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Jeanne Hedge - 04 May 2005 05:26 GMT
I haven't paid much attention to this year's Kentucky Derby horses, so
don't know much about them. I drew a horse named High Fly in a local
Derby pool. All I know about him is that Zito is the trainer and Jerry
Bailey will be up. Horse racing fans, what are your opinions? Do I
have a chance?

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Karen - 04 May 2005 13:10 GMT
> I haven't paid much attention to this year's Kentucky Derby horses, so
> don't know much about them. I drew a horse named High Fly in a local
> Derby pool. All I know about him is that Zito is the trainer and Jerry
> Bailey will be up. Horse racing fans, what are your opinions? Do I
> have a chance?

High Fly is a very nice horse. He will have a good price because this year
is a deep field. My Derby choices in order are Afleet Alex/Bellamy
Road/Bandini/Wilko/High Fly/High Limit/Sun King/ and then the rest. (Wilko
and High Fly should *probably* be reversed on speed numbers, but I just have
a bit of a thing for little Wilko) Bellamy Road *appears* after his last
race to be a total monster of a horse, but Afleet Alex has way more
experience and has always been 1st or 2nd throughought his 2 and 3 year old
years (so far) except for one race in which he finished last and was found
to have a lung infection. I have a personal interest in that horse in that
he is owned by new owners, he's got a sweet persoanlity, a percentage of his
wins always go to Alex's Lemonade Stand, the childrens cancer charity begun
by little Alex Scott and well, he's pretty amazing. Bellamy has won by huge
lengths in his last two races, but has never been in a big field like the
Kentucky Derby, whereas Alex has. Alex, High Fly and Wilko are gutsy and
tough. They all have a wonderful ability to just hang in there. They tough
it out and they do NOT throw in the towel. The nice thing about getting High
Fly for your horse is that in the Kentucky Derby, luck is a much bigger
factor than a lot of races so, that, plus High Fly's decent amount of talent
give him a good chance of hitting the board. Having Jerry Bailey doesn't
hurt either. He is definitely on of the top six or seven out of the 20 horse
field, but Bellamy, Bandini and Alex will take all the money. Leaving
everyone else at big odds.

I'm just SOOOO excited. I've been churning since Sunday. Post position draws
are this afternoon. Of course, drawing a far outside post for anyone is
going to somewhat change the chances. I'd say it's best to have anything
between 5 and 9. It will be on ESPN today at 4-5pm Central time on ESPN.
It's going to be a GOOD Kentucky Derby. Friday is the girls turn with the
Kentucky Oaks, so if you are home, be sure to watch the races! It's the one
time of year when we get racing on TV!!
Karen - 04 May 2005 13:32 GMT
Oh! BTW, Good Luck!! High Fly is a very nice horse. Stick with him in future
races for sure. He's a tough little bugger.
Jeanne Hedge - 04 May 2005 23:52 GMT
>Oh! BTW, Good Luck!! High Fly is a very nice horse. Stick with him in future
>races for sure. He's a tough little bugger.

I'd figured he wasn't a bad horse, with Bailey signing to ride him,
but didn't realize he was one of the few who have a chance to win this
thing. I'm certainly glad he's not a favorite - everyone knows
favorites have a tough time winning this race.

They've announced the initial line and post positions. High Fly is
breaking from position 6 (a good place to be), and is a 12-1 co-5th
choice (out of 20). I do have my doubts about the initial line -
according to the report I heard, the other 12-1 horse hasn't won a
stakes race, while the Wood winner is a 20-1 shot!

