why are bike helmets so delicate? Because they are plastic foam with a very thin shell over the outer surface. They are of use in low-level/ver low speed impacts and that is it. They have to be well-ventilated as cycling produces a lot of heat, most of which escapes via the bonce. They are of limited use.
Cheers, helen s
Hopitus - 26 Jul 2005 18:45 GMT Bell ad for years on FL billboards: If you've got a $10 head........buy a $10 helmet!
>>> Yes, have to buy a new helmet now, and be more careful. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Cheers, helen s Julie Cook - 26 Jul 2005 19:32 GMT > Bell ad for years on FL billboards: > If you've got a $10 head........buy a $10 helmet! Rusty wears a Bell helmet in the race car. About 10 years ago, Rusty was involved in an accident that began when someone moved over in front of him and his front tire rode up on the other person's rear tire launching him into the air. I'm told (by the racers driving under him)that he flipped in the air three times. He then landed on the track upside down and slid about 100 yards and when he reached the end of the pavement and hit the grass he flipped end over end 4 times before coming to rest on a tire wall. He was fine, the car wasn't but when he slid upside down on the pavement he scrapped the top of his helmet slightly. We decided to send it to Bell for testing before using it again. They returned the helmet saying that in xray (or however they check that) they didn't find any cracks in the structure of the helmet however they did not recommend that he use the helmet again. They also included a very generous monetary certificate toward the purchase of a new helmet. We found that impressive and have used Bell helmets ever since. Julie
CatNipped - 26 Jul 2005 21:15 GMT > > Bell ad for years on FL billboards: > > If you've got a $10 head........buy a $10 helmet! [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > impressive and have used Bell helmets ever since. > Julie That's the kind I have and if I get in an accident with it I can send it in and get another for just $35 S+H.
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CatNipped - 25 Jul 2005 21:59 GMT That you needed an instruction manual for a helmet??? *NINE* pages of instructions on how to use your helmet!!!!
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> OK, I had to take my bike in to be adjusted today and they wouldn't let me > even try it in the parking lot without borrowing a helmet. Yes folks, I [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > CatNipped wafflycat - 26 Jul 2005 08:43 GMT > That you needed an instruction manual for a helmet??? *NINE* pages of > instructions on how to use your helmet!!!! > > Hugs, > > CatNipped Unless ithe helmet is correctly positioned on the top of the head it does not offer protection as designed. Too many people go around with them loose, on back of head, askew to one side - which renders them effectively.. err.. petty much useless! Used properly they are a useful tool, but *not* the primary aid to cycling safely that some would have cyclists believe.
Cheers, helen s
Jo Firey - 25 Jul 2005 23:31 GMT > OK, I had to take my bike in to be adjusted today and they wouldn't let me > even try it in the parking lot without borrowing a helmet. Yes folks, I [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > CatNipped I'd guess it depends on how far it dropped. If parents had to replace kids helmets every time they were dropped the planet would be overrun with broken helmets.
So I'd use my own judgment as to how much of a shock it really took.
Jo
Dan M - 25 Jul 2005 23:38 GMT > So do I have to buy a new helmet now? It doesn't looked cracked (although > the visor did pop off and had to be reattached). > > Hugs, > > CatNipped I'm not exactly known for my grace and coordination, but I was heavily into bicycling a few years back. I dropped my helmets a few times. I would usually allow myself two or three drops before I felt compelled to buy another one. I can't testify to how safe or unsafe that was, as I only had one accident on the bike and didn't hit my head, but I couldn't justify to myself spending that kind of money every time I was a klutz.
Dan
CatNipped - 25 Jul 2005 23:44 GMT > > So do I have to buy a new helmet now? It doesn't looked cracked (although > > the visor did pop off and had to be reattached). [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Dan LOL! Yeah, as klutzy as I am, I might go broke buying new bike helmets if this keeps up! ;>
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Katrina - 26 Jul 2005 06:34 GMT >> So do I have to buy a new helmet now? It doesn't looked cracked (although >> the visor did pop off and had to be reattached). [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > one accident on the bike and didn't hit my head, but I couldn't justify to > myself spending that kind of money every time I was a klutz. My husband isn't into biking, but he is into horses. He came off one time, backwards onto his head. He got up, told everyone he was OK, unsaddled the horse, put up the tack, got into his truck and started to drive home. He got about halfway home when he suddenly realized that he didn't know why he was on his way home from the barn... he had lost the previous 2 hours. He pulled over and called me to get him, since he was in his barn clothes, and on the road home he figured he must have hit his head and being a flight nurse (he works for an air ambulance company on a helicopter crew), he knew that he should go to the hospital and get checked out... When we went back out to the barn later to check on the horse, we found his helmet. It had a crack running from the back edge up to the very top... looked like a cracked egg.
