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Purrs that I'm Depressed
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jmcquown - 09 May 2005 10:09 GMT I know, that sounds a little crazy. Okay, purrs that I'm crazy! I have an appointment at 11:00 AM with a psychiatrist who will determine whether or not I suffer from depression for my SSDI claim. How they can tell this in one visit, I've no idea. But maybe they can. At least I got to take a bath and wash my hair :)
Jill
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Noon Cat Nick - 09 May 2005 10:39 GMT > I know, that sounds a little crazy. Okay, purrs that I'm crazy! I have an > appointment at 11:00 AM with a psychiatrist who will determine whether or > not I suffer from depression for my SSDI claim. How they can tell this in > one visit, I've no idea. But maybe they can. At least I got to take a bath > and wash my hair :) See http://www.allaboutdepression.com/dia_01.html for diagnostic information. Your SSDI claim most likely will deal not only with symptoms but also with their severity, and how incapacitating they have become.
N.B.: Don't expect to receive SSDI benefits the first time you file. It's their job to turn you down, unless you're so out of it you can't even remember simple things like the month and year or who's currently in charge at the Oval Office, or if you're greatly impaired physically (which depression can indeed impose upon its victims). Ask your psychiatrist whom you might talk to for help in filing your claim successfully.
jmcquown - 09 May 2005 10:50 GMT >> I know, that sounds a little crazy. Okay, purrs that I'm crazy! I >> have an appointment at 11:00 AM with a psychiatrist who will [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > psychiatrist whom you might talk to for help in filing your claim > successfully. You mean to tell me LBJ isn't still in office?! Give me a break. Clinical depression doesn't have much to to with loss of cognitive reasoning. Even *I* know that!
Jill
William Hamblen - 09 May 2005 12:25 GMT >You mean to tell me LBJ isn't still in office?! Give me a break. Clinical >depression doesn't have much to to with loss of cognitive reasoning. Even >*I* know that! When you're sick enough it takes too much effort even to answer a simple question. Even a layperson can see the sufferer is in serious trouble.
I've had a couple of friends and their spouses go through the process for SSDI for psychiatric illnesses. I think the best outcome is for you to get better. Prayers.
Cheryl Perkins - 09 May 2005 12:50 GMT > You mean to tell me LBJ isn't still in office?! Give me a break. Clinical > depression doesn't have much to to with loss of cognitive reasoning. Even > *I* know that! Ummmm - it does, you know, although not so much about knowing stuff like who the president is.
In my inexpert opinion, people suffering from depression tend to screw up the drawing conclusions part of cognitive reasoning, such as when they notice 'no one phoned me this morning' and conclude 'No one cares if I live or die because I'm such a rotten person'.
And if they have really, really severe depression, their thinking can get even worse, although if you were that sick, you'd probably be hospitalized through the local ER, and not well enough to compose a coherant post.
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Smokie Darling (Annie) - 09 May 2005 15:45 GMT > > You mean to tell me LBJ isn't still in office?! Give me a break. Clinical > > depression doesn't have much to to with loss of cognitive reasoning. Even [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > -- > Cheryl Hi Cheryl,
Not sure where Jill lives, but I live in Colorado (Western), and suffer severe clinical depression (apparently still have it, but seems not to need treatment anymore, after I learned to cope). I was only hospitalized one time (in adulthood), and it was actually a doctor's fault, not mine (made me completely stop my anti-depressants so we could change to a new one, and I truly bottomed out).
You are completely correct about one of the thought processes. It can go from the "no one cares if I live or die." to figuring out how it would be soooo much better for everyone else (and I even remember writing it all down) if I were dead (I seem to remember a piddly life insurance policy ($10K when I was making $28K a year) being a good reason for one on my list).
You'd be amazed how easy it is to "hide" even severe depression from someone in email (or in person). I hid it from my psychs (yep, plural) as well, until I realized that I couldn't get help if I didn't acknowledge the problem. I was chemically treated from 16 until 35, when *I* decided to wean off (much to the consternation of all physicians involved, bad idea, but it ended up being good for me). I have depressive episodes, but I know what works for me to cope, and I know the "warning signs" when I need to seek another opinion.
Jill, I will send purrs for you. It is very common for people to be denied on their first application, so do not be surprised if it happens. Its kind of sad, but many people are told to expect a denial, but I won't do that to a fellow depressive.
I hope all works out for you.
