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Gracecat - 27 Jun 2005 03:40 GMT
I'm more pagan than I am Christian these days but it was still bittersweet
to read that Billy Graham may  have  preached his final revival sermon
tonight.

He wasn't spotless clean, but he was cleaner than most and kept a better
message than some.

Grace
sriddles@aol.com - 27 Jun 2005 04:01 GMT
> I'm more pagan than I am Christian these days but it was still bittersweet
> to read that Billy Graham may  have  preached his final revival sermon
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> Grace

Billy Graham, from all accounts, is just a good man. He managed to
remain above reproach even when the Jim Bakker, and all those other
televangelists got caught doing who knows what and then some. And he's
an icon for our generation. It will be sad to see him retire. But man,
he's old and I'm sure doesn't have the stamina for a traveling
evangelist anymore. How old is he, anyway?

Sherry
Mary - 27 Jun 2005 04:04 GMT
> > I'm more pagan than I am Christian these days but it was still bittersweet
> > to read that Billy Graham may  have  preached his final revival sermon
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> Sherry

86. And what a great face he has, still!
Gracecat - 27 Jun 2005 04:08 GMT
>> I'm more pagan than I am Christian these days but it was still
>> bittersweet
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> Sherry

True enough Sherry.

I remember that he got roped into some of the Nixon tapes voicing a protest
over the Jewish community for something or other. Though I never did hear
what came of it.

But beyond that whisper of reproach, he stayed on top. And his son appears
to be leading a new Graham saga. I think their family is immensely good for
TV Evangelism. I'm going to hate to see him go.

Grace
jmcquown - 27 Jun 2005 08:06 GMT
>>> I'm more pagan than I am Christian these days but it was still
>>> bittersweet
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> Grace

I think I missed something.  Did Billy Graham die?  Or are we just preparing
for him to die like we did the last Pope?  (Not trying to offend anyone,
just curious... I've never paid much attention to either televangelists nor
to the Pope's)

Jill
pmendhall - 27 Jun 2005 08:12 GMT
> I think I missed something.  Did Billy Graham die?  Or are we just preparing
> for him to die like we did the last Pope?  (Not trying to offend anyone,
> just curious... I've never paid much attention to either televangelists nor
> to the Pope's)

He just held his last revival in a career that spanned 6 decades.  Wow!
Apparently he has cancer and Parkinson's, so from a certain view point, we
are preparing for him to die like the former Pope.  I find it an interesting
coincidence that both have/had Parkinson's.

Diane
Kreisleriana - 27 Jun 2005 14:37 GMT
>> I'm more pagan than I am Christian these days but it was still bittersweet
>> to read that Billy Graham may  have  preached his final revival sermon
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>Sherry

Some of us cannot forget his comments about Jews in a notorious
conversation with Richard Nixon.

Theresa
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sriddles@aol.com - 27 Jun 2005 16:03 GMT
> Some of us cannot forget his comments about Jews in a notorious
> conversation with Richard Nixon.
>
> Theresa

That certainly sounds like a black spot on his career, I agree. Somehow
I don't remember that.  I'll have to google.

Sherry
Gracecat - 27 Jun 2005 17:11 GMT
>> Some of us cannot forget his comments about Jews in a notorious
>> conversation with Richard Nixon.
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> Sherry

It didn't get alot of publicity I think Sherry. I only heard it mentioned
once or twice during the 15 minute fame that media gives things.

Roughly, from what I remember he was plotting with Nixon on how to remove or
prevent the Jewish community from getting a stronger foothold in the
economy... maybe... Business leaders, politicians etc such as that.

But it's been a while and I'm foggy on the details.

Grace
Kreisleriana - 27 Jun 2005 17:46 GMT
>> Some of us cannot forget his comments about Jews in a notorious
>> conversation with Richard Nixon.
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>
>Sherry

It was among the many embarassing moments for Nixon caught on tape.
And damningly for Graham, he himself brought up the subject of the
"stranglehold" " the Jews" had over the media.  He and Haldeman and
Nixon went down a kind of "checklist" of media figures, and noting
which were (accurately or inaccurately) Jewish.  "Dan Rather?"  :P

Graham referred to some Jewish media figures he was on "friendly"
terms, like A. M. Rosenthal, of the New York Times, but sdded that
they "have no idea how I really feel."  He said the "good thing" about
Nixon's reelection, was that maybe they could now "do something" about
them. :P

Theresa
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sriddles@aol.com - 27 Jun 2005 19:13 GMT
> It was among the many embarassing moments for Nixon caught on tape.
> And damningly for Graham, he himself brought up the subject of the
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> Theresa

That *was* pretty awful things to say, esp. for a spiritual leader.
Hopefully Graham's attitude, along with everyone else's on many matters
re: Jews, minorities, et al. changed in the last 40 years. I still
cringe at some of the things I remember hearing my parents say.

Sherry
Paul Olson - 27 Jun 2005 15:47 GMT
> Billy Graham, from all accounts, is just a good man. He managed to
> remain above reproach even when the Jim Bakker, and all those other
> televangelists got caught doing who knows what and then some.

For many many years, Graham's operation was headquartered here in
Minnesota, where I live.  Although I disagree with him on several
theological details, he truly has been a man of integrity.  Once I read
that he had a rule, never to be in a room alone with a woman (other
than hiw wife) with the door closed.  Not that he was "tempted," but so
as not to risk perceptions of anything going on.
 
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