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jmcquown - 27 Jun 2005 19:35 GMT I feel better, really I do, after I slept a bit more and took some aspirin. I know I'm only postponing the inevitable but I just can't bring myself to go sit in a hospital waiting room today. Waiting for what? Absolution? Maybe tomorrow. Thank you all for caring. I'll keep you posted.
Jill
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W. Leong - 27 Jun 2005 19:39 GMT I don't blame you. It is difficult to drag yourself on a Monday to a hospital if you are feeling O.K. How about just making an appt to see your own doctor? You do have a GP, don't you? That way (s)he can refer you to any necessary tests.
Winnie
>I feel better, really I do, after I slept a bit more and took some aspirin. > I know I'm only postponing the inevitable but I just can't bring myself to > go sit in a hospital waiting room today. Waiting for what? Absolution? > Maybe tomorrow. Thank you all for caring. I'll keep you posted. > > Jill Hopitus - 27 Jun 2005 19:42 GMT Suggestion because I really care: instead of the ER (LOL where I used to work) isn't there a nearby low-cost "walk-in" type clinic you could go to (much, much less cost!) where they - as a matter of routine - take your B/P, temp., pulse, etc.and give you some insight to your longtime ongoing pain? Note: even walkins wait much less time than in any ER....
>I feel better, really I do, after I slept a bit more and took some aspirin. > I know I'm only postponing the inevitable but I just can't bring myself to > go sit in a hospital waiting room today. Waiting for what? Absolution? > Maybe tomorrow. Thank you all for caring. I'll keep you posted. > > Jill CatNipped - 27 Jun 2005 19:50 GMT > Suggestion because I really care: instead of the ER (LOL where I used to > work) isn't there a nearby low-cost "walk-in" type clinic you could go to > (much, much less cost!) where they - as a matter of routine - take your B/P, > temp., pulse, etc.and give you some insight to your longtime ongoing pain? > Note: even walkins wait much less time than in any ER.... Also, most doctor's offices now-a-days have their own ECG machines and a doctor's visit costs a lot less than an emergency room visit. You could at least set your mind to rest about a possible heart problem.
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> >I feel better, really I do, after I slept a bit more and took some aspirin. > > I know I'm only postponing the inevitable but I just can't bring myself to > > go sit in a hospital waiting room today. Waiting for what? Absolution? > > Maybe tomorrow. Thank you all for caring. I'll keep you posted. > > > > Jill Howard C. Berkowitz - 27 Jun 2005 19:57 GMT > I feel better, really I do, after I slept a bit more and took some > aspirin. > I know I'm only postponing the inevitable but I just can't bring myself > to > go sit in a hospital waiting room today. Waiting for what? Absolution? > Maybe tomorrow. Thank you all for caring. I'll keep you posted. While I hope you will go in, taking aspirin -- not ibuprofen, Tylenol/acetaminophen/paracetamol, or naproxen -- is a very, very good idea. While 81mg/day is adequate for maintenance of cardiac benefits, at this point, I'd be sure to take at least 1 full-strength 325mg tablet a day until you are evaluated.
If you get a recurrence of pain, immediately CHEW one 325 mg tablet. (I know, it won't taste good. Think of yourself as being pilled and you aren't responsible for it). If something is going on, aspirin can help limit damage.
W. Leong - 27 Jun 2005 20:03 GMT >> I feel better, really I do, after I slept a bit more and took some >> aspirin. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > aren't responsible for it). If something is going on, aspirin can help > limit damage. Naproxen should be taken with food to avoid irritating the stomach. Same for aspirin, I think.
Winnie
Howard C. Berkowitz - 27 Jun 2005 20:59 GMT > >> I feel better, really I do, after I slept a bit more and took some > >> aspirin. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > for > aspirin, I think. But naproxen does not have the cardiac protective effect of aspirin. That's why I was saying aspirin and only aspirin.
Brief explanation of what aspirin does for the heart: everyone has some degree of blood vessel narrowing from cholesterol plaques. When people get into vascular trouble, the vessel is blocked, or, even worse, a plaque and/or clot tears loose and winds up blocking a vital blood vessel, as in the brain or heart.
The strongest chemical known for causing blood vessels is thromboxane, which is released when platelets rupture. Now, in the event of major trauma, platelets rupturing and causing both clotting and clamping down of the blood supply to the area is a Good Thing.
Having platelets hit a cholesterol plaque, rupturing, and causing thromboxane-induced clamping down of a relatively normal blood vessel (i.e., vasoconstriction) is a Bad Thing when it happens, for example, in the heart.
Aspirin inactivates a partial amount of the thromboxane release system, enough to desensitize platelets not to burst on plaques, but still be adequate (maybe extending bleeding a little) to have proper clotting after a significant injury. Only aspirin, of the over-the-counter painkillers, has this effect on platelets. If anyone cares, chemically, it's because only aspirin has an active acetyl group that links to and blocks some of the thromboxane precursors.
