Babycat is out of control. She was just so tiny, so teeny-tiny I was
way too permissive with her. Now I have a seven-week-old hoolikitten.
She attacks anything that moves, and is a leg-climber and hand-biter.
I've tried all the tricks I've gleaned over the years off newsgroups.
I've picked her up and hissed at her. I've puther down and ignored her
when she gets mean.
The *only*, and I mean only thing that works is to dump out a sack of
toys. Wipple balls, foil balls, and rattly mice. She's distracted
easily. Problem is, she reverts right back into hoolikitten.
Hindsight is always clear, but now I think I should have brought
another tiny kitten home from the shelter and raised with her. Billy &
Lily were never this ornery. They had each other to torment and left
the hoomins alone.
Sherry
Pat - 14 Jul 2005 04:55 GMT
> Babycat is out of control. She was just so tiny, so teeny-tiny I was
> way too permissive with her. Now I have a seven-week-old hoolikitten.
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> Lily were never this ornery. They had each other to torment and left
> the hoomins alone.
Beatrice is trying her best to be as bad as your Babycat. I thank my lucky
stars that she is not afraid to attack the other cats. Her favorites to
wrestle with are Billy and Eli - the two biggest boys! - and Eli really gets
after her and makes her scream, but she runs right back for more, every
time.
Kreisleriana - 14 Jul 2005 14:16 GMT
>> Babycat is out of control. She was just so tiny, so teeny-tiny I was
>> way too permissive with her. Now I have a seven-week-old hoolikitten.
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>after her and makes her scream, but she runs right back for more, every
>time.
I think it's great that you have such spirited little girls! Beatrice
sounds like the little girl football player. ;)
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Karen - 14 Jul 2005 05:14 GMT
> Babycat is out of control. She was just so tiny, so teeny-tiny I was
> way too permissive with her. Now I have a seven-week-old hoolikitten.
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>
> Sherry
I think it is more that "only kitten" syndrome than that you are a bad
meowmie. I think if you just persist with the hissing and ignoring (maybe
"time out" in a separate room?) It will eventually "take". I need pics!
SuzQ - 16 Jul 2005 16:59 GMT
Karen said:
I think it is more that "only kitten" syndrome than that you are a bad
meowmie. I think if you just persist with the hissing and ignoring (maybe
"time out" in a separate room?) It will eventually "take". I need pics!
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Time out is what I did with Spicey. Usually 5-10min was enough.
Suz
MaryL - 14 Jul 2005 07:41 GMT
> Babycat is out of control. She was just so tiny, so teeny-tiny I was
> way too permissive with her. Now I have a seven-week-old hoolikitten.
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>
> Sherry
Have you tried a short "time-out" period? That is, instead of simply
putting her down, say "No" (firmly) and place her in a separate room *every
time* she scratches or bites. A short period of time is adequate -- 10 or
15 minutes. Also, you probably already know this, but *never* entice her to
scratch by wriggling your fingers at her or scritching her until she starts
to grab your hands. Always use toys instead.
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sriddles@aol.com - 14 Jul 2005 08:00 GMT
> > Babycat is out of control. She was just so tiny, so teeny-tiny I was
> > way too permissive with her. Now I have a seven-week-old hoolikitten.
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>
> MaryL
Arrggh. We've tried time-out. No, I never did tempt her by using my
fingers / hands as toys on purpose. She mostly attacks ankles. Or if
you put her in your lap, she attacks earrings and necklaces. She seems
to get wound up, *then* when you try to pet her, she grabs / bites your
hand.
I know she can learn, though. When Bootsie is in view, she is quiet and
still as a mouse. Boots has "disciplined" her once or twice, and she
didn't forget it.
It's the biggest exercise in discipline for *us* to discipline
something that cute though!!!
Sherry
Wayne Mitchell - 14 Jul 2005 17:28 GMT
>Arrggh. We've tried time-out. No, I never did tempt her by using my
>fingers / hands as toys on purpose. She mostly attacks ankles. Or if
>you put her in your lap, she attacks earrings and necklaces. She seems
>to get wound up, *then* when you try to pet her, she grabs / bites your
>hand.
I think someone must have mishandled Heidi at this stage of
kittenhood (I got her from a shelter at about age 3). It seems
like she doesn't trust herself to play. I frequently try to
entice her with toys because she's a little "fluffy" and I want
to increase her activity level. But if she finds herself
getting excited and attacking a dangled toy, she immediately
turns away and puts some distance between herself and the
temptation, sometimes even leaving the room. It just seems that
she expects bad consequences any time she lets herself go.
I wonder if, as a kitten, she might have had humans who liked to
see her play, but were intolerant and even severe if she got
carried away and did something painful or frightening to the
humans.

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Steve Touchstone - 14 Jul 2005 20:28 GMT
>I think someone must have mishandled Heidi at this stage of
>kittenhood (I got her from a shelter at about age 3). It seems
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>carried away and did something painful or frightening to the
>humans.
It took LB the longest time to let herself go and play, and she still
isn't nearly as active as she should be - hence her fluffiness. I
think she and you Heidi shared much the same experience as kittens -
and with LB I think I even know the instrument of discipline. For a
couple years after moving in with she woould run and hide if she saw a
flyswatter. The 'swatter didn't even have to be inyour hand - if she
saw it hanging on the wall she ran and hid.

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MissysMom - 14 Jul 2005 07:59 GMT
When I got Little Miss, she was an attack kitty. She would attack my
feet constantly. I'm still working on her biting.
The only thing that worked when she got so worked up she would attack
my feet so much, I couldn't walk was to do timeout. Sometimes, I had to
do it twice before she got it. The thing that has worked with her
biting my hands has been bitter apple spray. She gets one taste of that
and doesn't bit.
Best of luck. I feel for you. I don't think it's "terrible meowmie"
than just kitten attacks and "single cat syndrome."
LMM (Little Missy's Mom), and the every adorable but feisty Little Miss
Rhonda - 18 Jul 2005 03:19 GMT
I don't know, of our four kittens -- two would attack us. While I was
fighting one off of my feet, the other would jump on my back with all
claws out. It was endless.
Sometimes they would both climb my legs at the same time. I can't tell
you have many kitten scars I have.
I think some kittens are just born with the crazy gene.
Rhonda
> Best of luck. I feel for you. I don't think it's "terrible meowmie"
> than just kitten attacks and "single cat syndrome."
>
> LMM (Little Missy's Mom), and the every adorable but feisty Little Miss
-L. - 14 Jul 2005 09:36 GMT
> Babycat is out of control.
One word: CatDancer. :)
-L.
KaN - 14 Jul 2005 13:42 GMT
I've used the spare room 'time out' trick with a lot of success....but I've
never tried it with such a young kitty. It seems normal to me for a kitty
that young to behave like this. Maybe a playmate would help? I know my
Guinevere (under 1 year) would be lost without Arthur and Lancelot (both
older but very energetic). Or maybe you could play with her more and try
to tire her out?
Victor M - 14 Jul 2005 14:52 GMT
> Hindsight is always clear, but now I think I should have brought
> another tiny kitten home from the shelter and raised with her. Billy &
It's never too late! I'm sure the shelter has at least one hoolikitten
her age... :)
Victor
CatNipped - 14 Jul 2005 14:58 GMT
> Babycat is out of control. She was just so tiny, so teeny-tiny I was
> way too permissive with her. Now I have a seven-week-old hoolikitten.
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>
> Sherry
Did you try the high-pitched "MEW" when she gets too rough? I've found that
works better than hissing at getting a kitten to stop (it's how they get
each other to cease and desist when the play gets too rough).
Hugs,
CatNipped