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Debbie Wilson - 17 May 2005 22:11 GMT The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin...
"Dear Debbie,
I have just got back from the hospital and its very good news. The tumour was 'stage one' and so it is unlikely to have spread to any other area. Tina will have to have a mild form of chemotherapy but she is expected to make a full recovery. Purrs seem to have worked. She is comfortable in bed, pressing the morphine button every few minutes, and sleeping a lot, so I was happy to leave her to sleep.
A very grateful Margi"
Yeah!!! :-)))
Keep those purrs coming folks!!
Deb.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 17 May 2005 22:24 GMT > "Dear Debbie, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > A very grateful Margi" WAHOOOOOOOOO!!!
That's just wonderful news.
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jmcquown - 17 May 2005 22:27 GMT > The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Deb. Fantastic! Purrs still on for Tina. And obviously she doesn't have to worry about the lack of attention when she has pain since she has one of those self-medicating buttons. I know she was worried about that.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 17 May 2005 22:32 GMT > Fantastic! Purrs still on for Tina. And obviously she doesn't have > to worry about the lack of attention when she has pain since she has > one of those self-medicating buttons. I know she was worried about > that. I hope you're right. IIRC, those buttons will only give you so much over a given amount of time. My guess is that morphine is only one of several pain meds she's getting.
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Steve Touchstone - 18 May 2005 03:07 GMT >> Fantastic! Purrs still on for Tina. And obviously she doesn't have >> to worry about the lack of attention when she has pain since she has [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >over a given amount of time. My guess is that morphine is only one of >several pain meds she's getting. As I understand it, a large part of pain management is giving the patient control. One of my uncles went through it, and he actually used less pain meds than he would have according to the doctor's orders. He said the biggest difference was that once he was given control and he didn't have to worry about waiting for a nurse to administer the medication, he took less because he knew get it when he needed it.
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Monique Y. Mudama - 18 May 2005 03:18 GMT > As I understand it, a large part of pain management is giving the > patient control. One of my uncles went through it, and he actually [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > administer the medication, he took less because he knew get it when he > needed it. That makes sense. I hope that's the case and I hope Tweed isn't too miserable.
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Jo Firey - 18 May 2005 04:18 GMT >>> Fantastic! Purrs still on for Tina. And obviously she doesn't have >>> to worry about the lack of attention when she has pain since she has [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > administer the medication, he took less because he knew get it when he > needed it. Its absolutely true. Part of it is the anxiety of waiting for someone to bring your pain meds makes you focus on the pain and makes it harder to tolerate. If you know you have relief at hand, its much easier not to think about it.
Jo
Howard Berkowitz - 18 May 2005 06:13 GMT > >> Fantastic! Purrs still on for Tina. And obviously she doesn't have > >> to worry about the lack of attention when she has pain since she has [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > administer the medication, he took less because he knew get it when he > needed it. Very accurate description. The other important thing is that the basic dose of pain medication should be taken on a regular basis as long as there is severe pain, not waiting until it hurts a lot. Good prescribing will give a patient both a steady "maintenance" dose, plus an addition "rescue" drug for pain breakthroughs.
The idea of control is tremendously important. Good nursing staffs empower it, and where there is a problem, you need either a very assertive patient or a patient advocate.
Not that it is relevant in this case, but one of the strongest arguments for control being helpful is the experience in the US state of Oregon, which is the only US state that has legalized physicians, with substantial controls, to prescribe lethal medications to patients in terminal disease. Now that there is a few years of experience, it turns out that relatively few of these patients ever use those drugs -- not due to fear, but knowing that they have the ultimate ability to control things should pain or other factors make life intolerable.
hobbs - 19 May 2005 10:56 GMT I had one of those when I had both knees replaced at the same time I didn't use it that much either, but it was too much for me anyway when the Physiotherapist {sp?} asked my Daughter 'is your mother always like this we decided to get rid of it apparenly I was away with the fairies LOL Jean.P.
> >> Fantastic! Purrs still on for Tina. And obviously she doesn't have > >> to worry about the lack of attention when she has pain since she has [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html > Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html Jane - 19 May 2005 14:50 GMT >As I understand it, a large part of pain management is giving the >patient control. One of my uncles went through it, and he actually [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >administer the medication, he took less because he knew get it when he >needed it. Did you know that they give morphine buttons to 4-yr-olds? I was surprised. My niece had major surgery at that age, and when I visited, she had one. Of course, my sister had the control, but still, my niece could ask for it, and did. Poor baby. It's hard to see such a little one in that much pain. She is unfortunately a hard veteran of hospitals, having spent most of her first year in there, waiting for a liver transplant. (yes, we found one in time)
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Howard Berkowitz - 19 May 2005 18:05 GMT > >As I understand it, a large part of pain management is giving the > >patient control. One of my uncles went through it, and he actually [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Jane > - owned and operated by Princess Rita For that matter, there are fentanyl lollipops. Fentanyl is about 100 times as potent as morphine, and can be used as a surgical anesthetic.