Yes, if anyone who understands the details is reading, I have simplified thromboxane A and B forms, etc.
Pat - 27 Jun 2005 20:12 GMT > While I hope you will go in, taking aspirin -- not ibuprofen, > Tylenol/acetaminophen/paracetamol, or naproxen -- is a very, very good [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > aren't responsible for it). If something is going on, aspirin can help > limit damage. My whole life, whenever I have taken aspirin, even as a small child, I let it dissolve completely in my mouth, then chew it. I think it's easier on the stomach that way. I have never taken any non-prescription pain reliever aside from aspirin, and probably never will. I'm sure they taste unbearably bad....
Howard C. Berkowitz - 27 Jun 2005 21:06 GMT > > While I hope you will go in, taking aspirin -- not ibuprofen, > > Tylenol/acetaminophen/paracetamol, or naproxen -- is a very, very good [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > unbearably > bad.... Probably comparable but less sour. Aspirin is a fine drug for people who can tolerate its effects on the stomach, and don't have other side effects such as ringing in the ears. It's probably the best fever reducer. In general, it should not be used in children under 14 without specific medical direction. If you have bleeding disorders (e.g., hemophilia) or are expecting surgery or a very hard workout, it probably should be avoided.
Acetaminophen/paracetamol is apt to be best for headache and for not upsetting the stomach. As opposed to the others, it has zero effect on inflammation. It's safe in children under 14. There is more and more data that any alcohol consumption with it is dangerous to the liver.
Ibuprofen and naproxen are the best for preventing as well as treating menstrual cramps. They are also probably best for muscle pain. At the over-the-counter dose, naproxen is anti-inflammatory, but you have to double the dose to get ibuprofen to have an anti-inflammatory effect. Naproxen needs to be taken less frequently, and is probably a little more effective. I believe naproxen is still on prescription in Canada, and I don't know if this is true for other countries.
I keep all three classes around: aspirin for regular cardiac care, acetaminophen for headaches, and naproxen for inflammation.
Enfilade - 27 Jun 2005 21:30 GMT Skipping out on a humanvet visit? You are a naughty bittie....we are worried about you. If there is something wrong it is better to start dealing with it right away. Your cat would WANT you to go to the humanvet and get looked at!
--Fil
Monique Y. Mudama - 28 Jun 2005 01:25 GMT > I keep all three classes around: aspirin for regular cardiac care, > acetaminophen for headaches, and naproxen for inflammation. Here, here! I love 'em all.
I choose between aleve and ibuprofen depending on how long I want it to last ...
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Jane - 29 Jun 2005 14:08 GMT >> I keep all three classes around: aspirin for regular cardiac care, >> acetaminophen for headaches, and naproxen for inflammation. > >Here, here! I love 'em all. Me too!
>I choose between aleve and ibuprofen depending on how long I want it >to last ... I don't have such choices. They are all for different headaches. Aspirin is taken every day 'just because I'm over 40' (by doctor recommendataion). Ibuprofen works on sinus headaches only, and naproxen works on migraines only. Tylenol works on the 'weekend headaches', which have no known cause yet. Heaven forbid I should mis-read a migraine and take ibuprofen instead! (they sometimes start out feeling alike). You can't take naproxen and ibuprofen together, so I'm stuck suffering with the migraine for 4 hours before I can take naproxen. Yeah, I'm a confirmed druggie. You should SEE my collection. It fills a whole suitcase.
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jmcquown - 27 Jun 2005 20:44 GMT >> I feel better, really I do, after I slept a bit more and took some >> aspirin. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > at this point, I'd be sure to take at least 1 full-strength 325mg > tablet a day until you are evaluated. I already consume two 325mg tablets a day due to arthritis in my hands. The SSDI doctor was able to confirm I do indeed have arthritis in my hands. This is what kills me... I never claimed arthritis as a debilitating illness, it was more an offhand comment to the case-worker. It hadn't been diagnosed by anyone but me. Suddenly it became 50% of the focus on my case. Um... what about all the other crap that is wrong with me? You know, the stuff I put on the forms? LOL
> If you get a recurrence of pain, immediately CHEW one 325 mg tablet. > (I know, it won't taste good. Think of yourself as being pilled and > you aren't responsible for it). If something is going on, aspirin > can help limit damage. I will still go to the doctor, I just can't bring myself to do it today. I'm nuts, I know. But I went to take a bath and there was a huge palmetto bug in the tub which I had to grab and flush... that grossed me out! After that I couldn't bring myself to step into the shower. So I took 2 aspirin and I'll call myself in the morning :)
Jill
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