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Julie Cook - 16 Jun 2005 19:49 GMT I'll need any hints and advice you can share and possibly recipe ideas from everyone.
I have bought a bicyle...we'll it is on order and should arrive this weekend. For anyone interested, it is a Giant Cypress DX. I also bought DH a bike so that we can ride together. We have a lot of paved bike paths around - a 25 mile path about 1 mile from my house as well as a 5 mile path around the base of Stone Mountain, which is almost in my backyard. We also have the "Silver Comet" which is around 45 miles of paved bike path and other shorter trails.
So, I'm thinking we can ride during the week after work if I can work out a plan for dinner. I get home around 6 p.m. It gets dark right now a little after 8:30 p.m. While DH puts the bikes in the back of my truck I can mix a couple of fruit smoothies to take away any edge of hunger we might have at the moment. But then I'll need to be able to prepare something light and quick when we get back home. I was thinking I could make a large batch of pasta early in the week and when we get home toss it with some olive oil, heat it and add stuff like olives, shrimp and cherry tomatoes. Chicken would probably work as well. Anyone else have any ideas for a quick, light dinner they can share? Something that would taste good when you come in hot and sweaty from a bike ride?
Caroline S. - 16 Jun 2005 20:24 GMT Ooh, I was just waiting for an opportunity to share this:
Rice Salad 6-8 cups of cooked rice (white or mix of white and brown) 1 large tomato (or 2 small) chopped 1 large cucumber, peeled and cut into bite-sized pieces 1-2 sticks of pepperoni, cut into bite-sized chunks (you could also try another spicy cooked sausage)
2-3 cups of a simple vinaigrette (e.g. 1 part red wine vinegar to 3 parts oil, salt and pepper to taste).
Mix everything together and let sit at least overnight in the fridge.
(I never measure any of the ingredients, so feel free to experiment. The idea is to have enough of the non-rice ingredients to get some in each mouthful. Also, you may want to reserve some of the vinaigrette to add later, as the rice will absorb it over a few days and may start to dry out.)
Good luck on the bicycling routine!
-Caroline S.
> I'll need any hints and advice you can share and possibly recipe ideas > from everyone. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > any ideas for a quick, light dinner they can share? Something that would > taste good when you come in hot and sweaty from a bike ride? Julie Cook - 17 Jun 2005 19:28 GMT Ohhh, this sounds good. I think I'll try this one this weekend. Thanks Caroline!
Julie
> Ooh, I was just waiting for an opportunity to share this: > [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >> can share? Something that would taste good when you come in hot and >> sweaty from a bike ride? Monique Y. Mudama - 16 Jun 2005 20:44 GMT > I'll need any hints and advice you can share and possibly recipe > ideas from everyone. Well, if it's been a while since you've ridden a bike, I'd suggest taking it easy. (This is in direct opposition to my own personal experience, in which my aunt and hubby took me on a 12 mile dirt ride the first time I'd ridden in something like five years. It didn't kill me, though ...) Take some time to get used to your bike. Figure out if the dimensions are right for you -- specifically, make sure your seat is at the right height. Women tend to set it too high; men too low. When your foot is at the bottom of the rotation, your knee should be slightly bent. You shouldn't have to reach for the bottom. But if it's too bent, you're working too hard and putting too much pressure on the knee. If any of your joints hurt, take the bike to a bike shop and have them look at your fit. Try to grip the handlebars lightly and use your core (abs) to keep you up (easier said than done).
Learn your brakes. Your front brake is much more powerful than your rear brake, but it's an important part of the stopping process. Learn to use both together -- if you grab too much front brake, you'll go over the handlebars, but if you don't use enough, you'll be skidding to a stop without much control. Different brakes have different capabilities -- when I visited my dad and told him one of his bikes had weak brakes, he told me they were actually pretty good for an around-town bike. My mountain bike brakes, which need to be able to stop me on steep, loose terrain, are much more powerful, and therefore require more caution.
Test your brakes, both front and rear, before you ride. Every time.
Stretch, before and after. Hamstrings and quads especially. I like to stretch after a bit of warm-up, so I like to find a spot on the trail, usually just after the first climb, to stop and stretch.
