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Christine Burel - 29 May 2005 02:11 GMT
Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...

Omar, my 5-year-old orange buddy, has IBD, but recently in the past 6 weeks
or so began drinking excessively and I took him in and had two extensive
(and the word that rhymes with it, too) blood panels done within a week of
each other and based on his test results we know he does not have
hyperthyroidism or diabetes.   His appetite has lessened over the last week
and his weight (if the scales are correct) shows he's lost about 3/4
lb.since the second set of blood tests earlier in May.  My vet wanted me to
take him to have the internal medicine specialist do an ultrasound on his
kidneys, which I did yesterday.  His kidneys appear okay but both his
adrenal glands were enlarged and they re-ran an electrolyte panel which
indicated that his sodium was low and his potassium was up, so were the ALT
liver enzymes.  So today they called me in and wanted to run an ACTH test
(think I got the letters right) to try and determine if it is Addison's
disease (which apparently is much rarer in cats than in dogs).

The poor boycat had to have blood drawn 3 times in 1-1/2 hours and he was
really unhappy (as was I).  The first vet tech who was holding him down so
that the vet could draw blood was saying, "Stop it, Omar!" in an unkind
voice to him over and over again; I got p*ssed off and said that yelling at
him was not going to make him any more cooperative.  My vet apologized and I
asked to have another vet tech for the subsequent blood draws.  She came in
with the same vet tech again the next time and I just held Omar down (and
didn't let the tech handle him and no one said anything - we got it done
okay) while the vet tried to find a vein (which is hard with Omar); the last
draw a different vet tech that I knew was more sympathetic held Omar and it
all went okay.  He and I were ready to go home.

Meanwhile, the internal medicine specialist wanted me to start Omar on 10
mg/prednisone tonight (from what I've been reading, corticosteriods are what
you treat with for Addison's) even before we got the bloodwork back;  I did
it and hope it was the right thing to do -- I know the prednisone will
probably help with the IBD and help stimulate his appetite, too; the not
eating much part also worries me.

If you've read this far in my wordy ramblings, many thanks.
Will keep ya'll posted.
Christine
Gabey8 - 29 May 2005 03:33 GMT
Purrs  and purr-ayers are on the way that all goes well for Omar, and that
whatever's causing his symptoms is easily treated.

FWIW, my friend had a dog with Addison's. He was a black standard poodle
named Dazi (pronounced "daisy"), and he was one of the most terrific
creatures to ever grace the earth with his presence. :o)

He also lived to be 15 years old, which would've been quite an age for a
standard poodle to reach even WITHOUT the Addison's disease. My friend was
absolutely religious about making sure he was properly medicated, and as a
result, you wouldn't have been able to guess, just from looking at him,
that he was sick and on daily meds.

So if it's Addisons, may Omar have the same great results to being treated
as Dazi did. He took his daily pill(s) and thanks to that, he lived a
fabulously spoiled, and otherwise healthy, life.

Donna, Captain, and Stanley
Christine Burel - 29 May 2005 05:19 GMT
> Purrs  and purr-ayers are on the way that all goes well for Omar, and that
> whatever's causing his symptoms is easily treated.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> Donna, Captain, and Stanley

Donna, reading this was encouraging and I appreciate it - thanks!
Christine
Karen - 29 May 2005 03:37 GMT
> Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...
>
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> Will keep ya'll posted.
> Christine

Poor Omar! and Poor you! Mega healing purrs that you can find out what this
is and it is treatable.
Christine Burel - 29 May 2005 05:23 GMT
> > Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...
> >
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> Poor Omar! and Poor you! Mega healing purrs that you can find out what this
> is and it is treatable.

Thanks, Karen -- just knowing that I've got moral support from you and other
rpca'ers is helping me deal with the uncertainty.
Christine
O J - 29 May 2005 04:02 GMT
Christine B wrote:

--------------------<snip>---------------------
>If you've read this far in my wordy ramblings, many thanks.
>Will keep ya'll posted.

Poor little man!!  Bad enough being sick without all those people
sticking holes in him.  This seems like one of those rare times when
it might not be much better if poor Omar could tell you where it hurt.
I hope things work out his way and we're also purring for you as well,
Christine.

