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Julie Cook - 16 Jun 2005 19:49 GMT
I'll need any hints and advice you can share and possibly recipe ideas
from everyone.

I have bought a bicyle...we'll it is on order and should arrive this
weekend.  For anyone interested, it is a Giant Cypress DX. I also bought
DH a bike so that we can ride together.  We have a lot of paved bike
paths around - a 25 mile path about 1 mile from my house as well as a 5
mile path around the base of Stone Mountain, which is almost in my
backyard.  We also have the "Silver Comet" which is around 45 miles of
paved bike path and other shorter trails.

So, I'm thinking we can ride during the week after work if I can work
out a plan for dinner.  I get home around 6 p.m. It gets dark right now
a little after 8:30 p.m. While DH puts the bikes in the back of my truck
I can mix a couple of fruit smoothies to take away any edge of hunger we
might have at the moment.  But then I'll need to be able to prepare
something light and quick when we get back home. I was thinking I could
make a large batch of pasta early in the week and when we get home toss
it with some olive oil, heat it and add stuff like olives, shrimp and
cherry tomatoes. Chicken would probably work as well.  Anyone else have
any ideas for a quick, light dinner they can share? Something that would
taste good when you come in hot and sweaty from a bike ride?
Caroline S. - 16 Jun 2005 20:24 GMT
Ooh, I was just waiting for an opportunity to share this:

Rice Salad
6-8 cups of cooked rice (white or mix of white and brown)
1 large tomato (or 2 small) chopped
1 large cucumber, peeled and cut into bite-sized pieces
1-2 sticks of pepperoni, cut into bite-sized chunks
(you could also try another spicy cooked sausage)

2-3 cups of a simple vinaigrette (e.g. 1 part red wine vinegar to 3
parts oil, salt and pepper to taste).

Mix everything together and let sit at least overnight in the fridge.

(I never measure any of the ingredients, so feel free to experiment.
The idea is to have enough of the non-rice ingredients to get some in
each mouthful.  Also, you may want to reserve some of the vinaigrette to
add later, as the rice will absorb it over a few days and may start to
dry out.)

Good luck on the bicycling routine!

-Caroline S.

> I'll need any hints and advice you can share and possibly recipe ideas
> from everyone.
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> any ideas for a quick, light dinner they can share? Something that would
> taste good when you come in hot and sweaty from a bike ride?
Julie Cook - 17 Jun 2005 19:28 GMT
Ohhh, this sounds good. I think I'll try this one this weekend. Thanks
Caroline!

Julie

> Ooh, I was just waiting for an opportunity to share this:
>
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>> can share? Something that would taste good when you come in hot and
>> sweaty from a bike ride?
Monique Y. Mudama - 16 Jun 2005 20:44 GMT
> I'll need any hints and advice you can share and possibly recipe
> ideas from everyone.

Well, if it's been a while since you've ridden a bike, I'd suggest
taking it easy.  (This is in direct opposition to my own personal
experience, in which my aunt and hubby took me on a 12 mile dirt ride
the first time I'd ridden in something like five years.  It didn't
kill me, though ...)  Take some time to get used to your bike.  Figure
out if the dimensions are right for you -- specifically, make sure
your seat is at the right height.  Women tend to set it too high; men
too low.  When your foot is at the bottom of the rotation, your knee
should be slightly bent.  You shouldn't have to reach for the bottom.
But if it's too bent, you're working too hard and putting too much
pressure on the knee.  If any of your joints hurt, take the bike to a
bike shop and have them look at your fit.  Try to grip the handlebars
lightly and use your core (abs) to keep you up (easier said than
done).

Learn your brakes.  Your front brake is much more powerful than your
rear brake, but it's an important part of the stopping process.  Learn
to use both together -- if you grab too much front brake, you'll go
over the handlebars, but if you don't use enough, you'll be skidding
to a stop without much control.  Different brakes have different
capabilities -- when I visited my dad and told him one of his
bikes had weak brakes, he told me they were actually pretty good for
an around-town bike.  My mountain bike brakes, which need to be able
to stop me on steep, loose terrain, are much more powerful, and
therefore require more caution.

Test your brakes, both front and rear, before you ride.  Every time.

