Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / May 2005
Yet More Purrs Requested
|
|
Thread rating:  |
jmcquown - 29 Apr 2005 16:09 GMT Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last year. One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it still isn't right; he's not getting enough blood flow down the leg. So on Monday morning, May 1, they are going to insert a balloon to open up the artery.
Dad is approaching 81 years of age and I'm concerned about all these invasive procedures (and anesthesia) at his age. Any spare purrs for a successful outcome would be appreciated.
Jill
 Signature I used to have a handle on life...but it broke off.
Catnipped - 29 Apr 2005 16:13 GMT > Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last year. > One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it still isn't [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jill Get well purrs are winging their way to his bedside now. Please let us know how it turns out.
Hugs,
CatNipped
Jo Firey - 29 Apr 2005 18:51 GMT Prayers, and purrs and Go Dad! Purrs on the way. Also peace of mind purrs for the rest of the family.
Jo
>> Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last year. >> One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it still [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > CatNipped Karen - 29 Apr 2005 16:20 GMT Scary. Surgery purrs coming.
> Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last year. > One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it still isn't [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jill Pat - 29 Apr 2005 16:40 GMT > Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last year. > One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it still isn't [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > invasive procedures (and anesthesia) at his age. Any spare purrs for a > successful outcome would be appreciated. Purrs on the way. Also, wondering if perhaps local rather than general anesthesia is an option, for a leg thing?
jmcquown - 29 Apr 2005 17:01 GMT >> Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last >> year. One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Purrs on the way. Also, wondering if perhaps local rather than general > anesthesia is an option, for a leg thing? That might well be the case. Mom didn't give me any details about that. I'll be calling her tomorrow and will be sure to ask; if she doesn't know she should call the surgeon and inquire. I'm sure it would put her mind at rest (as well as Dad's and mine).
Jill
Marina - 30 Apr 2005 04:57 GMT >>>Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last >>>year. One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > she should call the surgeon and inquire. I'm sure it would put her mind at > rest (as well as Dad's and mine). Seven out of the eight times I've had hand surgery, it was done under local anesthesia. Sending good-luck purrs for your Dad.
 Signature Marina, Frank, Nikki, and Mere marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki
Helen Miles - 29 Apr 2005 16:57 GMT > Dad is approaching 81 years of age and I'm concerned about all these > invasive procedures (and anesthesia) at his age. Any spare purrs for a > successful outcome would be appreciated. > > Jill Many purrs and prayers that things are successful.
{{HUGS}}
Helen M
Howard Berkowitz - 29 Apr 2005 17:02 GMT > Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last year. > One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it still isn't [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > invasive procedures (and anesthesia) at his age. Any spare purrs for a > successful outcome would be appreciated. While concern is justified, most balloon procedures do not use full anesthesia, just a local where the artery is entered, and a level of sedation that makes the patient comfortable. When I've had my cardiac catheterizations and balloon procedures, I requested no sedation because I wanted to watch.
With a heart angioplasty, there are some potentially painful times when blood flow to the heart is blocked. When I had this, I received small amounts of narcotic in the IV. A leg procedure shouldn't produce this sort of pain.
jmcquown - 29 Apr 2005 17:08 GMT >> Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last >> year. One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > produce this > sort of pain. Thank you, Howard. I'm pretty sure now that I think about it and after reading Pat's reply, it will probably be a local. Mom told me Dad expects to be able to go home that same day. She wasn't sure about that and told him she'll pack a small overnight bag just in case.
Jill
Howard Berkowitz - 29 Apr 2005 18:50 GMT > >> Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last > >> year. One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > to be able to go home that same day. She wasn't sure about that and told > him she'll pack a small overnight bag just in case. "Same day" may mean up to 23 hours. One of the things that delays the discharge is that the patient usually has blood anticoagulated, so there are no clots during the procedure. That usually translates to having pressure over the place where the catheter went in for about 4 hours, or possibly longer. If there were unexpected bleeding, it's easy enough to control in the hospital.