--
Regards and Purrs,
O J
Howard C. Berkowitz - 29 May 2005 04:46 GMT
> Christine B wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I hope things work out his way and we're also purring for you as well,
> Christine.

Purrs again. Unfortunately, this is one case where the blood tests and
the imaging (ultrasound or CT) is the only way to make the diagnosis.
The good news is that it's quite treatable.
Christine Burel - 29 May 2005 05:27 GMT
> Christine B wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Regards and Purrs,
> O J
I felt so bad for him these past two days going through this stuff.  Thanks,
OJ, from both of us.
Christine
Marina - 29 May 2005 04:16 GMT
> If you've read this far in my wordy ramblings, many thanks.
> Will keep ya'll posted.

Please do. We will be purring hard for Omar. Poor boy, I hope he won't
have to go through much more testing.

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Christine Burel - 29 May 2005 05:28 GMT
> > If you've read this far in my wordy ramblings, many thanks.
> > Will keep ya'll posted.
>
> Please do. We will be purring hard for Omar. Poor boy, I hope he won't
> have to go through much more testing.

Marina, thank you so much and thank Mere and Frankie, too.  I'll tell Omar
about all the extended rpca feline purrs coming here for him.
Christine
mlbriggs - 29 May 2005 05:44 GMT
>> > If you've read this far in my wordy ramblings, many thanks. Will keep
>> > ya'll posted.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Marina, thank you so much and thank Mere and Frankie, too.  I'll tell Omar
> about all the extended rpca feline purrs coming here for him. Christine

Purrs and prayers from TuTu and me that your kitty will respond well to
treatment.  MLB
Howard C. Berkowitz - 29 May 2005 04:45 GMT
> Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...
>
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> (think I got the letters right) to try and determine if it is Addison's
> disease (which apparently is much rarer in cats than in dogs).

ACTH: Adrenalocorticotropic hormone.  You spelled it right, and now you
know why it's abbreviated!
.

> Meanwhile, the internal medicine specialist wanted me to start Omar on 10
> mg/prednisone tonight (from what I've been reading, corticosteriods are
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> probably help with the IBD and help stimulate his appetite, too; the not
> eating much part also worries me.

That sounds like good sound medicine. Yes, elevated potassium with
enlarged adrenals fits. There might be some later tweaking of the
specific corticosteroid, to something that would retain more sodium.

Both from Addison's itself and the corticosteroids, there can be mood
swings. OTOH, John F. Kennedy had Addison's throughout his term, and we
didn't know as much about treating it as we do now.
Christine Burel - 29 May 2005 05:18 GMT
> > Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...
> >
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
> swings. OTOH, John F. Kennedy had Addison's throughout his term, and we
> didn't know as much about treating it as we do now.

Thanks, Howard, that is reassuring to hear from you.  You know I spent a
long time online reading today, earlier before the vet called and asked me
to come in, and I read all sorts of stuff about adrenal gland issues, some
of which, like Cushings were kinda downers -- I appreciate the info and the
support.
Christine
Susan M - 29 May 2005 05:03 GMT
> Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> and his weight (if the scales are correct) shows he's lost about 3/4
> lb.since the second set of blood tests earlier in May.

Christine - lots of purrs for Omar and you.  I hope that you get a diagnosis
ASAP and please let us know what happens.

Susan M
Otis and Chester
Christine Burel - 29 May 2005 05:25 GMT
> > Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...
> >
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Susan M
> Otis and Chester

Tell Otis and Chester I can feel their purrs (and everyone else's) and they
are definitely going to help me sleep tonight.  I didn't realize how heavy
it all weighed on me till I talked to you all here.  I sure can't say too
much in front of my daughter with her anxiety issues, so thanks for
listening.
Christine
Kreisleriana - 29 May 2005 05:08 GMT
>Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...
>
>Omar, my 5-year-old orange buddy, has IBD, but recently in the past 6 weeks
>or so began drinking excessively and I took him in and had two extensive
(snip)

