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glsummer@neptunelink.com - 22 Jun 2005 18:54 GMT I haven't posted about this, because I wanted to respect Richard's privacy. But he gave me the go-ahead, and who knows, maybe it will help someone else here somehow?
Richard has had a breakdown. Things started getting bad in early February, but I didn't recognize the signs of what was going on. He was exhibiting very aggressive, angry behavior at that time and for several months. Finally, in May, he went into depression and started talking about suicide. Our psychologist and I agreed he needed to go into the hospital, and he signed himself in.
He was there for about five or six days, and since then, he has been in a day program where he has been learning new coping skills and getting used to his medications (he's on Zoloft and an antianxiety, as well as a sleeping aid).
Unfortunately, on Monday they told him that he would be going to half-days in the program in order to prepare to get out of it and, hopefully, return to work soon. This set off some old issues for him, I think; I really don't fully comprehend all of what is going on. All I know is that he went completely off the deep end again, and was talking suicide and hitting himself with his fists. I was very afraid, and a neighbor kindly drove us to the hospital.
It was a nightmare. Near a Full Moon, and all that. It took hours for him to be seen by the psychiatrist. And when he finally was, we were told they had no beds available. So they shipped him out to a crisis center where he could be held and observed overnight. They gave me a free cab ride home, and I felt bad about leaving him, but the cats hadn't been fed in 24 hours, I had forgotten my Albuterol and couldn't breathe, and I had to get home before I knew what their assessment was. I already knew he needed to be somewhere safe.
I called yesterday, and they were transporting him to Riverside Hospital, which is not our hospital, because OSU still had no beds available. His case manager at the crisis service talked to the insurance company, and they *say* they will cover it anyway, even though it is out-of-network, because no beds were available where he should have gone. We shall see. Co-pays alone for hospitalization are going to be $500, plus we will probably have to pay for the ambulance transport, twice. I do not know what we are going to do.
His mother was supposed to take me up to see him last night, but she ditzed around too long. I managed to find a friend to run me up there, but I only had five minutes to drop off some clothes and see him. He is doing slightly better, but still not doing very well at all. They happened to have a class with family members welcome, so I was able to stay with him another 45 minutes, even though it was in a class on stress. I was great at volunteering answers about that -- lol.
I don't know how I am going to get up to see him tonight, but I will try.
I feel so badly for him, but I don't know that there is much I can do. It really hurts to see him like this. And I am also angry, as he has left so many things a mess and I have to deal with it all, when *I* am not in very good shape myself right now. But sh*t happens, yes?
One funny thing on Monday at the ER. Every Monday since March 1999, I have participated in the online Candle Ceremony at petloss.com. The only times I missed (two) were due to computer problems. Shortly before the start of the Ceremony, the psychiatrist was dong a lengthy interview with Richard and asked me to step outside. So I looked around at the interminable number of computer terminals around the nurse's station, and thought "Why not?" I asked a nurse, explaining, and she asked a nurse with more authority who said "Sure!" So I stood there at the nurse's station using their computer, and doing the online Ceremony. At least I didn't miss that.
Anyway, I am long-winded and babbling, and I sure wish I could say things were better and didn't keep getting worse. Surely rock-bottom has to hit soon.
Any purrs for DH (and me) appreciated.
Ginger-lyn weary
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Kreisleriana - 22 Jun 2005 19:07 GMT Oh my. It really beggars one for words. I am so very sorry. The very best purrs for all of you to pull through this.
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KittyLady - 22 Jun 2005 19:23 GMT Purrs for you and your husband, I don't know if this will help any but my father had a nervous breakdown when I was 14. I remember it just like it was yesterday. It is very scary and to hear my dad talk about it today still scares me. He says there was a period of about 2 weeks that he just completely felt out of control. I asked him what had helped him. He said it was the fact that "his family" had stuck by him. My father had turned violent too. Please just stick by his side, I know it is hard , sometimes you will feel like it is you who is the problem but typically it is not. I will pray for him. Should you need to talk, vent, ask questions please shoot me an email, I cant surf the boards at night but I do check my mail. Skritches, KittyLady
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 23 Jun 2005 18:08 GMT >Purrs for you and your husband, >I don't know if this will help any but my father had a nervous [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Skritches, >KittyLady Thank you, KittyLady. And I am so sorry about your dad. That must have been so rough for you at that age.
