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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / May 2005[OT] Splenda?
Has anyone here heard of anyone having problems with Splenda (Sucralose)? I've been using it and I like the taste, but then decided to do a web search on "Splenda Dangers" and got more info than I'd bargained for. Of course there's all kind of panic-making misinformation to be had on the web, so some of it is sure to hit home when they start talking about the medical problems it causes. I'm trying to find out from anyone who may have had personal experience with it or knows someone who has. Anyone?  SignatureHugs, CatNipped http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ > Has anyone here heard of anyone having problems with Splenda > (Sucralose)? I've been using it and I like the taste, but then [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > CatNipped > http://www.PossiblePlaces.com/CatNipped/ I've only used it in resteraunts (the few that provide it), and in iced tea. I did notice that it is sweeter than regular sugar (3 packets of Splends is way more sweeter than 3 packets of regular sugar - thank god waitress came & refilled my half-empty glass with unsweetened tea and evened it out some :) ) SignatureThe ONE and ONLY lefthanded-pathetic-paranoid-psychotic-sarcastic-wiseass-ditzy former-blonde in Bloomington! (And proud of it, too)© email me at nalee1964 (at) insightbb (dot) com http://community.webshots.com/user/mgcmdjeep > Has anyone here heard of anyone having problems with Splenda (Sucralose)? > I've been using it and I like the taste, but then decided to do a web [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > medical problems it causes. I'm trying to find out from anyone who may > have had personal experience with it or knows someone who has. Anyone? Personally, I think much is overinflation of real situation. Like many a food stuff, moderation is the key. Sugar has it's bad effects on health too... diabetes... rotting teeth...Indeed, over on this side of the pond, artificial sweeteners including Splenda are encouraged for diabetics. Example - see http://www.sndri.gcal.ac.uk/pdf/diabetes/9249healthiereat.pdf Remember the Alar on apples scare? Cheers, helen s > > Has anyone here heard of anyone having problems with Splenda (Sucralose)? > > I've been using it and I like the taste, but then decided to do a web [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Cheers, helen s Not to eggs are bad for you. No, wait, eggs aren't that bad. Oh yes, they are. No, wait, they aren't. Don't get me started on nitrites in bacon. Don't eat bacon! But wait, Atkins said to eat a pound of it at one sitting! If we all worried about every little thing we ate we'd be so skinny we'd slip sideways through cracks in doorways. THEN we'd have to worry about being accused of burgling someone's home because we could slip through the cracks! (chuckling) Jill > > > Has anyone here heard of anyone having problems with Splenda > (Sucralose)? [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > > Not to MENTION eggs are bad for you. No, wait, eggs aren't that bad. Oh yes, they are. No, wait, they aren't. Don't get me started on nitrites in bacon. > Don't eat bacon! But wait, Atkins said to eat a pound of it at one sitting! > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Jill I can't touch the stuff w/a ten-foot-pole. I don't care what it's made out of; eating any food sweetened w/Splenda gives me - within a few hours - severe ab cramps and glued to bathroom throne for duration of overnight hours.For some reason, all the d***** "no sugar added" ice cream (not the frozen yogurt, thank God) is laced w/it as if it were the solution to world peace. You asked, I told. >> > > Has anyone here heard of anyone having problems with Splenda >> (Sucralose)? [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] >> >> Jill >I can't touch the stuff w/a ten-foot-pole. I don't care what it's made out >of; eating any food sweetened w/Splenda gives me - within a few hours - [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > sugar added" ice cream (not the frozen yogurt, thank God) is laced w/it as > if it were the solution to world peace. You asked, I told. Well, one of the reasons I asked was because of the intestinal problems I've been reading about (not to mention the effects on animal testing: Shrunken thymus glands (up to 40% shrinkage), Enlarged liver and kidneys, Atrophy of lymph follicles in the spleen and thymus, Increased cecal weight, Reduced growth rate, Decreased red blood cell count, Hyperplasia of the pelvis, Extension of the pregnancy period, Aborted pregnancy, Decreased fetal body weights and placental weights, and Diarrhea I've seen mentioned on numerous sites). I've been having a problem with, um, "excessive internal aeration" lately, and I eat *lots* of Splenda because I drink *lots* of coffee