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Purrs for a Dog
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jmcquown - 18 Jun 2005 10:35 GMT Before my LLL left to do the show in Memphis his little dog, Maddie, went missing. He has about 40 acres where his studio is and Maddie doesn't usually run off but all these days later she's still missing. The folks caring for his pets haven't seen her. He hopes and prays she isn't hurt; didn't fall and get hurt with no one to help her (he lives in a place with lots of ravines) or fall prey to a cayote. Spare purrs are needed to get Maddie-dog home safe and sound, please.
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Adrian - 18 Jun 2005 11:22 GMT > Before my LLL left to do the show in Memphis his little dog, Maddie, > went missing. He has about 40 acres where his studio is and Maddie [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jill Purrs for Maddie to get home safely.
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Christina Websell - 18 Jun 2005 12:15 GMT Sounds like a search party is called for. Purrs that she will be found.
Tweed
> Before my LLL left to do the show in Memphis his little dog, Maddie, went > missing. He has about 40 acres where his studio is and Maddie doesn't [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jill Kreisleriana - 18 Jun 2005 14:40 GMT >Before my LLL left to do the show in Memphis his little dog, Maddie, went >missing. He has about 40 acres where his studio is and Maddie doesn't [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Jill Oh no! Get-Your-Furry-Butt-Home purrs for the d-thing.
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SuzQ - 18 Jun 2005 17:08 GMT Purrs for Maddie's safety and safe return. Suz&Spicey
Monique Y. Mudama - 18 Jun 2005 18:09 GMT > Before my LLL left to do the show in Memphis his little dog, Maddie, > went missing. Purrs for Maddie.
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dopekitty - 18 Jun 2005 20:43 GMT > Before my LLL left to do the show in Memphis his little dog, Maddie, went > missing. He has about 40 acres where his studio is and Maddie doesn't [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jill Lotta people purrs coming for this poor little doggie! I work with dogs and love them every much as bit as i do cats, though i'm not owned by any.
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jmcquown - 18 Jun 2005 22:17 GMT >> Before my LLL left to do the show in Memphis his little dog, Maddie, >> went missing. He has about 40 acres where his studio is and Maddie [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Kristy Thanks! John has 3 dogs and 2 cats but Maddie is his alpha-female little mutt; she looks a bit like a schnauzer. She rules the other dogs with an iron paw and doesn't pay attention to the cats. (She knows better!)
Jill
Sam Nash - 19 Jun 2005 00:58 GMT > Before my LLL left to do the show in Memphis his little dog, Maddie, went > missing. He has about 40 acres where his studio is and Maddie doesn't [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jill Purrs on the way for Maddie's safe return. Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe
Elise - 19 Jun 2005 04:07 GMT > Before my LLL left to do the show in Memphis his little dog, Maddie, went > missing. He has about 40 acres where his studio is and Maddie doesn't [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jill "Get your furry butt home safe and sound" purrs on the way
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Marina - 19 Jun 2005 13:12 GMT > Before my LLL left to do the show in Memphis his little dog, Maddie, went > missing. He has about 40 acres where his studio is and Maddie doesn't [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > lots of ravines) or fall prey to a cayote. Spare purrs are needed to get > Maddie-dog home safe and sound, please. Purrs that Maddie comes home soon.
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polonca12000 - 19 Jun 2005 14:28 GMT Lots and lots of purrs and best wishes for Maddie to find her way home really soon,
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> Before my LLL left to do the show in Memphis his little dog, Maddie, went > missing. He has about 40 acres where his studio is and Maddie doesn't [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Jill Christina Websell - 19 Jun 2005 23:14 GMT > Before my LLL left to do the show in Memphis his little dog, Maddie, went > missing. He has about 40 acres where his studio is and Maddie doesn't [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > lots of ravines) or fall prey to a cayote. Spare purrs are needed to get > Maddie-dog home safe and sound, please. I am worried to death about this little dog. I assume she was spayed, and not in season when she disappeared? She is not a hound, so we can discount that she pursued something for miles and got lost (hounds sometimes do this.) So let's say she normally stays near the house and has always done. The possibilities are a) she has been stolen
Is this at all likely, do you think?
b) She has fallen into a ravine.