For procedures to the heart, brain, etc., the needle is inserted in the upper thigh -- I'm not sure where it would be for this procedure. I will utter a slight note of frustration from my first angioplasty, in which an especially gorgeous nurse would check my groin every 15 minutes, assisted by my equally gorgeous wife. I'll tell you that "move and you bleed to death" is even worse than a cold shower.
Hopitus - 29 Apr 2005 19:38 GMT ROFL yes Howard you are either a doctor or a very smart nurse and I admire and are grateful for your expertise (which this former xray tech can only match re xrays and ER procedures relating to) I had two caths w/angioplasty @ different times (total of 4 caths and balloons + that beta radio pellet remedy for stopping scar tissue growth) and each time had the local, sedatives, + premed for iodide allergy....unlike you, I had strong sedation and did watch the whole thing though drunk as a skunk; yeah, heart caths hurt but not the whole time. What I was laughing @ was "move and you bleed to death"! Both times they left the cath cannula in overnight till second cath/balloon on the smaller blockage....did you, Howard, become an expert @ eating dinner off your chest while flat on you back, raising only your head? That's *lots* of fun, I can tell you. But hey, at least up to now I've been spared the open-heart bypass route (only had 2 blockage points: one the RCA itself, the other a tributary off the LAD. Thank God for stents. Thank you again for relieving Jill re her Daddy.
>> >> Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last >> >> year. One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > assisted by my equally gorgeous wife. I'll tell you that "move and you > bleed to death" is even worse than a cold shower. Howard Berkowitz - 29 Apr 2005 20:43 GMT > ROFL yes Howard you are either a doctor or a very smart nurse It's probably safest to say I'm not a doctor, but I simulate them on computers. One of my professional areas is clinical system automation, where I both design the software architecture but also deal with the clinicians to find out what they are trying to accomplish. Often, in clinical automation, the physicians and nurses tend to resent automation people, saying they are trying to force computers on them without understanding the problem.
In such cases, I often get sent in, but I won't talk about computers in the first few interviews -- I talk about cardiac pharmacology, intensive care, etc., until I build some credibility. One of the important things to get across is that I have to understand how they think in order to build models of it.
Originally, I started as an undergraduate biochemistry major intending to go into medicine, but life doesn't always turn out the way you planned. I continue to take continuing education for physicians, subscribe to major journals, and, where possible, participate in research (on both sides of the staff and patient line).
In fact, I'm trying to think of how I will respond to Jo's comment about a tube down the throat. I had that experience (transesophageal stress echocardiography) at NIH Clinical Center, but the procedure became at least R-rated. I'd have sworn that it was directed by Frederico Fellini.
>and I > admire [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > remedy for stopping scar tissue growth) and each time had the local, > sedatives, + premed for iodide allergy.... It sounds like you had yours more recently than mine. I'm having to think when they were; the CABG was in, IIRC, 1994. Even basic stents, to say nothing drug- or radiation eluting ones, weren't in use at the time.
>unlike you, I had strong > sedation [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > smaller > blockage.... That technique wasn't in use for my first PTCA, with the cath and the PTCA done in different hospitals, a week or two apart. It was done for the second.
<did you, Howard, become an expert @ eating dinner off your
> chest > while flat on you back, raising only your head? HA! Would you believe that the meal served to me after BOTH angioplasties, one in Washington DC and the other in California, was...be ready for this...
spaghetti and meatballs in tomato sauce.
I may not have bled much from the procedures, but after dinner and before cleanup, if you didn't know it was tomato sauce, you'd have seen me and thought I was a major trauma case!
