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Mary - 14 Jul 2005 08:57 GMT
Thanks to the brilliant person who pointed this out.

I had to think about it for a little while before I realized that you are
absolutely right.

Who must be the Queen of Cat Rescue?

Who is known for her venomous posts and nasty telephone calls?

Who has been livid because there are "too many posts"
in the groups for her webtv unit to handle?

LOL! It is perfect.

Kudos to you, old girl, you effectively derailed the project to help this
poor cat.

The sad thing is, the only one that has really suffered is Conan.

You might as well add this to the long list of things you have done that
will most certainly come back and cause you misery.

That's the way it works, you know.

:)
Alison - 14 Jul 2005 09:22 GMT
> Thanks to the brilliant person who pointed this out.
>
> I had to think about it for a little while before I realized that you are
> absolutely right.
>
> Who must be the Queen of Cat Rescue?

 What's your favourite TV programme . There are so many good
programmes out there its hard to choose. I enjoy watching the comedies
, I really miss Friends:( , and  detective and law  programmes such as
CSI though *not* when I'm eating my dinner <G>
Alison
Howard C. Berkowitz - 14 Jul 2005 13:52 GMT
> > Thanks to the brilliant person who pointed this out.
> >
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> CSI though *not* when I'm eating my dinner <G>
>  Alison

I'm having this odd image of recasting TV shows with cats in the lead
roles. Mr. Clark, who is feeling guilty about pressing the STOP button
on the fax a minute ago, really does have the unpressed look (outside
the courtroom), and the concentration on Doing The Right Thing, of Sam
Watteron on Law & Order.

They usually spend half a season figuring out the role of his cute
assistant, so Rhonda would qualify. Incidentally, does anyone understand
why Elizabeth Roehm's character, as she was being fired, asked "does
this have anything to do with my being a lesbian?"  Her sexuality,
AFAIK, had never been mentioned in any show.
Kreisleriana - 14 Jul 2005 14:23 GMT
>> > Thanks to the brilliant person who pointed this out.
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>this have anything to do with my being a lesbian?"  Her sexuality,
>AFAIK, had never been mentioned in any show.

Because they hardly ever mention anything about the characters'
personal lives, they sometimes like to release a bombshell, often as
the character is bowing out.  For example, when Jill Hennessey's
character was killed off, you discover that she and Jack had been
having an affair,  also never mentioned or alluded to in the show.

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Howard C. Berkowitz - 14 Jul 2005 14:37 GMT
> >> > Thanks to the brilliant person who pointed this out.
> >> >
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
> character was killed off, you discover that she and Jack had been
> having an affair,  also never mentioned or alluded to in the show.

I missed that one.

Still, casting cats is an interesting challenge. Clifford (RB) might
have tried out for the current Detective Fontana role, having a
perfectly cut catsuit and the potential of being intimidating.  Mind
you, he once met the neighborhood roaming intact tomcat, and drew his 16
pounds of muscle into hissing threat. Charlie, the 8 pound or so tomcat,
looked at him and said "Yes, eunuch?"  Clifford ran into the house and
dived under the couch.
sriddles@aol.com - 14 Jul 2005 16:05 GMT
> Still, casting cats is an interesting challenge. Clifford (RB) might
> have tried out for the current Detective Fontana role, having a
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> looked at him and said "Yes, eunuch?"  Clifford ran into the house and
> dived under the couch.

Doesn't everyone have a cat who would cast perfectly into one of the
characters on the musical CATS? I've had several.
Celmore was Mistoffoles reincarnated.
Cherokee was a dead ringer, in personality *and* looks, to Bustopher
Jones.
Biskit is Grizabella the Glamor Cat, because of the way the other cats
still shun her and the way she used to look.
Frank and Boots are the pair that are always into mischief together, I
can't remember their names!

Sherry
Howard C. Berkowitz - 14 Jul 2005 16:25 GMT
> > Still, casting cats is an interesting challenge. Clifford (RB) might
> > have tried out for the current Detective Fontana role, having a
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> Cherokee was a dead ringer, in personality *and* looks, to Bustopher
> Jones.

Mr. Clark is hard to place -- one of the more portly and established
cats. Bustopher, Old Deuteronomy, Asparagus, or the Railway Cat.

> Biskit is Grizabella the Glamor Cat, because of the way the other cats
> still shun her and the way she used to look.

Rhonda would be Grizabella in her youth, but not unduly hardened.

> Frank and Boots are the pair that are always into mischief together, I
> can't remember their names!

I have no idea of the spelling,but I remember them as Unkajerry and
Rumpleteaser.

I'm not sure where I'd cast Ding, the Philosopher Cat. He is very
athletic.
Alison - 14 Jul 2005 20:21 GMT
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> > Because they hardly ever mention anything about the characters'
> personal lives, they sometimes like to release a bombshell, often as
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> Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
> My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

I can't remember which character she was . she the one with long dark
hair? I didn't know they killed her off:( how did she die?
Alison
Kreisleriana - 14 Jul 2005 23:08 GMT
>news:fnpcd19u0oiaokescljbubaau1vkgdtibd@4ax.com...
>> > Because they hardly ever mention anything about the characters'
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>hair? I didn't know they killed her off:( how did she die?
> Alison

By far, the best of the female assistants. Her character's name was
Claire.  She had long dark hair, but so did Angie Harmon, and so does
the present woman.