As you're riding in the evening, get some lights for your bike. You never know when you'll get delayed.
Bring water! More than you think you'll need. Water bottles are good, but personally I prefer Camelbaks because it's easier for me to get at the mouthpiece while riding; I haven't quite managed to drink out of a water bottle on a ride.
As a female cyclist, I would definitely encourage you to check out the boards at http://forums.teamestrogen.com/ ... they address all sorts of issues, from fit and food to choosing bike shorts and dealing with heavy flow days.
For food ... hrm. One, bring snacks. If you're feeling at all peckish, eat something. It's better than bonking, which is the term for hitting your energy wall and crashing (metaphorically speaking) hard. Sugar provides short-term energy; in a pinch, I've found that even a Jolly Rancher can give a bit of a boost.
Two, I encourage you to have a small snack just after the ride. Something that has some protein, fat, and carbs, like a half a bagel with peanut butter. A couple of years ago, I would go on rides and always try to put off eating until I got to the restaurant. In that half hour, I would become ravenous. A few calories invested in a snack are much better than getting to the restaurant and going through a huge cheeseburger and three trays of fries with ranch dressing because you're so hungry you can't see straight. (This was a tip from a pro mountain bike racer who used to have the same problem.) By giving your stomach something to work on, you'll actually eat less in the long run.
For dinner ... well, the problem you describe is one that I have every day. By the time I get home, either from work or from a workout, I'm so hungry that I can't wait to eat. So instead, I eat, then (if I want to) cook some stuff that keeps well or even benefits from a few days in the fridge, like home-made sloppy joes, chili, or soup. Grilling is also fast and easy. On hot nights, sandwiches with cold cuts and some cut-up veggies on the side may be more appetizing than a hot meal, anyway.
I'm looking forward to quick and easy recipes from other people =)
> I have bought a bicyle...we'll it is on order and should arrive this > weekend. For anyone interested, it is a Giant Cypress DX. I also [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > light dinner they can share? Something that would taste good when > you come in hot and sweaty from a bike ride?
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Julie Cook - 17 Jun 2005 19:42 GMT >>I'll need any hints and advice you can share and possibly recipe >>ideas from everyone. > > Well, if it's been a while since you've ridden a bike, I'd suggest > taking it easy. Yeah, about 15 years and 50 lbs ago. Everyone keeps telling me to take it slow so we'll probably use the intown bike path which is all paved, dedicated bike path with very few hills.
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> out if the dimensions are right for you -- specifically, make sure > your seat is at the right height. Women tend to set it too high; men [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > lightly and use your core (abs) to keep you up (easier said than > done). I'll keep this in mind. The bike shop that we're buying the bikes from used a computerized sizing apparatus that measured height, pelvis to foot, arm length, bent arm length, shoulder to fingertips and I don't know what else. All of this was fed into a computer and information such as your prefered riding style (sitting upright or leaned forward) was entered and a suggested bike spit out. They let us test ride the bike style we wanted and when we pick them up they'll be adjusted and we'll be able to test ride them again before leaving. This is a bike shop that's been in business, in the same location (about 1/2 mile from where I work) since 1974.
> Learn your brakes. Your front brake is much more powerful than your > rear brake, but it's an important part of the stopping process. Learn [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > to stop me on steep, loose terrain, are much more powerful, and > therefore require more caution. Brakes are scarey but I'll get used to them. Rusty's bike has disc brakes because he thought that was cool (being a gearhead type). I was going to have to wait 3 weeks to get disc brakes and the woman I discussed it with said she didn't think I'd need them on this bike. She thought if I kept it up I'd want to upgrade in a few years and then I might want to go with the disc brakes.
> Bring water! More than you think you'll need. Water bottles are > good, but personally I prefer Camelbaks because it's easier for me to > get at the mouthpiece while riding; I haven't quite managed to drink > out of a water bottle on a ride. I'll make sure I get at least a water bottle. I looked at the Camelbaks but thought they'd make you hot. Do they not?