> That's *lots* of fun, I can tell you. But hey, at least up to > now I've been spared the open-heart bypass route (only had 2 blockage [quoted text clipped - 55 lines] > > assisted by my equally gorgeous wife. I'll tell you that "move and you > > bleed to death" is even worse than a cold shower. Hopitus - 29 Apr 2005 21:51 GMT I cannot *believe* they served you that for dinner w/you flat on your back....that's much worse than what they served me: some gravy-covered meat blob surrounded by big spoonfuls of fresh green peas...the nurses (who were ordinarily chicks I worked w/every working day in the CCU unit for portables and C-arm bedside tasks) were softly cursing as they picked the peas out of my hair later that night......and in no mood for my cheery comment (I was sober by then), "You were right! I *don't* have a hangover even after being so stinkin' drunk!" LOL. Yes, my experience was 7/03 and 9/03; but I was actually kinda glad I didn't get one of the medicated stents (brand-new then) as I read and heard they had a significant side-effect death %...hopefully thats improved by now).
>> ROFL yes Howard you are either a doctor or a very smart nurse > [quoted text clipped - 122 lines] >> > assisted by my equally gorgeous wife. I'll tell you that "move and you >> > bleed to death" is even worse than a cold shower. Jo Firey - 29 Apr 2005 18:56 GMT >> Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last year. >> One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it still [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > amounts of narcotic in the IV. A leg procedure shouldn't produce this > sort of pain. You sound like me. I was pissed I didn't get to watch my lithotripsy. And I really should have asked for a video of my ear surgery. Of course I realize the assistant likely did most if not all of the actual surgery. but I don't really care. She's been assisting that surgeon for five years.
I gotta be out if they want to put a tube down my throat, (claustrophobia. I wanna be out before they even spray the numbing stuff in my throat) but otherwise some of this stuff is way interesting.
Jo
Catnipped - 29 Apr 2005 19:17 GMT > >> Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last year. > >> One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it still [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Jo I have a video of the bone reconstruction surgery they did on my shoulder taken by the laparoscopic camera (at least the part that was done by laparoscope) - it is *way* kewl.
Hugs,
CatNipped
Catnipped - 29 Apr 2005 20:09 GMT > I have a video of the bone reconstruction surgery they did on my shoulder > taken by the laparoscopic camera (at least the part that was done by [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > CatNipped Speaking of which, here are some pictures right after the bone reconstruction surgery (gross warning - the bruising was *really* spectacular!) ;>
http://www.possibleplaces.com/surgery.asp
Note to Tweed - they had me doing physical therapy the *next day after the surgery* and I was only taking Vicodin. The fear of pain is, I think, worse than the actual pain from surgery.
Hugs,
CatNipped
Marina - 30 Apr 2005 05:10 GMT >>While concern is justified, most balloon procedures do not use full >>anesthesia, just a local where the artery is entered, and a level of [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > You sound like me. I was pissed I didn't get to watch my lithotripsy. And > I really should have asked for a video of my ear surgery. My Dad would have wanted to watch the operation on his brain tumour, but wasn't allowed. I'm always just as happy to not see what they do to me. I can't even watch when they stick in the needle to draw blood from my arm, which is sort of crazy since I inject myself with my insulin pen five or more times a day, plus take several blood tests from my fingertips during the day.
 Signature Marina, Frank, Nikki, and Mere marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki
Kreisleriana - 29 Apr 2005 17:09 GMT >Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last year. >One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it still isn't [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Jill Vascular purrs for your dad.
Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 29 Apr 2005 17:14 GMT >Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last year. >One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it still isn't [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Jill You got it, Jill. Purrs on the way.
Ginger-lyn
Home Pages: http://www.spiritrealm.com/summer/ http://www.angelfire.com/folk/glsummer (homepage & cats) http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~summer/index.htm (genealogy) http://www.i-love-cats.com/meow/glsummer/ (The Violence Against Animals in Movies Website)
O J - 29 Apr 2005 17:41 GMT Jill wrote:
>Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last year. >One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it still isn't [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >invasive procedures (and anesthesia) at his age. Any spare purrs for a >successful outcome would be appreciated. Purrs that this procedure will do the trick and that he'll need no more of these invasive treatments.
