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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / May 2005Basho diagnosis
Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN were a bit high. She's not concerned about this. Lymph nodes were a bit large, but that could be one of many things. The small intestine wall was enlarged in certain parts. TED says this can be one of two things: IBD or cancer (lymphosarcoma?). The only way to have a positive cancer diagnosis would be with exploratory surgery. We're going to try a diet of IVD (no corn, rice, chicken, beef, fish) for six weeks and monitor his weight. We also got metronidazole which he's already taken. He hates the IVD food I got. :( Purrs that his can be solved with a diet change and it's not cancer. Victor, not feeling well.  SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > TED says this > can be one of two things: IBD or cancer (lymphosarcoma?). The only way [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Purrs that his can be solved with a diet change and it's not cancer. Absolutely. Purrs on their way :^) Sheenah > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small > kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Victor, not feeling well. I know that feeling at the pit of your stomach when a furbaby might be seriously ill. We're sending lots of purrs that the diet change will restore Basho to his former self. SignatureMarina, Frank, Nikki, and Mere marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small kidney > and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN were a bit [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Victor, not feeling well. {{{{{{{{{{Victor}}}}}}}}}} Mega purrs coming that this can be fixed with diet. Like we told Tweed, try and keep a positive attitude about this - think good, healing thoughts at Basho and innundate him with love! Hugs, CatNipped > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small > kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Victor, not feeling well. Megapurrs that his can be solved with a diet change and it's not cancer. And that he suddenly decides he loves the IVD food. Joy >Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small >kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Victor, not feeling well. Purrs for you both. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com >Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small >kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Purrs that his can be solved with a diet change and it's not cancer. Purrs on the way - sorry they're late, I'm behind as usual. SignatureSteve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy and Little Bit stouchst@JUNKsirinet.net [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html >Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small >kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Victor, not feeling well. {{{{Victor}}}} Purrs from me and my crew that it is IBD, and that Basho will decide he really loves IVD :-) Ginger-lyn Home Pages: http://www.spiritrealm.com/summer/ http://www.angelfire.com/folk/glsummer (homepage & cats) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~summer/index.htm (genealogy) http://www.movieanimals.bravehost.com/ (The Violence Against Animals in Movies Website) > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small > kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Victor, not feeling well. Purrs and tail wags that it is IBD. Boone has IBD and the metronidazole works wonders for him. SignatureMargaret Fine mefine@mindspring.com > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small > kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Victor, not feeling well. Many purrs and prayers from me and my girls. Hang in there, Victor. > > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small > > kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > > Victor, not feeling well. Many purrs headed your way that both you and Basho will feel better soon. Charleen Mr. Pumpkin, Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro. > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small kidney > and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN were a bit [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Victor, not feeling well. For what it's worth, remember Francis is not supposed to be here - kidneys failing - and he is very much here, alive and a happy cat following a diet of normal senior cat food (he won't touch the renal stuff) and a Fortekor tablet once a day. Here's hoping that basho can have a similar happy outcome. Gentle *hugs* & purrs helen s > > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small > > kidney [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > helen s My boyhood d*g and best buddy, Terry, was diagnosed with renal failure and given 6 weeks. He was absolutely miserable eating k/d, and my mother finally decided to give him his idea of quality of life -- and brought home a sack of Gravy Train. This emaciated dog quickly put back his muscle, and lived another three years -- dying of heart disease. > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small kidney > and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN were a bit [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Victor, not feeling well. See if the vet has a recipe for an IVD diet you can prepare yourself. Sounds like he needs lamb and probably vitamins and minerals. Once I got used to it making pet food was pretty easy. Once I had a recipe I knew they would eat, I'd prepare a big batch and freeze it in two day containers. Jo Purrs on the way. Ann Signatureread Sam's blog at http://kittens-3.blogspot.com/ see pictures of Sam at http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/ann791/my_photos > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small kidney > and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN were a bit [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Victor, not feeling well. > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small > kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Victor, not feeling well. Hugs and purrs to you both (Mr.Clark is big enough to hug AND purr), Do remind Basho not to consume alcoholic beverages while on metronidazole. > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small > kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Victor, not feeling well. Victor, I feel for you and Basho. Just so you don't feel alone here, Omar is going in for