> As a female cyclist, I would definitely encourage you to check out the > boards at http://forums.teamestrogen.com/ ... they address all sorts > of issues, from fit and food to choosing bike shorts and dealing with > heavy flow days. At least I don't have to deal with the last point, but I'll check into the teamestrogen.com site. Thanks for the advice.
> For food ... hrm. One, bring snacks. If you're feeling at all > peckish, eat something. It's better than bonking, which is the term [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > By giving your stomach something to work on, you'll actually eat less > in the long run. I hadn't thought about this but it is an outstanding suggestion. I'll make sure I do it. The idea is that we get fit and lose some weight so I don't want to eat back everything I just burned, lol.
> For dinner ... well, the problem you describe is one that I have every > day. By the time I get home, either from work or from a workout, I'm [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > cuts and some cut-up veggies on the side may be more appetizing than a > hot meal, anyway. Unfortunately, I'll do the opposite. I'll get hungry, drink some water or juice and I'm no longer hungry so I put off eating. I was doing this on the weekends - basically not eating all day until about 6 p.m. Then I noticed almost every Monday I would have a very bad migraine. The only thing I can think is that I'm triggering migraines by not eating so I'm trying to work on that. I love to grill so I'll probably do that as much as possible.
Thank you for all of your good advice. I just called and the bikes are being built this evening and we can pick them up first thing in the morning. I'm looking forward to getting out and riding tomorrow evening when the temps cool down.
Julie
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Jun 2005 20:44 GMT Apologies for the huge post ...
>> Well, if it's been a while since you've ridden a bike, I'd suggest >> taking it easy. > > Yeah, about 15 years and 50 lbs ago. Everyone keeps telling me to > take it slow so we'll probably use the intown bike path which is all > paved, dedicated bike path with very few hills. You'll work up to more difficult rides in no time. One piece of advice for getting into better shape: pedal all the time, even downhill when you could coast. It's hard to do, and at first you may not be comfortable with the speed, but it has big bennies.
At some point in my life, I would like to get a fixed-gear bike, meaning that you *must* pedal with the movement of the wheels; in tech terms, it does not have a freewheel. That will be a while, though.
> I'll keep this in mind. The bike shop that we're buying the bikes > from used a computerized sizing apparatus that measured height, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > leaving. This is a bike shop that's been in business, in the same > location (about 1/2 mile from where I work) since 1974. All of this sounds great. You have actually had a bike fit. That will be a huge help. Don't hesitate to come back to your LBS (local bike shop) with concerns about fit or function. They're not just selling you a bike; they're there to provide you ongoing support for that bike. After all, if you have a fit problem, it's because they missed something in fitting you to the bike. You'd be amazed at what can be changed, from stem length and seat post design to crank length and pedals ...
> Brakes are scarey but I'll get used to them. Rusty's bike has disc > brakes because he thought that was cool (being a gearhead type). I > was going to have to wait 3 weeks to get disc brakes and the woman I > discussed it with said she didn't think I'd need them on this bike. > She thought if I kept it up I'd want to upgrade in a few years and > then I might want to go with the disc brakes. I have disc brakes on my mountain bike, but IMO they would be complete overkill on anything other than tough, steep, and/or muddy terrain. In fact, a lot of people specifically choose V-brakes over disc brakes even for tough mountain biking because disc brakes add at least a pound (the wheels need to be differently constructed, plus the weight of the rotor and who knows what else ...).
Anyway, generally speaking, disc brakes give you two advantages:
One, their efficacy isn't compromised in water and mud. When using V-Brakes, the brake pads directly contact the wheel, so if you're riding in even an inch of mud, the pads get coated in mud and don't work as well. In contrast, disc brake pads contact the rotor, so you'd have to be deeper than half a foot in mud before they become muddy (although yes, this has happened to me, just before my bike got stuck and I tipped over).
Two, in addition to more power, (good) disc brakes typically offer more modulation. This means that you can use 50% or 25%, etc., of your braking power by pulling the lever only so much. Usually, V-Brakes are all or nothing.