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Howard C. Berkowitz - 14 Jul 2005 23:43 GMT
> >news:fnpcd19u0oiaokescljbubaau1vkgdtibd@4ax.com...
> >> > Because they hardly ever mention anything about the characters'
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> Claire.  She had long dark hair, but so did Angie Harmon, and so does
> the present woman.

I don't think I was watching then. Of course, I was watching Leno when
Angie Harmon's fiance proposed live, so I know more than one reason she
left.
W. Leong - 15 Jul 2005 03:13 GMT
>> >news:fnpcd19u0oiaokescljbubaau1vkgdtibd@4ax.com...
>> >> > Because they hardly ever mention anything about the characters'
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Angie Harmon's fiance proposed live, so I know more than one reason she
> left.

I like Jill Hennessy who played Claire. I like Claire better than
Jordan the medical examiner she plays in Crossing Jordan.
Also like Ross who replaced Claire, played by Carey Lowell.
She is very pretty.

Winnie
Alison - 14 Jul 2005 20:18 GMT
> I'm having this odd image of recasting TV shows with cats in the lead
> roles. Mr. Clark, who is feeling guilty about pressing the STOP button
> on the fax a minute ago, really does have the unpressed look (outside
> the courtroom), and the concentration on Doing The Right Thing, of Sam
> Watteron on Law & Order.>>

LOL I can just picture him.  This programme is usually shown late at
night so I don't watch it as much as I would like to.
    Alison
SuzQ - 17 Jul 2005 12:37 GMT
Howard B said:

They usually spend half a season figuring out the role of his cute
assistant, so Rhonda would qualify. Incidentally, does anyone understand
why Elizabeth Roehm's character, as she was being fired, asked "does
this have anything to do with my being a lesbian?"  Her sexuality,
AFAIK, had never been mentioned in any show.
============================================
I took it that the writers/creater didn't know how to write her out. I
agree there were no indication she was gay.
Suz
sriddles@aol.com - 14 Jul 2005 15:56 GMT
>   What's your favourite TV programme . There are so many good
> programmes out there its hard to choose. I enjoy watching the comedies
> , I really miss Friends:( , and  detective and law  programmes such as
> CSI though *not* when I'm eating my dinner <G>
>  Alison

Speaking of CSI. There are so many of that type of show now! I got
excused from jury duty. I got up there and the DA asked me 2 questions.
1) If your child told you he was attacked by a bear, would you believe
him, and why or why not.
2. Do you watch CSI.

I said no, I wouldn't believe him because there are no bears on the
plains of Oklahoma. And then I told him I used to watch CSI but it got
too graphic and I don't watch it anymore.

Guess those were the wrong answers, 'cause the next thing I knew was
"Juror 97, you are excused."

Sherry
Christina Websell - 14 Jul 2005 17:44 GMT
>>   What's your favourite TV programme . There are so many good
>> programmes out there its hard to choose. I enjoy watching the comedies
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Sherry

I would guess you were excused after question one, anyway.  The reason being
that you failed to look at all the possibilities why his statement might be
true.  For example, what if a bear was being transported say, from one zoo
to another, or there was a travelling circus or something such as that, and
a bear escaped from it's travelling container?
I can't say much about the CSI question as I don't really know what it is.
Is it a TV programme about court cases?  I'm just guessing here.  If it is
and you said it was too graphic for you..you'd be excused on that too.  In
case what you were going to hear was graphic and you were unable to cope
with it.

Tweed
Adrian - 14 Jul 2005 17:45 GMT
>>>   What's your favourite TV programme . There are so many good
>>> programmes out there its hard to choose. I enjoy watching the
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>
> Tweed

I take it you don't watch much telly. If you're curious it's on channel
five tommorow at 9pm.
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A house is not a home, without a cat.

Christina Websell - 14 Jul 2005 18:02 GMT
>>>>   What's your favourite TV programme . There are so many good
>>>> programmes out there its hard to choose. I enjoy watching the
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
> I take it you don't watch much telly. If you're curious it's on channel
> five tommorow at 9pm.

You're right, I hardly watch the telly at all.  I've even been thinking of
getting rid of it, except I do like to watch the wildlife programmes and
some documentaries,

Tweed
Kreisleriana - 14 Jul 2005 18:31 GMT
(snip)

>You're right, I hardly watch the telly at all.  I've even been thinking of
>getting rid of it, except I do like to watch the wildlife programmes and
>some documentaries,

Stinky likes to watch those too, especially ones with lizards, ;)

Theresa
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My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Christina Websell - 14 Jul 2005 18:42 GMT
> (snip)
>>
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>
> Stinky likes to watch those too, especially ones with lizards, ;)

My whippet Daisy (RB) was fascinated by bears (polar, brown, grizzly, any
really) on the telly and would sit glued to the screen while they were on,
her head going backwards and forwards and up and down whenever they moved.
Occasionally she would say a little yip..  That is, until she discovered
wolves were also on TV.

