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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / April 2005OTish, New Computer
Hi folks, I cracked with Joel's relentless pressure, and finally bought a new PC. It has all the new fangled gadgets and numbers that a brand new "cool" computer ought to have. Quite frankly, I thought all the old one needed was a good hard drive format and re-build, because it ran Outlook Express, Internet Explorer and Bubbels just fine when it was rebooted (it just kept having these weird micro-hangs that got more frequent and longer over time until you rebooted it again), but apprantly modern PC games simply won't run on a pentium 833 that onlh has a 2 gig HD and bugger all memory. To save money, we only bought the tower, not the peripherals, so the old monitor, keyboard, mouse and modem have all gone to the new computer. All fine and good, but on the old computer, I have Outlook Express configured perfectly for my use. My address book is on it. Years and years of collected e-mail are on it, and quite frankly I am loathe to set it all up again. I have 43 different message rules, and it took literally *years* for me to get them all set up in the right order so all mail and newsgroups are sorted correctly. Which means until I can persuade someone to take out the hard drive from the old PC and install it into the new PC as a slave drive, or find hte time to set-up everything on the new PC, I am pretty much without e-mail access and newsgroup access from home. I can access all my e-mail addies via the web, but its slow and annoying, and I don't have an address book with all my contacts on the web. And while I can access the group via Google, y'all know how tiresome that can be compared to a newsreader. So please bear with me and forgive lost e-mails and or very late replies, as I'll be *trying* to keep up, but may miss things. And, hopefully, all thigns going well, we'll finally have broadband at the start of next month too! (Our old PC with W98 couldn't cope with broadband either) Yowie > Hi folks, > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > Yowie Yowie, can you export your old Outlook Express into the new one? If not directly via a slave drive, I think Yahoo! has the ability to do that (at least for your address book, if not the rules). Hugs, CatNipped Yowie, dear, I'm hardly (LOL) the 'puter expert about anything re hardware but reading your post reminded me of a minor disaster I suffered re moving here and setup of my new gamer-type PC I'm now enjoying. I had every intention of somehow transferring data from my old hard drive from old '98-version Compaq short-tower to new hard drive, as just as you say, my old hard drive had tons of addys from cyberpals I'd made between late '98 and spring of last year, when I shut down ISP and got ready to move here. On that hard drive was also lotsa cat graphics & also tons of good tunes from when Napster was free and downloading was free and easy. In our ignorance son & I loaded short tower PC into truck cab floor on shotgun side, fearing for its safety if it were to weather the long trip to CO inside the large trailer son towed here w/my larger belongings inside. Big mistake... my other son painstakingly constructed my new state-of-the-art 'puter here and was ready to get his knowledgeable buddies to make their livings @ tech support to help him transfer all that data to new hard drive. CAT's son was kind enough to offer to do this for me but he informed me that static (probably from the long trip's jostling) had wiped out all data from old hard drive! Denver son was not surprised at all by this fact but I was really upset at what my ignorance had caused...but am over it now, pretty much. S*** happens. But Yowie I think you ought to get that data into the new hard drive by whatever means ASAP, don't you? Good luck; I'm sure you and Joel are much smarter than me about the methods possible. >> Hi folks, >> [quoted text clipped - 52 lines] > > CatNipped > Yowie, dear, I'm hardly (LOL) the 'puter expert about anything re hardware > but reading your post reminded me [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > by whatever means ASAP, don't you? Good luck; I'm sure you and Joel are much > smarter than me about the methods possible. Well, if it can'tbe transferred (I"m going to *pay* someone to do it) then I'll start burning discs. But I"d much prefer to transfer it, as there's too much crap to put on one CD these days. besides, I'd like a HD all to myself. It may be tiny, but then Joel can't yell at me that all my crap is slowing down his games. Yowie Whatever that might cost, probably cheaper than what they charge here to *restore* the wiped-out date to that old hard drive that static destroyed...$200 to $400. I abandoned all hope after learning that (too expensive). But am still in awe that restoring it is at all possible! >> Yowie, dear, I'm hardly (LOL) the 'puter expert about anything re >> hardware [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > > Yowie > Whatever that might cost, probably cheaper than what they charge > here to *restore* the wiped-out date to that old hard drive that > static destroyed...