Stretch, before and after.  Hamstrings and quads especially.  I like
to stretch after a bit of warm-up, so I like to find a spot on the
trail, usually just after the first climb, to stop and stretch.

As you're riding in the evening, get some lights for your bike.  You
never know when you'll get delayed.

Bring water!  More than you think you'll need.  Water bottles are
good, but personally I prefer Camelbaks because it's easier for me to
get at the mouthpiece while riding; I haven't quite managed to drink
out of a water bottle on a ride.

As a female cyclist, I would definitely encourage you to check out the
boards at http://forums.teamestrogen.com/ ... they address all sorts
of issues, from fit and food to choosing bike shorts and dealing with
heavy flow days.

For food ... hrm.  One, bring snacks.  If you're feeling at all
peckish, eat something.  It's better than bonking, which is the term
for hitting your energy wall and crashing (metaphorically speaking)
hard.  Sugar provides short-term energy; in a pinch, I've found that
even a Jolly Rancher can give a bit of a boost.

Two, I encourage you to have a small snack just after the ride.
Something that has some protein, fat, and carbs, like a half a bagel
with peanut butter.  A couple of years ago, I would go on rides and
always try to put off eating until I got to the restaurant.  In that
half hour, I would become ravenous.  A few calories invested in a
snack are much better than getting to the restaurant and going
through a huge cheeseburger and three trays of fries with ranch
dressing because you're so hungry you can't see straight.  (This was a
tip from a pro mountain bike racer who used to have the same problem.)
By giving your stomach something to work on, you'll actually eat less
in the long run.

For dinner ... well, the problem you describe is one that I have every
day.  By the time I get home, either from work or from a workout, I'm
so hungry that I can't wait to eat.  So instead, I eat, then (if I
want to) cook some stuff that keeps well or even benefits from a few
days in the fridge, like home-made sloppy joes, chili, or soup.
Grilling is also fast and easy.  On hot nights, sandwiches with cold
cuts and some cut-up veggies on the side may be more appetizing than a
hot meal, anyway.

I'm looking forward to quick and easy recipes from other people =)

> I have bought a bicyle...we'll it is on order and should arrive this
> weekend.  For anyone interested, it is a Giant Cypress DX. I also
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> light dinner they can share? Something that would taste good when
> you come in hot and sweaty from a bike ride?

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Julie Cook - 17 Jun 2005 19:42 GMT
>>I'll need any hints and advice you can share and possibly recipe
>>ideas from everyone.
>
> Well, if it's been a while since you've ridden a bike, I'd suggest
> taking it easy.

Yeah, about 15 years and 50 lbs ago. Everyone keeps telling me to take
it slow so we'll probably use the intown bike path which is all paved,
dedicated bike path with very few hills.

  Figure
> out if the dimensions are right for you -- specifically, make sure
> your seat is at the right height.  Women tend to set it too high; men
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> lightly and use your core (abs) to keep you up (easier said than
> done).

I'll keep this in mind.  The bike shop that we're buying the bikes from
used a computerized sizing apparatus that measured height, pelvis to
foot, arm length, bent arm length, shoulder to fingertips and I don't
know what else.  All of this was fed into a computer and information
such as your prefered riding style (sitting upright or leaned forward)
was entered and a suggested bike spit out.  They let us test ride the
bike style we wanted and when we pick them up they'll be adjusted and
we'll be able to test ride them again before leaving.  This is a bike
shop that's been in business, in the same location (about 1/2 mile from
where I work) since 1974.

> Learn your brakes.  Your front brake is much more powerful than your
> rear brake, but it's an important part of the stopping process.  Learn
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> to stop me on steep, loose terrain, are much more powerful, and
> therefore require more caution.

Brakes are scarey but I'll get used to them.  Rusty's bike has disc
brakes because he thought that was cool (being a gearhead type).  I was
going to have to wait 3 weeks to get disc brakes and the woman I
discussed it with said she didn't think I'd need them on this bike.  She
thought if I kept it up I'd want to upgrade in a few years and then I
might want to go with the disc brakes.

> Bring water!  More than you think you'll need.  Water bottles are
> good, but personally I prefer Camelbaks because it's easier for me to
> get at the mouthpiece while riding; I haven't quite managed to drink
> out of a water bottle on a ride.

I'll make sure I get at least a water bottle.  I looked at the Camelbaks
but thought they'd make you hot. Do they not?