Tweed
sriddles@aol.com - 14 Jul 2005 19:40 GMT
> > I take it you don't watch much telly. If you're curious it's on channel
> > five tommorow at 9pm.
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>
> Tweed

Just a bit of warning, Christina, if you do decide to tune in. It shows
very graphic stuff, lots of blood, wounds, autopsy stuff. It's not just
that it *shows* those things, but something about the *way* they show
it that is very disturbing. It's like, suddenly splashed on the screen.
My brain doesn't have time to prepare, it's just there. SPLASH!! Grody
stuff.
It's very interesting stuff, really, presented in a factual way.
Although I'm not entirely sure it's all completely true stuff.  I used
to like it but it kind of makes me sick sometimes. Don't watch it while
you're eating for sure.

Sherry
wafflycat - 14 Jul 2005 21:29 GMT
> Just a bit of warning, Christina, if you do decide to tune in. It shows
> very graphic stuff, lots of blood, wounds, autopsy stuff. It's not just
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>
> Sherry

LOL - The time it's on over here in Old Blighty, The Unfit Family are often
having an evening meal at that time, and as we all like CSI, we'll eat as we
watch it... We have stronger stomachs than you it seems ;-)

Cheers, helen s
Howard C. Berkowitz - 14 Jul 2005 21:47 GMT
> > > I take it you don't watch much telly. If you're curious it's on
> > > channel
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> to like it but it kind of makes me sick sometimes. Don't watch it while
> you're eating for sure.

Let's put it this way -- a real autopsy may be bloodier, but it is so
systematic, especially if someone is mentoring you the first few times,
it tends not to be shocking. Of course, TV doesn't have a smell
attachment, which is probably just as well.
Christina Websell - 14 Jul 2005 22:07 GMT
>> > > I take it you don't watch much telly. If you're curious it's on
>> > > channel
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> it tends not to be shocking. Of course, TV doesn't have a smell
> attachment, which is probably just as well.

I'm not very squeamish.  I have skinned and gutted rabbits, plucked and
cleaned chickens, and pheasants (lucky roadkills) and ducks etc.
I do not like the smell of gutting.  I guess that's the smell you are
talking about, yes?

Tweed
Howard C. Berkowitz - 14 Jul 2005 22:09 GMT
> >> > > I take it you don't watch much telly. If you're curious it's on
> >> > > channel
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> I do not like the smell of gutting.  I guess that's the smell you are
> talking about, yes?

Pretty much that -- it's amazingly sudden. I've never attended an
autopsy where the guest of honor had not been properly refrigerated.

I have, however, smelled certain bacterial infections in patients, and
in the lab culture. If you can avoid Clostidium welchii, endeavor to do
so.
sriddles@aol.com - 14 Jul 2005 22:29 GMT
> Pretty much that -- it's amazingly sudden. I've never attended an
> autopsy where the guest of honor had not been properly refrigerated.
>
> I have, however, smelled certain bacterial infections in patients, and
> in the lab culture. If you can avoid Clostidium welchii, endeavor to do
> so.

High Five, RPCA.
Don't know if anyone noticed, but this thread was successfully hijacked
to TV programs, to CATS, to molesters, to autopsies, and now how yukky
bad your insides smell. Still an improvement, though!!
Let's see how far the next one goes.

Sherry
Christina Websell - 14 Jul 2005 22:45 GMT
>> Pretty much that -- it's amazingly sudden. I've never attended an
>> autopsy where the guest of honor had not been properly refrigerated.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Sherry

ROFL!  Seems just like normal thread drift here to me ;-)

Tweed <---giggling
Nomen Nescio - 15 Jul 2005 07:50 GMT
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From: sriddles@aol.com

>High Five, RPCA.
>Don't know if anyone noticed, but this thread was successfully hijacked

There seems to be quite a bit of hijacking going on in this
group. Is Dan M the student or the teacher?
Kreisleriana - 15 Jul 2005 14:18 GMT
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>
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>There seems to be quite a bit of hijacking going on in this
>group. Is Dan M the student or the teacher?

Hijacking?  We tend to enjoy meandering threads here.  The troll
activity is easily distinguished from that.

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Adrian - 15 Jul 2005 14:17 GMT
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> Hijacking?  We tend to enjoy meandering threads here.  The troll
> activity is easily distinguished from that.

I don't think anyone has mentioned cycling on this thread yet. ;-) I
wonder how long we can keep it going and how many times it will drift.
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A house is not a home, without a cat.

Karen - 15 Jul 2005 15:08 GMT
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> I don't think anyone has mentioned cycling on this thread yet. ;-) I
> wonder how long we can keep it going and how many times it will drift.
Does Lance still have the yellow jersey?
Adrian - 15 Jul 2005 15:23 GMT
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>>
> Does Lance still have the yellow jersey?

He was still leading at the end of stage 12.
sriddles@aol.com - 15 Jul 2005 15:57 GMT
> > >> From: sriddles@aol.com
> > >>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> >
> Does Lance still have the yellow jersey?

Does this mean we get to talk about cyclists' butts again? Does anyone
have any more visual aids? (only for the educational value, of course)
Sherry
Hopitus - 15 Jul 2005 16:02 GMT
Never mind his jersey or his butt...is he still going w/Sheryl Crow, or is
that "so last month" stuff?

>> > >> From: sriddles@aol.com
>> > >>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> have any more visual aids? (only for the educational value, of course)
> Sherry
Mary - 15 Jul 2005 18:32 GMT
> > > >> From: sriddles@aol.com
> > > >>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> have any more visual aids? (only for the educational value, of course)
> Sherry

I prefer swimmer's butts. I don't have any links, though. :)
CatNipped - 15 Jul 2005 19:14 GMT
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> I don't think anyone has mentioned cycling on this thread yet. ;-) I
> wonder how long we can keep it going and how many times it will drift.