I love my disc brakes because I feel that they give me more confidence on technical downhills. I know that I can brake at any time, and that gives me the confidence to go much faster than I would have with my V-brakes. "Technical" means rocky, muddy, twisty, etc. On the other hand, because they are more powerful, it is very easy to go over the handlebars if you're not extremely careful in applying the brakes. I did so the first time I rode on disc brakes.
Or, in short, there's probably no earthly reason for you to have disc brakes now, and unless you start riding stuff much more difficult than fire roads, I doubt you'd ever want to consider them. I don't know what kind of price point you're looking at, but I would say that disc brakes on a bike less than, erm, $1000 are potentially more trouble than they're worth. They can also be more difficult to troubleshoot and maintain, especially if they're hydraulic.
That being said, the most important thing about a bike is that you ride it, and a lot of times that comes down to liking your bike. So if putting disc brakes on Rusty's bike makes him more likely to ride ... awesome!
> I'll make sure I get at least a water bottle. I looked at the > Camelbaks but thought they'd make you hot. Do they not? I've used a camelbak since the first, so it's hard for me to compare. In fact, there's no good place on my current bike to put a bottle; the one potential spot has a pump attached. The thing is, in addition to water, some camelbaks have room for extras -- everything from hand-wipes and snacks to pumps and raincoats. Which reminds me! Make sure you bring a pump, spare tube, and tire levers for all rides. You should learn how to change a tube yourself, but even if you can't get it to work, at least it gives a good samaritan some tools to work with. If you start riding a lot, it's not a bad idea to invest in a multitool for the bike, too.
There are lots of models of camelbaks; some are designed to have better air flow than others. The TE forums would be a great place to ask about the experiences others have had.
> Unfortunately, I'll do the opposite. I'll get hungry, drink some > water or juice and I'm no longer hungry so I put off eating. I was [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > migraines by not eating so I'm trying to work on that. I love to > grill so I'll probably do that as much as possible. Doh. I get hunger headaches, although I don't think they're migraines. If you need to do this, again, try for a mix of protein, carbs, and fat. An apple with cheese or peanut butter, something like that, is quick to prepare and will actually fuel your body. This was advice straight from my doctor. Some people's bodies are perfectly happy eating once a day, like my DH; others, like mine and yours, rebel.
> Thank you for all of your good advice. I just called and the bikes > are being built this evening and we can pick them up first thing in > the morning. I'm looking forward to getting out and riding tomorrow > evening when the temps cool down. I'm so excited for you! Let us know how it goes.
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John F. Eldredge - 23 Jun 2005 05:51 GMT >Learn your brakes. Your front brake is much more powerful than your >rear brake, but it's an important part of the stopping process. Learn [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Test your brakes, both front and rear, before you ride. Every time. If you have caliper brakes (the common type where rubber brake shoes are out in the open, and squeeze in towards the wheel when the brake lever is pulled), be aware that your stopping distance will go up greatly if the brakes and/or wheel rim are wet, such as after riding through rain or a puddle.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 23 Jun 2005 06:06 GMT On 2005-06-23, John F Eldredge penned:
> If you have caliper brakes (the common type where rubber brake shoes > are out in the open, and squeeze in towards the wheel when the brake > lever is pulled), be aware that your stopping distance will go up > greatly if the brakes and/or wheel rim are wet, such as after riding > through rain or a puddle. If it's a puddle, you can try to address this by squeezing the brakes a few times once you're on dry terrain. It will help dry out the rims and pads.
Disc brakes are definitely a godsend for wet conditions.
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wafflycat - 29 Jun 2005 12:05 GMT > If you have caliper brakes (the common type where rubber brake shoes > are out in the open, and squeeze in towards the wheel when the brake > lever is pulled), be aware that your stopping distance will go up > greatly if the brakes and/or wheel rim are wet, such as after riding > through rain or a puddle. Easily remedied by a quick, gentle application or two of the brakes once out of puddle. I ride in wet weather frequently and have no problem. Just the same as when driving the car - when travelling in wet conditions, I slow down and take even more care than usual.