I have told Richard I will be there for him, and I hope he truly knows that.
Ginger-lyn
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Marina - 22 Jun 2005 19:52 GMT > Any purrs for DH (and me) appreciated. Always, Ginger-lyn. I can't even begin to imagine what you are going through. {{{Ginger-lyn}}}
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Karen - 22 Jun 2005 20:12 GMT Oh my goodness. We cannot send enough purrs. I'm sure the worst thing is to feel so helpless in this situation. Major (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) ))))))))))))))))))
Helen Miles - 22 Jun 2005 20:12 GMT > Anyway, I am long-winded and babbling, and I sure wish I could say > things were better and didn't keep getting worse. Surely rock-bottom [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Ginger-lyn > weary/// Many purrs and prayers {{{{GINGER-LYN}}}}
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Dan M - 22 Jun 2005 20:29 GMT > I haven't posted about this, because I wanted to respect Richard's > privacy. But he gave me the go-ahead, and who knows, maybe it will > help someone else here somehow? Oh, GL, that sounds awful. Very frightening. You've got our best purrs and prayers coming.
Dan
jmcquown - 22 Jun 2005 20:38 GMT > I haven't posted about this, because I wanted to respect Richard's > privacy. But he gave me the go-ahead, and who knows, maybe it will > help someone else here somehow? > > Richard has had a breakdown. {{{{{{{{{{Ginger-lyn}}}}}}}} Mega purrs on the way for Richard and also for your overwrought nerves.
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Julie Cook - 22 Jun 2005 20:54 GMT > I haven't posted about this, because I wanted to respect Richard's > privacy. But he gave me the go-ahead, and who knows, maybe it will > help someone else here somehow? {{{{{Ginger-lynn}}}}} I am so very sorry this is happening to both you and Richard. You will remain in our purrs and candle ceremonies. Gentle headbutts and hugs to you both. You will be home alone for a little while, it appears. Give us "hey I'm all right" shout every day or two. I'll be out of town until Sunday afternoon but I still have your's and Banjo's phone numbers and will call you if you don't check in!!! I'll probably call you sometime soon even if you do check in but I'd like for us (r.p.c.a.) to know you're all right.
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glsummer@neptunelink.com - 23 Jun 2005 18:10 GMT >> I haven't posted about this, because I wanted to respect Richard's >> privacy. But he gave me the go-ahead, and who knows, maybe it will [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Julie, Hobbes, Selena, Lacey, Sam and Barnabus Thank you so much, Julie. I will try to check in. One of the other messes right now is that I normally have my booth at Comfest, the "old hippie festival" I do every year. I'm not sure I can do it this year, as Richard always helps. We'll see if I can work out something. If I do, I may not have time to post more than a "Hi, I'm here" post, though. So if I make it to Comfest, advance purrs to all who need them.
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Marina - 24 Jun 2005 06:16 GMT > Thank you so much, Julie. I will try to check in. One of the other > messes right now is that I normally have my booth at Comfest, the "old [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > though. So if I make it to Comfest, advance purrs to all who need > them. I hope you do make it there. It sounds like just the thing to take your mind off things for a moment. Many purrs that you can go.
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Gracecat - 25 Jun 2005 05:05 GMT > On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 15:54:06 -0400, Julie Cook <jcook03@emory.edu> > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > http://www.movieanimals.bravehost.com/ (The Violence Against > Animals in Movies Website) Oh Ginger... *hugs*
I somewhat understand where you're at. It's hard. They diagnosed Jody with Post Traumatic Stress after the accident. If you remember, he was here and saw... lots of stuff... I was out of town.
Bless Richard. And Bless you. It's so hard to stay strong for them and there's absolutely nothing in the world you can do beyond hugging them.
*hugs again* Grace
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 25 Jun 2005 18:13 GMT >Oh Ginger... *hugs* > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >*hugs again* >Grace Thank you, {{{Grace}}}}. I am so sorry about Jody's PTSD. That is a very hard thing to live with, I know. Purrs to both Jody and you.
