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sriddles@aol.com - 17 Apr 2005 06:05 GMT
We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward turkey
in the back yard. I have called everyone within a 5 mile radius and NO
ONE has turkeys. I cannot imagine where she came from.
Someone told me it is a wild turkey. I can't imagine that either. She
is so tame she practically eats out of my hand. And she won't leave.
Apparently she has no intention of leaving because she roosted tonight
in a tree right by the house.
But here is the funny, and OT part. Bootsie immediately stalked the
turkey *chattering* like she was stalking a sparrow, and chased it. I
made her come in, and stay in the rest of the day/night. She is so mad.
She sits in the window, chattering, and the turkey just seems a little
nonplussed by that.
I really don't know what to do with the poor thing. If anyone here
knows anything about wild turkeys, and can ID this one as one, please
let me know.

http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/sherryturkey.jpg

http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/turkey.jpg

Sherry
jmcquown - 17 Apr 2005 06:51 GMT
> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward turkey
> in the back yard. I have called everyone within a 5 mile radius and NO
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>
> Sherry

Yup, that there's a wild turkey.  Can't tell you where it came from but you
seem to have made a friend :)

Jill
Hopitus - 17 Apr 2005 06:59 GMT
Sorry I can't help you, Sherry, but *be careful* around
that Big Bird....several times lately I see several different turkies
chasing cops into their cruisers (not around here;
turkeys would've frozen their butts off outside here) and
it was funny to watch, but not funny if you were the cop
trying to catch "vicious turkeys" in a nonpopulated area.
Don't let her bite you (or whatever, if they don't have teeth).
It's a long time till Thanksgiving....do they eat chickenfeed?

>> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward turkey
>> in the back yard. I have called everyone within a 5 mile radius and NO
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>
> Jill
jmcquown - 17 Apr 2005 11:24 GMT
> Sorry I can't help you, Sherry, but *be careful* around
> that Big Bird....several times lately I see several different turkies
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> Don't let her bite you (or whatever, if they don't have teeth).
> It's a long time till Thanksgiving....do they eat chickenfeed?

Turkeys don't have teeth.  Your cops must be wimps!  They probably can bite
but geese are the mean ones.  Cracked corn and "chicken mash" from a feed
store will probably work.  Set up a pen for the turkey and enjoy your new
friend!  You might even see some bittie chicks if she mates!

Jill

>>> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward
>>> turkey in the back yard. I have called everyone within a 5 mile
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>>
>> Jill
Hopitus - 17 Apr 2005 18:39 GMT
ROFL....no, these cops jumping into their cars with the
irate turkey at their heels were somewhere other than here. Denver cops have
a rep for bad community relations and gunning down residents when they
mistake
soda cans in sleeping residents hands for weapons and
waste said residents @ close range. You think I'm kidding?  Wish I was. No
turkey would drive our finest
into their patrol cars!
I didn't realize turkeys are kinda like big chickens - no
teeth. I myself have been chased by geese in state parks.
We had chickens in backyard pens when I was a kid in
Miami, but they were all mellow.

>> Sorry I can't help you, Sherry, but *be careful* around
>> that Big Bird....several times lately I see several different turkies
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>>>
>>> Jill
Victor Martinez - 17 Apr 2005 19:19 GMT
> it was funny to watch, but not funny if you were the cop
> trying to catch "vicious turkeys" in a nonpopulated area.

Once I was chased by a flock of turkeys when I was little. Very scary birds!

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Jo Firey - 17 Apr 2005 20:15 GMT
>> it was funny to watch, but not funny if you were the cop
>> trying to catch "vicious turkeys" in a nonpopulated area.
>
> Once I was chased by a flock of turkeys when I was little. Very scary
> birds!

The high school I went to had a pond and several swans.  Now those are scary
birds when they are pissed off.