Cheers, helen s
John F. Eldredge - 29 Jun 2005 13:46 GMT >> If you have caliper brakes (the common type where rubber brake shoes >> are out in the open, and squeeze in towards the wheel when the brake [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >same as when driving the car - when travelling in wet conditions, I slow >down and take even more care than usual. Small puddles aren't that much of a problem. In a rainstorm, on the other hand, the brakes are continually being re-wet. If you ride in wet weather often enough, allowing for the extra stopping distance is routine, but if you only occasionally get caught away from home by an unexpected storm, you can get into trouble. I once almost rode into moving traffic at an intersection because I didn't apply my brakes soon enough during a rainstorm.
 Signature John F. Eldredge -- john@jfeldredge.com PGP key available from http://pgp.mit.edu "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria
wafflycat - 29 Jun 2005 15:07 GMT > Small puddles aren't that much of a problem. In a rainstorm, on the > other hand, the brakes are continually being re-wet. If you ride in [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > moving traffic at an intersection because I didn't apply my brakes > soon enough during a rainstorm. Yes, it's just like driving - in bad conditions, slow down, leave more space than normal between self & whatever it is in front, and apply brakes soon and gently.
Cheers, helen s
wafflycat - 16 Jun 2005 21:43 GMT > So, I'm thinking we can ride during the week after work if I can work out > a plan for dinner. I get home around 6 p.m. It gets dark right now a [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > for a quick, light dinner they can share? Something that would taste good > when you come in hot and sweaty from a bike ride? Pasta is seriously good. Currently I am carbo-loading Nathan as he has a *serious* event at the weekend. After cycling strenuously, I also make sure Nathan has some protein within 30 mins of the end of exercise - it aids recovery. His current favourite in that department is a high protein milkshake in any flavour, as long as it's strawberry ;-)
Today's pasta for Nathan was plain pasta tossed in a light pesto dressing.
Cheers, helen s
Monique Y. Mudama - 16 Jun 2005 22:23 GMT > Pasta is seriously good. Currently I am carbo-loading Nathan as he > has a *serious* event at the weekend. After cycling strenuously, I > also make sure Nathan has some protein within 30 mins of the end of > exercise - it aids recovery. His current favourite in that > department is a high protein milkshake in any flavour, as long as > it's strawberry ;-) I read somewhere recently that carbo loading doesn't work (maybe as well) for women as for men =/ This from a female nutritionist. Supposedly it goes straight to our hips (what else is new, right?)
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wafflycat - 16 Jun 2005 23:01 GMT >> Pasta is seriously good. Currently I am carbo-loading Nathan as he >> has a *serious* event at the weekend. After cycling strenuously, I [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > well) for women as for men =/ This from a female nutritionist. > Supposedly it goes straight to our hips (what else is new, right?) Dunno about that - but it works for Nathan, who is verging on the thin these days no matter what I feed him!
Cheers, helen s
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Jun 2005 20:04 GMT >> I read somewhere recently that carbo loading doesn't work (maybe as >> well) for women as for men =/ This from a female nutritionist. >> Supposedly it goes straight to our hips (what else is new, right?) > > Dunno about that - but it works for Nathan, who is verging on the > thin these days no matter what I feed him! Ah, to be (that) young again =P
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Julie Cook - 17 Jun 2005 19:44 GMT > Pasta is seriously good. Currently I am carbo-loading Nathan as he has a > *serious* event at the weekend. After cycling strenuously, I also make [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Cheers, helen s Pasta is what I'm thinking about. I can add cold meat (chicken, shrimp, scallops) and have a satisfying meal. We enjoy smoothies - generally banana, strawberry, pineapple smoothies and I can add some protein powder in with them. Is there any other flavor than strawberry? I love strawberries.
Julie
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Jun 2005 20:06 GMT > Pasta is what I'm thinking about. I can add cold meat (chicken, > shrimp, scallops) and have a satisfying meal. We enjoy smoothies - > generally banana, strawberry, pineapple smoothies and I can add some > protein powder in with them. Is there any other flavor than > strawberry? I love strawberries. If I have old bananas lying around, I mix up a banana with a few cups of milk and a bit of unsweetened cocoa powder. Yummy and mostly good for you.