Steinbrenner's horse is the favorite. I fear George may be in for
another let down. <weg>

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Karen - 05 May 2005 04:44 GMT
>> Oh! BTW, Good Luck!! High Fly is a very nice horse. Stick with him in future
>> races for sure. He's a tough little bugger.
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> Steinbrenner's horse is the favorite. I fear George may be in for
> another let down. <weg>

I think so. Unless he is the second coming of Secretariat and I doubt that.
I'm so excited. It's getting close!! Yes, I would say High Fly certainly has
a chance. Just depends on how it all pans out. I'm rooting for Afleet Alex
like mad though. I cried and broke my glasses when he won the Arkansas
Derby. I get a little excited about my horses.
mlbriggs - 08 May 2005 06:00 GMT
>>> Oh! BTW, Good Luck!! High Fly is a very nice horse. Stick with him in
>>> future races for sure. He's a tough little bugger.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> for Afleet Alex like mad though. I cried and broke my glasses when he won
> the Arkansas Derby. I get a little excited about my horses.

What a race!  50 / 1 .   Beautiful horses today.   MLB
Jeanne Hedge - 08 May 2005 06:29 GMT
>What a race!  50 / 1 .   Beautiful horses today.   MLB

Wow, was it ever! They called it a stampede at down the stretch the
first time, and I was sure the race caller for TV would be right when
he cried out (yards from the finish) that there was going to be a
3-way photo finish.

I live near Louisville, and was listening to the wrap up on local
radio in the car while running some errands after the race. The radio
guy was interviewing the Churchill Downs track announcer, who calls
the race at the track (different guy from the fellow who called the
race for the TV broadcast). To paraphrase:

Interviewer: I've sat next to you many times while you've called races
and even the Derby, and have never seen the look you had on your face
from the top of the stretch - a look that said "I can't believe what
I'm seeing!"

Race Caller: Well I couldn't!

Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha

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Yoj - 08 May 2005 07:28 GMT
> >>> Oh! BTW, Good Luck!! High Fly is a very nice horse. Stick with him in
> >>> future races for sure. He's a tough little bugger.
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>
> What a race!  50 / 1 .   Beautiful horses today.   MLB

Yes, it was really exciting!  I imagine the people who bet on Giacomo (I
think that's his name) are over the moon, especially if they made a large
bet.  Naturally, the owners, trainer and jockey are thrilled too.

Joy
Karen - 08 May 2005 23:05 GMT
>>>>> Oh! BTW, Good Luck!! High Fly is a very nice horse. Stick with him in
>>>>> future races for sure. He's a tough little bugger.
[quoted text clipped - 28 lines]
>
> Joy

Well, it was certainly exciting and quite an upset! But I was happy with
Alex and with Jeremy's ride. He was the only favorite who actually showed up
at the finish. Watching the overhead replay, I'm convinced that with less
traffic than a 20 horse calvary charge gives you, he would have had enough
to get up first. I talked to the people I know who are with his team and he
came out good. They are shipping him to Pimlico on Wednesday. The best news
is that Alex's Lemonade Stand, whom they support, raised a LOT of money.
People were dropping 100s in their jar. NBC did such a great piece on it
that the Lemonade stand will not be forgotten even though Alex Scott (the
little girl who started the charity) has passed away.

Giacomo had a great ride and good for the California contingent who was
definitely overlooked. I think we will see a larger than usual field for the
Preakness which is good for the race but it won't be a 20 horse melee like
the Derby! It's just amazing any of them come out whole. Very thrilling
visually though. I had a GREAT time. One of these days I will actually get
there.
Jo Firey - 09 May 2005 00:10 GMT
> Well, it was certainly exciting and quite an upset! But I was happy with
> Alex and with Jeremy's ride. He was the only favorite who actually showed
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> he
> came out good. They are shipping him to Pimlico on Wednesday.

> Giacomo had a great ride and good for the California contingent who was
> definitely overlooked. I think we will see a larger than usual field for
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> visually though. I had a GREAT time. One of these days I will actually get
> there.

I could do without the huge field they are having with the Derby anymore.
Makes it more like a lottery than a horse race.  It was interesting to watch
the footage in the replays.  The press really needs to stop believing their
own b*lls%$t.  They got very little footage of the actual winner.  From what
I did see, the jockey did a really excellent job.  And the horse looked to
have the stamina for the Belmont if he can take the Preakness.  That's a big
if.  There is always a short distance rocket around to take the Preakness
that can't last the Belmont.

