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jmcquown - 17 May 2005 22:10 GMT
How did the interview yesterday go?  Did you come away with positive
feelings or no?

Jill (purrs still heading that way)
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Dan and Nancy Mahoney - 18 May 2005 01:03 GMT
> How did the interview yesterday go?  Did you come away with positive
> feelings or no?
>
> Jill (purrs still heading that way)

That's difficult to answer. It was very mixed. We did a lot of talking
about past experience and generalities, and that went great. Then they
had me speak with technical types who gave me real-life skills tests.
Put me in front of a keyboard, describe a task they want done, and have
me do it.  Pretty simple stuff except for one thing - I get a nasty case
of brain-fade when I'm situations like that. Stuff that I know and use
every day just completely evaporates.

But I managed to work my way through. All of the major stuff they asked
me to do I was eventually able to do.

I'm hoping that the ovreall impression I made was favorable. I think
maybe so, since they have begun to call my references.

Dan
Charleen Welton - 18 May 2005 01:59 GMT
> That's difficult to answer. It was very mixed. We did a lot of talking
> about past experience and generalities, and that went great. Then they
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>
> Dan

Fingers crossed, purrs and prayers headed your way that they chose you and
let you know soon!  What has Nancy heard from the newspaper?
Charleen
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Dan and Nancy Mahoney - 18 May 2005 03:13 GMT
> Fingers crossed, purrs and prayers headed your way that they chose you and
> let you know soon!  What has Nancy heard from the newspaper?
> Charleen
> Mr. Pumpkin,
> Aggie Marble,
> Victor Velcro

It's driving her crazy! It's now 3, maybe 4 weeks since the interview?
And she's heard nothing. On the positive side, though, she overheard her
boss in a phone call yesterday (hard to avoid, since everybody sits
really close together and even the boss is only 15 or 20 feet away) in
which it sounded like he was being told that he was losing one of his
employees to the parent newspaper. From what Nancy overheard, it sounds
like her boss has been informed that Nancy is going to be hired by the
big paper. But nobody has contacted her yet.
Monique Y. Mudama - 18 May 2005 04:22 GMT
> It's driving her crazy! It's now 3, maybe 4 weeks since the
> interview?  And she's heard nothing. On the positive side, though,
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Nancy is going to be hired by the big paper. But nobody has
> contacted her yet.

If it's been that long, couldn't she politely follow up with the
person who contacted her about the job?

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Dan and Nancy Mahoney - 18 May 2005 04:59 GMT
> If it's been that long, couldn't she politely follow up with the
> person who contacted her about the job?

This guy is notoriously hard to get hold of my phone. Nancy has e-mailed
the guy two or three times but not received an answer.

Today was Nancy's day off (she gets Sundays and Tuesdays off). We're
hoping that she'll get the offer tomorrow.  Actually, tomorrow's a busy
day. Nancy is hoping to get her job offer, I go to see the surgeon about
my hernia tomorrow afternoon, and since we've heard nothing from the
other guy's insurance company and it's been a week since we got
rear-ended, I've set tomorrow at noon as the deadline for hearing from
his insurance company before I complain to the state insurance commission.
Jo Firey - 18 May 2005 02:03 GMT
> I'm hoping that the ovreall impression I made was favorable. I think maybe
> so, since they have begun to call my references.
>
> Dan

That is very good news.  They certainly wouldn't bother unless they were
pretty interested.  That should at least lead to a higher up interview and
would put them into the position to make an offer.

Jo
Takayuki - 18 May 2005 03:00 GMT
>But I managed to work my way through. All of the major stuff they asked
>me to do I was eventually able to do.
>
>I'm hoping that the ovreall impression I made was favorable. I think
>maybe so, since they have begun to call my references.

That's great!  You must have felt a little out of practice, but you
make it sound easy, like getting back on a bike.  I hope you get the
job.
Monique Y. Mudama - 18 May 2005 04:21 GMT
> That's difficult to answer. It was very mixed. We did a lot of
> talking about past experience and generalities, and that went great.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> that. Stuff that I know and use every day just completely
> evaporates.

I don't know a single person who doesn't get brain-fade to some degree
in those situations.  I went to an interview on Friday for a PHP job.
They asked me to write out a simple HTML form on the whiteboard; I
kind of stared at them.  It's actually been a year since I wrote my
last serious PHP thing, and longer since I've touched HTML.  I said,
"Uh, I wrote my own libraries to do this in PHP so that I never have
to type a bracket again."  Don't think that impressed them ...  I did
eventually stumble through it, though.  If I just played with the
language for a day or two, I'd be on the ball ... but I hadn't.  The
suddenness of the interview took me by surprise.