$200 to $400. I abandoned all hope after > learning that (too expensive). But am still in awe that > restoring it is at all possible! The company I work for does govmt contract work, and some of what they've done in the legal litigation area astounds me. They can seize a computer and restore almost anything that's been deleted. Without modifying anything, including dates.  SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > Well, if it can'tbe transferred (I"m going to *pay* someone to > do it) then I'll start burning discs. But I"d much prefer to > transfer it, as there's too much crap to put on one CD these > days. There used to be sites that allowed you to "file share". I haven't looked into that in eons. What I'd do if I couldn't hook up my old drive as a slave (but I'm a puter geek, so that would have been top 'o the list) is to zip up my "profile" (usually c:\documents and settings\cheryl\* or Win 98 c:\windows\profiles\cheryl\*) and upload the zip file to one of those file sharing sites. My "profile" on this laptop is over 200 MB so it wouldn't compress enough to email to myself, but I'd also find the pertinent files and email it to something like hotmail web mail so I could download it when the new puter is hooked up. Congrats on the new puter even though getting everything back to "normal" is a PITA. :) SignatureCheryl "The clever cat eats cheese and breathes down rat holes with baited breath." - W.C. Fields > Well, if it can'tbe transferred (I"m going to *pay* someone to do it) then > I'll start burning discs. But I"d much prefer to transfer it, as there's too [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Yowie You should be able to transfer it with a zip drive, if nothing else. No need to burn CDs. -L. I dunno about Oz but I was under the impression that here (and I recently bought a PC) the newest, greatest, bells-and-whistles don't come w/zips anymore. My son had to go out of his way to get a floppy drive for this one. >> Well, if it can'tbe transferred (I"m going to *pay* someone to do it) > then [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -L. > I dunno about Oz but I was under the impression that here (and I recently bought a PC) the newest, greatest, > bells-and-whistles don't come w/zips anymore. My son > had to go out of his way to get a floppy drive for this one. They don't, but a portable zip is a fast and easy way to transfer a lot of data. :) I didn't know she was in Oz, BTW... -L. Hop is right, the latest & greatest new PCs don't come with zips or floppy drives. Removable media is only CD-ROMS or USB memory sticks. Were were asked if we wanted a floppy drive and I answered "why? I don't have any floppys, and CD-ROMS are cheaper these days - and certainly easier to find - than floppies anyway" I'm still going for the slave HD idea, but if that doesnt' work, I'll start burning CD-ROMS. Uploading all the files to the net at the moment whilst we are still on dial-up would be like watching grass grow, and I am not goign to wait till we get broadband to have this sorted out. I wouldn'tbe a class one net junkie if I coudl wait that long :-). But thanks for all the suggestions anyway. I am rather out of the geek circuit these days and am happy to learn about the latest tricks. Yowie > I dunno about Oz but I was under the impression that here > (and I recently bought a PC) the newest, greatest, > bells-and-whistles don't come w/zips anymore. My son > had to go out of his way to get a floppy drive for this one. > Yowie wrote: >> Well, if it can'tbe transferred (I"m going to *pay* someone to do it) [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > -L. > Hop is right, the latest & greatest new PCs don't come with zips or floppy > drives. Removable media is only CD-ROMS or USB memory sticks. FWIW, this is what I was referencing: http://www.iomega.com/na/products/family-save.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=16006169 &ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=63191&bmUID=1114061416437 They run about $150 and are really handy for transferring large amounts of data between computers. I think the latest ones can transfer like 95GB or something. A lot of computer services use them for doing just that. My DH is a hardware design engineer and they use them as back-up when their LAN or net access is down. He has one here that he uses when our home LAN is down. Just FWIW... -L. > > Hop is right, the latest & greatest new PCs don't come with zips or > floppy > > drives. Removable media is only CD-ROMS or USB memory sticks. > > FWIW, this is what I was referencing: http://www.iomega.com/na/products/family-save.