Jo
Karen - 09 May 2005 01:40 GMT
>> Well, it was certainly exciting and quite an upset! But I was happy with
>> Alex and with Jeremy's ride. He was the only favorite who actually showed
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Jo

It'll be interesting. I tell you what, I'm always happy when the 'cappers
don't pick the horse *I* want to win :)
Christine Burel - 09 May 2005 18:56 GMT
> >>>>> Oh! BTW, Good Luck!! High Fly is a very nice horse. Stick with him in
> >>>>> future races for sure. He's a tough little bugger.
[quoted text clipped - 46 lines]
> visually though. I had a GREAT time. One of these days I will actually get
> there.

I enjoyed the race, too!  I used to be up on all the horse for the Triple
Crown races every year and then life just got too busy, but I sure love
watching them run!
Hope A.A. wins at the Preakness and/or Belmont!
Christine
Karen - 09 May 2005 19:28 GMT
>>>>>> On Wed, 04 May 2005 07:32:28 -0500, Karen <kchuplis@alltel.net>
> wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 63 lines]
> Hope A.A. wins at the Preakness and/or Belmont!
> Christine

The media people for Alex have asked me to come to the Preakness!!! They are
good personal friends with Tim Ritchey (the trainer of Afleet Alex) and I
should get to meet some of the horses!! I'm pretty excited. Hopefully, all
arrangements will hold up. I will get to see my first LIVE race!! AND meet
the horses and people. I'm still a bit overwhelmed.
Jo Firey - 09 May 2005 20:54 GMT
> The media people for Alex have asked me to come to the Preakness!!! They
> are
> good personal friends with Tim Ritchey (the trainer of Afleet Alex) and I
> should get to meet some of the horses!! I'm pretty excited. Hopefully, all
> arrangements will hold up. I will get to see my first LIVE race!! AND meet
> the horses and people. I'm still a bit overwhelmed.

That is just so incredibly cool.  And it won't be as mobbed as the derby so
it should be a lot of fun.

Jo
Christine Burel - 09 May 2005 21:12 GMT
Awesome, Karen!  If anyone deserves to go, it's you!  Sending purrs that
it'll all work out for you!
Christine

> >>>>>> On Wed, 04 May 2005 07:32:28 -0500, Karen <kchuplis@alltel.net>
> > wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 69 lines]
> arrangements will hold up. I will get to see my first LIVE race!! AND meet
> the horses and people. I'm still a bit overwhelmed.
Jeanne Hedge - 09 May 2005 22:17 GMT
>The media people for Alex have asked me to come to the Preakness!!! They are
>good personal friends with Tim Ritchey (the trainer of Afleet Alex) and I
>should get to meet some of the horses!! I'm pretty excited. Hopefully, all
>arrangements will hold up. I will get to see my first LIVE race!! AND meet
>the horses and people. I'm still a bit overwhelmed.

Congratulations! *_*

And Pimlico is such a historic track too :)

Have a wonderful time!

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Yoj - 10 May 2005 07:48 GMT
> >>>>>> On Wed, 04 May 2005 07:32:28 -0500, Karen <kchuplis@alltel.net>
> > wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 69 lines]
> arrangements will hold up. I will get to see my first LIVE race!! AND meet
> the horses and people. I'm still a bit overwhelmed.

What a wonderful opportunity!  Congratulations!  You'll have to tell us all
about it.

Joy
Jeanne Hedge - 21 May 2005 19:48 GMT
>The media people for Alex have asked me to come to the Preakness!!! They are
>good personal friends with Tim Ritchey (the trainer of Afleet Alex) and I
>should get to meet some of the horses!! I'm pretty excited. Hopefully, all
>arrangements will hold up. I will get to see my first LIVE race!! AND meet
>the horses and people. I'm still a bit overwhelmed.

So Karen, did you get to go?  How was it?????

Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha
(writing several hours before the race takes place)
Jeanne Hedge - 21 May 2005 23:29 GMT
>>The media people for Alex have asked me to come to the Preakness!!! They are
>>good personal friends with Tim Ritchey (the trainer of Afleet Alex) and I
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>So Karen, did you get to go?  How was it?????

ps -

Did you guys about have heart failure coming out of the turn at the
head of the stretch?

Oh, and what did you wear - you might have been on national TV, as
they focused on the "Afleet Alex gang" during a TV replay of that
moment (*such* language! ;)

And how was the celebratory champagne? <g>

for those who missed it:
1. Afleety Alex
2. Scrappy T
3. Giacomo

Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha
(written AFTER the race)
Christine Burel - 21 May 2005 23:33 GMT
> >>The media people for Alex have asked me to come to the Preakness!!! They are
> >>good personal friends with Tim Ritchey (the trainer of Afleet Alex) and I
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
> Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha
> (written AFTER the race)

Oops, missed this and posted another thread, too.  Yay, Afleet Alex for
staying safe and winning!-- I remember the Alysheba race in 1987, also.
Looked for Karen but didn't see her.
Christine
Jeanne Hedge - 21 May 2005 23:44 GMT
>Oops, missed this and posted another thread, too.  Yay, Afleet Alex for
>staying safe and winning!-- I remember the Alysheba race in 1987, also.
>Looked for Karen but didn't see her.
>Christine

Karen wasn't with them in Louisville, and the came in 3rd. She was in
Baltimore with them and they won.

Maybe the "Alex Gang" will ask their lucky charm to join them in New
York for the Belmont?  >^.^<

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CATherine - 22 May 2005 03:48 GMT
>>The media people for Alex have asked me to come to the Preakness!!! They are
>>good personal friends with Tim Ritchey (the trainer of Afleet Alex) and I
>>should get to meet some of the horses!! I'm pretty excited. Hopefully, all
>>arrangements will hold up. I will get to see my first LIVE race!! AND meet
>>the horses and people. I'm still a bit overwhelmed.

How exciting! I hope you take your camera. And have a great time. My
DH and I used to live as caretakers on a ranch with thoroughbreds,
mostly taking care of the brood mares and foals. I love those horses.

--
CATherine
Karen - 23 May 2005 20:39 GMT
>> The media people for Alex have asked me to come to the Preakness!!! They are
>> good personal friends with Tim Ritchey (the trainer of Afleet Alex) and I
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Jeanne Hedge, as directed by Natasha
> (writing several hours before the race takes place)

I was not fancy. I knew I would be at the barn and wore nice deep green
jeans and a Cold Water Creek geranium colored jacket and pale yellow T.
Actually, I was being SWAMPED at the lemonade stand selling Alex posters.
That poster you saw in the NBC piece was mine. I also gave them the motto
Courage, Strength, Heart. That is why they asked me to come. And here is my
report:

Not only was I there but I was there with the winning team! I got to hang
out with Afleet Alex at the barn. I met the trainer and had breakfast and
dinner with him on Sunday. I was at the party the night before after the
race. Met the horse, met the owners. I have become friends over the last
year with the people who run media interference for Afleet Alex's trainer
and owners. They asked me down because the used an image I made from a photo
of Afleet Alex winning the Arkansas Derby and Alex Scott and gave them their
motto: Courage, Strength, Heart. If you saw any of the coverage, that was my
poster! So, I am back now and elated. Tired. A lot sad to leave. If  you saw
the race, Afleet Alex was cut off and clipped heels with another horse at
the top of the stretch, fell to his knees, kept the jockey on, got up and
STILL won!! The trainer calls it the Immaculate Recovery. There was a little
angel named Alex Scott riding with Afleet Alex on Preakness day. She saved
MANY lives. Had he gone down so would half the field and there would have
been mortal injuries for both horses and jockeys. It was the most amazing
experience of my life and I know that people who do good things have good
done back now. I have no doubt that miracles happen. :)  Keep the faith
always! (Alex is SUCH a nice horse. Calm, and a real camera hog!)

http://www.afleetalex.com
Jo Firey - 23 May 2005 20:55 GMT
>>> The media people for Alex have asked me to come to the Preakness!!! They
>>> are
[quoted text clipped - 44 lines]
>
> http://www.afleetalex.com

Sounds fantastic.