Jo
jmcquown - 17 Apr 2005 20:42 GMT
>>> it was funny to watch, but not funny if you were the cop
>>> trying to catch "vicious turkeys" in a nonpopulated area.
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>
> Jo

Swans are very mean birds!  I think there is a reason people don't eat them.

Jill
Kreisleriana - 17 Apr 2005 21:14 GMT
>>>> it was funny to watch, but not funny if you were the cop
>>>> trying to catch "vicious turkeys" in a nonpopulated area.
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>
>Swans are very mean birds!  I think there is a reason people don't eat them.

Because they'll kick your @$$!!

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Yowie - 18 Apr 2005 01:27 GMT
> >>>> it was funny to watch, but not funny if you were the cop
> >>>> trying to catch "vicious turkeys" in a nonpopulated area.
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>
> Because they'll kick your @$$!!

They must be different from Australian Black Swans. Cary, Joel and I tried
to feed them bread, but the local ducks, pelicans and *especially* the
seagulls took most of it off them. They didn't strike me as particularly
bright *or* agressive.

Then again, I suspect that on the scale of things, no native Australian
animal is up there with the brainiest.

Yowie
jmcquown - 18 Apr 2005 12:35 GMT
>>>>>> it was funny to watch, but not funny if you were the cop
>>>>>> trying to catch "vicious turkeys" in a nonpopulated area.
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>
> Yowie

Oh but you have wonderful wild parrots!  Prettier birds than we have here in
the States.

Jill
Kreisleriana - 18 Apr 2005 15:09 GMT
>>>>>>> it was funny to watch, but not funny if you were the cop
>>>>>>> trying to catch "vicious turkeys" in a nonpopulated area.
[quoted text clipped - 27 lines]
>Oh but you have wonderful wild parrots!  Prettier birds than we have here in
>the States.

Yes, but they go around in huge gangs, and shriek like banshees first
thing in the morning

When I was there, I was delighted to see such different birds than at
home.  Rosellas, sulfer-crested cockatoos, galahs.  I even saw some
wild budgies.  But at five in the morning-- gaaaaaaaaah!!!!!

I especially like the galahs, although farmers hate them.  A huge
flock of pink parrots is an amazing sight.

The other birds I liked, that could potentially drive someone bonkers,
were the little bellbirds, going  BING! BING! all the time. ;)

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Mary - 18 Apr 2005 16:46 GMT
> I especially like the galahs, although farmers hate them.  A huge
> flock of pink parrots is an amazing sight.

Wow, just imagining this cheered me up!
Yowie - 19 Apr 2005 03:31 GMT
> >>>>>>> it was funny to watch, but not funny if you were the cop
> >>>>>>> trying to catch "vicious turkeys" in a nonpopulated area.
[quoted text clipped - 40 lines]
> The other birds I liked, that could potentially drive someone bonkers,
> were the little bellbirds, going  BING! BING! all the time. ;)

A flock of galahs is a sight to behold. They're mad, you see, and do all
sorts of acts of tomfoolery, especially when there is an audience. They're
happy to bob up and down, turn aroun don the telegraph wires, do stupid
tricks, and act like, well, a galah. They ruin TV antennas by doing
acrobatics on them, and the whole flock trying to land on one all at once.

Hence "stop being a galah, you fool".

I love the sound of bellbirds, but my very favourite dusk/dawn sound is that
of the Australian magpie. A sweeter song I have never heard.

Yowie
sriddles@aol.com - 19 Apr 2005 04:28 GMT
> > When I was there, I was delighted to see such different birds than at
> > home.  Rosellas, sulfer-crested cockatoos, galahs.  I even saw some
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>
> Yowie

I think I would love Australia. I can't even try to imagine seeing
flocks of wild parrots. And bellbirds!! I'm going off now to see if I
can find some website with a sound-thingy.
I don't care one whit about the latest fashions or the trendiest
shopping places, so the big city-thing isn't on my list. While
Alaska/the arctic has amazing wildnerness, wildlife,  and probably
beautiful, I can't stand to be cold. Like Baby Bear says, I think
Australia would be juuuust right.
Kreisleriana - 19 Apr 2005 19:49 GMT
>> > When I was there, I was delighted to see such different birds than
>at
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>flocks of wild parrots. And bellbirds!! I'm going off now to see if I
>can find some website with a sound-thingy.