> But I managed to work my way through. All of the major stuff they
> asked me to do I was eventually able to do.

Yay!

> I'm hoping that the ovreall impression I made was favorable. I think
> maybe so, since they have begun to call my references.

I'd say that's a very good sign.  They didn't even bother to call
references at my last job until they'd already verbally discussed a
job offer with me.

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Dan and Nancy Mahoney - 18 May 2005 04:56 GMT
> I don't know a single person who doesn't get brain-fade to some degree
> in those situations.  I went to an interview on Friday for a PHP job.
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> language for a day or two, I'd be on the ball ... but I hadn't.  The
> suddenness of the interview took me by surprise.

Likewise! This interview was for a Linux admin/PHP programmer position,
and I've been driving a truck for the last 15 months. I think I spent a
total of 3 hours working with PHP to teach myself the language before
the interview, but it's so similar to Perl (which I've done for the last
8 years or so) I think I'm in ok shape.

What was something of a hinderance was the keyboard. When I'd press "
I'd get @; to get " I had to press shift-2. The pipe character (|)
couldn't be rendered from the keyboard at all. Neither could the
backslash. Made things a bit difficult.

> I'd say that's a very good sign.  They didn't even bother to call
> references at my last job until they'd already verbally discussed a
> job offer with me.

I'm sure hoping so. I felt like kicking myself on the way out, but maybe
I did better than I thought.  We'll see.
Monique Y. Mudama - 18 May 2005 05:25 GMT
> Likewise! This interview was for a Linux admin/PHP programmer
> position, and I've been driving a truck for the last 15 months. I
> think I spent a total of 3 hours working with PHP to teach myself
> the language before the interview, but it's so similar to Perl
> (which I've done for the last 8 years or so) I think I'm in ok
> shape.

Honestly, I don't think it would have occured to me to bone up on
HTML.  Not the basic syntax.  The last thing I did in PHP was to write
a plugin to my blog that chooses a random quote from a file and prints
it.  Sure, there's a <p> here and a <br> there, but ...

> What was something of a hinderance was the keyboard. When I'd press
> " I'd get @; to get " I had to press shift-2. The pipe character (|)
> couldn't be rendered from the keyboard at all. Neither could the
> backslash. Made things a bit difficult.

Eh?  That doesn't even sound like a Sun keyboard ...

>> I'd say that's a very good sign.  They didn't even bother to call
>> references at my last job until they'd already verbally discussed a
>> job offer with me.
>
> I'm sure hoping so. I felt like kicking myself on the way out, but
> maybe I did better than I thought.  We'll see.

I feel like that after every interview =P "Doh, I could've said this
here, and I should've kept my mouth shut about that there ..."

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Rrb - 18 May 2005 05:43 GMT
>>That's difficult to answer. It was very mixed. We did a lot of
>>talking about past experience and generalities, and that went great.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> language for a day or two, I'd be on the ball ... but I hadn't.  The
> suddenness of the interview took me by surprise.

I understand what you're saying, and hope you get a job soon. I was laid
off in 2003 - after a few months the same company hired me
back. In the three months that I was unemployed I realized how rusty my
job skills are in some areas, and how out of date they are in
others. Since then I have been trying to freshen up some of the areas. I
have been re-reading my programming language books, and
subscribed to the programming languages newsgroups in question. I try
out programming questions or examples that are posted in the
newsgroups to help keep up with things. Maybe you can use this to keep
things fresh? Good luck in any case.

rrb

to date.
jmcquown - 18 May 2005 04:28 GMT
>> How did the interview yesterday go?  Did you come away with positive
>> feelings or no?
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> nasty case of brain-fade when I'm situations like that. Stuff that I
> know and use every day just completely evaporates.

I know exactly what you mean!  Yes, you know it.  But it's difficult in a
"test" environment.

Still, we found the tests (not keyboard, rather think about it and write
down your answers type tests) useful.  We had a LOT of people at my former
employer internally who would apply for a position simply because of the pay
grade, not because they were in any way qualified.  If they couldn't answer
a few simple technical questions (and trust me, these were SIMPLE questions)
we pretty much tossed them out of the running.  I remember hearing one woman
say to someone after she was informed she didn't get the job "Oh, they don't
really have to do all that stuff."  Really?  ps -ef grep [this] woman!  All
she could do was read and answer email!  And you couldn't understand her
email, either.

They will know you know your stuff.  Purrs!

> But I managed to work my way through. All of the major stuff they
> asked me to do I was eventually able to do.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Dan

That's excellent!  No reason to call your references if you aren't in the
running!