The lollipops, for example, might be 30 minutes or so before a short painful procedure like a dressing change.
Lisa Katt - 17 May 2005 22:28 GMT Debbie Wilson skrev i meddelandet <1gwq880.10ery7qjisvm0N%djmaizels@mac.com>...
>The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Deb. That is indeed wonderful! Sending more purrs. Elisabet and Hugo Katt
Kreisleriana - 17 May 2005 22:29 GMT >The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >A very grateful Margi" Wow. That is very good news. Thanks so much for keeping us posted.
>Yeah!!! :-))) > >Keep those purrs coming folks!! > >Deb. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Smokie Darling (Annie) - 18 May 2005 01:09 GMT > >The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh > My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com Yee Haw!!! That is absotively posolutely the MOST fantabulous news. Continuing Purrs, Prayers (and songs that you should be grateful you can't hear, I'm a bit hoarse).
Afvcke Estoke (Joyful Noise).
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Lesley - 18 May 2005 13:14 GMT Happy dancing!!!!! The Furballs will get extra ham for all the purring they're doing for Tweed and its working- they gotta keep their strength up for all the purring!!!!
So mega PPPPUUUURRRRR from Redunzel and Sarrasine and happy thoughts from their slave
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SuzQ - 17 May 2005 22:44 GMT Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Wonderful news healing purrs coming. Suz&Spicey
Howard Berkowitz - 17 May 2005 22:51 GMT > The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Deb. I like hearing that she has a morphine button and presumably a PCA device for pain. The experience of most patients is once they emotionally accept that button will work, they use it far less.
Of course, the staging is the best news.
If you like, give my email -- and I can send you other contact information -- if it might be useful for them to have someone that can answer or research medical questions.
Debbie Wilson - 18 May 2005 09:42 GMT > If you like, give my email -- and I can send you other contact > information -- if it might be useful for them to have someone that can > answer or research medical questions. I'll pass on your kind offer, Howard - thank you.
Deb.
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Yowie - 17 May 2005 23:01 GMT > The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Keep those purrs coming folks!! YeeeeeHaaaaah!
WooooooooHoooooooo!
Yipeeeeeeeeeee!
HaPpY DaNcE!!!!!
Thats wonderful news. Purrs will continue, of course, but am really happy to hear this.
Yowie
Helen Miles - 17 May 2005 23:01 GMT she is
> expected to make a full recovery. WOOHOO!!!!!
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Christine Burel - 17 May 2005 23:27 GMT WOOO HOOO! What awesome news! Thank you, Debbie! Christine
> The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Deb. Irulan - 17 May 2005 23:39 GMT oh, wonderful news all around. Plus the fact that she has that pain-killer in her hands under her control. She was so afraid of not having that. I'm so happy to hear she is doing well all around. Jazz & his mama
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> The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Deb. Victor Martinez - 17 May 2005 23:50 GMT > expected to make a full recovery. Purrs seem to have worked. She is Excellent news!
> comfortable in bed, pressing the morphine button every few minutes, and Hey, if I had a morphine button I'd be pressing it often too! :)
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Howard Berkowitz - 18 May 2005 01:27 GMT > > expected to make a full recovery. Purrs seem to have worked. She is > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Hey, if I had a morphine button I'd be pressing it often too! :) On PCA, she will be getting a continuous but low-level dose of morphine, whether she pushes the button or not. Continuous low dose minimizes side effects such as nausea, and avoids the anxiety of a dose wearing off. Pushing the button gives additional drug, but there is, as some have suggested, a lockout so that it will give only a safe quantity in a given time.
It's entirely possible there were some long-acting anesthetics in the epidural.
L. (usenetlyn) - 19 May 2005 10:56 GMT > On PCA, she will be getting a continuous but low-level dose of morphine, > whether she pushes the button or not. Continuous low dose minimizes side > effects such as nausea, and avoids the anxiety of a dose wearing off.
> Pushing the button gives additional drug, but there is, as some have > suggested, a lockout so that it will give only a safe quantity in a > given time. > > It's entirely possible there were some long-acting anesthetics in the
> epidural. Is continuous morphine drip considered the most effective method of pain control? The reason I ask is because morphine didn't do diddly-squat for me when I had surgery recently - they ended up giving me something that started with a T and later something that was a barbituate that knocked me on my butt, finally. But the morphine repeatedly didn't do much. I'm just wondering why.
