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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / July 2005Easier than I thought!
You learn something new every day: I just found a quick way to eliminate troll/heckler messages from the NG using Outlook Express. My original process was: (1) highlight one of the unwanted messages, (2) click the Message menu, (3) select "Create Rule from Message", (3) follow those steps, (4) go to the Tools menu, (5) select Message Rules/News and then (6) use "Apply Now..." for the newest Rule. With the new method, I do is Steps 1 + 2 above, then click "Block Sender" and OK, and they all disappear. But I bet you all knew that already ;) >You learn something new every day: I just found a quick way to eliminate >troll/heckler messages from the NG using Outlook Express. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >But I bet you all knew that already ;) Well, Microsoft has to give its own names to everything, but that's pretty much what everyone else calls a "killfile." ;) Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com > >You learn something new every day: I just found a quick way to eliminate > >troll/heckler messages from the NG using Outlook Express. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Well, Microsoft has to give its own names to everything, but that's > pretty much what everyone else calls a "killfile." ;) So you are saying that "block sender" is the same thing as "killfile", right? There is one flaw with the method: Replies to the trolls still show up, with the original unwanted posts inside. Is there a solution to this? > So you are saying that "block sender" is the same thing as "killfile", > right? Technically, the archive where the blocked senders are stored is the actual killfile. :) > There is one flaw with the method: Replies to the trolls still show up, with > the original unwanted posts inside. Is there a solution to this? My old unix-based newsreader killed every post by offending trolls as well as any replies that referenced posts by the trolls. I don't think that's easily doable with modern newsreaders. Sad, isn't it? "Progress" made newsreaders less capable.  SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > > So you are saying that "block sender" is the same thing as "killfile", > > right? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > that's easily doable with modern newsreaders. Sad, isn't it? "Progress" > made newsreaders less capable. Most of the UNIX readers allowed you to have filters for the body of messages. I don't know of Windows or Mac ones that do. With UNIX available under Mac OS X, I may go back to UNIX for reading mail. >> > So you are saying that "block sender" is the same thing as "killfile", >> > right? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > messages. I don't know of Windows or Mac ones that do. With UNIX > available under Mac OS X, I may go back to UNIX for reading mail. There is a filter on OE that says "if the text contains xxxxx.." then you can choose what to do with it and deleting it from the server is an option. Tweed >>>> So you are saying that "block sender" is the same thing as "killfile", >>>> right? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > option. > Tweed "if the text contains xxxxx" is available for EMAIL message rules. The same filter is not available in NEWS message rules. >>>> So you are saying that "block sender" is the same thing as >>>> "killfile", right? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Tweed I thought that only worked for mail, not news. >>>>> So you are saying that "block sender" is the same thing as >>>>> "killfile", right? [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > I thought that only worked for mail, not news. The rules work for all of it. I may have to filter the text CONAN (sorry, kitty) and hope no one wants to discuss a film with that name in it ;) Jill >>>>>> So you are saying that "block sender" is the same thing as >>>>>> "killfile", right? [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Jill OE does allow for filtering by text content ... in email text. The same filter is not available in news text. >>>> So you are saying that "block sender" is the same thing as >>>> "killfile", right? [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Tweed True, but you have to be sure you'll never again want to read a message (or email) which includes said text. I got rid of emails with subjects such as "mortgage" (I don't have one) but if I did that with the text of an email message, when my best friend emailed me they paid off the mortgage on their house I never would have seen her email! Jill >>>>> So you are saying that "block sender" is the same thing as >>>>> "killfile", right? [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > > Jill I know. It comes down to how much you don't want to read the posts that are annoying you versus the chances of missing one. You can always remove the rule later. Tweed >> >You learn something new every day: I just found a quick way to eliminate >> >troll/heckler messages from the NG using Outlook Express. [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > So you are saying that "block sender" is the same thing as "killfile", > right? Yes. Ish. > There is one flaw with the method: Replies to the trolls still show up, > with > the original unwanted posts inside. Is there a solution to this? That is because the people who reply leave the trollpost in to show the context of their message. I've never found a solution to this. What I like about block sender is that OE says "would you like to remove all messages.. from this sender.. etc now?" And I say yes, and hey presto, they all disappear!! On the other hand, you can kill the whole thread if you want to. I have used both the methods that you have. I am on another group for another interest I have where there is almost the worst troll in the world who changes names & ISP's weekly and I used both methods there. Until recently I didn't have a single person on rpca in