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Hopitus - 13 Jul 2005 18:45 GMT
So what, if any, is your studied response to Jacque's blurted opinion that
Brit food, after Finnish, is the worst, in *his* exalted French judgement?
What gets into the man, anyway, to generate such statements?
Now everyone knows French food is thought to be the epitome of gastronomic
pleasure.....that is if one can read the menu, understand it, and be aware
of exactly *what* you're ordering. I know *nothing* of Finnish food faves,
maybe you can tell us some. OTOH I have enjoyed Brit food prepared by
friends in USA, most delicious if not exotic (my Scotch ancestors had some
stranger faves, right, Jill?) "stick-to-your-ribs", hearty fare truly
satisfying
to my palate! Marina is on her island, but are you out there, Christine K.?
Instead of menu items would you like to give Jacque 27 slaps w/a wet, cold
Nordic fish of some local variety?
Christine K. - 13 Jul 2005 20:25 GMT
Well, my response to that opinion is, that that's exactly what it is,
his personal opinion. The difference being that as he's a widely known
political figure and made this statement in front of the media, it gets
more widely spread and gets far more attention than it should. Also, the
fact that he made such a comment at all in public, gives him at least a
touch of arrogance, and maybe stupidity, but this is just *my* tiny
personal opinion.

Maybe French food is *thought* to be the "epitome of gastronomic
pleasure", but much of it's not quite "my cup of tea". I don't think I'd
even care to try oysters, frog's legs or escargots, even tho they're
considered to be among the top of haute cuisine. But then again, there
are many foods the travelers of the Lonely Planet travel shows tried
bravely, that I wouldn't touch either.

Admittedly there *are* some out right strange stuff eaten here in
Finland, such as "mämmi" (mammi with dots on the a), which is a dish
eaten during the easter holidays. It is made of water, malt (the grain,
not the spirit), rye flour, some grated peel of bitter orange and a dash
of salt. It's baked in the oven for hours on low temp and when it's
ready, it looks to the uninitiated mostly like something a cow may have
produced if she had diarrhea, but it tastes good with sugar and cream.
The whole recipe is actually available in English ("Finnish Easter
Pudding") on the same site where I looked up the Finnish version,
together with a few other Finnish specialities.

Long version of the URL:
http://www.finfood.fi/finfood/ff2.nsf/0/76C3DF85D5E188B2C2256F95002562B6?opendoc
ument&cat1=Ruokakulttuuri&cat2=Finnish%20specialities


or short version:
http://tinyurl.com/an5g6

A few more Finnish recipes available at:
http://www.recipesource.com/ethnic/europe/finnish/

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jmcquown - 13 Jul 2005 20:43 GMT
> So what, if any, is your studied response to Jacque's blurted opinion
> that Brit food, after Finnish, is the worst, in *his* exalted French
> judgement? What gets into the man, anyway, to generate such
> statements?

Are we discussing Jacque's Pepin?

> Now everyone knows French food is thought to be the epitome of
> gastronomic pleasure.....that is if one can read the menu, understand
> it, and be aware of exactly *what* you're ordering. I know *nothing*
> of Finnish food faves, maybe you can tell us some. OTOH I have
> enjoyed Brit food prepared by friends in USA, most delicious if not
> exotic (my Scotch ancestors had some stranger faves, right, Jill?)

Would you like my recipe for Haggis? :-o

> "stick-to-your-ribs", hearty fare truly satisfying
> to my palate! Marina is on her island, but are you out there,
> Christine K.? Instead of menu items would you like to give Jacque 27
> slaps w/a wet, cold Nordic fish of some local variety?
Hopitus - 14 Jul 2005 04:17 GMT
Nah, Pepin's a well-known chef, right?
Headlines here quoted Chirac (sp?) head dude of French gov't. You could
probably still find it in media quotes.
Thanks for the food urls Christine...I will learn lots by investigating
them! Right now the only things Finnish I have are that great
cheese......and a Nokia wireless.

>> So what, if any, is your studied response to Jacque's blurted opinion
>> that Brit food, after Finnish, is the worst, in *his* exalted French
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>> Christine K.? Instead of menu items would you like to give Jacque 27
>> slaps w/a wet, cold Nordic fish of some local variety?
Marina - 21 Jul 2005 09:58 GMT
> Nah, Pepin's a well-known chef, right?
> Headlines here quoted Chirac (sp?) head dude of French gov't. You could
> probably still find it in media quotes.
> Thanks for the food urls Christine...I will learn lots by investigating
> them! Right now the only things Finnish I have are that great
> cheese......and a Nokia wireless.

At the moment, the best Finnish food is the fresh veggies and berries
that are in season - new potatoes, fresh peas that you eat direct from
the pod, fresh strawberries, blueberries, beets, spring onions,
carrots... I've seen many claims that Finnish veggies are the cleanest
in the world, and have no reason to doubt it. Another big thing in
Finnish cuisine is fish, but I can't really tell you more about that,
because I've never liked fish myself. Seasonal specialties include
crayfish (a tradition brought over from Sweden) in August, mämmi (that
Christine mentioned) and other stuff with influences from Russia at
Easter, and carrot or swede casseroles at Yule.

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Debbie Wilson - 21 Jul 2005 09:58 GMT
> At the moment, the best Finnish food is the fresh veggies and berries
> that are in season - new potatoes, fresh peas that you eat direct from
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Christine mentioned) and other stuff with influences from Russia at
> Easter, and carrot or swede casseroles at Yule.

From your description, Finnish food sounds divine at this time of year -
and I should imagine your fresh Baltic fish is a million times nicer and
cleaner than anything Italy could pull out of the Med :-)

Deb.
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Adrian - 21 Jul 2005 18:15 GMT
>> Nah, Pepin's a well-known chef, right?
>> Headlines here quoted Chirac (sp?) head dude of French gov't. You
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Christine mentioned) and other stuff with influences from Russia at
> Easter, and carrot or swede casseroles at Yule.

The veggies sound wonderful, I'm not so keen on the fish either.
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Marina - 21 Jul 2005 09:46 GMT
> So what, if any, is your studied response to Jacque's blurted opinion that
> Brit food, after Finnish, is the worst, in *his* exalted French judgement?
> What gets into the man, anyway, to generate such statements?

Jacques didn't start it, his Italian friend Silvio (Berlusconi) did.
What seems baffling to me is, I've always thought of France and Italy as
two of the most civilised countries in the world, but both have leaders
who have acted incredibly rudely.

The root of it all is that Finland and Italy were candidates for the
European Union's food safety institution. It was finally placed in
Italy, and at the opening, SB again attacked Finnish food, like he did
when both countries were lobbying for it. Not only that, he insulted our
(female) President by claiming that he used his male charms on her to
get the institution. I can't believe a clod like this can be elected to
lead a country like Italy. Some say the elections were fixed.

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Howard C. Berkowitz - 22 Jul 2005 02:48 GMT
> > So what, if any, is your studied response to Jacque's blurted opinion
> > that
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> get the institution. I can't believe a clod like this can be elected to
> lead a country like Italy. Some say the elections were fixed.

Nothing testifies to the excellent sense of humor of the Italians as
much as the politicians they elect.
 
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