Have the complete 40 acres with ravines been searched?
c) She has chased something down a hole and got stuck.
Same as b. She will be heard barking. Get looking and searching.
d) She has been taken by a predator.
On the scale of 1-10, how likely might this be where you live?
Jill, I am pleased that you and your boyfriend had a nice art show. What I know for sure is that I couldn't have gone anywhere while a dog of mine was missing. Please tell me you both didn't just take off and leave without knowing her fate and making a huge search.
Tweed
jmcquown - 21 Jun 2005 18:30 GMT >> Before my LLL left to do the show in Memphis his little dog, Maddie, >> went missing. He has about 40 acres where his studio is and Maddie [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > I am worried to death about this little dog. I assume she was > spayed, and not in season when she disappeared? Spayed, absolutely.
> She is not a hound, so we can discount that she pursued something for > miles and got lost (hounds sometimes do this.) [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Is this at all likely, do you think? Doubtful. Someone would have to want to steal a little mutt terribly much to venture that far onto the property.
> b) She has fallen into a ravine. > > Have the complete 40 acres with ravines been searched? His pet caretakers did a search, not sure how thorough they were about it.
> c) She has chased something down a hole and got stuck. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > On the scale of 1-10, how likely might this be where you live? 9 to the predator thing. There's lots of wild animals in those mountains.
> Jill, I am pleased that you and your boyfriend had a nice art show. > What I know for sure is that I couldn't have gone anywhere while a > dog of mine was missing. Please tell me you both didn't just take > off and leave without knowing her fate and making a huge search. The thing is, he couldn't just not leave to do the show. You have to arrive and set up at a specific time; never forget, this is actually a *job*. You pay a jury fee just to have your slides reviewed to see if you're going to get into the show. Once accepted, you pay a fee for your booth space. If they have electric hookups available, you pay a fee for that, too. If you don't show up, you forfeit all not to mention any possible sales you might realize from the show itself. So he had to get on the road and head out even though Maddie was gone. He didn't like doing it but this is his livelihood, not just a whimsicle way to spend the summer. (sigh)
> Tweed Jill
Christina Websell - 21 Jun 2005 22:22 GMT >>> Before my LLL left to do the show in Memphis his little dog, Maddie, >>> went missing. He has about 40 acres where his studio is and Maddie [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Doubtful. Someone would have to want to steal a little mutt terribly much > to venture that far onto the property. Okay, so we'll put this on one side for now.
>> b) She has fallen into a ravine. >> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> >> Same as b. She will be heard barking. Get looking and searching. If a thorough search has not been made daily, if she is down a ravine or stuck in a hole you are fast running out of time. Get some neighbours with dogs out.
>> d) She has been taken by a predator. >> >> On the scale of 1-10, how likely might this be where you live? >> > 9 to the predator thing. There's lots of wild animals in those mountains. Well. okay, let's say that she has fallen prey to a predator. She was always safe before and I think you said there were other dogs, so what was different this time? Unless you search the property daily shouting down the ravines and using dogs until there is no hope left, you will never know if she was waiting for rescue.
>> Jill, I am pleased that you and your boyfriend had a nice art show. >> What I know for sure is that I couldn't have gone anywhere while a [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > even though Maddie was gone. He didn't like doing it but this is his > livelihood, not just a whimsicle way to spend the summer. (sigh) I know all about having to earn a living. I have been almost continually sick since 2001, only returning to work briefly until something else serious struck me down. I seem to remember some paintings were sold recently. That ought to be enough to live on in order to forgo this to look for the dog. Maddie is not going to "just turn up." She needs to be looked for and police and animal rescue centres alerted in case someone else found her. Keep me posted please.