So.  Is he running the Belmont?  Think he can handle the distance?

That fall recovery will be in sports coverage clips forever.  I sure hope he
wasn't injured.

Jo
Karen - 24 May 2005 01:14 GMT
>>>> The media people for Alex have asked me to come to the Preakness!!! They
>>>> are
[quoted text clipped - 53 lines]
>
> Jo

So far, so good. Only a scrape! Yes, he can get the distance. He has trained
like a marathon runner. None of the others have. Woohoo!
Jo Firey - 24 May 2005 01:33 GMT
After I read your post, I went back to my recording of the race.  The poster
you did is great.  Are they taking you along for the Belmont?  Good luck and
all that?

Jo
Kreisleriana - 23 May 2005 21:12 GMT
>>> The media people for Alex have asked me to come to the Preakness!!! They are
>>> good personal friends with Tim Ritchey (the trainer of Afleet Alex) and I
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>done back now. I have no doubt that miracles happen. :)  Keep the faith
>always! (Alex is SUCH a nice horse. Calm, and a real camera hog!)

I've read that Alex has an unusual temperament for a three-year-old
race horse, meaning he is not criminally insane. ;)  Did you get his
autograph? ;)

I have seen some dreadful things at the track--  they are such
delicate, complex creatures.   Glad he is OK.

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Karen - 24 May 2005 03:45 GMT
>>>> The media people for Alex have asked me to come to the Preakness!!! They
>>>> are
[quoted text clipped - 37 lines]
> race horse, meaning he is not criminally insane. ;)  Did you get his
> autograph? ;)

I got piccies:

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/kchuplis/slideshow?.dir=/4398&.src=ph

He is a very calm and laid back horse for a thoroughbred. Preakness day he
just poked his head out about 10 a.m. and took in the scenery. Played with
his bouncy ball a little. Yesterday morning we were fawning on him. My
friend and one of the owners were really kissing up to him and playing with
his mouth (they like their tongues tugged and stuff.) I think that is also
what really saved him. He is one SMART horse. Being very calm keeps him very
focused when running. He doesn't play around and get all spooky. He kept his
wits about him Saturday for sure. Poor baby was SOOOOOOO tired though. I was
watching them put a poultice on his leg that night and he just stood there
for the groom and leaned his forehead against the stall wall. Pooped out
with good reason. Tim said tonight that he still seems good. He hasn't seen
any soreness issues yet, but they will walk him 4 times a day and keep
checking to make sure no suspicious soreness shows up. I will say, Sunday
morning he absolutely reveled in the attention of the media and did not want
to go back in the barn (see pictures above) and later he was bouncing his
ball around so he didn't feel too bad. But we all know how you can get sore
a couple of days later.

> I have seen some dreadful things at the track--  they are such
> delicate, complex creatures.   Glad he is OK.

Yes, it can be very bad, but it is also just the most amazing testimony to a
marvelous creature. That really is what thoroughbreds do. Run. Alex
absolutely LOVES it. And did you see him after the race? His ears were
pricked forward and his neck arched? He sure knew what he did all right.

> Theresa
> Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
> My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Kreisleriana - 24 May 2005 04:14 GMT
>>>>> The media people for Alex have asked me to come to the Preakness!!! They
>>>>> are
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>
>http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/kchuplis/slideshow?.dir=/4398&.src=ph

<scream> <THUD>
Just amazing.

>He is a very calm and laid back horse for a thoroughbred. Preakness day he
>just poked his head out about 10 a.m. and took in the scenery. Played with
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
>> Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
>> My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

Theresa
Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Karen - 24 May 2005 05:07 GMT
>> I got piccies:
>>
>> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/kchuplis/slideshow?.dir=/4398&.src=ph
>
> <scream> <THUD>
> Just amazing.

