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Hopitus - 13 Jul 2005 18:45 GMT So what, if any, is your studied response to Jacque's blurted opinion that Brit food, after Finnish, is the worst, in *his* exalted French judgement? What gets into the man, anyway, to generate such statements? Now everyone knows French food is thought to be the epitome of gastronomic pleasure.....that is if one can read the menu, understand it, and be aware of exactly *what* you're ordering. I know *nothing* of Finnish food faves, maybe you can tell us some. OTOH I have enjoyed Brit food prepared by friends in USA, most delicious if not exotic (my Scotch ancestors had some stranger faves, right, Jill?) "stick-to-your-ribs", hearty fare truly satisfying to my palate! Marina is on her island, but are you out there, Christine K.? Instead of menu items would you like to give Jacque 27 slaps w/a wet, cold Nordic fish of some local variety?
Christine K. - 13 Jul 2005 20:25 GMT Well, my response to that opinion is, that that's exactly what it is, his personal opinion. The difference being that as he's a widely known political figure and made this statement in front of the media, it gets more widely spread and gets far more attention than it should. Also, the fact that he made such a comment at all in public, gives him at least a touch of arrogance, and maybe stupidity, but this is just *my* tiny personal opinion.
Maybe French food is *thought* to be the "epitome of gastronomic pleasure", but much of it's not quite "my cup of tea". I don't think I'd even care to try oysters, frog's legs or escargots, even tho they're considered to be among the top of haute cuisine. But then again, there are many foods the travelers of the Lonely Planet travel shows tried bravely, that I wouldn't touch either.
Admittedly there *are* some out right strange stuff eaten here in Finland, such as "mämmi" (mammi with dots on the a), which is a dish eaten during the easter holidays. It is made of water, malt (the grain, not the spirit), rye flour, some grated peel of bitter orange and a dash of salt. It's baked in the oven for hours on low temp and when it's ready, it looks to the uninitiated mostly like something a cow may have produced if she had diarrhea, but it tastes good with sugar and cream. The whole recipe is actually available in English ("Finnish Easter Pudding") on the same site where I looked up the Finnish version, together with a few other Finnish specialities.
Long version of the URL: http://www.finfood.fi/finfood/ff2.nsf/0/76C3DF85D5E188B2C2256F95002562B6?opendoc ument&cat1=Ruokakulttuuri&cat2=Finnish%20specialities
or short version: http://tinyurl.com/an5g6
A few more Finnish recipes available at: http://www.recipesource.com/ethnic/europe/finnish/
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jmcquown - 13 Jul 2005 20:43 GMT > So what, if any, is your studied response to Jacque's blurted opinion > that Brit food, after Finnish, is the worst, in *his* exalted French > judgement? What gets into the man, anyway, to generate such > statements? Are we discussing Jacque's Pepin?
> Now everyone knows French food is thought to be the epitome of > gastronomic pleasure.....that is if one can read the menu, understand > it, and be aware of exactly *what* you're ordering. I know *nothing* > of Finnish food faves, maybe you can tell us some. OTOH I have > enjoyed Brit food prepared by friends in USA, most delicious if not > exotic (my Scotch ancestors had some stranger faves, right, Jill?) Would you like my recipe for Haggis? :-o
> "stick-to-your-ribs", hearty fare truly satisfying > to my palate! Marina is on her island, but are you out there, > Christine K.? Instead of menu items would you like to give Jacque 27 > slaps w/a wet, cold Nordic fish of some local variety? Hopitus - 14 Jul 2005 04:17 GMT Nah, Pepin's a well-known chef, right? Headlines here quoted Chirac (sp?) head dude of French gov't. You could probably still find it in media quotes. Thanks for the food urls Christine...I will learn lots by investigating them! Right now the only things Finnish I have are that great cheese......and a Nokia wireless.
>> So what, if any, is your studied response to Jacque's blurted opinion >> that Brit food, after Finnish, is the worst, in *his* exalted French [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >> Christine K.? Instead of menu items would you like to give Jacque 27 >> slaps w/a wet, cold Nordic fish of some local variety? Marina - 21 Jul 2005 09:58 GMT > Nah, Pepin's a well-known chef, right? > Headlines here quoted Chirac (sp?) head dude of French gov't. You could > probably still find it in media quotes. > Thanks for the food urls Christine...I will learn lots by investigating > them! Right now the only things Finnish I have are that great > cheese......and a Nokia wireless. At the moment, the best Finnish food is the fresh veggies and berries that are in season - new potatoes, fresh peas that you eat direct from the pod, fresh strawberries, blueberries, beets, spring onions, carrots... I've seen many claims that Finnish veggies are the cleanest in the world, and have no reason to doubt it. Another big thing in Finnish cuisine is fish, but I can't really tell you more about that, because I've never liked fish myself. Seasonal specialties include crayfish (a tradition brought over from Sweden) in August, mämmi (that Christine mentioned) and other stuff with influences from Russia at Easter, and carrot or swede casseroles at Yule.
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Debbie Wilson - 21 Jul 2005 09:58 GMT > At the moment, the best Finnish food is the fresh veggies and berries > that are in season - new potatoes, fresh peas that you eat direct from [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Christine mentioned) and other stuff with influences from Russia at > Easter, and carrot or swede casseroles at Yule. From your description, Finnish food sounds divine at this time of year - and I should imagine your fresh Baltic fish is a million times nicer and cleaner than anything Italy could pull out of the Med :-)
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Adrian - 21 Jul 2005 18:15 GMT >> Nah, Pepin's a well-known chef, right? >> Headlines here quoted Chirac (sp?) head dude of French gov't. You [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Christine mentioned) and other stuff with influences from Russia at > Easter, and carrot or swede casseroles at Yule. The veggies sound wonderful, I'm not so keen on the fish either.
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Marina - 21 Jul 2005 09:46 GMT > So what, if any, is your studied response to Jacque's blurted opinion that > Brit food, after Finnish, is the worst, in *his* exalted French judgement? > What gets into the man, anyway, to generate such statements? Jacques didn't start it, his Italian friend Silvio (Berlusconi) did. What seems baffling to me is, I've always thought of France and Italy as two of the most civilised countries in the world, but both have leaders who have acted incredibly rudely.
The root of it all is that Finland and Italy were candidates for the European Union's food safety institution. It was finally placed in Italy, and at the opening, SB again attacked Finnish food, like he did when both countries were lobbying for it. Not only that, he insulted our (female) President by claiming that he used his male charms on her to get the institution. I can't believe a clod like this can be elected to lead a country like Italy. Some say the elections were fixed.
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Howard C. Berkowitz - 22 Jul 2005 02:48 GMT > > So what, if any, is your studied response to Jacque's blurted opinion > > that [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > get the institution. I can't believe a clod like this can be elected to > lead a country like Italy. Some say the elections were fixed. Nothing testifies to the excellent sense of humor of the Italians as much as the politicians they elect.
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