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W. Leong - 16 Jul 2005 16:21 GMT When I went and got prescription food for Rusty this morning, I found the price went up. With tax, it is over $40 Can. This is Hill's prescription canned cat food. A case of it won't even last a month. Wonder how long I can keep up. Rusty is already on a tight food ration. I may have to supplement with dry prescription food if they keep hiking the price.
The vet clinic is under rennovation. Even TED's cat Chico has to be confined in a cage because of all the construction. Good thing I don't need to board Rusty there. All the dust must not be good. It also means TED must be doing well with his practice. Wonder whether thats part of the reason the price of catfood went up. Should check the price of other vet clinics in town.
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Hopitus - 16 Jul 2005 17:57 GMT I don't think the food price hike has a thing to do w/your vet's overhead,construction expenses, nor profits. Recently I called my regular vet's office to reserve several bags of Hill's dry Rx food (received on Mondays there) and was informed they've completely dropped carrying Hill's food, canine or feline. I asked why and the answer was that Hill's has greatly increased its prices. Calls all over to vets near us got a tip to another section of town where Hill's still being sold. Upon arriving @ the distant vet's, I found they have abundant Hill's of all kinds. I ordered 2 10# bags as I don't like to be buying it frequently (and now driving a ways to get it). So....*it's Hill's* not your vet for our $ dismay.
> When I went and got prescription food for Rusty this morning, > I found the price went up. With tax, it is over $40 Can. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Wonder whether thats part of the reason the price of catfood went > up. Should check the price of other vet clinics in town. jmcquown - 17 Jul 2005 01:07 GMT > I don't think the food price hike has a thing to do w/your vet's > overhead,construction expenses, nor profits. Recently I called my regular [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 10# bags as I don't like to be buying it frequently (and now driving a ways > to get it). So....*it's Hill's* not your vet for our $ dismay. Oh dear, I should probably call and reserve more of Persia's Hill's x/d dry (for prevention of calcium oxalate crystals in her bladder) before they jack the price up. I'm finding it is still about the same price online but then I have to pay for shipping. I also wonder (given her being so "fluffy") if I should get some wet food for her or just stick with the crunchies. The vet has her down to a total of 1/2 c. dry food per day. She argues about that, of course. But she misses her weekly bit of canned food. Online it's $26.19/case but that doesn't count shipping. Maybe the vet can still get it for less.
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KaN - 16 Jul 2005 18:52 GMT I thought that said $40 a can...*lol* Nearly fell out of my chair!
I know what you mean.. Here in Florida the prices have been rising as well....and with 9 (soon to be 10) cats we feel even the smallest increases. My husband claims that they're eating better than we are!
W. Leong - 16 Jul 2005 19:48 GMT >I thought that said $40 a can...*lol* Nearly fell out of my chair! > > I know what you mean.. > Here in Florida the prices have been rising as well....and with 9 (soon to > be 10) cats we feel even the smallest increases. My husband claims that > they're eating better than we are! Adding insult to injury, unlike human food which is tax free, I have to pay 15% tax on cat food. At this rate, I may have to change to a cheaper cat litter. I am using Swheat Scoop which also had a price hike recently. Sigh! Seems everything is getting more expensive. I try to scrimp and save but still can't avoid all the taxes which are also going up. Up up and away ......
Winnie
Hopitus - 16 Jul 2005 20:12 GMT Our cats eat organic litter like Swheat Scoop, Littergreen, etc. (embarrassing but true) so if you don't mind having grains of grey-sand-looking litter on your bathroom (or wherever) floor near litterbox, try TidyCat Multiple Cat hard-clumping, in the big (heavy) 20# plastic thing. Many sales on this in supermarkets, Target, etc.
>>I thought that said $40 a can...*lol* Nearly fell out of my chair! >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Winnie Jo Firey - 16 Jul 2005 20:35 GMT > Our cats eat organic litter like Swheat Scoop, Littergreen, etc. > (embarrassing but true) so if you don't mind having grains of > grey-sand-looking litter on your bathroom (or wherever) floor near > litterbox, try TidyCat Multiple Cat hard-clumping, in the big (heavy) 20# > plastic thing. Many sales on this in supermarkets, Target, etc. I saw what was to me a new version of this at PetSmart. Same clumping Tidy Cat but advertised on label and "small area". Never did figure out small area of what?
