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Monique Y. Mudama - 22 Jul 2005 05:00 GMT My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, 7:30am Arizona time.
He doesn't like cats, but now's not the time to quibble.
He got a heart stress test on Wednesday. He didn't have any weird symptoms and wasn't sent by a doctor; he just thought it would be interesting. Well, they scheduled him for angioplasty Thursday morning. The prospect scared him quite a bit, and DH flew in to be with him.
The angioplasty revealed much more serious obstruction than was initially anticipated, so they've scheduled open heart surgery for tomorrow morning.
Scary as it is, we think he's quite lucky; if he hadn't decided to take this test, he most likely would have had a heart attack in the near future.
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Karen - 22 Jul 2005 05:06 GMT > My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, > 7:30am Arizona time. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > take this test, he most likely would have had a heart attack in the > near future. Wow. Scary. Ever since Pearl's diagnosis I've wondered if all people just shouldn't have heart tests done, no matter how they feel. Purrs. for FIL
Melissa Houle - 22 Jul 2005 05:59 GMT > My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, > 7:30am Arizona time. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca Smart man, and a lucky one. Thank goodness he took that test. Don't blame him for being anxious, open heart surgery is no joke. I hope he'll come through splendidly and recover quickly.
Melissa
wafflycat - 22 Jul 2005 06:26 GMT > My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, > 7:30am Arizona time. Here's hoping all turns out well.
helen s
mlbriggs - 22 Jul 2005 06:33 GMT >> My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, 7:30am >> Arizona time. >> > Here's hoping all turns out well. > > helen s Purring for FIL..Best wishes. MLB
jmcquown - 22 Jul 2005 07:03 GMT > My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, > 7:30am Arizona time. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > take this test, he most likely would have had a heart attack in the > near future. Purrs on the way. These days it's actually a pretty "simple" procedure. Scary, yes, but at least they caught it early.
Jill
Monique Y. Mudama - 22 Jul 2005 15:56 GMT > Purrs on the way. These days it's actually a pretty "simple" > procedure. Scary, yes, but at least they caught it early. Apparently in most cases they don't even stop the heart -- just work with it as is. Amazing stuff.
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Howard C. Berkowitz - 22 Jul 2005 17:22 GMT > > Purrs on the way. These days it's actually a pretty "simple" > > procedure. Scary, yes, but at least they caught it early. > > Apparently in most cases they don't even stop the heart -- just work > with it as is. Amazing stuff. "Minimally invasive" bypass, when they don't stop the heart, really does give a lower rate of complications, but can be used only when there is a lesser number of points to bypass, and they are relatively easy to reach. Given that they have angiograms (X-rays of the coronary arteries), they probably have a pretty good idea, but there are times the surgeon can't tell without actually looking.
I don't want to call it a "complication", but something that the doctors rarely mention, but that has been my own experience and that of many people I've known that have had the procedure, is that if they strip a vein from the leg to use in bypasses, the leg tends to hurt much longer than does the chest. It's something for which one should be prepared -- lots of people assume the chest will be worse.
Monique Y. Mudama - 22 Jul 2005 17:34 GMT > "Minimally invasive" bypass, when they don't stop the heart, really does > give a lower rate of complications, but can be used only when there is a > lesser number of points to bypass, and they are relatively easy to > reach. Given that they have angiograms (X-rays of the coronary > arteries), they probably have a pretty good idea, but there are times > the surgeon can't tell without actually looking. I don't know. I'm under the impression they're doing three bypasses, but of course I don't know *where* they are. The doctor apparently said something like 98% of patients don't need to have their heart stopped. He said he prefers not to because stopping the heart tends to cause short-term memory loss in the first few weeks. I don't recall, though, if it was the actual cardiac surgeon who said this or another doctor involved.
> I don't want to call it a "complication", but something that the doctors > rarely mention, but that has been my own experience and that of many > people I've known that have had the procedure, is that if they strip a > vein from the leg to use in bypasses, the leg tends to hurt much longer > than does the chest. It's something for which one should be prepared -- > lots of people assume the chest will be worse. Interesting. The doctor also said that they can typically make an incision at the top and bottom and pull it out, rather than having to cut all along the leg. Was yours the former or the latter?
