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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / July 2005Help Stop Drive-Through Killing
Please urge your U.S. senators and representative to crack down on the "hunting" of helpless animals in cages. If you don't know what a canned hunt is, you're not alone. The folks who run these operations don't want people like you to see them -- ever. That's because the operators of canned hunts charge trophy hunters a fee to shoot captive, exotic animals at close range. Many of these so-called hunters have little experience with a rifle. The animal suffering can be extreme. Urge your U.S. senators and representative to crack down on the more than 1,000 commercial canned hunting operations across the country, which allow trophy hunters to kill exotic animals such as African lions, giraffes and blackbuck antelope who never even have a chance to escape. There is neither sportsmanship here nor ethics, only a desire to make money off the killing of captive animals. Sign this petition: http://www.care2.com/go/z/25444 Ask your senators and representative to co-sponsor the Sportsmanship in Hunting Act of 2005 to halt the interstate traffic of exotic animals for the purpose of hunting and trophy collecting. http://www.care2.com/go/z/25444 I am so often shocked that people actually kill penned animals for fun. I think condoning violence against the helpless hurts not just the animals, but society as a whole. Please help right this wrong today: http://www.care2.com/go/z/25444 I've signed. Jeez, as if human beings haven't already done ENOUGH to endanger wild animals....Too depressing that some cowardly yahoo wants to shoot some poor creature who has already been taken into captivity! Melissa If you must hunt for pleasure, go get a license to hunt it in its own territory. Take a spear or bow...what the natives use. And realize that it might well take YOU as a trophy. People who hunt caged animals with high powered weapons reek of coward. (now has Megadeth's "Countdown to Extinction" in my head.) --Fil > If you must hunt for pleasure, go get a license to hunt it in its own > territory. Take a spear or bow...what the natives use. And realize [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > --Fil That's why when I signed, I stated that I wanted to see Ted Nugent's name on there somewhere - he hunts, with bow, and not for "sport" but for food! And he's taught his kids the same.  SignatureThe ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)© email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep >> If you must hunt for pleasure, go get a license to hunt it in its own >> territory. Take a spear or bow...what the natives use. And realize [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > name on there somewhere - he hunts, with bow, and not for "sport" but > for food! And he's taught his kids the same. I'm ambivalent on the "hunting for food" thing for many reasons. I do understand it... my ex-fiance, Ray, was a bow hunter, only in season. He'd have the venison processed and packaged and use it. He *never* hung the head or pelt on any wall; he despised the "trophy" thing. But then again he was raised dirt poor on a bayou island off the coast of south Louisiana. They had to go to another island to find a store for staples like flour, sugar, salt, pepper and rice. His dad and the boys in the family *had* to hunt for food. Wasn't uncommon to have venison, oppossum, racoon, rabbit, squirrel. His mother *had* to have a garden and his sisters tended it with her. He was taught not to waste and certainly didn't go around bragging about killing an animal. It was how they had to live; modern day pioneers, if you will. On the other hand, someone like Ted Nugent. I'll admit I don't know much about Ted except I like his music and he hunts. Okay, I applaud the principle but was he raised like Ray was? Or does Ted really enjoy the "sport" even although he utilizes the kill for food, thus trying to present a higher moral ground about hunting? It's not like he can't afford to go to a supermarket ;) Jill I don't understand the "sport" in killing anything, but then I wouldn't eat it anyway - my boss hunts for "sport" and calls it a "gentlemanly pursuit", what's gentlemanly about it? Blood junkies one and all. > I don't understand the "sport" in killing anything, but then I wouldn't In my book, if you can drink a beer while doing it, it's not a sport. Period. :) SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > > I don't understand the "sport" in killing anything, but then I wouldn't > > In my book, if you can drink a beer while doing it, it's not a sport. > Period. :) :) Are you sure you live in Texas? >>> I don't understand the "sport" in killing anything, but then I >>> wouldn't [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > :) Are you sure you live in Texas? Somehow I can picture Victor with a beer but I can't picture him with a gun :) Jill > >>> I don't understand the "sport" in killing anything, but then I > >>> wouldn't [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Somehow I can picture Victor with a beer but I can't picture him with a gun > :) Me either. I am just playing. I remember the guys with the trucks with the gun racks on the back and the beers in one hand driving home from work when I was in Houston. Victor, is it still legal there to drink a beer in the care on the way home from work? They used to sell individual beers in convenience stores and the law had some provisions that said if they stopped you and found a whole bunch of empties and you were drunk, it was illegal, but to drink a single beer was just fine. I was a child at the time, so I may have gotten this wrong. > "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message >>Somehow I can picture Victor with a beer but I can't picture him with a gun We have a bb-gun, but I have no idea where it is. Or where the bb's