Poor sweet Omar!    Purrs for all his innards to work properly.
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badwilson - 29 May 2005 05:24 GMT
Many purrs coming up for poor Omar.
--
Britta
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> Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only
> help...
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> tests earlier in May.  My vet wanted me to take him to have the
> internal medicine specialist do an ultrasound on his kidneys, which
I
> did yesterday.  His kidneys appear okay but both his adrenal glands
> were enlarged and they re-ran an electrolyte panel which indicated
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> again the next time and I just held Omar down (and didn't let the
> tech handle him and no one said anything - we got it done okay)
while
> the vet tried to find a vein (which is hard with Omar); the last
draw
> a different vet tech that I knew was more sympathetic held Omar and
> it all went okay.  He and I were ready to go home.
>
> Meanwhile, the internal medicine specialist wanted me to start Omar
> on 10 mg/prednisone tonight (from what I've been reading,
> corticosteriods are what you treat with for Addison's) even before
we
> got the bloodwork back;  I did it and hope it was the right thing to
> do -- I know the prednisone will probably help with the IBD and help
> stimulate his appetite, too; the not eating much part also worries
me.

> If you've read this far in my wordy ramblings, many thanks.
> Will keep ya'll posted.
> Christine
W. Leong - 29 May 2005 06:13 GMT
Purrs going to Omar from a fellow orange cat, who also
hates getting his blood stolen by TED while losing weight.

Rusty, owner of Winnie

> Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...
>
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
> Will keep ya'll posted.
> Christine
Steve Touchstone - 29 May 2005 06:35 GMT
Purrs on the way

>Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...
>
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>Will keep ya'll posted.
>Christine

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Yoj - 29 May 2005 06:41 GMT
Poor Omar and poor you!  Purrs are on their way.

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> Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...
>
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> Will keep ya'll posted.
> Christine
Christine Burel - 29 May 2005 17:03 GMT
Thanks, Joy, and everyone who is sending Omar (and me) their best purrs and
wishes.  I hope we get results back soon as Omar's appetite this a.m. was
not good for his canned food (and I even tried a can of a/d I had on hand);
I was able to get him to eat a bit of the dry food (California Natural and
also, this new stuff, Evo for Cats) and I got some good advice last night
about mixing it in with his wet food so got some in him that way.
Christine
> Poor Omar and poor you!  Purrs are on their way.
>
[quoted text clipped - 48 lines]
> > Will keep ya'll posted.
> > Christine
Helen Miles - 29 May 2005 12:24 GMT
> Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...

<snipped>

> Meanwhile, the internal medicine specialist wanted me to start Omar on 10
> mg/prednisone tonight (from what I've been reading, corticosteriods are what
> you treat with for Addison's) even before we got the bloodwork back;  I did
> it and hope it was the right thing to do -- I know the prednisone will
> probably help with the IBD and help stimulate his appetite, too; the not
> eating much part also worries me.////

Purrs that this is resolved soon.

HUGS

Helen M
Adrian - 29 May 2005 13:14 GMT
> Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only
> help...
<snip>
> If you've read this far in my wordy ramblings, many thanks.
> Will keep ya'll posted.
> Christine

Mega purrs for Omar. I don't know why, but it seems worse for such a
young cat to be ill.
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Catnipped - 29 May 2005 14:32 GMT
> Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...
>
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> Will keep ya'll posted.
> Christine

{{{{{{{{{{Christine and Omar}}}}}}}}}}  What a traumatic experience for both
of you.  Mega purrs coming that Omar gets well very soon!

Hugs,

CatNipped
jmcquown - 29 May 2005 14:49 GMT
> Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only
> help...
>
> Omar, my 5-year-old orange buddy, has IBD, but recently in the past 6
> weeks or so began drinking excessively
(snippage)
> Meanwhile, the internal medicine specialist wanted me to start Omar
> on 10 mg/prednisone tonight (from what I've been reading,
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Will keep ya'll posted.
> Christine

Purrs on the way that Omar is just having a temporary little "thing".

Jill
Elise - 29 May 2005 17:23 GMT
> Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...

Purrs that it's easily treatable and Omar is back to feeling good soon.
 Soothing purrs for you as well

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Irulan - 29 May 2005 18:16 GMT
Purrs and prayers that Omar checks out ok.
Jazz & his mama

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> Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...
>
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
> Will keep ya'll posted.
> Christine
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 29 May 2005 19:05 GMT
>Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...
>
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>Will keep ya'll posted.
>Christine

Purrs for Omar and for your stress and worry to be relieved soon.

