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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / April 2005OTP Need advice re a "black eye"
When I woke up yesterday post ear surgery I felt fine. Even went and got an x-ray on my have and got my MTX labs done. Came home and took a nap and work up with a puffy "black eye" in the surgery side. Really pretty much all the tissue around the eye red and puffy. It was even worse this morning. Swollen nearly shut. Charlie finally dug my post op instruction out of one of his pockets in the dirty clothes and it doesn't address this. He called the ENT office several hours ago and hasn't heard back. I really have no idea if I should ice it or try heat you just do nothing. As it is I know the whole side of my face is going to be discolored for weeks. It's kind of what you would expect from plastic surgery. Jo Cheer up, Jo...chances are good you'll hear again soon. There is logic behind those old cartoons w/men w/black eyes putting steaks on the afflicted eye! Forget the steak but if you have an icepack OR - easier - grab a bag of frozen veggies from your freezer, smash it on sink a few times to loosen contents, wrap in soft cloth, recline yourself somewhere, and let this sit on black-eye area of your face. When it gets uncomfortable, take it off and then reapply again later (don't let the thing thaw completely). Your black eye will become eventually dark greenish, then lighter greenish, and should be gone in less than 2 weeks. Hope you feel better. Here's to improved hearing soon. Comfort purrs and meatloaf meditations from the Deadly Duo here. > When I woke up yesterday post ear surgery I felt fine. Even went and got > an x-ray on my have and got my MTX labs done. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Jo <SNIP> > It's kind of what you would expect from plastic surgery. > > Jo Sounds like what I went through after facial surgery... Long story, cycling accident. Unless you're showing signs if infection, treat it as a soft tissue injury... Ice, Arnica cream, lots of water. Of course, check with the hospital, just to make sure... Purring for a succesfull surgery, hope you get to hear your kitties soon... Mathew Butler to 2 kittens: Chablis & Muscat En Vino Veritas > When I woke up yesterday post ear surgery I felt fine. Even went and got > an x-ray on my have and got my MTX labs done. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Jo Oh my! I hope that's just normal post-op symptoms! Purrs that you'll get better very quickly. Hugs, CatNipped Sorry Jo, this is the first Ive seen of your update,sorry to hear of your black eye, I guess it could be a normal thing and maybe thats why its not on the post-operative list, but it is wise to check up on that, Hope its much better by now Hugs Jean.P. > > When I woke up yesterday post ear surgery I felt fine. Even went and got > > an x-ray on my have and got my MTX labs done. [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > CatNipped > When I woke up yesterday post ear surgery I felt fine. Even went and got an > x-ray on my have and got my MTX labs done. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > It's kind of what you would expect from plastic surgery. Any surgery around the face would likely eventuate in a black eye. I'd check with the surgeon of course, but in the mean time, treat it like you would any other black eye and watch out for any other symptoms or if the bruising doesn't fade. Here's hoping you have an otherwise very uneventful and quick recovery! Yowie > When I woke up yesterday post ear surgery I felt fine. Even went and got an > x-ray on my have and got my MTX labs done. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Jo >From what I recall, ice is fine. My Mom had terrible black eyes from a freak accident - she was working, looking up and talking to my brother who was repairing something, and a board flew/swung off it's nail and hit her between the eyes. The bruise eventually travelled down her face, down her neck, across the her chest and down into her arms, before it went away completely. -L. >> When I woke up yesterday post ear surgery I felt fine. Even went and > got an [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > > -L. Yikes. I am just about perfectly miserable today. My tongue is swollen enough its rubbing my teeth. The pressure from the plastic wound cover is making my ear hurt. Ear is swollen inside and itches. Eye looks awful and itches. Yesterday was "our" anniversary which DH "celebrated" for both of us by finishing my bottle of wine, and the one he bought for us and another we had tucked away for a special occasion. Grandsons decide to be absolute jerks, and also to have friends over. So not only didn't get any dinner, had an audience when I tried to fix myself something. And now everyone is mad at be cause my attitude seems to leave a little somethingto be desired. My guess it from here things just about have to improve right? At lease I'm still on speaking terms with the house painter. He's nearly done and my house looks better than it did the day we bought it new thirty five years ago. We will put him to work inside in July when it gets to hot to work outside. Jo i don't understand these mouth symptoms!! Did they put you "under" w/general anesthesia? If so, that could cause your tongue troubles and also a very sore throat if a tube was inserted while you were on a respirator. I know nothing about your surgery, as xray is never called for that except maybe sometimes a chest if anything arises during or right after....like a temp spike. Knowing nothing, I am ignorant of why your *eye* should be like this....where is that Berkowitz dude when we need him? He must be at least a nurse...he knows a lot more than I do. >>> When I woke up yesterday post ear surgery I felt fine. Even went and >> got an [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > Jo Lots of purrs and best wishes for you to start feeling much better really soon, Jo,  SignaturePolonca & Soncek > I am just about perfectly miserable today. My tongue is swollen enough its > rubbing my teeth. The pressure from the plastic wound cover is making my > ear hurt. Ear is swollen inside and itches. Eye looks awful and itches. <snip> > My guess it from here things just about have to improve right? I'm sure it will, Jo. Just hang in there! Keep in mind you may hear your cats purr one day. Until then, we are sending loads of cyberpurrs for all your discomfort to go away soonest. SignatureMarina, Frank, Nikki, and introducing: Mere! marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki > I am just about perfectly miserable today. My tongue is swollen > enough its rubbing my teeth. The pressure from the plastic wound [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Jo Purrs that you feel better ASAP. Soon you'll hear your kitties purring as well as feeling them. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat. Jo, continuing to send get-well soon purrs your way! Thinking of you. Christine > >> When I woke up yesterday post ear surgery I felt fine. Even went and > > got an [quoted text clipped - 51 lines] > > Jo So, Jo, has your facial swelling and black eye shown any improvement yet? Have you been able to "ice" the eye area and has it started to fade to "greenish" yet? Hope your pain is better now..... > When I woke up yesterday post ear surgery I felt fine. Even went and got > an x-ray on my have and got my MTX labs done. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Jo > So, Jo, has your facial swelling and black eye shown any > improvement yet? Have you been able to "ice" the eye > area and has it started to fade to "greenish" yet? Hope > your pain is better now..... The pain is not a problem. Not from the incision in any cast. The plastic doohickey they have over my ear and the wound and strapped around by head with elastic and Velcro. And glued to my forehead. Is pressing on my ear and making me crazy. The eye looks much better, though a friend who stopped by today said "what on earth happened?" so it only looks better compared to yesterday, No longer swollen shut. Best this is the swelling in my mouth and throat has gone down and my tongue now fits properly between my lower teeth. I'll be good as new in no time! Of course Molly is still scared to death of me and Jake isn't too sure either. I look like a space alien with this protective thing on the side of my head. Jo >>So, Jo, has your facial swelling and black eye shown any >>improvement yet? Have you been able to "ice" the eye [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Jo I think you at least need to call your doctor if not actually see them. What you have been describing in this thread does not sound right. I hope everything is ok. rrb <crossing my fingers, and the cats are purring/meatloafing away as hard as they can> > I think you at least need to call your doctor if not actually see them. > What you have been describing in this thread does not sound right. > I hope everything is ok. We have talked to the doctor and I'm fine. I'd have been better if Charlie hadn't folded up the post op instructions and stuck them in his pocket and then lost them for two days. The one about not lying flat would likely have prevented the black eye. But it is clearing up quickly. Going directly to pale yellow and skipping purple and green etc. I'm uncomfortable but that is really all. Trying to decide if it is warm enough out to go for a walk and if I look bad enough to traumatize small children. Jo > I'm uncomfortable but that is really all. Trying to decide if it is warm > enough out to go for a walk and if I look bad enough to traumatize small > children. <<<<<JO>>>>> Purrs and healing thoughts and wishes. It will be much better soon. And you have something special to hope and pray for, that will make all of this worth while. We're sending special hearing purrs and thoughts winging your way for the implant to work. Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Six + Kittens, and Speedy the d-thing >> I'm uncomfortable but that is really all. Trying to decide if it is warm >> enough out to go for a walk and if I look bad enough to traumatize small [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Pam, Rob, and the Fayetteville Six + Kittens, and Speedy the d-thing Thank you so much. Very nervous making since they have no way to predict till they turn it on. Jo How *do* they "turn it on"? Do they have to get inside your head again or do they have some kind of remote control for it? >>> I'm uncomfortable but that is really all. Trying to decide if it is >>> warm enough out to go for a walk and if I look bad enough to traumatize [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Jo > How *do* they "turn it on"? Do they have to get inside your head again or > do they have some kind of remote > control for it? Remote control. There in an internal thing that is literally wired into the cochlea in my right ear. That is just under the scalp behind my right ear. The external processor will stick to the internal one through my scalp with a magnet as I understand it. The wait is for the wound in the scalp to heal. Then they can use the remote to program it to work best for me. I don't know if I get volume control or if it does its own volume control like my hearing aid does or what. Jo Glad to hear things are on the improve Jo. dont mind the 'rellie's' they didn't have the procedure so they dont know how they would have reacted, my son kept telling me not to waddle, and to 'bend those knees' mam, when I had just had two knee replacements at the same time, he was just trying to help, but I told him if he'd had the same thing done he'd still be lying on his bed like most males I'm still laughing at his look of horror when he replied " I"ll NEVER have it done Mam after seeing you". Hugs Jean.P. > > So, Jo, has your facial swelling and black eye shown any > > improvement yet? Have you been able to "ice" the eye [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Jo > When I woke up yesterday post ear surgery I felt fine. Even went and got > an [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > It's kind of what you would expect from plastic surgery. This is the sort of thing where it's really advisable to have the surgeon see it. Without knowing exactly what was done and how that blood and other internal fluids would leak internally, it's hard to guess. That being said, the general principle is that you ice an area as long as it is still bleeding (or producing other fluids) internally, and then use moist heat when the fluids/clots/bruises have settled. A practical caveat, however, is to do the one that feels best. With any surgery where the tissue is close to the bone and there's not much room for things to spread, puffiness is common. This is true of most things on the head and some on the hand. [Gross Warning on relevant material] Plastic surgeons, who really are the experts on wound healing, not infrequently use sterile leeches to get fluid out. They may seem gross, but also are painless. > Plastic surgeons, who really are the experts on wound healing, not > infrequently use sterile leeches to get fluid out. They may seem gross, > but also are painless. Well, they certainly have a long history of medical use! (The difference is their use is more appropriate now, because they ceased to be an automatic "cure all".) .....Then there was "bleeding" - which might conceivably have had some temporary effect on "apoplexy" (high blood pressure), but didn't do the patient much good if he were already suffering from loss of blood after being wounded on the battlefield!
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