Ginger-lyn
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Shiral - 22 Jun 2005 21:26 GMT Ginger-lyn, I'm terribly sorry that you and Richard are going through this right now, when so many other things in your lives have gone badly this year, already. I hope Richard's medication and treatments will bring him back on a more level emotional keel, soon, and that things will start to get better.
{{{{{Ginger-lyn}}}}} Melissa
Adrian - 22 Jun 2005 22:16 GMT > I haven't posted about this, because I wanted to respect Richard's > privacy. But he gave me the go-ahead, and who knows, maybe it will [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] > Ginger-lyn > weary Purrs for Richard and you, I know what he's going through, I don't have any answers.
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glsummer@neptunelink.com - 23 Jun 2005 18:12 GMT >Purrs for Richard and you, I know what he's going through, I don't have >any answers. Thank you, {{{Adrian}}}.
Was there anything/is there anything that helped/helps you?
Ginger-lyn
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Adrian - 23 Jun 2005 18:33 GMT >> Purrs for Richard and you, I know what he's going through, I don't >> have any answers. > > Thank you, {{{Adrian}}}. > > Was there anything/is there anything that helped/helps you? The only thing that helps at the moment is solitude, I find dealing with other people in person, very stressful.
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Shirley - 22 Jun 2005 22:42 GMT Healing thoughts and purrs for Richard and some restorative ones for you.
{{{{{{{Ginger-Lyn & Richard}}}}}}}}
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Charleen Welton - 22 Jun 2005 23:20 GMT Many purrs and positive thoughts for you and Richard. I hope that soon, very soon, things will start to turn around for you and Richard and you start to live the life you deserve and have worked towards.
Charleen
Pamela Shirk - 22 Jun 2005 23:22 GMT >I haven't posted about this, because I wanted to respect Richard's > privacy. But he gave me the go-ahead, and who knows, maybe it will [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > talking about suicide. Our psychologist and I agreed he needed to go > into the hospital, and he signed himself in. Purrs and <<<Ginger-Lyn>>> We are dealing with what I say is clinical depression and Rob says is all in my head. He's convinced that the VA just wants him to curl up and die, and that he should oblige them. So I know, more or less, where you're coming from. FYI, the VA says that Rob is not more than 30% disabled because he can subtract 7 from 100 and knew that Calvin Coolidge was a US president. We're appealing the case, but Rob refuses to help with the appeal and I can't do the appeal for him. Sigh. Could also use some get Rob over the depression purrs.
Pam S.
SuzQ - 23 Jun 2005 00:25 GMT Purrs for you and Rob too Pam. Suz&Spicey
Sam Nash - 23 Jun 2005 04:43 GMT > Purrs and <<<Ginger-Lyn>>> We are dealing with what I say is clinical > depression and Rob says is all in my head. He's convinced that the VA [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Pam S. On the way from the Pacific NW to the Atlantic side. Grab 'em on their way by -- they're for you and Rob. Sam
Christine Burel - 23 Jun 2005 17:22 GMT > >I haven't posted about this, because I wanted to respect Richard's > > privacy. But he gave me the go-ahead, and who knows, maybe it will [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Pam S. I'm sorry to hear this, Pam; hugs and purrs for you and Rob as well. Christine
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 23 Jun 2005 18:14 GMT >Purrs and <<<Ginger-Lyn>>> We are dealing with what I say is clinical >depression and Rob says is all in my head. He's convinced that the VA just [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Pam S. Thank you, {{{{Pam}}}}}. And I am so sorry about Rob's depression. And yep, it sure sounds familiar. Purrs for Rob and for you, too. Let's make a pact to all make it through this together.