ACK!  First we've had a two month long drought here in Houston - now it
won't quit raining and we're getting flooding.  AND I CAN'T GO BIKING -
ARGH, I'm having endorphin withdrawals!!!!

Hugs,

CatNipped
Victor Martinez - 15 Jul 2005 22:37 GMT
> ACK!  First we've had a two month long drought here in Houston - now it
> won't quit raining and we're getting flooding.  AND I CAN'T GO BIKING -

Yeap, that's how it goes in Texas, from famine to feast. A rancher once
told me a story, that he was showing someone from the midwest around his
ranch in the Hill Country (just west of Austin). The midwesterner asked
how many inches of rain he got per year, the rancher said:
Oh, around 30 or so. And I remember the night we got 'em!

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Alison - 16 Jul 2005 10:13 GMT
> "> ACK!  First we've had a two month long drought here in Houston -
now it
> won't quit raining and we're getting flooding.  AND I CAN'T GO BIKING -
> ARGH, I'm having endorphin withdrawals!!!!
>
> Hugs,
>
> CatNipped>>.

 Send some of your rain over here. It's been very dry and we'll have
a hose pipe
ban soon;(
     Alison
Christina Websell - 14 Jul 2005 22:42 GMT
>> >> > > I take it you don't watch much telly. If you're curious it's on
>> >> > > channel
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>>
> Pretty much that -- it's amazingly sudden.

It's a smell like no other, impossible to describe.  It makes most people
vomit.

I've never attended an
> autopsy where the guest of honor had not been properly refrigerated.

Does that help?

> I have, however, smelled certain bacterial infections in patients, and
> in the lab culture. If you can avoid Clostidium welchii, endeavor to do
> so.

I can imagine.   The clostridiums are nasty.

Tweed
Pamela  Shirk - 16 Jul 2005 00:02 GMT
> Let's put it this way -- a real autopsy may be bloodier, but it is so
> systematic, especially if someone is mentoring you the first few times,
> it tends not to be shocking. Of course, TV doesn't have a smell
> attachment, which is probably just as well.

Remember Quincy ME back in the 70s?  At the beginning of the show, he's
doing an autopsy with a bunch of rookie cops watching.  As the credits roll,
the rookies pass out one after another, as Quincy uses a sort of saw on the
cadaver.  The last thing they show is Quincy looking over the gurney in
surprise at the passed out cops.

Pam S. who loved Quincy before he became to focused on activism via his
show.
Trish - 16 Jul 2005 00:10 GMT
> > Let's put it this way -- a real autopsy may be bloodier, but it is so
> > systematic, especially if someone is mentoring you the first few times,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Pam S. who loved Quincy before he became to focused on activism via his
> show.

Once while I was studying in University we had the oppotunity to visit the
morgue and examine a body that had been hanging from a tree in a garden for
two years (you can imagine the decay).  It was pretty ripe smelling.  There
were a few gags but interestingly it wasn't the decomposition that smelt so
bad, it was the spray they used to keep the blowflies at bay.  The coroner
hauls out the saw to slice the skull and I so thought of Quincy ( he was my
hero when I was a child).  All over the room were buckets marked Mr. soand
so's brains.  I never realized til then that when you die you don't
necessarily get buried with all you were born with.
Mary - 16 Jul 2005 01:37 GMT
> > > Let's put it this way -- a real autopsy may be bloodier, but it is so
> > > systematic, especially if someone is mentoring you the first few times,
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> so's brains.  I never realized til then that when you die you don't
> necessarily get buried with all you were born with.

Buckets o' brains! lol! Would you like fries with that? :)
Trish - 16 Jul 2005 01:41 GMT
> > > > Let's put it this way -- a real autopsy may be bloodier, but it is so
> > > > systematic, especially if someone is mentoring you the first few
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> Buckets o' brains! lol! Would you like fries with that? :)

and a side order of splat!
Howard C. Berkowitz - 16 Jul 2005 00:36 GMT
> > Let's put it this way -- a real autopsy may be bloodier, but it is so
> > systematic, especially if someone is mentoring you the first few times,
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Pam S. who loved Quincy before he became to focused on activism via his
> show.

As I remember, it was one of the later and more stressful parts, when
the brain is exposed -- not that such detail was shown.
Karen - 16 Jul 2005 01:05 GMT
>> Let's put it this way -- a real autopsy may be bloodier, but it is so
>> systematic, especially if someone is mentoring you the first few times,
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Pam S. who loved Quincy before he became to focused on activism via his
> show.

Hmm. I don't remember activism. I was fairly young. I just remember have a
crush on him. He was so cool.
Alison - 17 Jul 2005 15:11 GMT
> > > > Pam S. who loved Quincy before he became to focused on
activism via his
> > show.
> >
> Hmm. I don't remember activism. I was fairly young. I just remember have a
> crush on him. He was so cool.>>>

  They still show repeats on daytime TV   He was cool but he was old
! :)  At that time I was into David Cassidy and David Essex.
Alison
Kreisleriana - 14 Jul 2005 23:06 GMT
>> > I take it you don't watch much telly. If you're curious it's on channel
>> > five tommorow at 9pm.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
>Sherry

My all-time OMG!!!! moment on CSI was the time a rat emerged from a
dead girl's mouth.  :O

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Pamela  Shirk - 16 Jul 2005 00:10 GMT
> My all-time OMG!!!! moment on CSI was the time a rat emerged from a
> dead girl's mouth.  :O
>
> Theresa

I was eating supper the first time I saw that episode.  I lost my food and
had to do a clean up.  I never eat during CSI any more.  Most of the
graphics don't get to me, but those few that do are enough to get to any
one.  BTW, I can see Sonya as Catherine and Tanada as Sarah on that show.  I
think Merlin would work as Grissom, but I can never remember the names of
the other characters.