an ultrasound and consultation next Friday -- he's 5 years old, does have IBD and has been on 0.5 ml of (fish-flavored) metranidazole 2x/day since the beginning of the year I think. His IBD has been managed pretty well with the metranidazole -- I have found that he can tolerate the canned Wellness Turkey, Wellness Chicken and Herring and Precise Chicken, Precise Turkey quite well. My vet is worried about Omar's kidney function too, since he's been drinking a whole lot more since the past few months (did Basho do this too?). We ran bloodwork twice and he does not have diabetes. His white blood cell count is 19,000 and he's been on amoxicillin since last week; the second test did show his creatinine went down from 2.5 to 2.1. So far, Omar's weight is still stable at 12.3 lb. so at least he's not losing. Anyway, many purrs for Basho -- I've been reading up on kidney disease in cats again and found these sites which you might find useful: http://www.nhahonline.com/f_urinary_tract.htm (note the food part -- if he won't eat the food the vet gives you it is important mainly that he does eat (none of my older cats that had kidney disease would touch any of the CD or KD stuff). Also, http://www.theanimalmedicalclinic.com/kidneydz.htm and http://webpages.charter.net/katkarma/canned.htm http://www.felinecrf.org/symptoms.htm Please post how Basho is doing. Purrs from us, Christine and Omar, Oreo, Midnight, Robin & Tucker > old, does have IBD and has been on 0.5 ml of (fish-flavored) metranidazole > 2x/day since the beginning of the year I think. His IBD has been managed > pretty well with the metranidazole -- I have found that he can tolerate the Did your TED want him to eat a special diet for the IBD? Or just treat it with medication? Because, like I expected, Basho *hates* the special food. I brought home 4 different canned flavors: rabbit, venison, duck and lamb, all with peas. He didn't touch the rabbit or venison. Ate some duck last night, but won't eat it this morning. He's eating lamb now, but I'm afraid it will be the same thing tonight. And he is *very* stubborn. He woke up very hungry (no kibble overnight) and we put him in the bathroom with a bowl of duck food. He meowed for an hour or so, until we left him out and tried the lamb. :( > Precise Turkey quite well. My vet is worried about Omar's kidney function > too, since he's been drinking a whole lot more since the past few months > (did Basho do this too?). We ran bloodwork twice and he does not have My vet doesn't seem concerned about his kidneys, which makes me very happy. > diabetes. His white blood cell count is 19,000 and he's been on amoxicillin I'm assuming his blood cell results were normal, since the only thing we talked about was the liver enzime and electrolites being abnormal. > Please post how Basho is doing. Purrs from us, Thanks for the info. I've been doing some research online and I'm going to try a raw food diet recipe today. I need to find a place to buy raw chicken hearts! :) SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com My vet suggested trying the special diet, too--I tried two of the cans (venison and lamb); it was a dud. Good luck on the raw diet idea -- let me know if it works for you. There is a yahoo group for Feline IBD, I believe, too. Christine > > old, does have IBD and has been on 0.5 ml of (fish-flavored) metranidazole > > 2x/day since the beginning of the year I think. His IBD has been managed [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > to try a raw food diet recipe today. I need to find a place to buy raw > chicken hearts! :) >> Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small >> kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >Please post how Basho is doing. Purrs from us, >Christine and Omar, Oreo, Midnight, Robin & Tucker Purrs for Omar, Christine. ginger-lyn Home Pages: http://www.spiritrealm.com/summer/ http://www.angelfire.com/folk/glsummer (homepage & cats) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~summer/index.htm (genealogy) http://www.movieanimals.bravehost.com/ (The Violence Against Animals in Movies Website) Many thanks, Ginger-lyn. Christine > >> Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small > >> kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > http://www.movieanimals.bravehost.com/ (The Violence Against > Animals in Movies Website) >> Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small >> kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > Please post how Basho is doing. Purrs from us, > Christine and Omar, Oreo, Midnight, Robin & Tucker Purrs for Omar too. Miracles happen, I now know. Keep up your spirits. A thousand purrs for Basho! Reading a bit ago about him meowing like a madman at the bedroom door made me think he's got a lot of chutzpah, and that's a good thing in a cat. Or two-leg, for that matter. Blessed be, Baha > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small > kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov > Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com Aaargh, how frustrating not to have a definite diagnosis. Many purrs coming up for the diet change to do the trick. -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small > kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Victor, not feeling well. Purrs to Basho coming from our three, Victor. Ted, who has spent a lot of time at v*t offices (avoiding acronym usage to avoid confusion with cat's name), has special sympathy for young Basho. Spock, who fancies himself as part Oriental, declares that handsome cats like Basho can overcome any obstacle with aplomb. Tish Healing Purrs on the way. Fuga Victor M wrote: --------------------<snip>--------------------- >Purrs that his can be solved with a diet change and it's not cancer. You got six purr machines working for poor Basho. Let's hope the diet works. >Victor, not feeling well. I should think not. Purrs for a worried kitty-daddy too. -- Regards and Purrs, O J > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small > kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Victor, not feeling well. Purrs that the diet works. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat. Still purring and praying for Basho's well-being, Victor. Jazz & his mama SignatureIrulan from the stars we come to the stars we return from now until the end of time > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small kidney > and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN were a bit [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Victor, not feeling well. Lots of purrs and best wishes for the diet to work really well, SignaturePolonca & Soncek > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small > kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Victor, not feeling well. > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small kidney > and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN were a bit [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Victor, not feeling well. We're adding ours to the "purr choir" for Basho. Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe Hi Victor, Last year my 6 year old cat was hospitalised with a severe intestinal condition. She was also pregnant and lost the kitties. She did not pick up well, and a biopsy showed IBD. She was fed on Hills sensitive dry food for some time, and eventually was able to go on a normal diet. She is now well and quite plump, and will not be mated again. Soon to be spayed. She is an Oriental. Marie from OZ >> Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small kidney >> and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN were a [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > We're adding ours to the "purr choir" for Basho. > Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe > condition. She was also pregnant and lost the kitties. She did not pick up > well, and a biopsy showed IBD. She was fed on Hills sensitive dry food > for some time, and eventually was able to go on a normal diet. > She is now well and quite plump, and will not be mated again. Soon to be > spayed. She is an Oriental. Marie from OZ Thank you for sharing that Marie, it gives me lots of hope. We have not been able to get Basho to eat the special food. I've also tried a meat-only food from Wysong and he won't eat that either. I've ordered supplies online to start making my own raw meat-only food, but in the meantime, Basho can eat whatever he wants. He hasn't thrown up since before we went to TED the first time. We'll move all the cats to the raw diet and hopefully they'll all eat it. :) SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > Thank you for sharing that Marie, it gives me lots of hope. We have not > been able to get Basho to eat the special food. I've also tried a [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > before we went to TED the first time. We'll move all the cats to the raw > diet and hopefully they'll all eat it. :) It's so much easier if you can give all the cats the same food. Good luck with the new diet, and can you post some recipes? Sounds interesting. SignatureMarina, Frank and Mere. In loving memory of Nikki. marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki > It's so much easier if you can give all the cats the same food. Good > luck with the new diet, and can you post some recipes? Sounds interesting. I found a very complete website http://www.catnutrition.org/ It has a lot of good information, including the following recipe (the website has step-by-step instructions with pictures!): Raw Cat Food Diet Recipe Made WITH Real Bones •2 kg [4.4 lb] raw muscle meat with bones (i.e., chicken thighs and drumsticksŠor, even better, a whole carcass of rabbit or chicken amounting to 2 kg.; if you don™t use a whole carcass, opt for DARK meats like thighs/drumsticks) •400 grams [14 oz.] of raw heart, ideally from same animal (if no heart is available, substitute with 4000 mg. Taurine*) •200 grams [7 oz] raw, ground liver, ideally from same animal. If you can™t find the appropriate liver, you can substitute 40,000 IU of Vitamin A and 1600 IU of Vitamin DŠbut try to use real liver instead of substitutes •16 oz. [2 cups] water •4 raw egg yolks (use eggs from free-range chickens if you can) •4000 mg. salmon oil (see Note at bottom of recipe**) •4 capsules raw glandular supplement (for example, ixRaw Multiple Glandularls from Premier Labs) •800 IU Vitamin E (itdry Elt works very nicely) •200 mg. Vitamin B complex •OPTIONAL: 4 tsp. psyllium husk powder (or 8 tsp. if using whole psyllium husks. see Note at bottom of recipe ***) •OPTIONAL: ¼ teaspoon of kelp and ½ tsp dulse (if you™re using very high quality free-range meats, there is no need to add kelp and dulse in this recipe) *NOTE: If you will not be using the food immediately and freezing for more than a week or two, toss in an extra 4000 mg. of additional Taurine to make up for what may get lost during storage. It is also not a bad idea to sprinkle extra Taurine from a capsule on the food as you™re serving it two or three times a week, just to be certain your cat is getting plenty of this critical amino acid. SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com >Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small >kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >Victor, not feeling well. {{{{{{{{Victor}}}}}}}} Purrs for you and Basho. I really hope it is the IVD. I pray the diet change will solve the whole thing. -- CATherine Purrs! Elisabet and Hugo Katt Victor Martinez skrev i meddelandet ... >Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small >kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov >Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small > kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > for six weeks and monitor his weight. We also got metronidazole which > he's already taken. He hates the IVD food I got. :( > Purrs that his can be solved with a diet change and it's not cancer. > Victor, not feeling well. Prayers for Basho and for you. Judith SignatureJudith Latham Stourbridge, West Midlands. UK. > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small > kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Victor, not feeling well. Oh Victor, mega purrs that diet helps :( (((((hugs))))) Lots and lots of purrs for your lovey little Basho. I hope he gets the hang of the IVD diet and that he's feeling better ASAP. Susan M Otis and Chester > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small kidney > and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN were a bit [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Victor, not feeling well. Add my Purrs Victor, I hope Basho recovers quickly and I'm glad the prognosis seems to be good, cheersfor you both,and hopes for it to stay good Jean.P. > Well, not really a firm diagnosis. The ultrasound revealed a small > kidney and a normal one, TED thinks this is why the creatinine and BUN [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov > Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com |
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