Ginger-lyn
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polonca12000 - 23 Jun 2005 22:32 GMT This is really so hard for you and your family, Pam. But please tell Rob that he is a wonderful Paw to a lot of kitties who need him a lot. Lots of hugs, purrs and best wishes for you both. We are thinking of you,
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> Purrs and <<<Ginger-Lyn>>> We are dealing with what I say is clinical > depression and Rob says is all in my head. He's convinced that the VA just [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Pam S. Susan M - 22 Jun 2005 23:36 GMT >I haven't posted about this, because I wanted to respect Richard's > privacy. But he gave me the go-ahead, and who knows, maybe it will [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > talking about suicide. Our psychologist and I agreed he needed to go > into the hospital, and he signed himself in. Yikes Ginger - you have a heavy load right now and I we send the strongest soothing purrs to both you and Richard. I'm sorry that its all going sideways and I know that it is a matter of time before things will improve for both of you. I know its hard to imagine and sometimes hard to hang on that long. There have been times when I have thought things seemed hopeless at my end too and each time they have become better and better. Hang in there and we're cheering for you here.
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Christina Websell - 22 Jun 2005 23:37 GMT >I haven't posted about this, because I wanted to respect Richard's > privacy. But he gave me the go-ahead, and who knows, maybe it will [quoted text clipped - 74 lines] > Ginger-lyn > weary One in four people will suffer some sort of mental illness in their lifetime. None of it is easy to live with for relatives. None of it can be avoided by the person who has it by "pulling yourself together" and all those things people say when they don't understand that it's an illness, which anyone can get and needs medical treatment and perhaps counselling too.
Purrs for you Ginger-lyn to deal with the loss of your DH, because that's what it is, because he is different now, not the person you thought you knew, isn't that right? He *will* get well and be that person again. He will be frightened now, as is everyone whose mind suddenly gets out of control, and will need to know that you will stand by him while he recovers. That in itself will help him recover faster.
lots of hugs to help through this bad time Tweed
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 23 Jun 2005 18:15 GMT >One in four people will suffer some sort of mental illness in their >lifetime. None of it is easy to live with for relatives. None of it can be [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >lots of hugs to help through this bad time >Tweed Thank you, {{{Tweed}}}. And yes, you're right. And it is difficult watching someone fall apart in front of your eyes. I hope he will be able to build himself back up, build himself a life, and be much better than he can imagine right now.
Ginger-lyn
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Victor Martinez - 22 Jun 2005 23:51 GMT > Any purrs for DH (and me) appreciated. Lots and lots of purrs.
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Elise - 23 Jun 2005 00:16 GMT > Any purrs for DH (and me) appreciated. Purrs always available and headed your way. {{{{Ginger-lyn}}}}
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SuzQ - 23 Jun 2005 00:21 GMT Of course Spicey and I will send purrs. I keep hoping that things will get better for you. I'm still hoping. Suz&Spicey
Yowie - 23 Jun 2005 00:47 GMT I wish I could do more for you than just send purrs! Please let me know if there is.
Purrs, prayers (and candle-light) on the way
Hugs,
Yowie
> I haven't posted about this, because I wanted to respect Richard's > privacy. But he gave me the go-ahead, and who knows, maybe it will [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > http://www.movieanimals.bravehost.com/ (The Violence Against > Animals in Movies Website) glsummer@neptunelink.com - 23 Jun 2005 18:16 GMT >I wish I could do more for you than just send purrs! Please let me know if >there is. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Yowie Thank you, Yowie. I know you are struggling with your own depression right now, and you have been in my thoughts.
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Yowie - 25 Jun 2005 06:21 GMT >>I wish I could do more for you than just send purrs! Please let me know if >>there is. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Thank you, Yowie. I know you are struggling with your own depression > right now, and you have been in my thoughts. I really like happy pills! They work!
Yowie
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 25 Jun 2005 18:14 GMT >>>I wish I could do more for you than just send purrs! Please let me know if >>>there is. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Yowie LOL!
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Takayuki - 23 Jun 2005 02:17 GMT Purrs for you and Richard, Ginger-lyn. How scary!
CATherine - 23 Jun 2005 03:18 GMT >I haven't posted about this, because I wanted to respect Richard's >privacy. But he gave me the go-ahead, and who knows, maybe it will [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > http://www.movieanimals.bravehost.com/ (The Violence Against > Animals in Movies Website) {{{{{{{{{{{Ginger-lyn}}}}}}}}}}} You are some special person to be able to handle all the things that have happened in your life since I have known you. It has been one thing after another; yet, you never give up or break down. Your cats must be purring overtime. Well, I have directed my cats to purr for you and I am sending hugs and prayers for you myself. And very special purrs for Richard to get the treatment he needs and come home okay.
