Who has suggested it was whimpering? I'm shocked - I sure never saw it
as such. Jeez, you were looking at major surgery that could have had
seriously negative outcome. Your posts never seemed like whimpering,
never seemed inappropriate. We're a large family here, and this is where
us cat-loving people come to discuss our cats and our non-cat related
concerns. Things that concern any one of us are appropriate for
discussion here, as are issues where any one of us needs support. I sure
hope that nobody has suggested otherwise.

Please, continue to come here with any concerns where you feel a need
for support. That's what we're here for, isn't it? That, and discussing
how to better serve our feline masters :)

Dan

{{{{{{Christina}}}}}}  Of course it's not whimpering!  My god!  Who would
say such a thing to you over a thing so precious as LIFE?

Jill

Certainally not!!  You were scared to pieces and I would have been too -
everything I read (may have missed some?) showed great concern for you
and I saw an outpouring of support as well as helpful suggestions for your
furred and feathered babies...........Lorna

No, of course not Christina.  I know the post you're talking about, and I
know why it was posted, but look at it like this... we're like a big family
here (in fact I think I'm closer to most of you than I am to a lot of my
blood relatives), and family members sometimes have spats and say things in
the heat of the moment they later regret.

Personally I think what happened is, you misunderstood Jill's situation (she
lives far away from her long lost love, met him in *her* city for the art
show, and had *no* way to go and search for his dog - also, well see
below*), and it seemed like you were chiding her for something that she
couldn't control.  Anyway I think that post was just in defense of Jill more
than an attack on you.

I know there have been lots of times I needed a crowbar to get my foot out
of my mouth, I don't know of anybody alive who hasn't said something they've
later regretted.

Please, don't let one post upset you or get you worried about how the group
feels about you.  This is the one safe haven we all have where we can come
with our troubles, about cats or anything else, and not worry about what we
post or how we sound - we can be assured of love an acceptance.  So don't
worry, we don't think you were whining - I, for one, would have been
screaming in panic had I been in your position!

* Years ago I was married to an abusive alcoholic.  People invariably would
come to *ME* to complain about his behavior like *I* could control what he
said or did.  It was extremely frustrating to be held accountable for
someone else's actions.  I know this isn't at all the same, but still Jill
can't be held responsible for something her LLL does or does not do.
Ultimately every person is responsible for what they say and do and it
doesn't help to chide someone else about it.

Hugs,

CatNipped

Who would say that??? =o(

No, Tweed. I don't feel you were whimpering, nor did I feel it was in
any way inappropriate.  I thought you had every right to ask for
courage and support when facing the scary possibility of a serious bout
of cancer.  Believe me, in your shoes I'd have done exactly the same
thing!

{{{Christina}}}

Melissa

Good God no! Whoever you heard that from feels that way but **I** certainly
don't!! Trust me, that that must be a very singular feeling, because for
heavens sake it certainly is NOT a group feeling. Please do not take it as
such.

Christina,

If you found out that someone said something like that, then it's their
prob. and not yours.  I'm so considerate of health probs., scares, and
terminal illnesses.  Why?  B/c my mom has lung cancer, and we find out
tomorrow if it's traveled to her brain.  I'm scared to death, and I know she
is right this very moment.  I just posted in the stop-smoking group.  I
suppose I whined big time in a sense.  But so effin' what.  That place, just
like this place is full of loving people who want nothing best for us all.

As far as I'm concerned, your fears were warranted and ARE warranted.  And
I'm sure everyone agrees.  If you feel like yelling, whining, crying or
moaning in here, I for one am listening.

I wish you peace and purrs.....  {{{Tweed}}}!!!

Absolutely not.  I can't imagine why anyone would have that reaction.
Whoever it was, you have just described a particularly uncaring,
self-centered individual.  Ignore 'em.

MaryL

*Who* said you were whimpering???

You've just been through a terrible surgery (my BIL went through abdominal
surgery recently), and are frightened that you will get a death sentance (or
maybe already have).  If you want to "whimper" here and get some emotional
support, go right ahead!  We *do* support one & other here.