-L.
Howard Berkowitz - 19 May 2005 16:19 GMT > > On PCA, she will be getting a continuous but low-level dose of > morphine, [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Is continuous morphine drip considered the most effective method of > pain control? Continuous drip, but not necessarily with morphine.
>The reason I ask is because morphine didn't do > diddly-squat for me when I had surgery recently - they ended up giving > me something that started with a T and later something that was a > barbituate that knocked me on my butt, finally. But the morphine > repeatedly didn't do much. I'm just wondering why. Synthetic and natural opioids -- a more accurate term than opiates or narcotics, because it refers to anything, including endorphins, that stimulate certain brain receptors -- are in several chemical classes. Morphine, heroin, and codeine, for example, all are in the same class, and get converted by the body into the same actual chemical that causes pain relief.
It's certainly plausible that one class doesn't work, and there are times where morphine isn't the drug of choice. For example, you tend to avoid morphine in gall bladder disease, because it causes spasm of a particular muscle there.
The class led by meperidine (pethidine in the UK, trade name Demerol) is OK for short-term use, but it builds up a toxic by-product when used for long periods. It's also less likely to cause nausea than the morphine groups, one of the reasons why it's preferred over morphine for migraine "rescue".
Could the drug have been Toradol (generic name ketorolac)? That's a very interesting drug -- it is the only nonsteroidal antiinflammatory drug (e.g., ibuprofen) that can be injected as well as taken orally, but is not in any way related to opioids. It can, however, give pain relief in the same range as morphine.
Another possibility, less likely because it's a weaker drug, is tramadol. While tramadol is chemically related to the opioids, there's no history of addiction. It's popular for long-term pain control in arthritis.
L. (usenetlyn) - 20 May 2005 09:16 GMT > Could the drug have been Toradol (generic name ketorolac)? That's a > very interesting drug -- it is the only nonsteroidal antiinflammatory
> drug (e.g., ibuprofen) that can be injected as well as taken orally, but > is not in any way related to opioids. It can, however, give pain relief > in the same range as morphine. I think that was it. I was having emergency GB removal, BTW, and they kept pumping me full of morphine. I kept telling them it wasn't strong enough. Um, HELLO! Now I know why!!
I had more pain prior to surgery than after - had one stone the size of a marble stuck in the bile duct. They eventually gave me the Toradol and then something stronger - I slept until the doc could get there to do the surgery. It was some good stuff! ;)
Thanks for all the info. It was my first experience with real surgery, so I was intrigued by the whole process. And I now think that people who go through elective surgery are major nuts!
-L.
Howard Berkowitz - 20 May 2005 11:06 GMT > > Could the drug have been Toradol (generic name ketorolac)? That's a > > very interesting drug -- it is the only nonsteroidal antiinflammatory [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > I had more pain prior to surgery than after - had one stone the size of > a marble stuck in the bile duct. Ugh. A little anatomy, simplifying a little. The gall bladder is a separate organ attached to the side of the liver. It produces bile, which is needed for the digestion of fats. A series of tubes called the biliary tree eventually joins the common duct, where pancreatic digestive enzymes mix at the Ampulla of Vater, and the combination enters the intestine, through a valve on the Ampulla, called the Sphincter of Oddi.
Gallstones cause pain when they block any of these ducts or other structures up to and including the outlet valve.
Morphine can cause spasm of the Sphincter of Oddi, doing approximately what a gallstone there would do. Other families of opioids, such as meperidine (Demerol, pethidine in the UK), were thought not to do so, but recent work shows that meperidine can even be worse. Indeed, more and more undesirable things are being found about meperidine. It may induce less nausea than morphine, but morphine nausea is not a given. Meperidine is starting to go out of use at some hospitals. You also can't give meperidine over a period of more than a couple of days, or a toxic metabolite builds up.
>They eventually gave me the Toradol > and then something stronger - I slept until the doc could get there to > do the surgery. It was some good stuff! ;) Non-opioids like Toradol seem to be the drugs of choice in abdominal pain, or possibly Talwin (pentazocine), which isn't very powerful. A little paradoxically, the synthetic fentanyl, related to morphine, can be used for anesthesia, and is much shorter-acting and more controllable in an IV than morphine. Since it can take you into anesthesia, that may have been the second drug.
Unfortunately, morphine has a weird effect on cats -- it doesn't do much for pain, but does make them hyperactive. It can't be used with them.