> As a female cyclist, I would definitely encourage you to check out the
> boards at http://forums.teamestrogen.com/ ... they address all sorts
> of issues, from fit and food to choosing bike shorts and dealing with
> heavy flow days.

At least I don't have to deal with the last point, but I'll check into
the teamestrogen.com site. Thanks for the advice.

> For food ... hrm.  One, bring snacks.  If you're feeling at all
> peckish, eat something.  It's better than bonking, which is the term
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> By giving your stomach something to work on, you'll actually eat less
> in the long run.

I hadn't thought about this but it is an outstanding suggestion. I'll
make sure I do it.  The idea is that we get fit and lose some weight so
I don't want to eat back everything I just burned, lol.

> For dinner ... well, the problem you describe is one that I have every
> day.  By the time I get home, either from work or from a workout, I'm
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> cuts and some cut-up veggies on the side may be more appetizing than a
> hot meal, anyway.

Unfortunately, I'll do the opposite. I'll get hungry, drink some water
or juice and I'm no longer hungry so I put off eating.  I was doing this
on the weekends - basically not eating all day until about 6 p.m. Then I
noticed almost every Monday I would have a very bad migraine. The only
thing I can think is that I'm triggering migraines by not eating so I'm
trying to work on that.  I love to grill so I'll probably do that as
much as possible.

Thank you for all of your good advice. I just called and the bikes are
being built this evening and we can pick them up first thing in the
morning. I'm looking forward to getting out and riding tomorrow evening
when the temps cool down.

Julie
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Jun 2005 20:44 GMT
Apologies for the huge post ...

>> Well, if it's been a while since you've ridden a bike, I'd suggest
>> taking it easy.
>
> Yeah, about 15 years and 50 lbs ago. Everyone keeps telling me to
> take it slow so we'll probably use the intown bike path which is all
> paved, dedicated bike path with very few hills.

You'll work up to more difficult rides in no time.  One piece of
advice for getting into better shape: pedal all the time, even
downhill when you could coast.  It's hard to do, and at first you may
not be comfortable with the speed, but it has big bennies.

At some point in my life, I would like to get a fixed-gear bike,
meaning that you *must* pedal with the movement of the wheels; in tech
terms, it does not have a freewheel.  That will be a while, though.

> I'll keep this in mind.  The bike shop that we're buying the bikes
> from used a computerized sizing apparatus that measured height,
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> leaving.  This is a bike shop that's been in business, in the same
> location (about 1/2 mile from where I work) since 1974.

All of this sounds great.  You have actually had a bike fit.  That
will be a huge help.  Don't hesitate to come back to your LBS (local
bike shop) with concerns about fit or function.  They're not just
selling you a bike; they're there to provide you ongoing support for
that bike.  After all, if you have a fit problem, it's because they
missed something in fitting you to the bike.  You'd be amazed at what
can be changed, from stem length and seat post design to crank length
and pedals ...

> Brakes are scarey but I'll get used to them.  Rusty's bike has disc
> brakes because he thought that was cool (being a gearhead type).  I
> was going to have to wait 3 weeks to get disc brakes and the woman I
> discussed it with said she didn't think I'd need them on this bike.
> She thought if I kept it up I'd want to upgrade in a few years and
> then I might want to go with the disc brakes.

I have disc brakes on my mountain bike, but IMO they would be complete
overkill on anything other than tough, steep, and/or muddy terrain.
In fact, a lot of people specifically choose V-brakes over disc
brakes even for tough mountain biking because disc brakes add at least
a pound (the wheels need to be differently constructed, plus the
weight of the rotor and who knows what else ...).

Anyway, generally speaking, disc brakes give you two advantages:

One, their efficacy isn't compromised in water and mud.  When using
V-Brakes, the brake pads directly contact the wheel, so if you're
riding in even an inch of mud, the pads get coated in mud and don't
work as well.  In contrast, disc brake pads contact the rotor, so
you'd have to be deeper than half a foot in mud before they become
muddy (although yes, this has happened to me, just before my bike got
stuck and I tipped over).

Two, in addition to more power, (good) disc brakes typically offer
more modulation.  This means that you can use 50% or 25%, etc., of
your braking power by pulling the lever only so much.  Usually,
V-Brakes are all or nothing.