I adore strawberries, but I usually eat them whole =)
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Julie Cook - 17 Jun 2005 20:41 GMT > If I have old bananas lying around, I mix up a banana with a few cups > of milk and a bit of unsweetened cocoa powder. Yummy and mostly good > for you. > > I adore strawberries, but I usually eat them whole =) The smoothie I make has fresh strawberries, pineapple, banana, vanilla yogurt, pineapple juice and honey. When I'm making it for dessert I add some coconut cream to give it a tropical taste. The banana, milk and cocoa powder sounds very good, I'll have to give it a try.
Julie
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Jun 2005 23:36 GMT > The smoothie I make has fresh strawberries, pineapple, banana, > vanilla yogurt, pineapple juice and honey. When I'm making it for > dessert I add some coconut cream to give it a tropical taste. The > banana, milk and cocoa powder sounds very good, I'll have to give it > a try. That sounds wonderful! I'm usually lazy, though, and just eat the berries straight =) Right now I have strawberries and raspberries in the fridge. Yum!
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Yowie - 17 Jun 2005 00:50 GMT > I'll need any hints and advice you can share and possibly recipe ideas > from everyone. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > any ideas for a quick, light dinner they can share? Something that would > taste good when you come in hot and sweaty from a bike ride? Nothing better than something cooked in a slow cooker. Chuck in what you have in the cupboard, turn on and leave for at least 4 hours (8 is better) and come back to a house smelling wonderful, and a nice warm stew / soup that you'll never be able to repeat again!
Yowie
Julie Cook - 17 Jun 2005 19:47 GMT > Nothing better than something cooked in a slow cooker. Chuck in what you > have in the cupboard, turn on and leave for at least 4 hours (8 is better) > and come back to a house smelling wonderful, and a nice warm stew / soup > that you'll never be able to repeat again! > > Yowie I hadn't thought about my slow cooker, I'll have to check the recipe book. Warm stew/soup doesn't sound so good at the moment, but you did make me think of some cold soup recipes I have. I have a terrific recipe for a cold peach and cantaloupe soup that would be very good after a bike ride and homemade tomato soup would be nice as well. Thanks for the reminder!
Julie
Monique Y. Mudama - 17 Jun 2005 20:04 GMT > I hadn't thought about my slow cooker, I'll have to check the recipe > book. Warm stew/soup doesn't sound so good at the moment, but you > did make me think of some cold soup recipes I have. I have a > terrific recipe for a cold peach and cantaloupe soup that would be > very good after a bike ride and homemade tomato soup would be nice > as well. Thanks for the reminder! Oh, I'd love to see that recipe!
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Julie Cook - 17 Jun 2005 20:39 GMT >>I hadn't thought about my slow cooker, I'll have to check the recipe >>book. Warm stew/soup doesn't sound so good at the moment, but you [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Oh, I'd love to see that recipe! I'll find it this weekend and send it. The cookbook is one of soups and accompanying breads. It is a very delicious soup and perfect for hot days.
Julie
mlbriggs - 17 Jun 2005 01:24 GMT > I'll need any hints and advice you can share and possibly recipe ideas > from everyone. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > for a quick, light dinner they can share? Something that would taste good > when you come in hot and sweaty from a bike ride? I'm not a cook, but I read a pasta recipe that sounded good -- canned artichoke hearts, sliced olives and cherry tomatoes. Seasonings were added to olive oil(wish I could remember what they were), but a clever cook could improvise. Good luck. MLB
Julie Cook - 17 Jun 2005 19:50 GMT > I'm not a cook, but I read a pasta recipe that sounded good -- canned > artichoke hearts, sliced olives and cherry tomatoes. Seasonings were > added to olive oil(wish I could remember what they were), but a clever > cook could improvise. Good luck. MLB mmmm, this sounds very good as well. We were at a catered party this past weekend and they had tempura fried artichoke hearts that were out of this world! I'll give this a try - seasonings, maybe rosemary or thyme. Dill and a little garlic. I'll have to experiment.
Thanks! Julie
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