His old helmet is in the barn for all the riding students to see. He's religious about wearing his new helmet.
Katrina
wafflycat - 26 Jul 2005 08:44 GMT > His old helmet is in the barn for all the riding students to see. He's > religious about wearing his new helmet. > > Katrina And helemts for use when riding a horse are far more substantial helmets in terms of build than cycle helmets.
Cheers, helen s
Monique Y. Mudama - 26 Jul 2005 00:59 GMT > OK, I had to take my bike in to be adjusted today and they wouldn't > let me even try it in the parking lot without borrowing a helmet. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > So do I have to buy a new helmet now? It doesn't looked cracked > (although the visor did pop off and had to be reattached). You didn't have a helmet? Bad, bad, bad!
Well ... the reason for the one crash rule is that without fancy equipment, you can't tell if the structural integrity has been compromised. Plastic cracking has nothing to do with it.
To be perfectly safe, you should get a new one, but would I do so? I'd rather not answer that question.
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dopekitty - 26 Jul 2005 02:48 GMT > OK, I had to take my bike in to be adjusted today and they wouldn't let me > even try it in the parking lot without borrowing a helmet. Yes folks, I [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > CatNipped Here in Edmonton, a helmet is only *required* for those under sixteen yrs of age. Back home in Fredericton, NB, helmets are mandatory for all.. Personally as an adult, i don't think i should be forced to wear one. It makes using headphones, wearing sun visors, etc... difficult and i hate the sound the wind makes in the darn things.
Kristy
Monique Y. Mudama - 26 Jul 2005 03:55 GMT > Here in Edmonton, a helmet is only *required* for those under > sixteen yrs of age. Back home in Fredericton, NB, helmets are [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Kristy Hey, I absolutely agree that adults should be allowed to endanger themselves if that's what they want to do. But as someone who doesn't want to see you hurt, I still hope you'll choose to wear one.
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Trish - 26 Jul 2005 05:22 GMT > OK, I had to take my bike in to be adjusted today and they wouldn't let me > even try it in the parking lot without borrowing a helmet. Yes folks, I [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > CatNipped Does your warranty cover it, my helmet is covered by a warranty. It's an old helmet though.
wafflycat - 26 Jul 2005 08:38 GMT > OK, I had to take my bike in to be adjusted today and they wouldn't let me > even try it in the parking lot without borrowing a helmet. Yes folks, I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > a helmet is only good for one crash and if you hit the helmet you have to > buy a new on. I wear a helmet but am not under any illusion over the amount of protection it gives. All they are effective in is stopping minor scrapes & bumps from effectively a stationary or *very slow speed* impact. They are *not* the Shield Of Invincibility that some would have you believe nor are they of any use whatsoever should you bit hit by a vehicle at speed. Cycling is *not* inherently dangerous. Should you choose to cycle without wearing one, you will not be struck down by lightning for committing a cardinal sin ;-) Mine is very useful in night cycling as I have a light mounted on it, which is excellent for illuminating roadsigns and adding to my 'low-flying UFO' effect which is most excellent at getting me noticed by motorists :-) Helmets are a useful tool in the cyclists' toolkit of safe cycling, but of more importance, IMO & experience, are a pair of gloves (fingerless mitts in summer, full-fingered in winter) as they save your hands from nasty gravel rash and have been of more direct benefit to me than my various helmets (winter, summer & night time ones) and cycle training to make sure I have skills for cycling as safe as possible in traffic.
> So what does Ms. Klutz do? Getting out of the truck I dropped the helmet > onto the cement driveway. > > So do I have to buy a new helmet now? It doesn't looked cracked (although > the visor did pop off and had to be reattached). In theory, yes, you should. Which should be telling you the level of impact they are designed to withstand ...
Cheers, helen s
> Hugs, > > CatNipped
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