I've decided that Pine Cone is more rascally than Horatio Hornblower, though
he does like to watch the BBC movies.  Qui Gun Kit has attached himself to
PC as a combination cabin boy and acolyte.  Sonya is ok with this.  I'm
surprised, PC is still a hoolicat.

Pam S.
Kreisleriana - 16 Jul 2005 00:41 GMT
>> My all-time OMG!!!! moment on CSI was the time a rat emerged from a
>> dead girl's mouth.  :O
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>PC as a combination cabin boy and acolyte.  Sonya is ok with this.  I'm
>surprised, PC is still a hoolicat.

I think of PC more as a Blackbeard type. ;)

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Pamela  Shirk - 16 Jul 2005 01:54 GMT
> I think of PC more as a Blackbeard type. ;)
>
> Theresa

Nah, PC isn't that sane.

Pam S. who can see Pine Cone with his ruff braided and fire starters stuck
within the braids
Mary - 16 Jul 2005 02:02 GMT
> > I think of PC more as a Blackbeard type. ;)
> >
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Pam S. who can see Pine Cone with his ruff braided and fire starters stuck
> within the braids

Aww! But I bet not many get the BB reference.
Kreisleriana - 16 Jul 2005 04:25 GMT
>> I think of PC more as a Blackbeard type. ;)
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Pam S. who can see Pine Cone with his ruff braided and fire starters stuck
>within the braids

As played by Robert Newton. Arrrh.

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AZ Nomad - 15 Jul 2005 01:31 GMT
>You're right, I hardly watch the telly at all.  I've even been thinking of
>getting rid of it, except I do like to watch the wildlife programmes and
>some documentaries,

I got spoiled by a software system called myth-tv.  It's an incredibly clever
hard drive program recorder.  It's smart enough to know that two shows are on
at the same time and one will be replayed later that evening to shuffle the
recordings to get both.  Combine that with 200-500 gig of hard drive, and two
or three capture cards and it'll get every single program you like
automatically.  Instead of a bookshelf with 200 VHS tapes, it's all on the hard
drive(s).
Detects commercials and skips them upon playback.  Can play at
elevated speed.  Can network to boxes scattered throughout a household.  Gets
it's program listings off the internet;  can be programmed from any web browser
on the planet.  If a friend tells you about a show, you can tell it to record it
just by going to a PC and firing up a web browser.  Some shows I like are never
in a routine time slot, Dilbert for example.  It's smart enough to record it any
time it finds it on any channel.  Doesn't record duplicates; can expire unseen
or older programs to prevent the hard drive from filling up.  And of course, it
all works from a remote control.

Now I can't watch live tv anymore except perhaps a little news in the morning.
I find news repeats itself after about 20 minutes and is half commercials.  I'd
rather get my news from google news, or yahoo news.  I'd rather watch series
prerecorded by the mythtv box or via netflix.
sriddles@aol.com - 14 Jul 2005 19:45 GMT
> <sriddles@aol.com> wrote in message
> >
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> >
> > Sherry

Christina Wrote:
I would guess you were excused after question one, anyway.  The reason
being
> that you failed to look at all the possibilities why his statement might be
> true.

Could be. The case was an 8 year old girl who said she was molested by
her uncle, and apparently the entire case hinged solely on the
credibility of the girl's testimony with zero evidence or witnesses. I
figured they excused me because by that statement I pretty much
admitted I didn't automatically always believe everything my kids told
me.
I was plenty glad to be excused though. It would have been a hard
decision to make, her word against his.

Sherry
Christina Websell - 14 Jul 2005 20:24 GMT
>> <sriddles@aol.com> wrote in message
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
>
> Sherry

I have 16 years experience working in this field.   8 years olds seldom lie
about being sexually abused as it is outside their experience to be able to
make it up.  The perpetrators often lie though, through their teeth..

It's a bit more difficult with teens who can be manipulative and have hidden
agendas.  Generally, the younger the child down to around 6 or 7 the more
likely they are to be telling the truth.
There will never be any witnesses, obviously.

Tweed
Jo Firey - 14 Jul 2005 20:39 GMT
> I have 16 years experience working in this field.   8 years olds seldom
> lie about being sexually abused as it is outside their experience to be
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> the more likely they are to be telling the truth.
> There will never be any witnesses, obviously.

That's what make is so tough to be asked to decide.  The general notion that
eight year olds seldom lie while true is pretty hard to convict on if there
is nothing else.  And perpetrators can be so convincing.  Leaves a juror
feeling unable to convince but feeling slimy for having to let a probable
creep go.