Tweed
jmcquown - 21 Jun 2005 22:44 GMT >>>> Before my LLL left to do the show in Memphis his little dog, >>>> Maddie, went missing. He has about 40 acres where his studio is [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > > Tweed I don't live there with him. He lives 6 hours away from me in another state. I'd have been hunting for Maddie, you may rest assured. But he has to earn a living and he had to leave. It's sad and I truly hope Maddie is in the hands of someone on a neighboring property who is caring for her. But she didn't have a collar on and he never microchipped his pets. So even if Maddie has been found by someone, they won't know Maddie has a hoomin. (huge sigh)
Jill
Christina Websell - 21 Jun 2005 23:37 GMT >>>>> Before my LLL left to do the show in Memphis his little dog, >>>>> Maddie, went missing. He has about 40 acres where his studio is [quoted text clipped - 93 lines] > > Jill What is you Americans say - "sheesh" is it? We Brits say b*ll***s to that for an excuse. Or I do, anyway. Is no one searching for that dog yet??? If not, why not?
Tweed
jmcquown - 22 Jun 2005 03:23 GMT >>>>>> Before my LLL left to do the show in Memphis his little dog, >>>>>> Maddie, went missing. He has about 40 acres where his studio is [quoted text clipped - 105 lines] > > Tweed Please don't make us sound like uncaring people! John has to travel to these shows to make a living and I don't live on his property otherwise you know darn good and well I would be searching high and low for Maddie!
Friends he asked to tend to your pets are not necessarily the type of people who would search high and low for yet another dog to feed. That doesn't make sense to you and I, but to someone doing this as a favour to tend to three dogs and two cats, the man and his wife don't really care. I'm so sorry.
Jill
Christina Websell - 23 Jun 2005 03:09 GMT So even
>>> if Maddie has been found by someone, they won't know Maddie has a >>> hoomin. (huge sigh) [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Jill So I guess what you are saying is no-one bothered to look for Maddie, and hoped she would just "turn up" while they got on with their lives, while she might have been barking her life out hoping for rescue down a ravine. Shame on anyone who could have searched and didn't. Yes, if you didn't search and explore every possibility about where she might be, and failed in it all, you are uncaring people. This makes me so cross, she will be dead by now if she is stuck anywhere.
Tweed
Seanette Blaylock - 23 Jun 2005 04:01 GMT "Christina Websell" <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Purrs for a Dog:
>So I guess what you are saying is no-one bothered to look for Maddie, and >hoped she would just "turn up" while they got on with their lives, while she [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >it all, you are uncaring people. >This makes me so cross, she will be dead by now if she is stuck anywhere. And your bitching about how horrible it was for her human to actually make the income he needed to support ALL his pets is really getting on my last remaining nerve, not to mention you having the gall to verbally abuse someone who has been nothing but supportive of YOUR whimperings.
Here, have some cool-off time in the bit-bucket. (PLONK!)
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:-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL Monique Y. Mudama - 23 Jun 2005 04:22 GMT > "Christina Websell" <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> had some > very interesting things to say about Re: Purrs for a Dog: [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Here, have some cool-off time in the bit-bucket. (PLONK!) I like Jill, but I have to admit that many of the points Christina has made also entered my mind. If a pet of mine were missing, I wouldn't be capable of thinking of anything but finding them, so going to work would be pointless, anyway. I realize that he doesn't have a 9 to 5 job, so he can't exactly call in with an emergency ... still, it doesn't sit well.
Anyway, I figured it wasn't Jill's dog, and it seems to me that in the past she's mentioned some other things that might suggest he isn't quite as conscientious a pet owner as most of the folks here, but I might be misremembering.
I have no interest in chastising Jill right now about someone else's behavior, but it seems to me that Christina is speaking up where maybe others of us have thought the same thing but haven't said anything, so I didn't want Christina to take all the flak.
Sorry if that didn't come out right; I'm exhausted.
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jmcquown - 24 Jun 2005 01:33 GMT >> "Christina Websell" <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> had some >> very interesting things to say about Re: Purrs for a Dog: [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Sorry if that didn't come out right; I'm exhausted. You're right, that didn't come out right. John is no less a conscientious pet owner than your husband was when you posted about and took a HUGE amount of flak for his decision not to allow the kitten inside.