Jill
Yoj - 18 May 2005 06:56 GMT
> > How did the interview yesterday go?  Did you come away with positive
> > feelings or no?
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>
> Dan

I would definitely consider it a good sign if they are calling your
references.  Employers don't usually waste time doing that unless they are
seriously interested.  Purrs will continue.

Joy
Adrian - 18 May 2005 19:50 GMT
>> How did the interview yesterday go?  Did you come away with positive
>> feelings or no?
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>
> Dan

It sounds hopeful, keeping paws crossed and purrs coming.
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hobbs - 24 May 2005 14:05 GMT
Purrs still traveling at speed toward you from ginger
Wilson and myself   Jean..P.

> >> How did the interview yesterday go?  Did you come away with positive
> >> feelings or no?
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> Adrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera)
> A house is not a home, without a cat.
Dan and Nancy Mahoney - 25 May 2005 00:30 GMT
> Purrs still traveling at speed toward you from ginger
> Wilson and myself   Jean..P.

Still looking promising. Got invited back for a 2nd interview tomorrow
(Wednesday).

Dan
Charleen Welton - 25 May 2005 01:19 GMT
> > Purrs still traveling at speed toward you from ginger
> > Wilson and myself   Jean..P.
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>
> Dan

Super wonderful.  Let us hear the out come as soon as possible!

Have the newspaper people made up their minds yet as to which wonderful
position they are going to offer Nancy?

Charleen
Dan and Nancy Mahoney - 25 May 2005 02:10 GMT
> Super wonderful.  Let us hear the out come as soon as possible!

Will do.

> Have the newspaper people made up their minds yet as to which wonderful
> position they are going to offer Nancy?

If they have, they haven't chosen to share the info with Nancy yet.
Karen - 25 May 2005 01:22 GMT
>> Purrs still traveling at speed toward you from ginger
>> Wilson and myself   Jean..P.
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>
> Dan
Kewl!
Elise - 25 May 2005 02:43 GMT
>> Purrs still traveling at speed toward you from ginger
>> Wilson and myself   Jean..P.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Dan

Purr, purr, purr, purr, purr

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Marina - 25 May 2005 03:25 GMT
>> Purrs still traveling at speed toward you from ginger
>> Wilson and myself   Jean..P.
>
> Still looking promising. Got invited back for a 2nd interview tomorrow
> (Wednesday).

That's wonderful, Dan. I so hope you get the job. Purrs still a-coming.

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Sam Nash - 25 May 2005 03:48 GMT
>> Purrs still traveling at speed toward you from ginger
>> Wilson and myself   Jean..P.
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>
> Dan
Great, Dan!  Here's hoping it comes through.
Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe
Dan and Nancy Mahoney - 25 May 2005 20:55 GMT
> Great, Dan!  Here's hoping it comes through.
> Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe

Thank you much! I'll be meeting with them at 7:30 tonight. I guess they
really *do* need another admin if they're still working at 7:30 PM!
Dan and Nancy Mahoney - 26 May 2005 07:17 GMT
Since my interview was in the evening, Nancy rode to Orange County with
me so we could go out to dinner after my interview. On the way down she
called the corporate Web guy in Woodland Hills. She has the job! She's
now the web content manager for the San Bernardino Sun newspaper. It
will be a week or two before she can take over that job full-time, but
she starts attending content meetings this week.

My interview went pretty well. I was able to ask the questions they
asked, and I didn't experience my usual brain-fade. They told me that
they received 50 resumes, invited 10 people in for interviews, then
brought 4 of us back for 2nd interviews. They will be making their final
decision in the next few days. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed
about this one!

Of course, the telecommute position with the folks in Tempe, AZ would
also be pretty sweet...
Sandy - 26 May 2005 07:28 GMT
Good luck, Dan, and Congratulations to Nancy!  Will you give us the paper's
web address so we can see what Nancy comes up with?

Sandy

> Since my interview was in the evening, Nancy rode to Orange County with me
> so we could go out to dinner after my interview. On the way down she
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Of course, the telecommute position with the folks in Tempe, AZ would also
> be pretty sweet...
CK - 26 May 2005 18:20 GMT
> Good luck, Dan, and Congratulations to Nancy!  Will you give us the paper's
> web address so we can see what Nancy comes up with?
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>>Of course, the telecommute position with the folks in Tempe, AZ would also
>>be pretty sweet...