Jo
W. Leong - 16 Jul 2005 22:08 GMT >> Our cats eat organic litter like Swheat Scoop, Littergreen, etc. >> (embarrassing but true) so if you don't mind having grains of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Jo I have to look for TidyCat. Don't think PetValue near my home carries it. There is no Target in Canada. Checked the Petsmart website. They only show a TidyCat crystals. Besides I need to 2-3 buses to go to Petsmart so not very practical. I will check Walmart.
Winnie
Duke of URL - 18 Jul 2005 02:33 GMT > When I went and got prescription food for Rusty this morning, > I found the price went up. With tax, it is over $40 Can. > This is Hill's prescription canned cat food. A case of it won't even > last a month. Wonder how long I can keep up. Rusty is already > on a tight food ration. I may have to supplement with dry prescription > food if they keep hiking the price. WHAT? You are paying *$40 per can* for *catfood*? You are either deranged or Michael Jackson in disguise. Er..
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W. Leong - 18 Jul 2005 03:34 GMT > When I went and got prescription food for Rusty this morning, > I found the price went up. With tax, it is over $40 Can. To clarify, it is $40 CAN (as in Canadian $) for a case of 24 cans. NOT $40 per can.
Winnie
> This is Hill's prescription canned cat food. A case of it won't even > last a month. Wonder how long I can keep up. Rusty is already [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Wonder whether thats part of the reason the price of catfood went > up. Should check the price of other vet clinics in town. Duke of URL - 19 Jul 2005 16:22 GMT >> When I went and got prescription food for Rusty this morning, >> I found the price went up. With tax, it is over $40 Can. > > To clarify, it is $40 CAN (as in Canadian $) for a case of 24 cans. > NOT $40 per can. Ah. That makes you appear to have better sense than the first version. May I suggest that, in future, you use a standard version, such as C$ or $CAN or CAN$. I was really thinking you were stupid; sorry.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 19 Jul 2005 16:46 GMT >>> When I went and got prescription food for Rusty this morning, I >>> found the price went up. With tax, it is over $40 Can. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > such as C$ or $CAN or CAN$. I was really thinking you were stupid; > sorry. I understood her. Normally I see it as CAN, but note that she didn't say "over $40 a can" or "over $40 per can"; she said "over $40 Can." You'd have to assume she missed a word, and also an extremely improbable price structure, to come up with the $40/can idea.
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Magic Mood Jeep© - 19 Jul 2005 16:57 GMT >>>> When I went and got prescription food for Rusty this morning, I >>>> found the price went up. With tax, it is over $40 Can. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca That, and the only way any cat food could cost $40 per can is if she fed her cat exclusively on Beluga Caviar ;)
Adrian - 20 Jul 2005 11:09 GMT >>>>> When I went and got prescription food for Rusty this morning, I >>>>> found the price went up. With tax, it is over $40 Can. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > That, and the only way any cat food could cost $40 per can is if she > fed her cat exclusively on Beluga Caviar ;) I remember my great aunt giving her cat some caviar, he turned his nose up and walked away. :-)
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Hopitus - 20 Jul 2005 14:59 GMT Heh....caviar of any price is an acquired taste and Beluga is a helluva lot more $ than $40 a can! I had an Iranian friend in FL from whom I could get some of the best in the world (Mediterranian) but here they're into eating (barf) buffalo meat and the locals turn up noses @ mention of caviar. Last Beluga I enjoyed was @ a "no-expense-spared", catered blowout wedding (not here). To each his/her own, I guess.....LOL.
>>>>>> When I went and got prescription food for Rusty this morning, I >>>>>> found the price went up. With tax, it is over $40 Can. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > I remember my great aunt giving her cat some caviar, he turned his nose > up and walked away. :-) Monique Y. Mudama - 20 Jul 2005 16:00 GMT > but here they're into eating (barf) buffalo meat and the locals turn > up noses @ mention of caviar. Have you *tried* buffalo? If you like beef, buffalo is good stuff. If you don't like beef, I could see how you wouldn't like buffalo either.