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glsummer@neptunelink.com - 23 Jun 2005 18:11 GMT >{{{{{{{{{{{Ginger-lyn}}}}}}}}}}} You are some special person to be >able to handle all the things that have happened in your life since I [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >prayers for you myself. And very special purrs for Richard to get the >treatment he needs and come home okay. Thank you, {{{CATherine}}}}. I am doing my best. I have to keep it together for the cats! :-)
Ginger-lyn
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Yoj - 23 Jun 2005 03:36 GMT Mega-purrs for both of you are on the way.
((((((((((((Ginger-lyn and Richard))))))))))))
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> I haven't posted about this, because I wanted to respect Richard's > privacy. But he gave me the go-ahead, and who knows, maybe it will [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > http://www.movieanimals.bravehost.com/ (The Violence Against > Animals in Movies Website) Sam Nash - 23 Jun 2005 04:40 GMT >I haven't posted about this, because I wanted to respect Richard's > privacy. But he gave me the go-ahead, and who knows, maybe it will [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > http://www.movieanimals.bravehost.com/ (The Violence Against > Animals in Movies Website) My good Lord, Ginger-lyn! You have most certainly had the "year from hell". Our strongest purrs are on the way for you and for Richard. Sam
badwilson - 23 Jun 2005 04:47 GMT I'm so sorry Ginger-lyn. It just doesn't seem fair that so much crappy stuff can happen to 2 people in such a short time. Things have *got* to get better! Hugs and purrs, -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
> I haven't posted about this, because I wanted to respect Richard's > privacy. But he gave me the go-ahead, and who knows, maybe it will [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > (genealogy) http://www.movieanimals.bravehost.com/ (The Violence > Against Animals in Movies Website) Monique Y. Mudama - 23 Jun 2005 05:49 GMT I'm so sorry, Ginger-lyn. Purrs for you to make it through this somehow, and for Richard to get healthy.
I understand completely that you both worry for Richard and feel angry that he has abandoned you. It wasn't his choice, of course, but you're still left holding the bag. I'm just glad that he's getting treatment.
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Exocat - 23 Jun 2005 07:18 GMT Supportive Get Well Soonpurrs etc. from all of us
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> Richard has had a breakdown. wafflycat - 23 Jun 2005 13:25 GMT > Anyway, I am long-winded and babbling, and I sure wish I could say > things were better and didn't keep getting worse. Surely rock-bottom [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Ginger-lyn > weary Depression is a nasty beast which takes a lot of determined fighting: determined, difficult, draining, exhausting fighting. You both have a hard road to follow right now. One of the hardest things it does is make you feel you are entirely alone. But you are not. Realising this can be a great help in fighting the beast. And - after rock-bottom, the only way to go is up.
My thoughts are with the two of you.
gentle *hugs* helen s
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 23 Jun 2005 18:17 GMT >Depression is a nasty beast which takes a lot of determined fighting: >determined, difficult, draining, exhausting fighting. You both have a hard [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >gentle *hugs* helen s Thank you, helen. And I feel less alone with all of your kind words and purrs. It really means a lot to me. Thank ALL of you, and I am sorry I don't have the energy to respond to every one of you, but know that I appreciate your kind words and thoughts.
Ginger-lyn
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Pamela Shirk - 23 Jun 2005 23:41 GMT > Thank you, helen. And I feel less alone with all of your kind words > and purrs. It really means a lot to me. Thank ALL of you, and I am > sorry I don't have the energy to respond to every one of you, but know > that I appreciate your kind words and thoughts. Just had a thought. Have they checked Richard's hormone an blood sugar levels? Before I was diagnosed as being a diabetic, I was diagnosed as having bi-polar disorder. They just couldn't figure out why the various medications they put me on made me suicidal. After I was diagnosed and got my blood sugars under control, more or less, the mood swings, major depressions, and suicidal thoughts went away. I'm worried that Diabetes might be part of Rob's problem, but haven't been able to get him to a doctor to find out. (He says that he doesn't care what's wrong with him, the VA just wants him to die anyway)
Pam S.