Regards and Purrs, O J
Gabey8 - 29 Apr 2005 18:07 GMT Purrs and purr-ayers are on the way for a successful treatment!
Donna, Captain, and Stanley
mlbriggs - 29 Apr 2005 18:10 GMT > Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last year. > One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it still isn't [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jill Purrs for a successful procedure. MLB
Victor Martinez - 29 Apr 2005 21:42 GMT > Dad is approaching 81 years of age and I'm concerned about all these > invasive procedures (and anesthesia) at his age. Any spare purrs for a > successful outcome would be appreciated. Lots of purrs on the way.
 Signature Victor M. Martinez Owned and operated by the Fantastic Seven (TM) Send your spam here: uce@ftc.gov Email me here: pistorLITTER@BOXaustin.rr.com
Christina Websell - 29 Apr 2005 22:36 GMT Purrs for your father's surgery to be successful this time.
Tweed
> Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last year. > One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it still isn't [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jill Elise - 29 Apr 2005 23:43 GMT > Dad is approaching 81 years of age and I'm concerned about all these > invasive procedures (and anesthesia) at his age. Any spare purrs for a > successful outcome would be appreciated. Successful surgery and quick recovery purrs on the way
 Signature Elise (supervised by Gossamer & Jeeves) pics: http://photos.yahoo.com/dragonandthistle@snet.net
Adrian - 30 Apr 2005 10:30 GMT > Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last > year. One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Jill Purrs for your dad to have a good outcome and little pain.
 Signature Adrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat.
tanada - 30 Apr 2005 14:22 GMT > Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last year. > One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it still isn't [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jill Purrs and healthy thoughts and wishes headed your way from us all. Rob's Grandfather died on April 22 from pneumonia. He was in his high eighties, and had all sorts of similar operations as your father is having. If your father is as tough an old bird as Granddad, he'll use up 11 of his nine lives too.
Pam S. arranging purrs and meditations on your behalf
jmcquown - 30 Apr 2005 16:42 GMT >> Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last >> year. One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Pam S. arranging purrs and meditations on your behalf My father is a full bird "Colonel, USMC Retired" and he makes sure everyone knows it. It's on his checks, his mailing labels... can you say "proud"? LOL Well, he has every right to be. He served for 30 years; started out as an enlisted man at the age of 17. Got out (after WWII), went to college, reenlisted and went through Officer Training School. The future for him held Korea and Vietnam. Oh, joy.
I talked to him this morning. He said no, they are not doing a local anesthetic. They will be putting him under full anesthesia. Oh crap. He doesn't sound worried, but then, he wouldn't want to worry me. I'm still worried.
Jill
polonca12000 - 30 Apr 2005 19:00 GMT Lots of purrs and best wishes for the procedure to be very successful and for your dad to recover completely and soon,
 Signature Polonca & Soncek
> Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last year. > One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it still isn't [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jill Sam Nash - 01 May 2005 00:39 GMT > Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last year. > One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it still isn't [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jill Purrs that your Dad's "balloon trip" does the trick, finally. Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe
Steve Touchstone - 01 May 2005 08:19 GMT >Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last year. >One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it still isn't [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >invasive procedures (and anesthesia) at his age. Any spare purrs for a >successful outcome would be appreciated. Purr on the way for a succesful procedure and quick recovery
 Signature Steve Touchstone, faithful servant of Sammy and Little Bit
stouchst@JUNKsirinet.net [remove Junk for email] Home Page: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/index.html Cat Pix: http://www.sirinet.net/~stouchst/animals.html
Christine Burel - 02 May 2005 04:17 GMT Purrs coming for your dad, Jill. Christine
> Dad had surgery for blockages in the arteries in both his legs last year. > One didn't quite "take" and they went in again. Apparently it still isn't [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jill
|
|
|