are. > work when I was in Houston. Victor, is it still legal there to drink a beer > in > the care on the way home from work? They used to sell individual beers Nope. The legislature finally outlawed open alcohol containers in cars about 4 or 6 years ago. SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > > "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > >>Somehow I can picture Victor with a beer but I can't picture him with a gun > > We have a bb-gun, but I have no idea where it is. Or where the bb's are. Ha! You're the same kind of gun owner as me. Except we know where the gun is. In the gun safe. But we haven't got a clue where the key is. We lost it when we moved. Sherry > > > "jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> wrote in message > > >>Somehow I can picture Victor with a beer but I can't picture him with a gun [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > gun is. In the gun safe. But we haven't got a clue where the key is. We > lost it when we moved. lol! >>> If you must hunt for pleasure, go get a license to hunt it in its >>> own territory. Take a spear or bow...what the natives use. And [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > > Jill Jill, you make very many valid statements. I guess think of those things. In no way did I mean to belittle anyone who *had* to hunt for food (where would we be if our own ancestors hadn't hunted...?). But, the way I see it, Ted is a man who could *afford* these cannned hunts, and *could* have a couple of lion (or whatever) pelts hanging on his walls. But he doesn't (as far as I know). Maybe things have changed since I read that article in Field & Stream (not sure when it was published (probably 20+ years ago), but Ted actually wrote it, it wasn't just about him), but I get the impression that he's a man that has seen the "blast-the-dritter-and stick-what's-left-of-the-carcass-on-the-wall syndome" first-hand, and has rejected it whole-heartedly. He speaks out against them, condemns them. If he does have critter-remains hanging on his walls, you can be that what isn't on the wall, was eaten by him and/or his family (except the bones). And yeah, he can afford to go grocery shopping - could probably buy a couple of stores to boot ;) Just my opinion, be it humble or not ;) SignatureThe ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)© email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep Sorry about all the mis-spellings and dropped words - I'm *still* not awake - need to get another Dew ;) >>>> If you must hunt for pleasure, go get a license to hunt it in its >>>> own territory. Take a spear or bow...what the natives use. And [quoted text clipped - 60 lines] > email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com > http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep > >>> That's why when I signed, I stated that I wanted to see Ted Nugent's > >>> name on there somewhere - he hunts, with bow, and not for "sport" > >>> but for food! And he's taught his kids the same. > >> > >> I'm ambivalent on the "hunting for food" thing for many reasons. I don't see a big difference between hunting it for food or buying meat in a grocery store. Both require the death of an animal, and IMHO, if you kill it yourself, you have more respect for it. (My father raises beef and pork, which we would butcher and eat. We know they lived decent lives, with room to run, and natural food not crap full of antibiotics, and we killed them as painlessly as possible. Supermarket meat scares me. Who knows what it looked like when it was alive? What it ate? How it was treated? What was done to preserve it once it died?) --Fil > I don't see a big difference between hunting it for food or buying meat > in a grocery store. Both require the death of an animal, and IMHO, if [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > alive? What it ate? How it was treated? What was done to preserve it > once it died?) A fine book that addresses these issues is "The Pig Who Sang to the Moon" - must reading for any carnivore. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0345452828 (by the author of several other excellent works on animals) See also "Spoiled: The Dangerous Truth about a Food Chain Gone Haywire" http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/014027555X >>> That's why when I signed, I stated that I wanted to see Ted Nugent's >>> name on there somewhere - he hunts, with bow, and not for "sport" >>> but for food! And he's taught his kids the same. >> >> I'm ambivalent on the "hunting for food" thing for many reasons. (snipped self) >> On the other hand, someone like Ted Nugent. I'll admit I don't know >> much about Ted except I like his music and he hunts. Okay, I applaud [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > hunts, and *could* have a couple of lion (or whatever) pelts hanging > on his walls. But he doesn't (as far as I know). Think about his era. It makes sense Ted Nugent wouldn't like the idea of canned hunts because he's an old hippie :) > And yeah, he can afford to go grocery shopping - could probably buy a > couple of stores to boot ;) I think it would be a hoot to shop at "Nugent's" LOL Uh, what's that over in the herb section? And why are there so many different kinds of chips and dip?! > Just my opinion, be it humble or not ;) > If you must hunt for pleasure, go get a license to hunt it in its own > territory. Take a spear or bow...what the natives use. And realize [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > --Fil Oh, please, no. I see too many yay-hoos already who try to go out and play Conan the Barbarian with a bow & arrow, or even crossbows. They don't know what they're doing; they simply wound the poor animal and are too lazy and stupid to then track it and finish the job. The poor thing suffers until it finally dies from infection or loss of blood. Sherry |
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