Well, they go "BING! BING! BING! BING!"  ;)

>I don't care one whit about the latest fashions or the trendiest
>shopping places, so the big city-thing isn't on my list. While
>Alaska/the arctic has amazing wildnerness, wildlife,  and probably
>beautiful, I can't stand to be cold. Like Baby Bear says, I think
>Australia would be juuuust right.

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Kreisleriana - 19 Apr 2005 19:48 GMT
>> >>>>>>> it was funny to watch, but not funny if you were the cop
>> >>>>>>> trying to catch "vicious turkeys" in a nonpopulated area.
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>
>Hence "stop being a galah, you fool".

My ex-husband always called me a "silly galah."

>I love the sound of bellbirds, but my very favourite dusk/dawn sound is that
>of the Australian magpie. A sweeter song I have never heard.

How about currawongs?

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Yowie - 20 Apr 2005 06:42 GMT
> >> >>>>>>> it was funny to watch, but not funny if you were the cop
> >> >>>>>>> trying to catch "vicious turkeys" in a nonpopulated area.
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>
> How about currawongs?

Nah, currawongs just say "currawong, currawong", but the magpie....

Hear the sound of the Australian bush (including the magpie and currawong):

http://www.anbg.gov.au/sounds/

And the bellbird (Ack!) in the background of this web page. And yes, they do
drive you nuts after a while.

http://dcfraser.customer.netspace.net.au/bellbird_corner.htm

And try:

http://www.ku.edu/~cmed/rehnotes/birdcalls.html

Yowie

Yowie
Kreisleriana - 17 Apr 2005 20:56 GMT
>>> it was funny to watch, but not funny if you were the cop
>>> trying to catch "vicious turkeys" in a nonpopulated area.
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>
>Jo

My local park has a family of them.  Amazing to see them grow up-- in
a single summer, they go from goofy little fluffballs to huge, brown
swan-shaped delinquents.

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Hopitus - 17 Apr 2005 21:11 GMT
Thinking of them as a food source, reason they're not
popular as hoomin food is they probably taste like fish,
just like the wild turkeys in the Everglades....because that's what they
eat.
Of course, a proud turkey hunter would never let that
fact keep him from consuming his catch..........but I've
turned down many a dinner invitation from these dudes
over the years after a successful day in the 'glades. I
did attend one such feast......once and only once. I prefer
the bland taste of farm-raised turkey; when I want to taste fish I'll eat a
fish.

>>>> it was funny to watch, but not funny if you were the cop
>>>> trying to catch "vicious turkeys" in a nonpopulated area.
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Marina - 18 Apr 2005 04:36 GMT
> The high school I went to had a pond and several swans.  Now those are scary
> birds when they are pissed off.

Oh yes, swans can be terrifying. We have a lot of swans around the
island. None of the cats will go near them. They usually get out of the
way if humans approach, unless you come too near their nests. Ever heard
a swan hiss? Frightening.

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Jo Firey - 18 Apr 2005 04:46 GMT
>> The high school I went to had a pond and several swans.  Now those are
>> scary birds when they are pissed off.
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> humans approach, unless you come too near their nests. Ever heard a swan
> hiss? Frightening.

Yes I've heard them hiss.  It isn't easy to outrun an angry swan while you
are wearing ice skates.  And you sure don't stop to take your skates off.

Usually when we would go to the pond we'd stop by the grainery and get corn
to keep them busy.

Jo
Hopitus - 18 Apr 2005 05:15 GMT
This is wierd input but I personally would rather take on a hissing fowl of
any sort rather than have a hissing cockroach experiernce such as 'Nipped
recently treated us to.....thank you very much.