Jo
Christina Websell - 14 Jul 2005 21:03 GMT
>> I have 16 years experience working in this field.   8 years olds seldom
>> lie about being sexually abused as it is outside their experience to be
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> Jo

Oh, don't get me wrong.  8 years old *do* lie, but not usually about that
sort of thing.
Perps *have* to be convincing.  They have to convince a child to do
something they don't want to do and know instinctively is not right.  If
bribery doesn't work  "come to my house and I'll show you some kittens"
or..  "I'll give you a pound if.."  saying "I will creep into your house and
kill your mother if you don't so this must be a secret.."  usually does.
Never allow your children to have secrets.  If they say they have one  say
"we don't have secrets in this house." and din it in to them from very
small.  No secrets except for what birthday presents are.

I don't blame you for not wanting to stand as a juror on this.  Not many do
want to.

Tweed
Pamela  Shirk - 16 Jul 2005 00:16 GMT
> Perps *have* to be convincing.  They have to convince a child to do
> something they don't want to do and know instinctively is not right.  If
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> "we don't have secrets in this house." and din it in to them from very
> small.  No secrets except for what birthday presents are.

We have always taught our kids that there are good secrets and bad secrets,
if you feel bad about keeping a secret, it is a bad secret and must be told
to someone you trust.  I've been told a lot of secrets that I wouldn't
classify as bad, but the teller did. I never told them that what they were
telling me was not a bad secret, and they have never stopped telling me
their information.  I'm rather proud of that.

Pam S. who has great kids, even if they do get on her nerves from time to
time.
Wayne Mitchell - 14 Jul 2005 23:53 GMT
>I have 16 years experience working in this field.   8 years olds seldom lie
>about being sexually abused as it is outside their experience to be able to
>make it up.

Statistically, you may be right that it happens seldom.  But
when it does happen it is so terribly tragic.

Alas, on this side of the pond we have had many instances of
people falsely convicted by the completely fictional stories of
children a good deal younger than eight.  They weren't actually
lying, of course; just making up a story to please some adult.
It doesn't require any experience at all.

Interviews with the children, years later when they are in their
teens and twenties, generally evince a very high degree of anger
against the adults who manipulated them and left them with the
guilty knowledge of having caused someone to serve time in
prison for a crime which never happened.

I expect the somewhat older children in the Michael Jackson
case(s) will also feel some of that anger, even though
(blessedly) their actions didn't finally result in a false
conviction.

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Wayne M.

Christina Websell - 15 Jul 2005 00:11 GMT
>>I have 16 years experience working in this field.   8 years olds seldom
>>lie
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> lying, of course; just making up a story to please some adult.
> It doesn't require any experience at all.

An 8 year old would need experience to make up a story about sexual abuse.
Either from what happened to them, or being primed to do so by an adult.
Something would be very wrong there too.

> Interviews with the children, years later when they are in their
> teens and twenties, generally evince a very high degree of anger
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> (blessedly) their actions didn't finally result in a false
> conviction.

Do you have experience working in the child protection field, Wayne?  Is
that your job at the moment or in the past?  Just interested.

The department I work for only gets involved in child abuse - physical or
sexual - within the family.  Outside the family (like MJ case you quote) is
purely a police matter here in the UK.

Tweed
Wayne Mitchell - 15 Jul 2005 03:06 GMT
>Do you have experience working in the child protection field, Wayne?  Is
>that your job at the moment or in the past?  Just interested.

Nope, just an armchair student of jurisprudence and civil
rights.

My jobs are (in the order of importance):
1) taking care of the kitties, of course
2) homemaker and caregiver for elderly parents
3) half-assed computer consultant and odd-job specialist

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AZ Nomad - 15 Jul 2005 01:24 GMT
>I would guess you were excused after question one, anyway.  The reason being
>that you failed to look at all the possibilities why his statement might be
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>I can't say much about the CSI question as I don't really know what it is.
>Is it a TV programme about court cases?  I'm just guessing here.  If it is

It's a cross between Quincy/Adam-12/Dragnet and buck rogers in the 23 century.
More of the latter than the former.  Extravagent and lazy/stupid special
effects.  Some interesting plotlines, but absolutely no connection to reality
to the point of being a pathological liar, lying just for the exercise of
lying.
Adrian - 15 Jul 2005 11:14 GMT
>> I would guess you were excused after question one, anyway.  The
>> reason being that you failed to look at all the possibilities why
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> absolutely no connection to reality to the point of being a
> pathological liar, lying just for the exercise of lying.

I knew there was a reason I've never watched it. ;-)
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Hopitus - 15 Jul 2005 16:05 GMT
Here's a ridiculous reason for watching CSI Miami....once in awhile I tune
in, ignore the plot/actors, and enjoy the many scenes shot in my hometown,
for which I sometimes get homesick out here where the terrain/weather is so
very different. Sometimes where they are *supposed* to be is very funny
because I know where they really shot the scene and it don't add up (i.e.
Metro Miami Zoo).....LOL

>>> I would guess you were excused after question one, anyway.  The
>>> reason being that you failed to look at all the possibilities why
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> I knew there was a reason I've never watched it. ;-)
Kreisleriana - 15 Jul 2005 17:51 GMT
>Here's a ridiculous reason for watching CSI Miami....once in awhile I tune
>in, ignore the plot/actors, and enjoy the many scenes shot in my hometown,
>for which I sometimes get homesick out here where the terrain/weather is so
>very different. Sometimes where they are *supposed* to be is very funny
>because I know where they really shot the scene and it don't add up (i.e.
>Metro Miami Zoo).....LOL
Same with Law & Order, filmed in my burg.;)  Sometimes the shots are
really accurate-- like the courthouse.  Sometimes they are way off.  I
also love the addresses-- most of them would be in the Hudson or East
Rivers.    And sometimes I'm astonished to see my own neighborhood--
like, "What do they want to shoot here for?" ;)
 