I love my disc brakes because I feel that they give me more confidence
on technical downhills.  I know that I can brake at any time, and that
gives me the confidence to go much faster than I would have with my
V-brakes.  "Technical" means rocky, muddy, twisty, etc.  On the other
hand, because they are more powerful, it is very easy to go over the
handlebars if you're not extremely careful in applying the brakes.  I
did so the first time I rode on disc brakes.

Or, in short, there's probably no earthly reason for you to have disc
brakes now, and unless you start riding stuff much more difficult
than fire roads, I doubt you'd ever want to consider them.  I don't
know what kind of price point you're looking at, but I would say that
disc brakes on a bike less than, erm, $1000 are potentially more
trouble than they're worth.  They can also be more difficult to
troubleshoot and maintain, especially if they're hydraulic.

That being said, the most important thing about a bike is that you ride
it, and a lot of times that comes down to liking your bike.  So if
putting disc brakes on Rusty's bike makes him more likely to ride ...
awesome!

> I'll make sure I get at least a water bottle.  I looked at the
> Camelbaks but thought they'd make you hot. Do they not?

I've used a camelbak since the first, so it's hard for me to compare.
In fact, there's no good place on my current bike to put a bottle; the
one potential spot has a pump attached.  The thing is, in addition to
water, some camelbaks have room for extras -- everything from hand-wipes
and snacks to pumps and raincoats.  Which reminds me!  Make sure you
bring a pump, spare tube, and tire levers for all rides.  You should
learn how to change a tube yourself, but even if you can't get it to
work, at least it gives a good samaritan some tools to work with.  If
you start riding a lot, it's not a bad idea to invest in a multitool
for the bike, too.

There are lots of models of camelbaks; some are designed to have
better air flow than others.  The TE forums would be a great place to
ask about the experiences others have had.

> Unfortunately, I'll do the opposite. I'll get hungry, drink some
> water or juice and I'm no longer hungry so I put off eating.  I was
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> migraines by not eating so I'm trying to work on that.  I love to
> grill so I'll probably do that as much as possible.

Doh.  I get hunger headaches, although I don't think they're migraines.
If you need to do this, again, try for a mix of protein, carbs, and fat.
An apple with cheese or peanut butter, something like that, is quick to
prepare and will actually fuel your body.  This was advice straight from
my doctor.  Some people's bodies are perfectly happy eating once a day,
like my DH; others, like mine and yours, rebel.

> Thank you for all of your good advice. I just called and the bikes
> are being built this evening and we can pick them up first thing in
> the morning. I'm looking forward to getting out and riding tomorrow
> evening when the temps cool down.

I'm so excited for you!  Let us know how it goes.

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John F. Eldredge - 23 Jun 2005 05:51 GMT
>Learn your brakes.  Your front brake is much more powerful than your
>rear brake, but it's an important part of the stopping process.  Learn
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>
>Test your brakes, both front and rear, before you ride.  Every time.

If you have caliper brakes (the common type where rubber brake shoes
are out in the open, and squeeze in towards the wheel when the brake
lever is pulled), be aware that your stopping distance will go up
greatly if the brakes and/or wheel rim are wet, such as after riding
through rain or a puddle.

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Monique Y. Mudama - 23 Jun 2005 06:06 GMT
On 2005-06-23, John F  Eldredge penned:

> If you have caliper brakes (the common type where rubber brake shoes
> are out in the open, and squeeze in towards the wheel when the brake
> lever is pulled), be aware that your stopping distance will go up
> greatly if the brakes and/or wheel rim are wet, such as after riding
> through rain or a puddle.

If it's a puddle, you can try to address this by squeezing the brakes
a few times once you're on dry terrain.  It will help dry out the rims
and pads.

Disc brakes are definitely a godsend for wet conditions.

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wafflycat - 29 Jun 2005 12:05 GMT
> If you have caliper brakes (the common type where rubber brake shoes
> are out in the open, and squeeze in towards the wheel when the brake
> lever is pulled), be aware that your stopping distance will go up
> greatly if the brakes and/or wheel rim are wet, such as after riding
> through rain or a puddle.

Easily remedied by a quick, gentle application or two of the brakes once out
of puddle. I ride in wet weather frequently and have no problem. Just the
same as when driving the car - when travelling in wet conditions, I slow
down and take even more care than usual.