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Howard C. Berkowitz - 22 Jul 2005 18:10 GMT > > "Minimally invasive" bypass, when they don't stop the heart, really > > does [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I don't know. I'm under the impression they're doing three bypasses, > but of course I don't know *where* they are. Don't be alarmed if they wind up doing more. In general, the original estimate is based on the number of arteries that need bypass. I had three occluded vessels, but wound up with four bypasses. It turned out that after they did the first bypass on the right coronary artery, they found a second downstream blockage and bypassed that.
The number of bypasses, with modern surgery, doesn't have much to do with the severity of the operation - just increases the time.
>The doctor apparently > said something like 98% of patients don't need to have their heart > stopped. He said he prefers not to because stopping the heart tends > to cause short-term memory loss in the first few weeks. I don't > recall, though, if it was the actual cardiac surgeon who said this or > another doctor involved. Short-term memory loss isn't common, but, realistically, going on external bypass increases the probability that there will be complications. In my case, some debris or a micro-clot went to my left ear and destroyed the auditory nerve, completing total deafness there.
I'm not trying to suggest that external bypass isn't safe and effective for the vast majority of patients - it is.
> > I don't want to call it a "complication", but something that the > > doctors [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > incision at the top and bottom and pull it out, rather than having to > cut all along the leg. Was yours the former or the latter? The latter. Adding to the problem, stripping the leg vein is often done not by the primary surgeon, but by an assistant who may not be as careful. Your doctor is describing what sounds reasonable, but is new.
Also, there's much more use made of the left internal mammary artery in the chest. It may increase postoperative discomfort to have had additional surgery in the chest, but arterial grafts are MUCH superior to venous grafts. Basically, arterial grafts won't reblock. There just isn't enough artery to do multiple bypasses.
jmcquown - 23 Jul 2005 03:08 GMT >>> Purrs on the way. These days it's actually a pretty "simple" >>> procedure. Scary, yes, but at least they caught it early. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > hurt much longer than does the chest. It's something for which one > should be prepared -- lots of people assume the chest will be worse. When John had his bypass they stripped the veins from his arms. I'd never heard of a surgeon doing that to for this procedure. It may have been responsible for him being able to get up and around very quickly afterwards.
He also said he was in much more discomfort for a lot longer after the surgery for diverticulitis than he ever was from his quadruple bypass.
Jill
Marina - 22 Jul 2005 07:08 GMT > My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, > 7:30am Arizona time. Purrs on their way for your FIL.
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Steve Touchstone - 22 Jul 2005 07:18 GMT >My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, >7:30am Arizona time. Purrs on the way
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Yoj - 22 Jul 2005 07:28 GMT > My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, > 7:30am Arizona time. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > take this test, he most likely would have had a heart attack in the > near future. Purrs are on their way. I've heard many, many stories of successful bypass surgery.
Joy
jmcquown - 22 Jul 2005 08:04 GMT >> My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, >> 7:30am Arizona time. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Joy Yep. My LLL had quadruple bypass surgery in January, 2004. 8 weeks later he was back out there working the art show circuit. I'm glad I'm able to help him sometimes since it's very strenuous physical work.
Jill
Monique Y. Mudama - 22 Jul 2005 15:56 GMT > Yep. My LLL had quadruple bypass surgery in January, 2004. 8 weeks > later he was back out there working the art show circuit. I'm glad > I'm able to help him sometimes since it's very strenuous physical > work. That's amazing. Gives me hope that DH's dad will come through with flying colors.
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Exocat - 22 Jul 2005 09:57 GMT > He doesn't like cats, but now's not the time to quibble. > > He got a heart stress test on Wednesday. Non-sectarian purrs for your FIL from the boys, who don't mind making a conversion.