Eric made us buffalo burgers for the fourth -- yum, yum!
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Hopitus - 20 Jul 2005 17:31 GMT Thanks for asking....but I limit my beef consumption to about twice a month. My reluctance to sample buffalo is strangely enough based on a pic in my mind: a cow - placid, chewing cud, mild dark eyes looking @ me vs. a buffalo - twice size of cow, snorting, glaring @ me w/tiny, malevolent eyes peering through the stinking, body-covering hair reeking toward my nose. Have seen both in RL: cow on farms in FL, buffalo both loose in OK, and in Golden Gate Zoo in SF, CA. Can't get over it stomach-wise. I eat a lot of fish and chicken per docs orders.
>> but here they're into eating (barf) buffalo meat and the locals turn >> up noses @ mention of caviar. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Eric made us buffalo burgers for the fourth -- yum, yum! Monique Y. Mudama - 20 Jul 2005 17:40 GMT > Thanks for asking....but I limit my beef consumption to about twice a > month. My reluctance to sample buffalo is strangely enough based on a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > buffalo both loose in OK, and in Golden Gate Zoo in SF, CA. Can't get > over it stomach-wise. I eat a lot of fish and chicken per docs orders. Interesting. I can use a similar line of thought to justify eating buffalo. Cows are dumb -- dumb enough to pee and poop in the water they drink. Buffalo, being wilder, are smarter than that. Nuff said =)
[tease] I'm pretty sure the buffalo hair doesn't make it into the meat [/tease]
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Hopitus - 20 Jul 2005 20:13 GMT Of course you are right, Monique. Problem is, I first saw buffalos @ that zoo enclosure and I don't care how smart they are, I can't get that picture out of my mind. Call it a wierd hangup.
>> Thanks for asking....but I limit my beef consumption to about twice a >> month. My reluctance to sample buffalo is strangely enough based on a [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > [tease] I'm pretty sure the buffalo hair doesn't make it into the meat > [/tease] W. Leong - 20 Jul 2005 20:23 GMT >> but here they're into eating (barf) buffalo meat and the locals turn >> up noses @ mention of caviar. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Eric made us buffalo burgers for the fourth -- yum, yum! I tried buffalo once or twice. Tasted kind of like beef. Monique, are you in Colorado where buffalo is the mascot of one of the universities there?
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Monique Y. Mudama - 20 Jul 2005 21:07 GMT > I tried buffalo once or twice. Tasted kind of like beef. Monique, > are you in Colorado where buffalo is the mascot of one of the > universities there? Yup!
When you're driving up to Wyoming, there's a big cutout of a buffalo on top of a hill. Don't know what that's about.
Around here buffalo is used for pretty much anything cow beef normally would be -- burgers, steaks, that nasty raw stuff ...
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Christina Websell - 20 Jul 2005 23:09 GMT >> but here they're into eating (barf) buffalo meat and the locals turn >> up noses @ mention of caviar. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Eric made us buffalo burgers for the fourth -- yum, yum! I like beef. At our local farmer's market I tried a "bisonburger" Have you ever eaten what we used to call "beast's heart?" My grandmother used to cook it for us sometimes. The bisonburger tasted like that, very very strong and I didn't like it. Maybe buffalo tastes different from bison, although I thought they were the same animal.
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Duke of URL - 21 Jul 2005 23:06 GMT >>> but here they're into eating (barf) buffalo meat and the locals turn >>> up noses @ mention of caviar. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Maybe buffalo tastes different from bison, although I thought they > were the same animal. bi·son ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bsn, -zn) n. pl. bison A bovine mammal (Bison bison) of western North America, having large forequarters, a shaggy mane, and a massive head with short curved horns; a buffalo. An animal (B. bonasus) of Europe, similar to but somewhat smaller than the bison; a wisent. [Latin bisn, of Germanic origin; akin to Old High German wisunt.]