with it and since I hate the taste of coffee I put about 6 or 7 packets of Splenda in each cup. Well, OK, coffee is made from beans and beans have been known to cause this problem, so am I just full of hot air??? ;> Hugs, CatNipped > and I eat *lots* of Splenda because I drink *lots* of coffee with it and > since I hate the taste of coffee I put about 6 or 7 packets of Splenda in Dumb question. Why do you drink coffee if you don't like it? The caffeine? Have you tried green tea? It's got caffeine and it's good for you! SignatureVictor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com >> and I eat *lots* of Splenda because I drink *lots* of coffee with it and >> since I hate the taste of coffee I put about 6 or 7 packets of Splenda in > > Dumb question. Why do you drink coffee if you don't like it? The caffeine? > Have you tried green tea? It's got caffeine and it's good for you! Yes, but not to "wake me up". I have ADHD and any stimulant I take actually calms me down and makes me more "focused". There's also the benefit of just drinking something hot that will keep me from being hungry all the time (my metabolism is so out of whack that I feel hungry even after eating!). I haven't tried hot tea just because it's not as readily available (there's always a pot of coffee going at the office). I'll have to get some and see about getting a set-up going at the new office (we're moving to our new "Executive Suite" in about 4 weeks - at least that will help *one* aspect of my lousy job, I won't be working in a depot at the Port of Houston and being run off the road by 18 wheelers at least twice a week). Hugs, CatNipped >>> and I eat *lots* of Splenda because I drink *lots* of coffee with it and >>> since I hate the taste of coffee I put about 6 or 7 packets of Splenda [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > *one* aspect of my lousy job, I won't be working in a depot at the Port of > Houston and being run off the road by 18 wheelers at least twice a week). I'd suggest teas (many are flavoured with fruit essences and don't need extra sweetner) and also those 'energy' drinks or things with guruana. Sudafed may also help :-) A Chinese herbalist may be able to help you as well. Yowie I use Splenda in tea. I tried it in coffee but it ruined the flavor of the coffee for some reason. The one that was taken off the market was Sucaral. Equal, to me, has a bad aftertaste. I think I will go back to plain sugar! ---MIKE--- >>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580') From what I understand, none of the non-sugar sweeteners are any "good for us" but as I have diabetes type 2 it's not smart to use sugar. I use Equal but there are plenty of bad things about that, too. Why don't you try slacking off some on the *amount* of Splenda used in your coffee/whatever? I don't think the reactions you're having have anything whatsoever to do w/coffee beans! I remain less than scared-into-oblivion re animal tests on food we consume....example: *all* adult hoomins have "shrunken thymuses" (this organ is only large in infants) and hopefully we, as adults, have nothing to fear re "growth reduction" as we are "finished" hoomins. There was an artificial sweetener in the '60's or so that was very good-tasting, and didn't leave an aftertaste (early problem for all concocted sweeteners)....gov't took it off the market after animal tests - force-feeding what would be equivalent of US drinking *gallons* of soft drinks w/this ingredient in it *daily*! - to animals caused cancer in same animals. No common sense. Don't remember its name....and it was *not*saccharine (sp?).... >> and I eat *lots* of Splenda because I drink *lots* of coffee with it and >> since I hate the taste of coffee I put about 6 or 7 packets of Splenda in > > Dumb question. Why do you drink coffee if you don't like it? The caffeine? > Have you tried green tea? It's got caffeine and it's good for you! > I've been having a problem with, um, "excessive internal aeration" > lately, and I eat *lots* of Splenda because I drink *lots* of coffee > with it and since I hate the taste of coffee I put about 6 or 7 > packets of Splenda in each cup. Well, OK, coffee is made from beans > and beans have been known to cause this problem, so am I just full > of hot air??? ;> Hrm. When I drink coffee with powdered creamer, my tummy gets upset and I get my own excessive internal aeration. I can drink tons of coffee as long as it's with regular cream or milk and sugar, but the powdered creamer does me in. Signaturemonique, who spoils Oscar unmercifully pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca > I've been having a problem with, um, "excessive internal aeration" lately, > and I eat *lots* of Splenda because I drink *lots* of coffee with it and > since I hate the taste of coffee I put about 6 or 7 packets of Splenda in > each cup. Coffee is not putting the wind in your *cough* sails. But why