Cheers, helen s
John F. Eldredge - 29 Jun 2005 13:46 GMT
>> If you have caliper brakes (the common type where rubber brake shoes
>> are out in the open, and squeeze in towards the wheel when the brake
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>same as when driving the car - when travelling in wet conditions, I slow
>down and take even more care than usual.

Small puddles aren't that much of a problem.  In a rainstorm, on the
other hand, the brakes are continually being re-wet.  If you ride in
wet weather often enough, allowing for the extra stopping distance is
routine, but if you only occasionally get caught away from home by an
unexpected storm, you can get into trouble.  I once almost rode into
moving traffic at an intersection because I didn't apply my brakes
soon enough during a rainstorm.

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wafflycat - 29 Jun 2005 15:07 GMT
> Small puddles aren't that much of a problem.  In a rainstorm, on the
> other hand, the brakes are continually being re-wet.  If you ride in
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> moving traffic at an intersection because I didn't apply my brakes
> soon enough during a rainstorm.

Yes, it's just like driving - in bad conditions, slow down, leave more space
than normal between self & whatever it is in front, and apply brakes soon
and gently.

Cheers, helen s
wafflycat - 16 Jun 2005 21:43 GMT
> So, I'm thinking we can ride during the week after work if I can work out
> a plan for dinner.  I get home around 6 p.m. It gets dark right now a
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> for a quick, light dinner they can share? Something that would taste good
> when you come in hot and sweaty from a bike ride?

Pasta is seriously good. Currently I am carbo-loading Nathan as he has a
*serious* event at the weekend. After cycling strenuously, I also make sure
Nathan has some protein within 30 mins of the end of exercise - it aids
recovery. His current favourite in that department is a high protein
milkshake in any flavour, as long as it's strawberry ;-)

Today's pasta for Nathan was plain pasta tossed in a light pesto dressing.

Cheers, helen s
Monique Y. Mudama - 16 Jun 2005 22:23 GMT
> Pasta is seriously good. Currently I am carbo-loading Nathan as he
> has a *serious* event at the weekend. After cycling strenuously, I
> also make sure Nathan has some protein within 30 mins of the end of
> exercise - it aids recovery. His current favourite in that
> department is a high protein milkshake in any flavour, as long as
> it's strawberry ;-)

I read somewhere recently that carbo loading doesn't work (maybe as
well) for women as for men =/  This from a female nutritionist.
Supposedly it goes straight to our hips (what else is new, right?)

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wafflycat - 16 Jun 2005 23:01 GMT
>> Pasta is seriously good. Currently I am carbo-loading Nathan as he
>> has a *serious* event at the weekend. After cycling strenuously, I
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> well) for women as for men =/  This from a female nutritionist.
> Supposedly it goes straight to our hips (what else is new, right?)

Dunno about that - but it works for Nathan, who is verging on the thin these
days no matter what I feed him!

Cheers, helen s
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Jun 2005 20:04 GMT
>> I read somewhere recently that carbo loading doesn't work (maybe as
>> well) for women as for men =/  This from a female nutritionist.
>> Supposedly it goes straight to our hips (what else is new, right?)
>
> Dunno about that - but it works for Nathan, who is verging on the
> thin these days no matter what I feed him!

Ah, to be (that) young again =P

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Julie Cook - 17 Jun 2005 19:44 GMT
> Pasta is seriously good. Currently I am carbo-loading Nathan as he has a
> *serious* event at the weekend. After cycling strenuously, I also make
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>
> Cheers, helen s

Pasta is what I'm thinking about.  I can add cold meat (chicken, shrimp,
scallops) and have a satisfying meal.  We enjoy smoothies - generally
banana, strawberry, pineapple smoothies and I can add some protein
powder in with them. Is there any other flavor than strawberry? I love
strawberries.

Julie
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Jun 2005 20:06 GMT
> Pasta is what I'm thinking about.  I can add cold meat (chicken,
> shrimp, scallops) and have a satisfying meal.  We enjoy smoothies -
> generally banana, strawberry, pineapple smoothies and I can add some
> protein powder in with them. Is there any other flavor than
> strawberry? I love strawberries.

If I have old bananas lying around, I mix up a banana with a few cups
of milk and a bit of unsweetened cocoa powder.  Yummy and mostly good
for you.