my killfile. With the influx of new posters coming over here from the other group because of crossposting my kf is beginning to bulge.. Sad, isn't it? Tweed > you can kill the whole thread if you want to. Please tell me how this is done with OE. > Please tell me how this is done with OE. My guess is that you just press "k" while reading an offending message. That seems to be a standard command. It's working great for me, as far as I can tell, the group is back to normal!!! :) SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com >> Please tell me how this is done with OE. > >My guess is that you just press "k" while reading an offending message. >That seems to be a standard command. >It's working great for me, as far as I can tell, the group is back to >normal!!! :) hmmm, can't answer the original question, but pressing "k" isn't right for me. I use Free Agent, but I imagine the full-blown Agent would keep the same keyboard shortcuts. In my program, "k" is the key to press if you want to keep a message when you're deleting several messages at once. BTW, Free Agent doesn't have a true killfile - along with a spellchecker, this is one of the things you get when you fork over some money instead of using the free version. You can choose to ignore a thread, though. So, technically speaking, when I say someone has been PLONKED it would be more accurate to say I've had enough and will be ignoring anything else they post. SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Spot with loving memories of Rocky (RB) stouchst@JUNKsirinet.net [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html >> Please tell me how this is done with OE. > > My guess is that you just press "k" while reading an offending message. > That seems to be a standard command. > It's working great for me, as far as I can tell, the group is back to > normal!!! :) Ctrl/k does nothing in OE. >> you can kill the whole thread if you want to. > > Please tell me how this is done with OE. Click on the post so you can read it and it brings up on your screen. Then click message, then ignore conversation. Also if you see a post you don't want to read, you can mark it as read, even if you haven't. OTOH if there is a conversation you are interested in, in the same way you can click on watch conversation and a pair of spectacles will show up at the side of it and it will be highlighted in red when you see rpca showing up with how many posts are there. Tweed >>> you can kill the whole thread if you want to. >> [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Tweed I just learned something new. Thank you. Also available from Message/Ignore menue ... is "Create Rule From Message". >> you can kill the whole thread if you want to. > > Please tell me how this is done with OE. Tools/Message Rules/News/ Choose New .... and from there create a newsgroup rule, following the prompts. Apply. > So you are saying that "block sender" is the same thing as "killfile", > right? > There is one flaw with the method: Replies to the trolls still show up, with > the original unwanted posts inside. Is there a solution to this? My system allows me to 'kill' in different ways. Sometimes simply killing an entire thread as soon as there's a hint that it's started by a troll or is getting nasty makes life a lot more pleasant. You can also use this method to hide topics that don't interest you, although I generally don't bother. Killing the thread instead of, or in addition to, the poster you don't want to read tends to get rid of most of the follow-ups. Well, at least until or unless the poster starts something with a new subject line, but killing each new one takes only a second. SignatureCheryl > My system allows me to 'kill' in different ways. Sometimes simply killing > an entire thread as soon as there's a hint that it's started by a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > at least until or unless the poster starts something with a new subject > line, but killing each new one takes only a second. And how is that done please?? > And how is that done please?? I use tin, and simply select the offending post, open up the menu (I think it's control-k) and put in the appropriate settings. Not many people seem to use tin anymore, but you should be able to do something similar with your software. SignatureCheryl >> My system allows me to 'kill' in different ways. Sometimes simply killing >> an entire thread as soon as there's a hint that it's started by a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > And how is that done please?? Pat - in OE, highlight a message from the person you want to block, go to the top menu of the OE screen, click on 'Message', then click on 'Block Sender". Oops.........I just blocked you while checking what I was doing <g> Went to 'Tools" on the OE screen, clicked on 'Message Rules', and then unblocked you....Lorna >> Well, Microsoft has to give its own names to everything, but that's >> pretty much what everyone else calls a "killfile." ;) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > There is one flaw with the method: Replies to the trolls still show up, with > the original unwanted posts inside. Is there a solution to this? trn had a great feature that said "kill this article and any article following up to it." I've never seen it on another newsreader... but I'll admit to being biased and not liking any reader I've tried since trn. b > trn had a great feature that said "kill this article and any article > following up to it." I've never seen it on another newsreader... but > I'll admit to being biased and not liking any reader I've tried since trn. Gosh, I miss trn... SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > You learn something new every day: I just found a quick way to eliminate > troll/heckler messages from the NG using Outlook Express. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > But I bet you all knew that already ;) please add me to your list it's bigbadbarry at adelphia dot net Regards LPF |
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