are you drinking it if you do not like the taste? There are so many good teas. >> I've been having a problem with, um, "excessive internal aeration" >> lately, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Coffee is not putting the wind in your *cough* sails. But why are you > drinking it if you do not like the taste? There are so many good teas. Mostly, like I told Victor, availability. There's *always* a pot of coffee brewing at home and especially at work, but never the makings for tea. I'm going to try and change that at the new office, though. Hugs, CatNipped >>>I've been having a problem with, um, "excessive internal aeration" >>>lately, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > CatNipped As one who also doesn't enjoy coffee, I have a couple of suggestions for if you don't have luck with tea, you might try chocolate covered coffee beans (gritty, but the chocolate mitigates the nasty coffee flavor), or maybe even one of the caffiene pills (No-doze comes to mind). Then there's also sodas, but if you don't want/can't have the sugar we're back to the artificial sweeteners. Are they still selling that caffinated water that I saw at the store last summer? - Denise Brennasmeowmy > Mostly, like I told Victor, availability. There's *always* a pot of coffee > brewing at home and especially at work, but never the makings for tea. I'm > going to try and change that at the new office, though. I can't stand the taste of coffee, but love the smell. I actually bring in tea bags and make myself a cup of tea. With the ever present pot of coffee, there usually a healthy supply of water. If you prefer your tea iced, there are usually ice machines. With bringing your own supply of tea, you can purchase what you like and can afford. I don't really care for liptons which is what the company used to stock before cost cutting measures were put in place. The other thing is hot coco, or iced coco. Good luck. >>> I've been having a problem with, um, "excessive internal aeration" >>> lately, [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > CatNipped Wait a sec. As the Admin Assistant it's your JOB to make sure there is an abundance of coffee, tea, flavoured syrups and cream. <huge wink> My former employer's office always supplied teas as well as coffee. Even herbal teas which don't contain caffeine. Bigelow has a nice selection. They also supplied flavoured syrups and cream, too, so if you wanted to think you were drinking Bailey's Irish Cream in your coffee, you could ;) Jill >>>> I've been having a problem with, um, "excessive internal aeration" >>>> lately, [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Jill Yep, that's what I'm thinking. We'll be moving out of the depot soon into our new offices downtown (it's going to be *SO* much nicer working in a *real* office). And we're changing vendors at the same time and the new vendor can supply Starbuck's coffee, half and half, softdrinks *AND* imported teas (no problem with this, my rich b*tch of a spoiled brat boss demands only the best so nothing else would suit him anyway - I don't sound bitter, do I ;>). Hugs, CatNipped "CatNipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> wrote in message > I've been having a problem with, um, "excessive internal aeration" lately, > and I eat *lots* of Splenda because I drink *lots* of coffee with it and > since I hate the taste of coffee I put about 6 or 7 packets of Splenda in > each cup. Well, OK, coffee is made from beans and beans have been known > to cause this problem, so am I just full of hot air??? ;> OK that's different. That is entirely too much Splenda for anyone to be consuming. I use one packet every morning for two cups of coffee. I may use another with fruit or something during the day. One packet will sweeten a pint of strawberries. I've been off and on the South Beach diet, and it pretty much OK's Splenda and other sweeteners, but in moderation (something like no more than 4 packs a day). In part because eating something sweet sets off a craving for sweets and partly because more than that can easily cause indigestion. If you are drinking many cups of coffee with five or six packets each, its a wonder your digestive system hasn't gone into total rebellion. Even if just from the coffee. Some experience here. Found out while I was in college that a steady diet of coffee and sweetrolls will land me in the hospital for a week with acute gastroenteritis, followed by many years of problems. Jo > I've been having a problem with, um, "excessive internal aeration" > lately, and I eat *lots* of Splenda because I drink *lots* of coffee > with it and since I hate the taste of coffee I put about 6 or 7 > packets of Splenda in each cup. Well, OK, coffee is made from beans > and beans have been known to cause this problem, so am I just full of > hot air??? ;> Whoa! I think you're OD'ing on the stuff. 