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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / July 2005Purrs, please, for tomorrow ...
I'm going in for root canal attempt #2 at 9:15 Mountain time. It's not life-threatening or anything, but they're going to go past where the endodontist is comfortable that he can avoid accidentally puncturing the tooth. If he punctures the tooth, it will have to be extracted, but if he doesn't try at all, it will have to be extracted anyway. So we're going to try, against all odds and really against my doctor's expectations, to find the canal way up there somewhere. Purrs please that this unlikely attempt will result in a successful location of canal and root canal procedure, so that I don't have to get the tooth extracted. I hate the idea of losing a tooth completely. You don't have to send a NG message; if you could just send positive vibes my way, I'd really appreciate it.  Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > I'm going in for root canal attempt #2 at 9:15 Mountain time. It's > not life-threatening or anything, but they're going to go past where [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > You don't have to send a NG message; if you could just send positive > vibes my way, I'd really appreciate it. Sending the good vibes. I lost one tooth many years ago due to a doctors laziness. It didn't seem a big deal at the time, but I still miss the darn thing. Purrs will follow if I can convince these guys to come inside. If I were a cat on a night like this, I would stay out. Jo Purrs for you, I'm from a family of people in the dental field and know that a root canal is not fun Purs from Kristi, Imp, Mischief and yes, Mayhem >I'm going in for root canal attempt #2 at 9:15 Mountain time. It's >not life-threatening or anything, but they're going to go past where [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >You don't have to send a NG message; if you could just send positive >vibes my way, I'd really appreciate it. Dental purrs enroute SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy, Little Bit and Spot with loving memories of Rocky (RB) stouchst@JUNKsirinet.net [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html > I'm going in for root canal attempt #2 at 9:15 Mountain time. It's > not life-threatening or anything, but they're going to go past where [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > anyway. So we're going to try, against all odds and really against my > doctor's expectations, to find the canal way up there somewhere. You are a braver woman than I. I'm *terrified* of dentists. Butchers, the lot of them ;-) As a result of my terror of dentists I have been nursing an abcess in my jaw for the last week. Yes, yes, I know I should go, but I would have to be out cold to be able to allow a dentist anywhere near me and I've never been able to find a dentist who takes my protestations of pain seriously. They just do not or do not want to understand that the vibrations of the drill cause me physical pain, even if I've been given a local... Many healing vibes heading your way. Cheers, helen s You are a braver woman than I. I'm *terrified* of dentists. Butchers, the lot of them ;-) As a result of my terror of dentists I have been nursing an abcess in my jaw for the last week. Yes, yes, I know I should go, but I would have to be out cold to be able to allow a dentist anywhere near me and I've never been able to find a dentist who takes my protestations of pain seriously. They just do not or do not want to understand that the vibrations of the drill cause me physical pain, even if I've been given a local... Many healing vibes heading your way. Cheers, helen s ======================================== Too bad you can't come here (mass.) we have a chain of Dental practices called Gental Dentist. They specialize in people who can't deal with the pain. They would knock you out No problemo. Suz > > I'm going in for root canal attempt #2 at 9:15 Mountain time. It's > > not life-threatening or anything, but they're going to go past where [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Cheers, helen s Helen, I'm one of those weird people on whom neither novacaine nor lidocaine works. Every dental procedure has been done without any pain medication - but worse than that was the needle biopsy I had to have done on a lump in my breast. Nobody will believe me that it doesn't affect me - so they just do the procedure and think I'm screaming because I'm a drama queen. Maybe you have the same problem? Hugs, CatNipped > Helen, I'm one of those weird people on whom neither novacaine nor > lidocaine [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > CatNipped What causes me physical pain is the frequency of the vibration of the drill. I can feel my jaw go numb from the local, but as soon as the drill goes in - pain - acute pain - and it the noise level, the frequency level that is causing it. Yet will any of those licensed butchers believe me??? No, the b*st*rds ;-) I console myself with fantasies of just where I'd be putting the drill on them... and the rusty scalpel... Cheers, helen s ;-) > Helen, I'm one of those weird people on whom neither novacaine nor > lidocaine works. Every dental procedure has been done without any [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > screaming because I'm a drama queen. Maybe you have the same > problem? I don't understand them not believing you ... could you perhaps go shopping for a dentist, before a problem occurs, who will understand this concern and possibly have alternate suggestions? I bet there are drugs they could give you where you wouldn't know *what* was going on! Of course, you'd have to get a ride home. *shudder* I can't imagine going through this without anesthetic. And you had a root canal that way? Oof. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > > Helen, I'm one of those weird people on whom neither novacaine nor > > lidocaine works. Every dental procedure has been done without any [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > *shudder* I can't imagine going through this without anesthetic. And > you had a root canal that way? Oof. *Nobody* believes that this is possible (allergic yes, ineffective no) it seems I must be the *ONLY* person on earth like this (I even challenged them to "test" that I was telling the truth by letting the "poke" me where I was supposed to be numb without me looking - but they said I must have felt the "pressure" not the pain - sheesh!). At least for the root canal they gave me laughing gas. Hugs, CatNipped > *Nobody* believes that this is possible (allergic yes, ineffective > no) it seems I must be the *ONLY* person on earth like this (I even > challenged them to "test" that I was telling the truth by letting > the "poke" me where I was supposed to be numb without me looking - > but they said I must have felt the "pressure" not the pain - > sheesh!). At least for the root canal they gave me laughing gas. Have you seen this link? http://www.dentalfearcentral.com/difficulty_numbing_dentist.html It gives explanations for why it might not work and suggestions for alternatives ... might be a start in finding a way to not be in agony ... Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > > *Nobody* believes that this is possible (allergic yes, ineffective > > no) it seems I must be the *ONLY* person on earth like this (I even [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > It gives explanations for why it might not work and suggestions for > alternatives ... might be a start in finding a way to not be in agony Thanks! But it's not just dental novacaine that's the problem - lidocaine doesn't work on me either. The dental part doesn't bother me too much since I haven't had a cavity in over 40 years (but I *do* need a second root canal and two crowns - I just can't afford them right now since it's about $2,000 out-of-pocket for all three procedures). What bothers me is when I need a local for needle biopsy or stitches. Then there is no "getting it in the right spot" problem - so I just grit my teeth and bear it! :< Hugs, CatNipped > ... >> Have you seen this link? >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > biopsy or stitches. Then there is no "getting it in the right spot" > problem - so I just grit my teeth and bear it! :< There's a particular sentence I thought you would find interesting: "some patients are resistant to the effect of certain local anaesthetics (e. g. lignocaine/lidocaine), the answer is simple - use a different LA solution." I'm betting there's one local anaesthetic that's considered "best in most cases," and that's what doctors and dentists use unless there's a specific reason to do something else. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > > > Helen, I'm one of those weird people on whom neither novacaine nor > > > lidocaine works. Every dental procedure has been done without any [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > CatNipped I have to have laughing gs as well, my jaw never freezes and it hurts incredibly bad, Butyou're right they don't believe the jaw isn't frozen I know it's hard, but please go to the dentist, Helen, this is serious. Best wishes, SignaturePolonca & Soncek > You are a braver woman than I. I'm *terrified* of dentists. Butchers, the > lot of them ;-) As a result of my terror of dentists I have been nursing an [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Cheers, helen s > You are a braver woman than I. I'm *terrified* of dentists. > Butchers, the lot of them ;-) As a result of my terror of dentists I [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > not or do not want to understand that the vibrations of the drill > cause me physical pain, even if I've been given a local... Are there dentists or oral surgeons specializing in phobic patients in England? I have a friend who goes to a dentist who knows how to deal with scared people. It costs far more than the standard rates his insurance will cover, but it's the only way he can get dental work done. I'm wondering if you could go to an oral surgeon and thereby get knocked out ... that's what I did for my wisdom teeth, because I just knew it would be a misery with my small mouth. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > I'm going in for root canal attempt #2 at 9:15 Mountain time. It's > not life-threatening or anything, but they're going to go past where [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > You don't have to send a NG message; if you could just send positive > vibes my way, I'd really appreciate it. Yeouch, sounds painful! Many purrs that this procedure is successful and you don't lose the tooth. -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > > I'm going in for root canal attempt #2 at 9:15 Mountain time. It's > > not life-threatening or anything, but they're going to go past where [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Yeouch, sounds painful! Many purrs that this procedure is successful > and you don't lose the tooth. But if that unhappy event comes to pass, do remember the last words of the judge before his mouth was pried open: "Do you swear to pull the tooth, the whole tooth, and nothing but the tooth?" >> Yeouch, sounds painful! Many purrs that this procedure is >> successful and you don't lose the tooth. > > But if that unhappy event comes to pass, do remember the last words > of the judge before his mouth was pried open: "Do you swear to pull > the tooth, the whole tooth, and nothing but the tooth?" Hah! Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > I'm going in for root canal attempt #2 at 9:15 Mountain time. It's > not life-threatening or anything, but they're going to go past where [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca Purrs on the way. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat. Major yuck! You have our sincerest purrs. Suz&Spicey > Purrs please that this unlikely attempt will result in a successful > location of canal and root canal procedure, so that I don't have to > get the tooth extracted. I hate the idea of losing a tooth > completely. Lots of tooth-saving purrs. :) SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > I'm going in for root canal attempt #2 at 9:15 Mountain time. It's > not life-threatening or anything, but they're going to go past where [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > You don't have to send a NG message; if you could just send positive > vibes my way, I'd really appreciate it. Gagh! Scary. Comforting purrs on the way. > I'm going in for root canal attempt #2 at 9:15 Mountain time. It's > not life-threatening or anything, but they're going to go past where [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > You don't have to send a NG message; if you could just send positive > vibes my way, I'd really appreciate it. Tons of purrs coming your way Monique! I've been through a root canal and it's not fun! Hugs, CatNipped > Tons of purrs coming your way Monique! I've been through a root > canal and it's not fun! Actually, the procedure itself didn't bug me any more than any of my fillings, and less than some. There was no pain except for when he injected the anesthetic. We were just all holding our breath, wondering if he'd ever find the canal. I'm betting I'll be in a lot more pain once the local wears off. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca Lots of purrs and best wishes for the procedure to go really well, SignaturePolonca & Soncek > I'm going in for root canal attempt #2 at 9:15 Mountain time. It's > not life-threatening or anything, but they're going to go past where [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > You don't have to send a NG message; if you could just send positive > vibes my way, I'd really appreciate it. As I'm reading this I'm assuming you're in the chair now -- many good wishes for you! Christine > I'm going in for root canal attempt #2 at 9:15 Mountain time. It's > not life-threatening or anything, but they're going to go past where [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > You don't have to send a NG message; if you could just send positive > vibes my way, I'd really appreciate it. >I'm going in for root canal attempt #2 at 9:15 Mountain time. It's >not life-threatening or anything, but they're going to go past where [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >You don't have to send a NG message; if you could just send positive >vibes my way, I'd really appreciate it. You got it, Monique. As a dentally anxious person who has been through who knows how many root canals, I really feel for you. Purrs on the way. Ginger-lyn Home Pages: http://www.spiritrealm.com/summer/ http://www.angelfire.com/folk/glsummer (homepage & cats) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~summer/index.htm (genealogy) http://www.movieanimals.bravehost.com/ (The Violence Against Animals in Movies Website) > Purrs please that this unlikely attempt will result in a successful > location of canal and root canal procedure, so that I don't have to > get the tooth extracted. I hate the idea of losing a tooth > completely. Well, here I am. Thank so much, everyone, for all the purrs! The procedure was a partial success. The endodontist found all three canals and was able to fill the main one; the other two, which are smaller, he found but wasn't able to work with. They were blocked off, and due to their small size he hopes they are fully calcified, meaning they gave themselves a root canal. He did puncture one of the lesser roots, but he patched it and says it should be okay. Soooo ... he gives me a 75% chance of it all working out and not causing me trouble anymore, as opposed to the 2% chance he gave me before. Because of all of the complications, he wants me to wait 2 months to get a permanent filling instead of the more typical 2 weeks, and he wants me to wait on a crown for six months to see what happens. At that point they'll x-ray the sucker and make a decision from there. The tricky part will be minimize chewing on it for six months. Six months! It's vulnerable while it's not crowned, although he said I could get a temp crown in the meantime to help keep it together. I am to take bunches of NSAIDs for the next week, and I have the Lortab my dentist gave me in case I need it at night. I checked around online and it looks like it's the drug I know as Vicodin. Hopefully the antibiotics my dentist gave me last week will help keep things well-behaved as they heal. I'm just glad the series is done today; it caused a horrible taste in my mouth, not when I swallowed it but an hour or two later. And I had to take them four times a day. I have to give my endodontist