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jepo - 29 May 2005 20:19 GMT
Purrs for you and Omar.
Marina - 31 May 2005 04:29 GMT
> Purrs for you and Omar.

Glad to see you are still out there, Jen. Hoping to hear more from you.

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Sam Nash - 29 May 2005 21:58 GMT
> Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...
>
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
> (think I got the letters right) to try and determine if it is Addison's
> disease (which apparently is much rarer in cats than in dogs).

Purrs on the way for the pred to help until a more definitive diagnosis and
treatment can be found.
Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe
polonca12000 - 29 May 2005 22:43 GMT
I do hope and Soncek sends his purrs that the vets find an easy solution to
whatever is ailing Omar.
Best wishes and hugs,
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> Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> kidneys, which I did yesterday.  His kidneys appear okay but both his
> adrenal glands were enlarged <snip>
Christine Burel - 30 May 2005 03:25 GMT
Again, thanks Polonca and everyone for the support -- I just heard back from
my vet about the bloodwork they did yesterday and his test results came back
as normal.  I have both good and uncertain feelings about this news as my
vet said both she and the internal medicine doctor don't know what to make
of this; my vet said she'd be making calls on this on Tuesday to see what
she can find out.  I am RELIEVED that it doesn't appear to be Addison's
disease but then, I wonder what it is!?!  They still want me to continue
with the prednisone.
Christine
> I do hope and Soncek sends his purrs that the vets find an easy solution to
> whatever is ailing Omar.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> > kidneys, which I did yesterday.  His kidneys appear okay but both his
> > adrenal glands were enlarged <snip>
Marina - 30 May 2005 04:35 GMT
> Again, thanks Polonca and everyone for the support -- I just heard back from
> my vet about the bloodwork they did yesterday and his test results came back
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> disease but then, I wonder what it is!?!  They still want me to continue
> with the prednisone.

How strange. And how frustrating not to know. At least they've been able
to rule out the more serious stuff, so that's a relief. Purrs that you
find out soon what is ailing your poor boy, and that it's easily fixable.

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Howard C. Berkowitz - 30 May 2005 04:44 GMT
> Again, thanks Polonca and everyone for the support -- I just heard back
> from
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> disease but then, I wonder what it is!?!  They still want me to continue
> with the prednisone.

Do you know what other tests were done?  Possibly renin or plasma
cortisol?  I can think of some tests that are done in humans, but I'm
not sure how you could do them in cats -- some fairly exotic conditions
like sitting for a measured time, then standing, or 24-hour urine.

I don't know your area, but veterinary CT has been coming down in cost.
It's more precise on the adrenals than is ultrasound.

If the prednisone gives symptomatic relief, it might be worth slowly
tapering it and see if the single course solves the problem.

Purrs from Mr. Clark, the resident expert in orange catness.

> Christine
> > I do hope and Soncek sends his purrs that the vets find an easy
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> > > kidneys, which I did yesterday.  His kidneys appear okay but both his
> > > adrenal glands were enlarged <snip>
Adrian - 30 May 2005 11:40 GMT
> Again, thanks Polonca and everyone for the support -- I just heard
> back from my vet about the bloodwork they did yesterday and his test
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> what it is!?!  They still want me to continue with the prednisone.
> Christine

It sounds hopefull. Continuing purrs.
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Victor M - 30 May 2005 03:34 GMT
Oh my goodness, lots of purs on the way for Omar. Please let us know
how he does.

Victor
Judith Latham - 31 May 2005 07:23 GMT
> Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...

> Omar, my 5-year-old orange buddy, has IBD, but recently in the past 6
> weeks or so began drinking excessively and I took him in and had two
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> me in and wanted to run an ACTH test (think I got the letters right) to
> try and determine if it is Addison's disease (which apparently is much

snipped........

> If you've read this far in my wordy ramblings, many thanks.
> Will keep ya'll posted.
> Christine

Prayers for Omar that the results are not bad.

Judith

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Debra Berry - 31 May 2005 16:50 GMT
Purrs and positive thoughts coming for Omar from

Debbie, Daisy, Anna, Sabrina, and Patty

> Was hoping not to need to ask for purrs but I think it could only help...
>
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
> Will keep ya'll posted.
> Christine
SuzQ - 01 Jun 2005 00:31 GMT
Purrs for poor Omar.
Suz&Spicey

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