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sriddles@aol.com - 15 Jul 2005 21:34 GMT
> Same with Law & Order, filmed in my burg.;)  Sometimes the shots are
> really accurate-- like the courthouse.  Sometimes they are way off.  I
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Theresa

Oo! Ooo! That was one of the highlights of my trip to NYC. They were
shooting an episode of L&O at the Labor Board Building. Being the hick
tourist that I was, we walked down there and watched. I got to talk to
Jerry Orbach even.

Sherry
Pamela  Shirk - 16 Jul 2005 00:20 GMT
> Oo! Ooo! That was one of the highlights of my trip to NYC. They were
> shooting an episode of L&O at the Labor Board Building. Being the hick
> tourist that I was, we walked down there and watched. I got to talk to
> Jerry Orbach even.
>
> Sherry

I loved Jerry Orbach.  He was so smart and had such a smart mouth.  I
understand that he had a beautiful singing voice too, though I don't recall
ever hearing him.  I thought that his acting made "Dirty Dancing."

Pam S. a big Jerry Orbach fan
Jo Firey - 16 Jul 2005 02:26 GMT
>> Oo! Ooo! That was one of the highlights of my trip to NYC. They were
>> shooting an episode of L&O at the Labor Board Building. Being the hick
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Pam S. a big Jerry Orbach fan

He was the voice of Lumiere in Beauty and the Beast.  "Be Our Guest"

And of course "The Fantastics"

Jo
Kreisleriana - 16 Jul 2005 00:24 GMT
>> Same with Law & Order, filmed in my burg.;)  Sometimes the shots are
>> really accurate-- like the courthouse.  Sometimes they are way off.  I
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>tourist that I was, we walked down there and watched. I got to talk to
>Jerry Orbach even.

Wow.  I miss him like crazy.  There's no substitute for him.  I can
just hear Lenny Briscoe questioning one scuzzball about where they can
find some other scuzzball: "And where can we find this humanitarian?"
;)

Theresa
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Howard C. Berkowitz - 16 Jul 2005 02:38 GMT
> >Here's a ridiculous reason for watching CSI Miami....once in awhile I
> >tune
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Rivers.    And sometimes I'm astonished to see my own neighborhood--
> like, "What do they want to shoot here for?" ;)

Indeed. There are some very strange scenes that are supposed to have
been filmed in Washington DC.

I do remember when "The Exorcist" was being filmed, though. The wind
machine was a menace to the neighborhood.  Oh -- that long staircase is
real.
Mishi - 16 Jul 2005 03:14 GMT
<snip>
Indeed. There are some very strange scenes that are supposed to have  been
filmed in Washington DC.

I do remember when "The Exorcist" was being filmed, though. The wind
machine was a menace to the neighborhood.  Oh -- that long staircase is
real. >

My son showed us the stairway when we went to visit him in DC about 4 years
ago. I wouldn't want to walk up and down that more than once a day!

Patti
badwilson - 16 Jul 2005 03:10 GMT
>> Here's a ridiculous reason for watching CSI Miami....once in awhile
>> I tune in, ignore the plot/actors, and enjoy the many scenes shot
in
>> my hometown, for which I sometimes get homesick out here where the
>> terrain/weather is so very different. Sometimes where they are
>> *supposed* to be is very funny because I know where they really
shot
>> the scene and it don't add up (i.e. Metro Miami Zoo).....LOL
> Same with Law & Order, filmed in my burg.;)  Sometimes the shots are
> really accurate-- like the courthouse.  Sometimes they are way off.  I
> also love the addresses-- most of them would be in the Hudson or East
> Rivers.    And sometimes I'm astonished to see my own neighborhood--
> like, "What do they want to shoot here for?" ;)

I think it's hilarious when I'm watching a movie or show that is
supposed to be taking place somewhere in the US but I can recognize
all these places in Vancouver.  It's very funny how they put up
different signs, etc.  But Vancouver is so easily recognizable,
especially if you're from there.  One time, it was even supposed to be
NY.  I had to laugh.  Where the heck did all those mountains come
from???
--
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Howard C. Berkowitz - 16 Jul 2005 03:22 GMT
> >> Here's a ridiculous reason for watching CSI Miami....once in awhile
> >> I tune in, ignore the plot/actors, and enjoy the many scenes shot
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> NY.  I had to laugh.  Where the heck did all those mountains come
> from???

Or the ones in Toronto.  And how did the CN Tower get into city X?
Alison - 14 Jul 2005 20:25 GMT
> > Speaking of CSI. There are so many of that type of show now! >>.
I prefer the original one, they have more attractive men in this
version than the others<G>

>I got
> excused from jury duty. I got up there and the DA asked me 2 questions.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Guess those were the wrong answers, 'cause the next thing I knew was
> "Juror 97, you are excused."