Seanette Blaylock - 24 Jun 2005 03:09 GMT "Pamela Shirk" <tanada@earthlink.net> had some very interesting things to say about Re: One More Heartbreak [long]:
>Just had a thought. Have they checked Richard's hormone an blood sugar >levels? Before I was diagnosed as being a diabetic, I was diagnosed as [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >to find out. (He says that he doesn't care what's wrong with him, the VA >just wants him to die anyway) Would he tolerate you checking his blood sugar first thing in the morning to at least get an idea of whether that's an issue?
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:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL Lesley - 23 Jun 2005 13:28 GMT Hugs from the slave and purrs from the Fabulous Furballs for you and Richard
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Christine Burel - 23 Jun 2005 17:20 GMT Oh,no, Ginger-lyn, my heart goes out to you and your husband -- from the experience we had earlier in the year with our son, payment plans can be worked out with these places; -- there should be a social worker who helps you with your case and can help you with this. Our insurance actually picked up more than we thought it would; the important thing is to get Richard on the right meds and in counseling in a safe environment which he is now. We had to go through this with Alex and actually getting him on a different medication made a huge difference. Huge purrs and purrayers for you. Christine
> I haven't posted about this, because I wanted to respect Richard's > privacy. But he gave me the go-ahead, and who knows, maybe it will [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > http://www.movieanimals.bravehost.com/ (The Violence Against > Animals in Movies Website) Pamela Shirk - 23 Jun 2005 23:44 GMT > Oh,no, Ginger-lyn, my heart goes out to you and your husband -- from the > experience we had earlier in the year with our son, payment plans can be [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > you. > Christine I've been meaning to ask you how Alex is doing. He's such a smart and funny kid. We fell in love with both of the kids last summer. Rob got such a kick out of arguing philosophy with him. Well I call it arguing, Rob insisted that it was just a debate and that Alex is one of the smartest kids he ever talked with.
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Christine Burel - 24 Jun 2005 16:01 GMT > > Oh,no, Ginger-lyn, my heart goes out to you and your husband -- from the > > experience we had earlier in the year with our son, payment plans can be [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Pam S. Pam, that's very thoughtful of you to ask about Alex. I'm glad to say that things are much improved at this stage. Because of his crisis he was able to have close observation by a very good psychiatrist for the 6 weeks he was in partial hospitalization, and we were able to adjust him to a different medication which works much more effectively. We also gained insight into the fact that he lives in a constant state of anxiety because of his awareness of his social differences. He went back to his regular high school on April 2nd and was able to finish out the school year and get good grades, too. He also has a new male therapist and I think they have a good rapport, much better than with the social worker he had previously. The whole experience was nightmarish for us but the outcome was positive. thank you and Rob for asking. Christine
Pamela Shirk - 25 Jun 2005 00:21 GMT > Pam, that's very thoughtful of you to ask about Alex. I'm glad to say > that [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > thank > you and Rob for asking. Please give Alex our regards. He's a special and interesting young man. I'd love to have had him as one of my students. He is so good at looking at something and seeing a side of it that would never occur to most people, but which seems obvious when Alex points it out.
Pam S.
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 25 Jun 2005 18:16 GMT >Pam, that's very thoughtful of you to ask about Alex. I'm glad to say that >things are much improved at this stage. Because of his crisis he was able to [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >you and Rob for asking. >Christine I must have missed this along the line, but I am glad to hear Alex is doing much better. That is truly wonderful news. Purrs for his continuing health and you, too.
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polonca12000 - 23 Jun 2005 17:58 GMT I'm so very sorry to hear that. Lots and lots of purrs and best wishes for problems to solve themselves really soon. We are thinking of you both. Lots of hugs,
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> I haven't posted about this, because I wanted to respect Richard's > privacy. But he gave me the go-ahead, and who knows, maybe it will [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > talking about suicide. Our psychologist and I agreed he needed to go > into the hospital, and he signed himself in. <snip>
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