buf·fa·lo ( P ) Pronunciation Key (bf-l) n. pl. buffalo or buf·fa·loes or buf·fa·los Any of several oxlike Old World mammals of the family Bovidae, such as the water buffalo and African buffalo. The North American bison, Bison bison. The buffalo fish. tr.v. buf·fa·loed, buf·fa·lo·ing, buf·fa·loes To intimidate, as by a display of confidence or authority: “The board couldn't buffalo the federal courts as it had the Comptroller” (American Banker). To deceive; hoodwink: “Too often... job seekers have buffaloed lenders as to their competency and training” (H. Jane Lehman). To confuse; bewilder. [Italian bufalo, or Portuguese or Spanish búfalo from Late Latin bfalus, from Latin bbalus, antelope, buffalo, from Greek boubalos, perhaps from bous, cow. See gwou- in Indo-European Roots.] Word History: The buffalo is so closely associated with the Wild West that one might assume that its name comes from a Native American word, as is the case with the words moose and skunk. In fact, however, buffalo can probably be traced back by way of one or more of the Romance languages through Late and Classical Latin and ultimately to the Greek word boubalos, meaning “an antelope or a buffalo.” The buffalo referred to by the Greek and Latin words was of course not the American one but an Old World mammal, such as the water buffalo of southern Asia. Applied to the North American mammal, buffalo is a misnomer, bison being the preferred term. As far as everyday usage is concerned, however, buffalo, first recorded for the American mammal in 1635, is older than bison, first recorded in 1774.
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Christina Websell - 22 Jul 2005 01:52 GMT >>>> but here they're into eating (barf) buffalo meat and the locals turn >>>> up noses @ mention of caviar. [quoted text clipped - 49 lines] > recorded for the American mammal in 1635, is older than bison, first > recorded in 1774. Thanks for that insight, Duke. It didn't make the bisonburger taste any better. Blehh. It was horrible even with fried onions in a cob (round bread crusty roll) Yuk.
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Duke of URL - 23 Jul 2005 16:02 GMT > Thanks for that insight, Duke. It didn't make the bisonburger taste > any better. Blehh. It was horrible even with fried onions in a cob > (round bread crusty roll) Yuk. Well, just hard-freeze it and UPS it right over to me - I *love* the stuff.
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Skywriteing - 01 Aug 2005 21:59 GMT Bison can be overcooked by new cooks. When cooked correctly you will think you are eating New York Strip rather than Bison. American Bison is what we eat in the states, but we call it Buffalo out of habit. Its a very tastey, healthy, meat. It's not like the "Water Buffalo" of other countries. Chuck USBison.com
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 01 Aug 2005 23:40 GMT > Bison can be overcooked by new cooks. When cooked correctly you will > think you are eating New York Strip rather than Bison. American Bison [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Chuck > USBison.com Well, it could taste "gamey", I've had buffalo that was to die for, and then I've had gamey buffalo (ewwww). I've heard that soaking it in milk before (several hours at least) cooking gets rid of that gamey flavor. Milk works on venison, moose, and elk as well.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 22 Jul 2005 20:16 GMT > I like beef. At our local farmer's market I tried a "bisonburger" > Have you ever eaten what we used to call "beast's heart?" My > grandmother used to cook it for us sometimes. The bisonburger > tasted like that, very very strong and I didn't like it. Maybe > buffalo tastes different from bison, although I thought they were > the same animal. Hrm. I don't know if this is the same. I suspect the buffalo I've eaten has been raised in captivity, even if they have a lot of room to range, so maybe it's not as gamey?
The buffalo I've eaten so far has simply tasted like really good beef.
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Jo Firey - 22 Jul 2005 20:58 GMT >> I like beef. At our local farmer's market I tried a "bisonburger" >> Have you ever eaten what we used to call "beast's heart?" My [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > The buffalo I've eaten so far has simply tasted like really good beef. Sounds good. The moose we had in Alaska made the best hamburgers I've ever eaten.
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Duke of URL - 20 Jul 2005 18:34 GMT > Heh....caviar of any price is an acquired taste and Beluga is a > helluva lot more $ than $40 a can! I had an Iranian friend in FL from > whom I could get some of the best in the world (Mediterranian) but > here they're into eating (barf) buffalo meat and the locals turn up > noses @ mention of caviar. Good for them - the only thing fisheggs are good for is bait. BTW, are you referring to American Bison when you say "buffalo"? If so, and if you really don't appreciate it ... ahem ... my UPS delivery address is available - I'll take all you have off your hands. Yum.