tons of credit. It was clearly a difficult procedure for him; he kept trying, and trying, to find everything, and at one point even muttered, "This is so frustrating." I bet it was really frustrating when I finally said (around a bite block and the dental dam) "I need to pee!" and disappeared off to the bathroom, dental dam in place. Looked kinda freaky. Ah well; maybe he needed a break at that point, too. I'm so glad that's not my job; I can't imagine the pressure. One funny thing; because of how far back the tooth is and how small my mouth is, they kept having to retake the final x-ray. I think they took five different images before they finally got the whole tooth. They apologized, but I just told them it's much better to take the time to get it done now than to get a call later and find out I have to come back to the office. One good thing -- normally they ask for a partial payment upfront. Because of my dual coverage, the receptionist didn't want a partial payment; she said in all likelihood it would be fully covered between the two! Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > > Purrs please that this unlikely attempt will result in a successful > > location of canal and root canal procedure, so that I don't have to [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > payment; she said in all likelihood it would be fully covered between > the two! I'm so glad it went well. Hopefully you won't need the pain meds after the novacaine wears off (I didn't, but then I don't ever take pain meds - even for kidney stones - I'm more afraid of my reactions to them than I am of the pain!). Purrs that everything continues to go well. Hugs, CatNipped > I'm so glad it went well. Hopefully you won't need the pain meds > after the novacaine wears off (I didn't, but then I don't ever take > pain meds - even for kidney stones - I'm more afraid of my reactions > to them than I am of the pain!). I'm happy to use OTC stuff, or even prescription if it seems it will help ... the Lortab my dentist gave made me feel dizzy, like my perceptions were a step behind my movements, but as I only took it just before bed, no problem there. I wouldn't take it and try to drive or work, that's for sure! Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Purrs please that this unlikely attempt will result in a successful >> location of canal and root canal procedure, so that I don't have to [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > payment; she said in all likelihood it would be fully covered between > the two! Please make sure you take the pills with food. I have prescription NSAID and it came with such warning. Which I had surgery on my jaws they were wired shut. The only way I ate was by putting food through a food processor. You can minmize chewing this way. When I had root canal years after my jaw surgery, I had trouble keeping my mouth opened for such a long time as I can't open my jaws too wide. Same thing when a crown was put it. I got all kinds of hardware inside to keep my jaws in place. Not a pretty sight on the X-ray. Winnie > Please make sure you take the pills with food. I have prescription > NSAID and it came with such warning. These are just over the counter -- he told me to take ibuprofin or aleve, that sort of thing. The doses are slightly higher than usual; three ibuprofin instead of two, for example. > Which I had surgery on my jaws they were wired shut. The only way I > ate was by putting food through a food processor. You can minmize [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > kinds of hardware inside to keep my jaws in place. Not a pretty sight > on the X-ray. Eek. My mouth is small and my teeth are big; one more reason to hate dental work. But the doctor said I was very good about keeping my mouth wide open. Then again, he put a bite block in! (triangular wedge that keeps you from shutting your mouth) I like them because I know that my mouth tends to close gradually as I'm being worked on. When I had my wisdom teeth out, the surgery was complicated (apparently; I was out cold for it), and it took me forever to recover. For several months afterwards, I could barely open my mouth. Forget about taking a bite out of a burger or a large sandwich. Even spoons were tough. If I remember correctly, they said it was the muscles in my jaw reacting to all the abuse of being stretched for the surgery. I remember being terrified that I'd never be able to open my mouth properly again. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Please make sure you take the pills with food. I have prescription >> NSAID and it came with such warning. > > These are just over the counter -- he told me to take ibuprofin or > aleve, that sort of thing. The doses are slightly higher than usual; > three ibuprofin instead of two, for example. I got prescription on Aleve (it is only available with prescription in Canada) and the pills came with a warning to take with food. A friend who is a pharmacist also warned not take it for longer than 10 days in a row. >> Which I had surgery on my jaws they were wired shut. The only way I >> ate was by putting food through a food processor. You can minmize [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > surgery. I remember being terrified that I'd never be able to open my > mouth properly again. Oh yes I got a wedge too when major dental work was done on me. The oral surgeon removed 2 wisdom teeth while he 'rearranged' my jaw. I was in the hospital for 3 days with a bandaged head. But the pain wasn't bad at all. I didn't even take much of any pain med. It was just hard to talk or eat solid food when I couldn't open my mouth. I remember after the surgery the suregeon told me to massage my jaw muscles. Winnie > I got prescription on Aleve (it is only available with prescription > in Canada) and the pills came with a warning to take with food. A > friend who is a pharmacist also warned not take it for longer than > 10 days in a row. Interesting. I use Aleve a fair amount of the time; I particularly like to take it the morning of an all-day activity, like skiing, in order to keep my knees from getting too upset. I don't understand why it would be prescription-only when ibuprofin isn't; at least here, it's marketed at filling the same niche as ibuprofin, just with a longer duration. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > > I got prescription on Aleve (it is only available with prescription > > in Canada) and the pills came with a warning to take with food. A [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > it's marketed at filling the same niche as ibuprofin, just with a > longer duration. I'd have to retrieve the specifics, but there are many long-term treatments with Aleve. In fact, in one of the major clinical trials that associated Vioxx with increased cardiac risks, naproxen was used as the control arm of the randomized controlled trial. There was some argument that naproxen has a cardiac protective effect. I don't think so, but... I know of some drugs not available in Canada, and it's mostly a marketing decision. > > Please make sure you take the pills with food. I have prescription > > NSAID and it came with such warning. > > These are just over the counter -- he told me to take ibuprofin or > aleve, that sort of thing. The doses are slightly higher than usual; > three ibuprofin instead of two, for example. The FDA seems to be relaxing a rather insane rule they used when they first started making prescription drugs over-the-counter: the OTC dose was one-half the prescription dose. In the specific case of ibuprofen, it only has pain-relieving properties at the recommended dose of 400mg three times per day. The usual prescribed dose that gives anti-inflammatory activity is 800mg three times a day. 600mg _may_ give anti-inflammatory effects, or just more pain relief. Naproxen (Aleve, etc.)'s medical dose is 500mg twice a day. When I just bought some for my sprained wrists, it said start with two 220mg tablets, and then one thereafter. I am taking two twice a day, thank you, and some additional acetaminophen if the pain breaks through. I'm also using capsaicin cream. While I hate to go into do as I say, not as I do, the lower doses are there for something of a reason. The most common side effects of these drugs is stomach irritation, and, if that happens, change to a different type of drug. For some types of pain, especially headache, Tylenol/acetaminophen/paracetamol is superior to the NSAIDs like ibuprofen and naproxen. Acetaminophen has zero anti-inflammatory activity; it only operates in the brain, not in the tissues. Potentially, extended use of these drugs should have periodic liver and kidney function tests. There is more and more evidence that even very light alcohol consumption -- it was originally thought heavy drinking only -- is dangerous with acetaminophen. There is less evidence of problems with the NSAIDs, but I personally think there is enough evidence such that I will drink at all only with aspirin. So, yes, 3 or 4 200mg ibuprofen tablets three times a day, or 2 220mg naproxen tablets twice a day, is rather safe. It is going over some very conservative safety recommendations. You Have Been Warned. > Naproxen (Aleve, etc.)'s medical dose is 500mg twice a day. When I just > bought some for my sprained wrists, it said start with two 220mg > tablets, and then one thereafter. I am taking two twice a day, thank > you, and some additional acetaminophen if the pain breaks through. I'm > also using capsaicin cream. Now just how did you sprain those wrists. > > Naproxen (Aleve, etc.)'s medical dose is 500mg twice a day. When I just > > bought some for my sprained wrists, it said start with two 220mg [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Now just how did you sprain those wrists. Tripped over some garden edging at night. Managed a partial judo break fall, which saved my face, but I landed in sort of a pushup position and only managed to roll. If you really want to know, it was more of a sprain of the carpal-metacarpal joint of the right thumb and assorted sprains of the lateral tendons of the left, with minor bruising of the left ulnar nerve. (slightly puzzled) > > > Naproxen (Aleve, etc.)'s medical dose is 500mg twice a day. When I just > > > bought some for my sprained wrists, it said start with two 220mg [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > (slightly puzzled) lol, this does not impress me, you think you have a greater knowledge than most, yet you're a bore. Perhaps if you weren't so light on your metatarsals this would not have happened. > > > > Naproxen (Aleve, etc.)'s medical dose is 500mg twice a day. When I > just [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > most, yet you're a bore. Perhaps if you weren't so light on your > metatarsals this would not have happened. It had not been my attempt to impress you. I answered what seemed an irrelevant personal question. Now that you have given your commentary, rest assured that I shall do my very best not to impress you, since were I judged positively by someone of your apparent juvenile venom, I might be doing something wrong by my standards of