John is as caring as can be given the nomadic and cyclical lifestyle of his chosen profession. He makes sure his pets are fixed and cared for in his absence. He tries to make sure he doesn't let them roam too far. But he also has the attitiude of many non-Americans (and he is American) - he has land but no traffic. So he wants to let them have some free roam. Yes, there are natural predators but for the most part his dogs and cats don't roam far or for long. So, like many others with land, he allows them their freedom. I'm not saying I agree with it, but I've never lived in those conditions with lots of land so I can't really say one way or the other. I do know he knew enough how well I'd have been in pain had I lost Persia in 2004 so he paid $900 for her surgery because I didn't have the money. Yep, he's a cruel dude.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 24 Jun 2005 02:57 GMT > You're right, that didn't come out right. John is no less a > conscientious pet owner than your husband was when you posted about > and took a HUGE amount of flak for his decision not to allow the > kitten inside. Huh?
The only way I can make sense of this is that you believe that the term "ownership" applies just as much to a strange animal as to your own pet. I've never had an outdoor-only pet.
> John is as caring as can be given the nomadic and cyclical lifestyle > of his chosen profession. He makes sure his pets are fixed and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > in 2004 so he paid $900 for her surgery because I didn't have the > money. Yep, he's a cruel dude. I didn't say he was cruel. I do find the idea of leaving town when your pet is recently missing incomprehensible. It would make some sense if his pet watchers were working hard to find the dog, but from what you've said, they aren't particularly interested in looking for her. I just don't get it.
And I think your wording is quite astute. He knew that you'd be in pain if you lost Persia, so he paid for the surgery. It's clear that he cares for you very much, and it's great that Persia has benefited from that.
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jmcquown - 24 Jun 2005 11:13 GMT >> You're right, that didn't come out right. John is no less a >> conscientious pet owner than your husband was when you posted about [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > term "ownership" applies just as much to a strange animal as to your > own pet. I've never had an outdoor-only pet. Oh come on! I've never had an outdoor only pet, either. But a large number of my pets came to me via the great outdoors - as in, lost parakeets who found a home with me. My dog, Sampson, who was in a box in a driveway in the pouring rain with other pups from the litter and a sign "FREE PUPPIES". Oh God. Persia, of course, just walked up to my back door and said, "Let me in, dammit!" As many people here can attest to, "ownership" often comes with a "strange animal" showing up at your door.
>> like many others with land, he allows them their freedom. I'm not >> saying I agree with it, but I've never lived in those conditions [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > from what you've said, they aren't particularly interested in looking > for her. I just don't get it. What if you agreed to care for 3 dogs and 2 cats, just to be neighborly, not for pay. When you arrive the owner says one of the dogs wandered off the day or so before but that's not so unusual; she should be back soon. You'd, what... organize a search party? Try to detain the property owner and/or call the the Humane Society to report animal abuse because he needed to go to work?
> And I think your wording is quite astute. He knew that you'd be in > pain if you lost Persia, so he paid for the surgery. It's clear that > he cares for you very much, and it's great that Persia has benefited > from that. All of his pets have benefitted from his care. Heck, he even took in a dog his other dogs "brought home". Unfortunately, Rusty (retriever mix) started urinating on some of his paintings. He found Rusty a good forever home with a family with kids and no paintings.
Jill
Monique Y. Mudama - 24 Jun 2005 14:52 GMT [snip]
Can we just agree to disagree? I'm not really all that interested in arguing about the behavior of someone I don't even know, and this is going way beyond my actual intent in posting, which was simply to express that I saw where Tweed was coming from.
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jmcquown - 24 Jun 2005 18:38 GMT > [snip] > > Can we just agree to disagree? I'm not really all that interested in > arguing about the behavior of someone I don't even know, and this is > going way beyond my actual intent in posting, which was simply to > express that I saw where Tweed was coming from. Yep, we agree to disagree. Jill
Christina Websell - 24 Jun 2005 02:40 GMT > "Christina Websell" <spamfree@tinawebsell.wanadoo.co.uk> had some very > interesting things to say about Re: Purrs for a Dog: [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Here, have some cool-off time in the bit-bucket. (PLONK!) Since you have killfiled me you won't see this. I hope you never get cancer and live alone. If you did, you might whimper a little. Your Christian principles seem to have disappeared.
Tweed
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