In reply to Sandy: Just put the name of the paper into Google and you
get: http://www.sbsun.com/

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Dan and Nancy Mahoney - 26 May 2005 22:09 GMT
> In reply to Sandy: Just put the name of the paper into Google and you
> get: http://www.sbsun.com/

Yep, that's it!
Victor Martinez - 26 May 2005 12:35 GMT
> called the corporate Web guy in Woodland Hills. She has the job! She's
> now the web content manager for the San Bernardino Sun newspaper. It

Great news!!!

> decision in the next few days. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed
> about this one!

We'll keep purring.

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Adrian - 26 May 2005 12:38 GMT
> Since my interview was in the evening, Nancy rode to Orange County
> with me so we could go out to dinner after my interview. On the way
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Of course, the telecommute position with the folks in Tempe, AZ would
> also be pretty sweet...

Great news for Nancy! Continuing purrs you get the job you want.
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Susan M - 26 May 2005 14:28 GMT
Congratulations to Nancy!  That's fantastic!

Also congrats that you got called back twice out of the 50 resumes.
Everything still crossed that this works out for you.  Lots of purrs - is
this the cat-related job?

Susan M
Otis and Chester

> Since my interview was in the evening, Nancy rode to Orange County with me
> so we could go out to dinner after my interview. On the way down she
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Of course, the telecommute position with the folks in Tempe, AZ would also
> be pretty sweet...
Dan and Nancy Mahoney - 26 May 2005 22:12 GMT
> Congratulations to Nancy!  That's fantastic!
>
> Also congrats that you got called back twice out of the 50 resumes.
> Everything still crossed that this works out for you.  Lots of purrs - is
> this the cat-related job?

No, the cat-related job didn't call me back for a 2nd interview. This
job is with an outfit down in Orange County (it'll be a bear of a
commute), but it's foing the write kind of work - system admin of Linux
boxes with some PHP development, and just a little bot of work with
Windows servers and maybe occasionally writing of repairing an ASP
application.
Karen AKA Kajikit - 26 May 2005 18:44 GMT
>Since my interview was in the evening, Nancy rode to Orange County with
>me so we could go out to dinner after my interview. On the way down she
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>Of course, the telecommute position with the folks in Tempe, AZ would
>also be pretty sweet...

Yay! Congratulations Nancy... let's hope that you get one of these
jobs so you can get out fo the truck :)

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Elise - 27 May 2005 01:58 GMT
> Since my interview was in the evening, Nancy rode to Orange County with
> me so we could go out to dinner after my interview. On the way down she
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Of course, the telecommute position with the folks in Tempe, AZ would
> also be pretty sweet...

Big congratulations to Nancy!  She must be very excited (and relieved to
finally *know*)!
We'll keep purring for you to get your great job :)

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Sam Nash - 27 May 2005 04:00 GMT
> Since my interview was in the evening, Nancy rode to Orange County with me
> so we could go out to dinner after my interview. On the way down she
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Of course, the telecommute position with the folks in Tempe, AZ would also
> be pretty sweet...

Great news about Nancy, Dan.  Purrs continuing for your dream job to come
true.
Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe
polonca12000 - 27 May 2005 11:37 GMT
Lots of purrs and best wishes,
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> Since my interview was in the evening, Nancy rode to Orange County with
> me so we could go out to dinner after my interview. On the way down she
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Of course, the telecommute position with the folks in Tempe, AZ would
> also be pretty sweet...
polonca12000 - 25 May 2005 19:14 GMT
Lots of purrs and best wishes for you to get the job, Dan,
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> > Wilson and myself   Jean..P.
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>
> Dan
Judith Latham - 18 May 2005 21:08 GMT
> > How did the interview yesterday go?  Did you come away with positive
> > feelings or no?
> >
> > Jill (purrs still heading that way)

> That's difficult to answer. It was very mixed. We did a lot of talking
> about past experience and generalities, and that went great. Then they
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> of brain-fade when I'm situations like that. Stuff that I know and use
> every day just completely evaporates.

> But I managed to work my way through. All of the major stuff they asked
> me to do I was eventually able to do.

> I'm hoping that the ovreall impression I made was favorable. I think
> maybe so, since they have begun to call my references.

> Dan

Sounds good.

Hope it works out.

Judith

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Lesley - 19 May 2005 13:22 GMT
" hoping that the ovreall impression I made was favorable. I think
maybe so, since they have begun to call my references"

That's always a good sign. Purrs being kept up for you and Nancy- let
us know when you hear!

Lesley

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polonca12000 - 19 May 2005 21:24 GMT
That sounds great! I do hope you get the job.
Best wishes and purrs,
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> > How did the interview yesterday go?  Did you come away with positive
> > feelings or no?
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>
> Dan
 
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