conduct. Do have a nice day. >> > Please make sure you take the pills with food. I have prescription >> > NSAID and it came with such warning. [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > naproxen tablets twice a day, is rather safe. It is going over some very > conservative safety recommendations. You Have Been Warned. I got a prescription for 550 mg Naproxen 2X a day. I've been taking it for years for cramps. One with breakfast, and one with dinner for about 3 days every month. Also took them when I hurt my back. Now I take it occasionally for bursitis. These pills are Huge. > The FDA seems to be relaxing a rather insane rule they used when > they first started making prescription drugs over-the-counter: the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > day. 600mg _may_ give anti-inflammatory effects, or just more pain > relief. Interesting. I do take Aleve or Ibuprofin before strenuous workouts to avoid knee pain; I always thought that was because the inflammation was reduced, but I never take more than two Ibuprofin. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > > The FDA seems to be relaxing a rather insane rule they used when > > they first started making prescription drugs over-the-counter: the [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > to avoid knee pain; I always thought that was because the inflammation > was reduced, but I never take more than two Ibuprofin. You make a very interesting point -- the preventive use. I don't remember any studies on the use of these drugs in preventing muscle cramps, but their use in preventing menstrual cramps, at a fairly low dosage, is well established. In general, what these drugs, a member of a class called NSAIDs, blocks the synthesis of certain molecules, mostly prostaglandins, that cause muscle tissue, both voluntary and smooth, to go into spasm -- the spasm releases pain transmitters such as bradykinin. During the cramping phase of a menstrual cycle, certain prostaglandins cause the uterine muscles to contract. Starting low-dose ibuprofen, and taking it at regular intervals before cramping starts, desensitizes the uterus and keeps the cramping-inflammation-cramping cycle damped down. >> Interesting. I do take Aleve or Ibuprofin before strenuous >> workouts to avoid knee pain; I always thought that was because the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > cramps, but their use in preventing menstrual cramps, at a fairly > low dosage, is well established. In this case, I mean joint pain. At least, what I perceive as joint pain. A few years ago, when I played soccer with my company, the difference in pain walking up stairs after a game was pronounced. Without having taken ibuprofin first, I could barely make it; with the ibuprofin, it was much less painful, though still not fun. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > Interesting. I do take Aleve or Ibuprofin before strenuous workouts > to avoid knee pain; I always thought that was because the inflammation > was reduced, but I never take more than two Ibuprofin. Over on this side of the pond, we can buy ibuprofen gel and diclofenac gel over the counter. If I've got a long cycle ride coming up, I find either (preferrably diclofenac) gel rubbed into the legs before the start works wonders for them. When we did the Tour of Normandy, one of the guys had achilles tendon problems - he swears the application of diclofenac gel kept him going. Cheers, helen s > Over on this side of the pond, we can buy ibuprofen gel and > diclofenac gel over the counter. If I've got a long cycle ride > coming up, I find either (preferrably diclofenac) gel rubbed into > the legs before the start works wonders for them. When we did the > Tour of Normandy, one of the guys had achilles tendon problems - he > swears the application of diclofenac gel kept him going. Oooh, that sounds wonderful. I know there's a topical anti-inflammatory you can get here; I think it's herbal and I know it starts with an A, but I can't recall the name right now. I've never heard of either gel you mention, but I will definitely keep an eye out. Topical knee relief sounds absolutely blissful. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Over on this side of the pond, we can buy ibuprofen gel and >> diclofenac gel over the counter. If I've got a long cycle ride [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >anti-inflammatory you can get here; I think it's herbal and I know it >starts with an A, but I can't recall the name right now. Arnica? Or is that just for bruising? SignatureCathi >>Oooh, that sounds wonderful. I know there's a topical >>anti-inflammatory you can get here; I think it's herbal and I know >>it starts with an A, but I can't recall the name right now. >> > Arnica? Or is that just for bruising? That's the stuff! Thanks. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca >> Purrs please that this unlikely attempt will result in a successful >> location of canal and root canal procedure, so that I don't have to [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > off, and due to their small size he hopes they are fully calcified, > meaning they gave themselves a root canal. Glad you are okay. Cheers, helen s Continued purrs and best wishes for everything to work out fine for you, Monique, SignaturePolonca & Soncek >> Well, here I am. Thank so much, everyone, for all the purrs! > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > causing me trouble anymore, as opposed to the 2% chance he gave me > before. <snip> |
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