Smokie Darling (Annie)
Noon Cat Nick - 09 May 2005 17:33 GMT > >> I know, that sounds a little crazy. Okay, purrs that I'm crazy! I > >> have an appointment at 11:00 AM with a psychiatrist who will [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > depression doesn't have much to to with loss of cognitive reasoning. Even > *I* know that! You're welcome, sunshine.
Victor Martinez - 09 May 2005 13:30 GMT > I know, that sounds a little crazy. Okay, purrs that I'm crazy! I have an Crazy purrs on the way then! :)
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Kreisleriana - 09 May 2005 15:03 GMT >I know, that sounds a little crazy. Okay, purrs that I'm crazy! I have an >appointment at 11:00 AM with a psychiatrist who will determine whether or [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Jill How about blanket purrs for it to go your way?
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Duke of URL - 09 May 2005 15:27 GMT > I know, that sounds a little crazy. Okay, purrs that I'm crazy! I > have an appointment at 11:00 AM with a psychiatrist who will [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Jill The good news is that, these days, it's easy to treat.
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glsummer@neptunelink.com - 09 May 2005 18:09 GMT >I know, that sounds a little crazy. Okay, purrs that I'm crazy! I have an >appointment at 11:00 AM with a psychiatrist who will determine whether or [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Jill Now, you shoulda skipped the bath and the hair. *Then* they'd *really* think you're depressed! ;-)
Purrs that you get the SSDI claim approved.
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Karen AKA Kajikit - 09 May 2005 20:49 GMT >>I know, that sounds a little crazy. Okay, purrs that I'm crazy! I have an >>appointment at 11:00 AM with a psychiatrist who will determine whether or [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >Now, you shoulda skipped the bath and the hair. *Then* they'd >*really* think you're depressed! ;-) That's funny - that was what I thought too! lol Good luck Jill!
Nowadays I HATE to go to bed dirty and I can't stand it if I haven't brushed my teeth because my mouth tastes like the bottom of a birdcage in the morning... but I remember when I would really and truly just 'forget' to do it, or I just plain didn't care enough to move. The unpleasant sensations didn't penetrate my consciousness enough for me to be prodded into taking the needed action.
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Jo Firey - 09 May 2005 18:18 GMT At least I got to take a bath
> and wash my hair :) Not necessarily. They want depressed, let them have depressed.
Don't iron anything to wear either.
And don't bring up planning and coking an occasional elaborate meal. Jo
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 09 May 2005 18:23 GMT > I know, that sounds a little crazy. Okay, purrs that I'm crazy! I have an > appointment at 11:00 AM with a psychiatrist who will determine whether or > not I suffer from depression for my SSDI claim. How they can tell this in > one visit, I've no idea. But maybe they can. At least I got to take a bath > and wash my hair :) Ummm.... if you want to convince him you have clinical depression, maybe you should skip the bath and shampoo? One symptom of the condition is that normal activities all seem to be "too much trouble", and one is "too tired" most of the time.
Hopitus - 09 May 2005 19:03 GMT Just a few words of encouragement from one who has never dealt w/these people: remember that this dude is *not* the last word, ever, on the whole ball of wax.... *but* I know you don't wanna hear this, but two friends of mine who have/are dealing with SSI have told me it is absolutely necessary to shave time off your ordeal w/them to get yourself an excellent attorney well versed in this specialty. It is *not* all up to docs' certifying stuff.
>> I know, that sounds a little crazy. Okay, purrs that I'm crazy! I have >> an [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > that normal activities all seem to be "too much trouble", and one is "too > tired" most of the time. jmcquown - 09 May 2005 19:18 GMT >> I know, that sounds a little crazy. Okay, purrs that I'm crazy! I >> have an appointment at 11:00 AM with a psychiatrist who will [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > to be "too much trouble", and one is "too tired" most of the > time. I hadn't bathed in three days (Too much info, I know). I'm normally too "I don't give a s***" these days but it gets to a point where you just have to take a shower because you disgust yourself.
Also wound up with a case of IBS this morning and my medication for that makes me incredibly sleepy and they say you should not drive. So I rescheduled my appointment. Oh, and I found out my caseworker was fired. Funny thing, that. She never did answer her phone or return phone calls.
Jill
hobbs - 10 May 2005 01:03 GMT Yeah!!!!!! glad to hear you got your bath, I hope the app; turns out the way you want it to, Purring to that end. Jean.P.