Well, I did some searching, and it wasn't who I *thought* it would be
(someone I plonked years ago, despite having good advice re: cats, but her
abusive language and striking out at everyone that even disagreed with
her,... well, I coulnd't take it any more), so that surprised me.  But then
again, this "culprit" doesn't post very much here - not as much as some of
the rest of us ;)

IMHO  Whoever made a statement like that has never been hurt (as yet),.The
time will eventually come and then she/he will learn the hard way.

Purrs for your continued healing.   MLB

Dear Tweed, you should know from all the replies to your posts of your
fearful future, that most everyone here loves and supports you. Many
of us have been down the road of fear and understand how you felt. If
one or two people say you are whining, that is just their narrow
perception. You are loved and valued here by nearly everyone. Hugs,

--
CATherine

[[I hadn't realised that my posts for support through my (perhaps) terminal

illness had been seen as whimpering by some.
Any others feel like that?  I would like to know.
If so, maybe this is not such a safe place to share worries, as well as
cat
anecdotes, as I thought.]]

Who said a rotten thing like that?

Was it someone whose name you've ever seen before? Or some pinhead troll
who thinks it's funny to say rotten things to someone who's already
hurting?

Whoever or whatever would actually have the gall to spite someone who's
already dealing with a lot of emotional and physical pain, they ought to
be ashamed of themselves.

If I'm going beyond the bounds of keeping the atmosphere on this group as
friendly as possible, I apologize, but I have no time for bullies. And
anyone who kicks someone else when they're already down is being a bully.

Tweed, you go ahead and share whatever you want to share. Vent on here --
everyone else does. And whoever doesn't want to read that, well... DON'T
read it.

Donna

Tweed,
No, you were not whimpering.  You were trying to get your affairs in order
to make sure your cats and birds would get the care they need while you were
gone.  You did amazing things with diminished physical strength and a lot on
your mind.  You were concerned about pain management, a legitimate concern,
I think, considering your prior experience and the type of surgery you were
facing.
I think you are someone to be admired and I'd be proud to be called your
friend.
Ignore whoever has been insulting you.  Such a person is pitiful, indeed,
and not worth your time.
Annie

So sorry you feel that way, Christina.  I didn't perceive any whimpering.
You've got a serious problem and, to my mind, asking the group for support
is what we're about.  Please continue to keep us informed.
Sam, sending best thoughts for excellent news on 6/29

Huh? What are you talking about?

This is the safest place you'll ever find. I guarantee that.

I certainly never thought you were whimpering.  Do you really think
everyone would have sent you those cards and flowers if they thought
you were whimpering?  I hope that if I ever get cancer (and the
possibility is large because every single member of my family who has
ever died in the last few generations has died of some form of cancer)
I will have the support of this group.
--
Britta
"There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown
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http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album

Whimpering, my hind foot! You have major stuff going on, and if you can't
tell your buddies here about it then there is something wrong. And that
something is with those who give you crap about you coming through asking
for support.

We grow up having it drummed into our heads that it is better to give, and
we must bear the burdens of others, etc, to the point where it seems wrong
or selfish to some to ask for a bit of it back for ourselves. We all need it
from time to time, especially in the circumstances you've faced. Never,
ever, be afraid or ashamed to come to us to get your share of the pep rally.
We have two hands for a reason: sometimes we must reach out, and sometimes
we must reach back to help one another. We are here for you.

Blessed be,
Baha

I certainly didn't see your posts as whimpering or whining. I suppose
a very few might have - there's always those few in any large group. I
think the vast majority of us were very concerned (still are and still
purring for you). If you have doubts about, just remember the purrs,
prayers, cards, flowers, and well wishes. I consider many in this
group close friends (this includes you) who I will probably never
meet.

Utter nonsense.  I am also hurt and shocked to hear this, but I
encourage you not to take it too much to heart.  IF such sentiments
exist, I firmly believe they are overwhelmingly overrriden by the
critical mass of sheer good will and honest support that emanates from
this group.  You "whimper" all you want, Christina.

Theresa
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My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

Tweed hon, if I ever heard the group discourage your posts, I'll pick
up my Eve posts and move, flat. Some jerks are just that. And they
don't belong in this group.

And.. you're posts... They're not, I may not respond. I'm sorry :( but
I have thought about you and all of the others.

*steamed at the thought*
Gracie