Gordon & the TT(FF)
Enfilade - 22 Jul 2005 13:18 GMT > He doesn't like cats, but now's not the time to quibble. Smokey is pleased to purr for anyone who's got food. :)
Purrs.
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JBHajos - 22 Jul 2005 13:50 GMT >My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, >7:30am Arizona time. Many purrs are on their way. Hoping all turns out well.
Jeanne
CatNipped - 22 Jul 2005 14:30 GMT > My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, > 7:30am Arizona time. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > take this test, he most likely would have had a heart attack in the > near future. Wow, good thing he decided to do that! Purrs on the way that sugery goes well.
Hugs,
CatNipped
Nan - 22 Jul 2005 15:03 GMT >My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, >7:30am Arizona time. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >take this test, he most likely would have had a heart attack in the >near future. Mega purrs on the way for your FIL's surgery to go well with no unexpected complications.
Purrs and Hugs,
Nan
Howard C. Berkowitz - 22 Jul 2005 17:18 GMT > My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, > 7:30am Arizona time. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > take this test, he most likely would have had a heart attack in the > near future. Purrs and healing thoughts, from one who has been there, done that, and has the cardiac rehab T-shirt.
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 22 Jul 2005 18:05 GMT >My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, >7:30am Arizona time. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] >take this test, he most likely would have had a heart attack in the >near future. Purrs for all to be well for your FIL, Monique.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 22 Jul 2005 19:15 GMT > My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, > 7:30am Arizona time. Purrs have worked!
He just got out of surgery having had four bypasses. Apparently the operation went well.
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CatNipped - 22 Jul 2005 19:35 GMT > > My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, > > 7:30am Arizona time. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > He just got out of surgery having had four bypasses. Apparently the > operation went well. YAY! I'm *SO* glad it went well, what a relief!
Hugs,
CatNipped
JBHajos - 22 Jul 2005 20:33 GMT >Purrs have worked! Wonderful!! Purrs continuing that his recuperation time is short and he's back on his feet ASAP.
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Charleen Welton - 22 Jul 2005 22:25 GMT > >Purrs have worked! Good News!!! Charleen Mr. Pumpkin Aggie Marble Victor Velcro
Christine Burel - 22 Jul 2005 22:07 GMT Late coming to your thread, but many purrs for your FIL for a great recovery! Christine
> > My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, > > 7:30am Arizona time. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > He just got out of surgery having had four bypasses. Apparently the > operation went well. KaN - 23 Jul 2005 00:42 GMT "Monique Y. Mudama" <spam@bounceswoosh.org> wrote in message
> Purrs have worked! > > He just got out of surgery having had four bypasses. Apparently the > operation went well. Sending good wishes and purrs to your FIL for a complete recovery.
Susan M - 23 Jul 2005 03:25 GMT So glad to hear that!
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>> My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, >> 7:30am Arizona time. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > He just got out of surgery having had four bypasses. Apparently the > operation went well. Exocat - 23 Jul 2005 08:33 GMT > Purrs have worked! > He just got out of surgery having had four bypasses. Apparently the > operation went well. Delighted to hear it. Once he knows why it was so successful your FIL will change his view of furries??
Purrs for his swift continuing recovery
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polonca12000 - 23 Jul 2005 15:46 GMT I'm so glad all went so well. Lots of purrs and best wishes for him to heal well and recover completely,
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> > My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, > > 7:30am Arizona time. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > He just got out of surgery having had four bypasses. Apparently the > operation went well. Christina Websell - 22 Jul 2005 19:29 GMT Belated purrs coming over for your f i l. Sorry, I'm a bit behind..
Tweed
> My father in law is going in for bypass surgery tomorrow morning, > 7:30am Arizona time. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > take this test, he most likely would have had a heart attack in the > near future. Monique Y. Mudama - 22 Jul 2005 19:43 GMT > Belated purrs coming over for your f i l. Sorry, I'm a bit behind.. > > Tweed Please don't apologize. I am happy if people send some positive thoughts his way, but of course everyone is busy. I would never be upset because someone didn't have a chance to send purrs.
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