> I know, that sounds a little crazy. Okay, purrs that I'm crazy! I have an > appointment at 11:00 AM with a psychiatrist who will determine whether or [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > I used to have a handle on life...but it broke off. Adrian - 10 May 2005 15:06 GMT > I know, that sounds a little crazy. Okay, purrs that I'm crazy! I > have an appointment at 11:00 AM with a psychiatrist who will [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Jill Purrs taht things work out and you get the benefits you need.
Christina Websell - 11 May 2005 01:35 GMT >I know, that sounds a little crazy. Okay, purrs that I'm crazy! I have an > appointment at 11:00 AM with a psychiatrist who will determine whether or [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Jill I am not going to purr that you have depression as I would not wish clinical depression on anyone. You don't have it in the true sense if you can wash your hair and bath and cook recipes. Says someone who nearly starved and went to bed in her clothes for ages, so I know what I'm talking about. What I would rather wish for you is that you get more confident to apply for jobs and get one, that would make me happy. You can do it, Jill, truly you can.
Tweed
jmcquown - 11 May 2005 07:45 GMT >> I know, that sounds a little crazy. Okay, purrs that I'm crazy! I >> have an appointment at 11:00 AM with a psychiatrist who will [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Tweed {{{{{{{{{{Christina}}}}}}}}} Thank you.
Actually, I've been clinically depressed for years and you really don't want to know how often (or should I say seldom?) I take a bath these days. Of course I would rather not be depressed.
I do not enjoy cooking (or anything else, come to think of it) as much as I used to. Once upon a time I looked forward to coming home from work and cooking. I cooked healthy meals, too. These days I have to drag myself into the kitchen (and you definitely don't want to see what it looks like). Every once in a while I get up the gumption to do the whole cooking routine, but for the most part these days I eat frozen stuff or things that can be cooked in one pot with minimal prep (good thing I love soup, isn't it?).
I can trace my depression back to 1999 when I lost my dog of almost 18 years. I wasn't allowed to have pets (except for birds) when I was a kid. But truly, it was probably earlier than that and I simply didn't realize it. Then, of course, 9/11/2001 happened and I lost 30 co-workers I knew personally (and thanks to our wonderful tech team got to see it happen, live).
I also have a problem with social anxiety. I just plain don't like going out anymore. It's actually amazing I hop on airplanes and do the art shows with John. But here's the thing about that (and yes, I talked with my doctor about it)... I don't ever have to see those people again. Chances are one in a million we'll ever meet up face to face at any point in the future so somehow that doesn't bother me.
Oh, and I cancelled my appointment. I told my caseworker I wasn't feeling well and asked if she could reschedule the examination. Truth be told, I couldn't bring myself to drive. (sigh)
Jill
Noon Cat Nick - 11 May 2005 12:53 GMT > Actually, I've been clinically depressed for years and you really don't want > to know how often (or should I say seldom?) I take a bath these days. Of [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > well and asked if she could reschedule the examination. Truth be told, I > couldn't bring myself to drive. (sigh) I went through the same stuff, just at a different time. I was diagnosed in July 1988, and spent a long time struggling with meds, therapy, hospitalizations, etc. Social phobia is one of the features of my depression, which runs atypical. Years ago I finally found a med which controls (for me, anyway) all the aspects of my depression. In that regard, I consider myself quite fortunate, since I know too many people who've struggled with psychotropic meds for decades without significant benefit.
FWIW, you might want to check out alt.support.depression, if you haven't already.
Christina Websell - 12 May 2005 23:45 GMT >>> I know, that sounds a little crazy. Okay, purrs that I'm crazy! I >>> have an appointment at 11:00 AM with a psychiatrist who will [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > Jill If it's OK with you, I'll mail you privately about this. At least for the next day or two anyway.
Tweed
Enfilade - 13 May 2005 02:45 GMT I hope it all turns out well for you.
Me, my depression was a rather opposite reaction...I had too much energy. From waking to sleeping I was pacing around, twitching, constantly fighting urges to wreck things...and if I gave in, only for a minute, I found myself covered in bruises and/or surrounded by damage. When sleeping, I had nightmares that made me wake up ready to fight.
The pills I got put on tamed me down--by making me sleep 16 hours a day.
After losing my job because I couldn't get things done as fast as I was supposed to, I find myself now off the pills, and just hoping I can keep a lid on myself. So far so good...
But I know exactly how it feels not to have energy to do stuff, or TIME to do stuff becasue you're sleeping so much...that's what I was like on teh medication.
Bright Blessings.
--Fil
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