6 or 7 packets in each cup?!?!? If you hate coffee that much drink something else. 1/2 a packet per cup of coffee is plenty, 1 packet for a large mug. -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album "CatNipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Correction Re: [OT] Splenda?: >Well, one of the reasons I asked was because of the intestinal problems I've >been reading about (not to mention the effects on animal testing: Shrunken [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >weights and placental weights, and Diarrhea I've seen mentioned on numerous >sites). Would those animal tests by chance involve vastly exaggerated dosages? :-) Signature"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL > Would those animal tests by chance involve vastly exaggerated dosages? > :-) You mean just like the ones which caused the Alar on apples scare? :-) Cheers, helen s "wafflycat" <waffles*AT*v21net*DOT*co*DOT*uk> had some very interesting things to say about Re: Correction Re: [OT] Splenda?: >> Would those animal tests by chance involve vastly exaggerated dosages? >> :-) >You mean just like the ones which caused the Alar on apples scare? :-) I'm thinking the "go anywhere near saccharine, get cancer" scare. :-) Signature"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL >I can't touch the stuff w/a ten-foot-pole. I don't care what it's made out >of; eating any food sweetened w/Splenda gives me - within a few hours - [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > sugar added" ice cream (not the frozen yogurt, thank God) is laced w/it as > if it were the solution to world peace. You asked, I told. Hey! Me too! I can no longer chew gum here, it all contains artificial sweetner. I can't eat many of the 'low fat' desserts (including yoghurt) because they too have artificial sweetner. And throat lozenges, they all have artificial sweetner. Pretty much anything "diet" has it, too. Fo the longest time I thought I had IBS, but it was because I was drinking 300ml of diet Coke every lunch time, and by about 3pm I was in the middle of the most gawdawful cramps and worse. I still get the odd episode as I have other food allergies, but its rare, and its not as long or half as intense as it was when I was still consuming artificial sweetner. Yowie >I can't touch the stuff w/a ten-foot-pole. I don't care what it's made out >of; eating any food sweetened w/Splenda gives me - within a few hours - [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > sugar added" ice cream (not the frozen yogurt, thank God) is laced w/it as > if it were the solution to world peace. You asked, I told. Doesn't have that effect on me. Cheers, helen s > Has anyone here heard of anyone having problems with Splenda (Sucralose)? > I've been using it and I like the taste, but then decided to do a web search [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > problems it causes. I'm trying to find out from anyone who may have had > personal experience with it or knows someone who has. Anyone? From http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-sweeteners.html: Splenda, also known as sucralose, is an artificial sweetener, which is a chlorinated sucrose derivative. Facts about this artificial chemical are as follows: Pre-Approval Research Pre-approval research showed that sucralose caused shrunken thymus glands (up to 40% shrinkage) and enlarged liver and kidneys. Recent Research A possible problem with caecal enlargement and renal mineralization has been seen in post approval animal research. Sucralose Breaks Down Despite the manufacturer's mis-statements, sucralose does break down into small amounts of 1,6-dichlorofructose, a chemical which has not been adequtely tested in humans. More importantly, sucralose must break down in the digestive system. If it didn't break down and react at all (as the manufacturer claims), it would not chemically-react on the tongue to provide a sweet taste. The truth is that sucralose does break down to some extent in the digestive system. Independent, Long-Term Human Research None. Manufacturer's "100's of studies" (some of which show hazards) were clearly inadequate and do not demonstrate safety in long-term use. Chlorinated Pesticides The manufacturer claims that the chlorine added to sucralose is similar to the chlorine atom in the salt (NaCl) molecule. That is not the case. Sucralose may be more like ingesting tiny amounts of chlorinated pesticides, but we will never know without long-term, independent human research. Conclusion While it is unlikely that sucralose is as toxic as the poisoning people are experiencing from Monsanto's aspartame, it is clear from the hazards seen in pre-approval research and from its chemical structure that years or decades of use may contribute to serious chronic immunological or neurological disorders. There are natural sweeteners that make excellent sugar substitutes. My favorite is lo han fruit extract, sold