Strange questions but I thought your answers were good. I wonder what
the right answers were:)
Alison

> Sherry
AZ Nomad - 15 Jul 2005 01:19 GMT
>>   What's your favourite TV programme . There are so many good
>> programmes out there its hard to choose. I enjoy watching the comedies
>> , I really miss Friends:( , and  detective and law  programmes such as
>> CSI though *not* when I'm eating my dinner <G>
>>  Alison

>Speaking of CSI. There are so many of that type of show now! I got
>excused from jury duty. I got up there and the DA asked me 2 questions.

I despise CSI.  They leave nothing to the imagination;  mention that somebody
choked on their vomit and CSI will feel a need to show it from a camera angle
at the back of the throat.

CSI is totally incapable of showing the slightest technology without nyping it
beyond the slightest connection to reality.  Computers always put up text at
110 baud making card readers as they do so;  an email program must flip the email
into an envelope and whisk it away instead of just sending the thing.  A
"portable dna analyzer" will scan a billion records in under 10 seconds beeping
like R2D2 the whole time.
Absolute rubbish.  The most hilarious part is probably the frequency of
gun-battles that these lab-geeks get involved in.

TV shows are capable of showing people use a couch without it floating a foot
off the ground and morphing from ottoman to 12' couch;  why can't hollywood
show a computer just being used instead of hyping it out of all reason?   Why
must christmas lights be strung on everything?

Pretty much any time CSI shows technology more advanced than a pencil, they'll
get it absolutely wrong.

I know nobody wants a show as dull as cspan court proceedings;  but how about
showing a computer being used as a normal tool just once?
Dan M - 15 Jul 2005 17:11 GMT
> CSI is totally incapable of showing the slightest technology without
> nyping it beyond the slightest connection to reality.  Computers always
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Absolute rubbish.  The most hilarious part is probably the frequency of
> gun-battles that these lab-geeks get involved in.

I just love the way CSI portrays the whole business. In my county at
least:
* CSI's don't carry guns
* CSI's never interview witnesses
* CSI's don't control a crime scene, the case officer does
* CSI's never
do lab work such as identiying fibers, coordinating DNA evidence with
samples, etc. That's all done by criminalists who have a lot more training
and area at a much higher pay grade
* My favorite one of all - when the folks on CSI are dusting for latent
prints they frequently twirl their brushes. In the Crime Scene
Investigation class I took we were taught to always brush in straight
lines.
Pamela  Shirk - 16 Jul 2005 00:25 GMT
> I just love the way CSI portrays the whole business. In my county at
> least:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Investigation class I took we were taught to always brush in straight
> lines.

These are all problems I have with the CSI shows.  I don't know of any
police department where the CSI members interview the perps and witnesses.

BTW you don't EVER want to get me going on Boston Public.  Talk about
totally inaccurate....

Pam S.
AZ Nomad - 16 Jul 2005 01:33 GMT
>> I just love the way CSI portrays the whole business. In my county at
>> least:
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>> Investigation class I took we were taught to always brush in straight
>> lines.

>These are all problems I have with the CSI shows.  I don't know of any
>police department where the CSI members interview the perps and witnesses.

I always cringed when they showed anything more technical than a pencil.
Anybody use a computer at work?  I hear they're quiet common.  Any of them have
dancing lines of text, and make brasping noises every time a character is placed
on the screen, no faster than 3 lines a second?

The other scenes that make me cringe are they re-enactments where they assume
that nobody watching the show could possibly have 20 brain cells in which to
have an imagination.  Say the line "He probably had kippers for lunch", and
they would have to show an animated scene with kippers being chewed and going
down a tunnel that supposedly must have been his throat.
wafflycat - 16 Jul 2005 11:28 GMT
> The other scenes that make me cringe are they re-enactments where they
> assume
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> going
> down a tunnel that supposedly must have been his throat.

And there was me thinking the entire programme was fiction anyway and purely
for enterainment value :-)

Cheers, helen s

p.s Last night here in UK, the CSI: Miami episode was good - with maggots in
and on gaping headwound of victim still alive ;-)
AZ Nomad - 16 Jul 2005 21:43 GMT
>> The other scenes that make me cringe are they re-enactments where they
>> assume
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>> going
>> down a tunnel that supposedly must have been his throat.

>And there was me thinking the entire programme was fiction anyway and purely
>for enterainment value :-)

>Cheers, helen s

>p.s Last night here in UK, the CSI: Miami episode was good - with maggots in
>and on gaping headwound of victim still alive ;-)

and of course they left nothing to the imagination.  Oh brave new world!
CatNipped - 15 Jul 2005 19:16 GMT
> I know nobody wants a show as dull as cspan court proceedings;  but how about
> showing a computer being used as a normal tool just once?

I bet you just loved "Independence Day" when Jeff Goldblum's character's
computer hooked up with the alien's computer and hijacked the system in
about 2 minutes flat - *I* want a laptop like that!

Hugs,

CatNipped
-L. - 14 Jul 2005 09:32 GMT
> Thanks to the brilliant person who pointed this out.

You are seriously f.cked in the head.  Seriously.

-L.
whitershadeofpale - 14 Jul 2005 13:23 GMT
> > Thanks to the brilliant person who pointed this out.
>
> You are seriously f.cked in the head.  Seriously.
>
> -L.

What motivates Lyn, is a Peanut Butter cookie

She'd dance, for a peanut butter cookie.
 
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