He's a charmer that one :)
Yoj - 24 May 2005 08:09 GMT
> I was not fancy. I knew I would be at the barn and wore nice deep green
> jeans and a Cold Water Creek geranium colored jacket and pale yellow T.
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> http://www.afleetalex.com

Congratulations, both on having your photo and motto chosen, and on being
there to witness the great event!  I thought of you when I heard about
Afleet Alex being on his knees and still winning the race.  He and the
jockey must really be something!  I'm so glad you had such a great time!

Joy
Shiral - 21 May 2005 20:59 GMT
Know I'm terribly jealous. =o) And me clear over on the wrong coast for
this event. That's verra cool, I hope the arrangements don't fall
through. Have fun!

Melissa
Shiral - 09 May 2005 20:48 GMT
I totally missed the race, as I had to work, but woo-hoo! Giacomo ran
away with the honors! =o) Just goes to show, hype doesn't pan out. I
kind of hope the odds remain long on him to win the Preakness and
Belmont.  Smarty Jones was billed as a possible triple crowner, but it
didn't quite work, in his case.

Run, Giacomo, Run! Your stud fees have probably quadrupled in a week.
=o)

Melissa
Jeanne Hedge - 11 May 2005 04:30 GMT
USA Today has a link to a fantasy version of the Kentucky Derby, the
"Dream Derby" on their website. There's even a call of the race. It's
kind of like an audio-only version of those fantasy Super Bowl games
ESPN shows.

The field of 10 was determined by someone's idea of the top 3 year
olds of all time based on their records, regardless of if they even
ran in the Kentucky Derby (guess that's why Seabiscuit isn't in the
field - he didn't really break out until he was older). Here's the
field and their post positions:

1. Genuine Risk
2. Spectacular Bid
3. War Admiral
4. Seattle Slew
5. Citation
6. Man O'War
7. Whirlaway
8. Alydar
9. Affirmed
10. Secretariat

I'm not sure if this link will work to get there (and it requires
Flash), but if it doesn't try searching the USA Today site and you
should be able to find it:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/graphics/dream_derby_05/flash.htm

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Karen - 11 May 2005 05:12 GMT
> USA Today has a link to a fantasy version of the Kentucky Derby, the
> "Dream Derby" on their website. There's even a call of the race. It's
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I've heard that. It's pretty fun. There is a GREAT book "Dream Race the
Search for the Greatest Racehorse of all Time"
http://www.robertclark.us/page/page/1869716.htm

The paintings are really neat. It's on my list.
Jo Firey - 11 May 2005 22:05 GMT
Subject: FW: Churchill Downs

A group of second, third, and fourth graders accompanied by two female
teachers went on afield trip to Churchill Downs, the local racetrack,    to
see  and learn about thoroughbred horses.
   > >>
When it was time to take the children to the bathroom, it was decided  that
the girls would go with one teacher and the boys would go with the   other.
   > >>
The teacher assigned to the boys was waiting outside the men's room  when
one  of the boys came out and told her that none of them could reach the
urinal.
   > >>
Having no choice, she went inside, helped the boys with their pants and
began hoisting the boys up one by one, holding onto their "wee-wee's"     to
direct the flow away from their clothes.
   > >>
As she lifted one, she couldn't help but notice that he was unusually  well
endowed.

Trying not to show that she was staring, the teacher said, "You must be  in
the fourth grade."
   > >>
"No, ma'am," he replied. "I'm the jockey riding Silver Arrow in the
seventh."
Karen - 12 May 2005 14:53 GMT
ROFL. Too funny. Did you see all the jockeys on Letterman the other night.
That cute Jeremy Rose (who I think I get to meet) was just adorable. Mike
SMith (rider of the winning Giacomo) did the top 10 list.

> Subject: FW: Churchill Downs
>
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>  "No, ma'am," he replied. "I'm the jockey riding Silver Arrow in the
> seventh."
 
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