> Thanks for all the info. It was my first experience with real surgery, > so I was intrigued by the whole process. And I now think that people > who go through elective surgery are major nuts! > > -L. Jo Firey - 20 May 2005 21:22 GMT > Unfortunately, morphine has a weird effect on cats -- it doesn't do much > for pain, but does make them hyperactive. It can't be used with them. So I've got some cat genes I guess }~)
My mother and I both have a paradoxal reaction to opiates. They do work for pain thank God, but also work as a stimulant. Makes us lots of fun as hospital patients. Mom was inclined to scream a lot. I just have hallucinations and get weird.
Jo
Howard Berkowitz - 20 May 2005 11:08 GMT Correction to my last post---fentanyl is a derivative of meperidine, but probably less toxic.
Incidentally, if opioids are given into the spinal fluid, as with an epidural, you may avoid some of the organ effects.
Jo Firey - 18 May 2005 02:00 GMT >> expected to make a full recovery. Purrs seem to have worked. She is > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Hey, if I had a morphine button I'd be pressing it often too! :) When I have one, I can pretty much keep myself amused for hours watching the clock for the time interval before the button works again. Of course that generates quite a few naps and that's good too.
Jo
Gabey8 - 18 May 2005 00:03 GMT [[The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin...
"Dear Debbie,
I have just got back from the hospital and its very good news. The tumour was 'stage one' and so it is unlikely to have spread to any other area. Tina will have to have a mild form of chemotherapy but she is expected to make a full recovery. Purrs seem to have worked. She is comfortable in bed, pressing the morphine button every few minutes, and sleeping a lot, so I was happy to leave her to sleep.
A very grateful Margi"
Yeah!!! :-)))
Keep those purrs coming folks!!
Deb.]]
I can't think of better news! Prayers, purrs, good thoughts, and every other positive vibe I can send are continuing!
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Yoj - 18 May 2005 00:20 GMT > The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Deb. What a relief! I'm sure it must be a relief to Tweed too. Now maybe she can relax, which I'm sure will hasten her recovery. Purrs will definitely continue.
Joy
O J - 18 May 2005 00:40 GMT Yahoo!! What great news. We're continuing to purr for her complete recovery.
-- Regards and Purrs, O J
Catnipped - 18 May 2005 00:55 GMT > The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > A very grateful Margi" YYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!
Hooray! HaPpY dAnCiNg all over the freakin' place! Whoohooopppp-di-doooo! Purrs really, really *DO* work!
Hugs,
CatNipped
> Yeah!!! :-))) > > Keep those purrs coming folks!! > > Deb. Mary - 18 May 2005 01:01 GMT > > The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > Hooray! HaPpY dAnCiNg all over the freakin' place! Whoohooopppp-di-doooo! > Purrs really, really *DO* work! Wonderful news!
Jeanette - 18 May 2005 01:04 GMT > The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > -- > http://www.scientific-art.com Oh that is FANTASTIC NEWS!
I am so happy for her!
Jeanette
Karen AKA Kajikit - 18 May 2005 01:40 GMT >The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >A very grateful Margi" That's wonderful news! I know how scared she was about this... but it sounds like they got her cancer out in good time :)
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Hopitus - 18 May 2005 01:43 GMT I am so grateful.
>>The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... >> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > That's wonderful news! I know how scared she was about this... but it > sounds like they got her cancer out in good time :) Charleen Welton - 18 May 2005 01:55 GMT This is so excellent! We are so glad and happy here except for the fact that the darn moniter seems to be developing MMS! More purrs and prayers on the way. Charleen Mr. Pumpkin, Aggie Marble, Victor Velcro
Takayuki - 18 May 2005 03:01 GMT >The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >comfortable in bed, pressing the morphine button every few minutes, and >sleeping a lot, so I was happy to leave her to sleep. What great news! "Mild chemotherapy" sounds good. I know people who have gone through fairly mild chemo, and they even got to keep most of their hair. :)
Steve Touchstone - 18 May 2005 03:07 GMT >The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >A very grateful Margi" Great news. Looking forward to more
>Yeah!!! :-))) > >Keep those purrs coming folks!! the purrs are still being sent
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Marina - 18 May 2005 03:34 GMT > The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Keep those purrs coming folks!! Oh, that's wonderful! And she gets to take the meds whenever she needs them. That was one of her biggest worries. Great news all around.
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Jeanne Hedge - 18 May 2005 03:44 GMT Yippee! I *knew* it was going to work out!!!
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CATherine - 18 May 2005 03:49 GMT >The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >Deb. This is good news. It will be great when she is well enough to come home and resume her farm duties. I know she loves her critters and worries about them. Purrs and prayers are continuing.