as SlimSweet or other brand names. Xylitol and stevia are also very good substitutes, and are less expensive than SlimSweet. You can usually find them at your nearest health food store, or you can order them off the WWW. See: lo han (SlimSweet) - http://www.lifesvigor.com/prod/15579/ xylitol - http://www.xylitol.org/ stevia - http://www.healthy.net/nutrit/kitchen/foods/stevia.asp Sadly, after my DIL showed me stevia I began using it last summer..in a couple months it gave me the exact same reaction as Splenda does (but w/worse ab cramps). So (grrrrr) I went back to Equal, which I use as little as possible. >> Has anyone here heard of anyone having problems with Splenda (Sucralose)? >> I've been using it and I like the taste, but then decided to do a web [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > xylitol - http://www.xylitol.org/ > stevia - http://www.healthy.net/nutrit/kitchen/foods/stevia.asp > Sadly, after my DIL showed me stevia I began using it > last summer..in a couple months it gave me the exact same reaction as > Splenda does (but w/worse ab cramps). So (grrrrr) I went back to Equal, > which I use as little as possible. Some people are known to have a stevia allergy or intolerance. As well, the extract in powdered form is mixed with maltodextrin to prevent clumping, and some folks might also react badly to that. SlimSweet and xylitol might be better options. > From http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-sweeteners.html: > [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] > or decades of use may contribute to serious chronic immunological or > neurological disorders. Well what she says may be true. But considering she is selling a book, and does not provide any links or references - other than perhaps in the book - makes her claims seem questionable. Perhaps mean't to help sell her book? I would check into her claims at other sites or with the FDA or other organizations before accepting the above. Without knowing the details of the pre-approval research it cannot be judged just on what she said. > Has anyone here heard of anyone having problems with Splenda (Sucralose)? > I've been using it and I like the taste, but then decided to do a web search [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > problems it causes. I'm trying to find out from anyone who may have had > personal experience with it or knows someone who has. Anyone? I have a lot of trouble with artificial sweeteners, but Splenda is the one I can handle (though I don't do very much of it anyway.) > Has anyone here heard of anyone having problems with Splenda (Sucralose)? ... > Hugs, > CatNipped No experience with Splenda. We use Stevia drops to sweeten drinks. It also comes in a granular form. It is sweeter than sugar. It only takes a drop for a cup of iced tea. A dropper will sweeten a gallon. Look it up and check it out. Annie You may want to try Stevia if you only want something for your coffee. It is a herb used for sweetening and is available in health food store. It comes in small leaves like tea or in powder form. I used to add it to tea but now I usually drink my tea straight. Winnie > Has anyone here heard of anyone having problems with Splenda (Sucralose)? > I've been using it and I like the taste, but then decided to do a web [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > medical problems it causes. I'm trying to find out from anyone who may > have had personal experience with it or knows someone who has. Anyone? > Has anyone here heard of anyone having problems with Splenda > (Sucralose)? I've been using it and I like the taste, but then [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I'm trying to find out from anyone who may have had personal > experience with it or knows someone who has. Anyone? I use it all the time and so do most of my friends and I've never heard of anyone having a problem. I also like and use Stevia, it's much sweeter than Splenda and 1 packet sweetens 2 litres. You can't bake with it though, but then again, I don't bake. -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album "CatNipped" <lcrews@houston.rr.com> had some very interesting things to say about [OT] Splenda?: >Has anyone here heard of anyone having problems with Splenda (Sucralose)? >I've been using it and I like the taste, but then decided to do a web search [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >problems it causes. I'm trying to find out from anyone who may have had >personal experience with it or knows someone who has. Anyone? AFAICT, DH has no trouble with it at all (he's diabetic, so has checked out a rather wide range of available artificial sweeteners). Signature"The universe is quite robust in design and appears to be doing just fine on its own, incompetent support staff notwithstanding. :-)" - the Dennis formerly known as (evil), MCFL |
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