Hopitus - 20 Jul 2005 20:16 GMT Dude if there are any buffalos or Bison in south FL I never saw 'em. OTOH they're all over this state..AFAIK all you gotta do is come out here and capture them. You can have my share of them as well. Frankly I dunno a buffalo from a bison (American or other nationality). Bet they *all* smell bad.
>> Heh....caviar of any price is an acquired taste and Beluga is a >> helluva lot more $ than $40 a can! I had an Iranian friend in FL from [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and if you really don't appreciate it ... ahem ... my UPS delivery address > is available - I'll take all you have off your hands. Yum. Wayne Mitchell - 21 Jul 2005 02:36 GMT >Frankly I dunno a buffalo from a bison (American or other nationality). In the past half century or so there has been an effort in scientific usage to separate the two names, using "bison" for the northern, shaggy species, and "buffalo" for the southern species. The lexicographers have begun to go along with it. My Webster's now denigrates "buffalo" as a "popular, but unscientific" word for the American bison -- to which I say, "Pfffft". Etymologically, the names are equal, both meaning "wild ox" and applying to any wild bovine species.
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Hopitus - 21 Jul 2005 04:19 GMT So now you're telling me these people are raving about and wanting me to try oxburgers? Hah. I knew they weren't just hairy, smelly cows. The wild ones must be cousins of the bald ones pulling rice paddy plows in far East. That kind has big horns, too.
>>Frankly I dunno a buffalo from a bison (American or other nationality). > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > "Pfffft". Etymologically, the names are equal, both meaning > "wild ox" and applying to any wild bovine species. Duke of URL - 21 Jul 2005 23:02 GMT > Dude if there are any buffalos or Bison in south FL I never saw 'em. > OTOH they're all over this state..AFAIK all you gotta do is come out > here and capture them. You can have my share of them as well. > Frankly I dunno a buffalo from a bison (American or other > nationality). Bet they *all* smell bad. Yabbut they taste EVER soooo GOOD!
Duke of URL - 20 Jul 2005 02:58 GMT >>>> When I went and got prescription food for Rusty this morning, I >>>> found the price went up. With tax, it is over $40 Can. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > You'd have to assume she missed a word, and also an extremely > improbable price structure, to come up with the $40/can idea. [a] small typos frquently occur in here, so a missing "a" is not surprising. [b] with no clue to where she is buying the stuff, I presumed she was in some disgustingly-overpriced locale, such as Frisco or New York.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 20 Jul 2005 04:08 GMT > [a] small typos frquently occur in here, so a missing "a" is not surprising. > [b] with no clue to where she is buying the stuff, I presumed she was in > some disgustingly-overpriced locale, such as Frisco or New York. Oh. I guess that by implication, then, someone living in a place like that is inherently stupid.
Look, whatever, but it sure seems like you were being rude to Winnie, and she certainly doesn't deserve it. If you read some of her past posts, you'll find that
[a] she lives in canada
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[b] she's not in a position to pay for disgustingly overpriced cat food. She struggles to pay for Rusty's prescription food.
So if I seem snarky, it's because it looks like you were being snarky at a sweet person who in no way deserves it.
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Duke of URL - 20 Jul 2005 18:31 GMT >> [a] small typos frquently occur in here, so a missing "a" is not >> surprising. [b] with no clue to where she is buying the stuff, I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Oh. I guess that by implication, then, someone living in a place like > that is inherently stupid. Um, yes. Living in rat-warrens when you don't have to IS stupid.
> Look, whatever, but it sure seems like you were being rude to Winnie, > and she certainly doesn't deserve it. ...
> at a sweet person who in no way deserves it. If she felt insulted, I'm sure she'd've posted so. There was no snarkiness. I was seriously responding to what was posted. What was presented was a story (via typographical error) of spending $40 per can for catfood. There ARE people who would do that - just read about the money wasted on movie actor/actresses's pets. I'm glad to see, after corrections, that she is in no way that foolish.
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