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Karen - 18 May 2005 04:29 GMT > The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Deb. YIIIIIIPPPPPPEEEEE!!!!!!!!! Healing purrs in full gear!!!!!! That is marvelous!!!!!!
badwilson - 18 May 2005 05:57 GMT > The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Deb. Yay! What awesome news!!! Happy dancing here :-) -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
Sam Nash - 18 May 2005 06:35 GMT > The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Keep those purrs coming folks!! Superb news! HaPpY DaNcInG all around. Purrs still coming that the recovery is uneventful and as pain-free as possible. Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe
Exocat - 18 May 2005 08:18 GMT Tremendous! Maintenance purrs for continued improvement are continuing
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> The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > "Dear Debbie, [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and > sleeping a lot, so I was happy to leave her to sleep. wafflycat - 18 May 2005 11:51 GMT > The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > A very grateful Margi" Excellent news! Thanks for posting this Deb.
Cheers, helen s
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 18 May 2005 18:55 GMT >The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Deb. That is wonderful news! Purrs still resounding for a full recovery.
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Adrian - 18 May 2005 19:57 GMT > The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. > Greenfield The best pssible news under the circumstances. Hopefully she be home in a few weeks, well on the road to recovery. Continuing daily purrs.
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Judith Latham - 22 May 2005 19:59 GMT > > The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. > > Greenfield
> The best pssible news under the circumstances. Hopefully she be home in > a few weeks, well on the road to recovery. Continuing daily purrs. That's good news. Prayers for her swift and complete recovery.
Judith
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hobbs - 19 May 2005 10:50 GMT Thats wonderful news .Best news heard in a loooomg time hurrah for Christina. Jean.P.
> The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > "He looked a fierce and quarrelsome cat, but claw he never would; > He only bit the ones he loved, because they tasted good." S. Greenfield Jane - 19 May 2005 14:26 GMT Wow. Oh wow. I didn't even realize how caught up in this I was until I read this message, and got tears in my eyes. I'm so happy to hear this news!! Thanks for the message. *sniff* Now I have to go to a meeting and tell everyone it's allergies... lol
Jane
>The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Deb. Lesley - 19 May 2005 14:32 GMT "Now I have to go to a meeting and tell everyone it's allergies... lol"
You as well? I know a couple of people on this ng who have claimed allergies as an explanation as to why they are wiping their eyes....I am one of the worse offenders....
How much longer before the medical profession thinks ng's like this cause increased allergies????
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polonca12000 - 19 May 2005 21:31 GMT Wow, I'm so very happy to hear that! Continued purrs and best wishes for Christina and thank you for letting us know, Debbie,
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> The latest, wonderful news from Christine's cousin... > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Deb. Tanadashoes - 22 May 2005 19:41 GMT Deb,
Would you ask Christine's cousin where we can send post hospital cards and letters? There is no way I could get one to her in the hospital. I'd like to send her at least one or two cards.
Thanks,
Pam S. who's been hauling kittens off her monitor, legs, desk, printer, cpu, keyboard, and out of her trash can. I'm swamped
Kreisleriana - 22 May 2005 20:03 GMT >Deb, > >Would you ask Christine's cousin where we can send post hospital cards and >letters? There is no way I could get one to her in the hospital. I'd >like to send her at least one or two cards. I'm sure several of us would like to do this.
>Thanks, > >Pam S. who's been hauling kittens off her monitor, legs, desk, printer, >cpu, keyboard, and out of her trash can. I'm swamped Someone should patent "bitty waders." ;)
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Debbie Wilson - 22 May 2005 20:14 GMT > >Deb, > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > I'm sure several of us would like to do this. Hi - here it is, I think Adrian posted it earlier as well. Christine will be here at her aunt and uncle's house from Wednesday onwards:
Christine Websell c/o 22 Baldwin Road LEICESTER LE2 6HA United Kingdom
Deb.
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CK - 22 May 2005 20:22 GMT >>>Deb, >>> [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Deb. Not that I'm splitting hairs or anything, but isn't Tweed's name ChristinA, not ChristinE?? Not sure if she's as fussy about her name as I am about mine... :)
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Debbie Wilson - 22 May 2005 20:45 GMT > > Christine Websell > > c/o 22 Baldwin Road [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > ChristinA, not ChristinE?? Not sure if she's as fussy about her name as > I am about mine... :) Whoops - you are quite right! Thank you for pointing that out! Yes, it is Christina Websell.
Thanks Christine!
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Kreisleriana - 23 May 2005 04:04 GMT >> >Deb, >> > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >LE2 6HA >United Kingdom Many thanks.
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