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1600 6169&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=63191&bmUID=1114061416437 > They run about $150 and are really handy for transferring large amounts > of data between computers. I think the latest ones can transfer like [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Just FWIW... Sorry, had a *'duh* moment back there. I didn't mean to imply that zip drive aren't available, just that they aren't standard on a home "gaming" PC. Yowie Something else you might think about is an external enclosure for your old drive... That way you could use it to transfer large quantities of data between two computers if you ever needed to. It would be like having a "slave" drive, but it's not acutally in the main box. Katrina > Hop is right, the latest & greatest new PCs don't come with zips or floppy > drives. Removable media is only CD-ROMS or USB memory sticks. Were were [quoted text clipped - 35 lines] >> >> -L. > Something else you might think about is an external enclosure for your > old drive... That way you could use it to transfer large quantities > of data between two computers if you ever needed to. It would be like > having a "slave" drive, but it's not acutally in the main box. > > Katrina That's what I did when my old PC died, with a USB2 connection it seems just as fast as an internal drive. It's aslo very usefull for transfering very large files to another computer if you ever need to. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat. >> Well, if it can'tbe transferred (I"m going to *pay* someone to do it) > then [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > -L. How about a jump drive (USB memory stick that acts like a hard drive). If both computers have USB ports, that's the quickest way. Just got a 1GB one for US$60. Sam > >> Well, if it can'tbe transferred (I"m going to *pay* someone to do it) > > then [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > both computers have USB ports, that's the quickest way. > Just got a 1GB one for US$60. I'll be getting one of those sooner or later :-), but the problem remains of two PCS, one monitor, one mouse, one keyboard. If the idea of the slave drive doesn't work, and I've found a reasonalbly priced USB drive by then, I'll probably go that way. Yowie >> >> Well, if it can'tbe transferred (I"m going to *pay* someone to do it) >> > then [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Yowie I know it isn't perfect, but I seem to remember emailing myself some files once to transfer them. Last time I got lucky and just ran a wire between the two computers. But then I've always had spare keyboards etd lying around.. Jo > And, hopefully, all thigns going well, we'll finally have broadband at the > start of next month too! (Our old PC with W98 couldn't cope with broadband > either) Yay about the broadband! That's wonderful. My computer is getting ojn in years, and i was afraid something would happen to it and I would lose everthing on it, like all the pics of the cats, so I bought an external hard drive where I saved backup copies of everything really important. The external HD is 40 GB, though it's tiny little box. Amazing to this computer blonde. SignatureMarina, Frank, Nikki, and introducing: Mere! marina (dot) kurten (at) pp (dot) inet (dot) fi Pics at http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/frankiennikki/ and http://community.webshots.com/user/frankiennikki Congrats on the new computer. I know transferring the data is a hassle. When I got my new computer, I just burned a bunch of CD's to transfer it. I kept the CD's and at least all my stuff is backed up now. I'm jealous that you can get broadband now. I was so excited when I heard ADSL had finally come to my little "elephant village". Called the guy up (even got the number of an English speaking dude - a rare and precious thing!) and he sent out the people to look at my line. Well, turns out that I live 1 km too far away from the phone exchange! D'oh! My hopes and dreams were dashed instantly :-( -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Hi folks, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > frequent and longer over time until you rebooted it again), but > apprantly modern PC games simply won't run on a pentium 833 that onlh > has a 2 gig HD and bugger all memory. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Express configured perfectly for my use. My address book is on it. > Years and years of collected e-mail are on it, and quite frankly I am > loathe to set it all up again. I have 43 different message rules, and > it took literally *years* for me to get them all set up in the right > order so all mail and newsgroups are sorted correctly. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > the web. And while I can access the group via Google, y'all know how > tiresome that can be compared to a newsreader. So please bear with me > and forgive lost e-mails and or very late replies, as I'll be > *trying* to keep up, but may miss things. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Yowie > Congrats on the new computer. I know transferring the data is a > hassle. When I got my new computer, I just burned a bunch of CD's to [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Britta > "There is congrats on the new computer, Yowie! Britta, I don't live in an elephant village but I guess I might as well, because I am too far out in the "sticks" to get broadband. I bet you get it before I do! :-) Sherry Sherry, here is some news that will make you feel much better about not having broadband ISP: over the past several weeks now I have noticed that now and again my connection speeds have become so sluggish that I sit watching for several seconds and often have to refresh before the connection comes through. This is apparently so widespread through our major broadband ISP provider that it's even been mentioned on network tv lately! I thought I was imaging things and kept resetting my cable modem before I saw on tv that this provider is claiming the slowdowns are due to "massive overhauling of the system for improvements". While they "massive overhaul" we subscribers to cable are paying the highest prices for ISP there is...maybe w/exception of T3's and that kind of business hightech stuff. Aaarrrrrr! as Cap'n Pine Cone esq. would growl.......as I enjoy a connection speed slightly higher than dialup....grrrr. >> Congrats on the new computer. I know transferring the data is a >> hassle. When I got my new computer, I just burned a bunch of CD's to [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Sherry > Sherry, here is some news that will make you feel much > better about not having broadband ISP: over the past several weeks [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > our major broadband ISP provider that it's even been mentioned on > network tv lately! I thought I was imaging things and kept resetting > my cable modem before I saw on tv that this provider is claiming the > slowdowns are due to "massive overhauling of the system for [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Pine Cone esq. would growl.......as I enjoy a connection speed > slightly higher than dialup....grrrr. Well, for $23/month, I enjoy the priviledge of 100 hours dial up at speeds ranging from 28.8kbps to 40kbps, with a minimum of 3 daily disconnections, more in the rainy season. I would pay for a connection speed slighly higher than dial up, at least I wouldn't constantly have to redial. It costs me 8 cents every time I dial too and that sure can add up. -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album Well, Britta, you've topped my complaint....I was raving about paying premium for bad service, but I have a choice here and don't *have* to have cable speed; I could opt for dialup....but out there where you live in what sounds to me like 3rd World conditions they got you as the saying goes by the short hairs AFA ISP service options. You have no idea how much I admire you for even living where you do; living conditions in western Europe would be about as exotic as I'd ever care to experience. >> Sherry, here is some news that will make you feel much >> better about not having broadband ISP: over the past several weeks [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > Check out pictures of Vino at: > http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Well, Britta, you've topped my complaint....I was raving > about paying premium for bad service, but I have a choice here and > don't *have* to have cable speed; I could opt for dialup....but out > there where you live in what sounds to me like 3rd World conditions > they got you as the saying goes by the short hairs AFA ISP service > options. You have no idea how much I admire you for even living where > you do; living conditions in western Europe would be about as exotic > as I'd ever care to experience. Well, it's not like all of Thailand is like this. In Bangkok there are tons of different broadband options, as well as in Pattaya, 45 min away from me. I just happen to live in a small town of maybe 10,000 people. And they did just get DSL, it's just that I'm 1 km too far from the exchange. C'est la vie, I guess! I'd still rather live here than in the big smoke where your snot turns black in 2 hours or in Pattaya, the cesspool that is the sex trade capital of the world. Ugh. Believe me, western Europe isn't very exotic. When I first moved to Canada from Munich, Germany at age 10, I couldn't believe what kind of backwoods country I was going to be forced to grow up in. Now I'd never want to go back to Germany to live, LOL! -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Sherry, here is some news that will make you feel much > better about not having broadband ISP: over the past several weeks now I [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Pine Cone esq. would growl.......as I enjoy a connection speed slightly > higher than dialup....grrrr. Yes, Comcast has been having major problems the last couple of weeks. Even after they got the DNS problem under control (which should have never happened in the first place ) they now have speed issues. Its frustrating. Comcast techs have been to my house twice in the last week and gave me a new modem that didn't solve the speed problem because the problen isn't on my end. ggrrrr. They need to get their act in gear!! Checkout www.dslreports.com for all the discussion about Comcast lately. Not pretty. My biggest beef with them is that they wouldn't admit to having a problem, they didn't give us the workaround for the DNS problem (easy fix!) once they did realize they had a problem and even then, they didn't notify us, the customer, about it. Even their network status page kept saying everything was operational. Can you tell I've had it? LOL |
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