I adore strawberries, but I usually eat them whole =)

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Julie Cook - 17 Jun 2005 20:41 GMT
> If I have old bananas lying around, I mix up a banana with a few cups
> of milk and a bit of unsweetened cocoa powder.  Yummy and mostly good
> for you.
>
> I adore strawberries, but I usually eat them whole =)

The smoothie I make has fresh strawberries, pineapple, banana, vanilla
yogurt, pineapple juice and honey.  When I'm making it for dessert I add
some coconut cream to give it a tropical taste.  The banana, milk and
cocoa powder sounds very good, I'll have to give it a try.

Julie
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Jun 2005 23:36 GMT
> The smoothie I make has fresh strawberries, pineapple, banana,
> vanilla yogurt, pineapple juice and honey.  When I'm making it for
> dessert I add some coconut cream to give it a tropical taste.  The
> banana, milk and cocoa powder sounds very good, I'll have to give it
> a try.

That sounds wonderful!  I'm  usually lazy, though, and just eat the
berries straight =)  Right now I have strawberries and raspberries in
the fridge.  Yum!

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Yowie - 17 Jun 2005 00:50 GMT
> I'll need any hints and advice you can share and possibly recipe ideas
> from everyone.
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> any ideas for a quick, light dinner they can share? Something that would
> taste good when you come in hot and sweaty from a bike ride?

Nothing better than something cooked in a slow cooker. Chuck in what you
have in the cupboard, turn on and leave for at least 4 hours (8 is better)
and come back to a house smelling wonderful, and a nice warm stew / soup
that you'll never be able to repeat again!

Yowie
Julie Cook - 17 Jun 2005 19:47 GMT
> Nothing better than something cooked in a slow cooker. Chuck in what you
> have in the cupboard, turn on and leave for at least 4 hours (8 is better)
> and come back to a house smelling wonderful, and a nice warm stew / soup
> that you'll never be able to repeat again!
>
> Yowie

I hadn't thought about my slow cooker, I'll have to check the recipe
book.  Warm stew/soup doesn't sound so good at the moment, but you did
make me think of some cold soup recipes I have. I have a terrific recipe
for a cold peach and cantaloupe soup that would be very good after a
bike ride and homemade tomato soup would be nice as well. Thanks for the
reminder!

Julie
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Jun 2005 20:04 GMT
> I hadn't thought about my slow cooker, I'll have to check the recipe
> book.  Warm stew/soup doesn't sound so good at the moment, but you
> did make me think of some cold soup recipes I have. I have a
> terrific recipe for a cold peach and cantaloupe soup that would be
> very good after a bike ride and homemade tomato soup would be nice
> as well. Thanks for the reminder!

Oh, I'd love to see that recipe!

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Julie Cook - 17 Jun 2005 20:39 GMT
>>I hadn't thought about my slow cooker, I'll have to check the recipe
>>book.  Warm stew/soup doesn't sound so good at the moment, but you
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> Oh, I'd love to see that recipe!

I'll find it this weekend and send it. The cookbook is one of soups and
accompanying breads.  It is a very delicious soup and perfect for hot days.

Julie
mlbriggs - 17 Jun 2005 01:24 GMT
> I'll need any hints and advice you can share and possibly recipe ideas
> from everyone.
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> for a quick, light dinner they can share? Something that would taste good
> when you come in hot and sweaty from a bike ride?

I'm not a cook, but I read a pasta recipe that sounded good -- canned
artichoke hearts, sliced olives and cherry tomatoes.  Seasonings were
added to olive oil(wish I could remember what they were), but a clever
cook could improvise.  Good luck.   MLB
Julie Cook - 17 Jun 2005 19:50 GMT
> I'm not a cook, but I read a pasta recipe that sounded good -- canned
> artichoke hearts, sliced olives and cherry tomatoes.  Seasonings were
> added to olive oil(wish I could remember what they were), but a clever
> cook could improvise.  Good luck.   MLB

mmmm, this sounds very good as well. We were at a catered party this
past weekend and they had tempura fried artichoke hearts that were out
of this world! I'll give this a try - seasonings, maybe rosemary or
thyme. Dill and a little garlic. I'll have to experiment.

Thanks!
Julie
 
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