>>> The high school I went to had a pond and several swans.  Now those are
>>> scary birds when they are pissed off.
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>
> Jo
sriddles@aol.com - 18 Apr 2005 05:23 GMT
> This is wierd input but I personally would rather take on a hissing fowl of
> any sort rather than have a hissing cockroach experiernce such as 'Nipped
> recently treated us to.....thank you very much.

I don't know. I've never seen swans except at the zoo, but Jo's
experience is probably comparable to geese. I used to constantly have
bruises on the calves of my legs from me and my sister's damn goose who
would pinch the crap out of you if you turned your back on him. He
started out as one of those cute colored Easter goslings. At least
cockroaches don't leave bruises.

Sherry
Hopitus - 18 Apr 2005 18:34 GMT
ROFL....not unless you fall down the stairs w/one!

>> This is wierd input but I personally would rather take on a hissing
> fowl of
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Sherry
:-\)Liz - 18 Apr 2005 19:31 GMT
Snipped from? Sherry?>>> At least
> > cockroaches don't leave bruises.....

Ha! Texas cockroaches do! And they steal whole  onions and carry off tin
catfood bowls...All true! Happened to us when we "lived'(if you can call it
living!)in Houston...Liz shudders remember the NASTY HUGE roachroaches
there!!!!!!
sriddles@aol.com - 18 Apr 2005 20:10 GMT
:-)Liz wrote:
> Snipped from? Sherry?>>> At least
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> there!!!!!!
>  >

Oh man. Now wait a minute. Cockroaches carrying off catfood bowls?
COCKROACHES???? Now *that* is the stuff nightmares are made of.
What I call a cockroach is a brown bug about 1/2" long. Only there can
be *hundreds* of them--we moved into a roach-infested rent house when
we were young, I never saw such numbers of anything before or since. I
went to kitchen in the middle of the night w/out my glasses, I thought
the pattern on the tile floor was moving. It was hundreds of bugs.
Do your Texas Cockroaches invade homes like that, by the hundreds??
Geez-o-pete.
Hopitus - 18 Apr 2005 20:42 GMT
I don't think TX has an exclusive contract w/roaches in
quantities you mention, Sherry.....sounds lots like the s.FL I left behind
recently. The little devils go out in the
dark looking for food. I successfully managed to make my house fairly
inhospitable to them there with one fact
and one purchased aid: they don't especially enjoy A/C
environments, and house was A/C all year except winter,
not because it was cold but because unnecessary in winter. Purchased item
was "Roach Motels" (I always bought the largest size so those &%&%*#
palmetto bugs could fit inside, eat the poison, and die as well as the
regular size roaches). I would find their belly-up bodies in am's when
staggering to kitchen. Much less smelly than
spraying, very effective, and harmless to all the cats, who showed no
interest in the strange little black boxes spread all over the house in
corners and counters. They
ain't cheap, but boy did they work!
CO residence benefit (you thought all I'd ever do was gripe, didn't you?) is
this: I have seen ONE roach since living here, and he was outside, walking
around our huge
garbage dumpster. He was just a big roach, not a palmetto bug (no wings).
The natives say there are spiders here, but I haven't seen any, and I like
spiders, kinda.
Hope the roach-fighting tips above from an old"FL cracker" may be of some

> :-)Liz wrote:
>> Snipped from? Sherry?>>> At least
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Do your Texas Cockroaches invade homes like that, by the hundreds??
> Geez-o-pete.
Kreisleriana - 18 Apr 2005 21:11 GMT
>I don't think TX has an exclusive contract w/roaches in
>quantities you mention, Sherry.....sounds lots like the s.FL I left behind
>recently. The little devils go out in the
>dark looking for food

How any cockroaches does it take to change a lightbulb?

Don't know.  When you turn the lights on, they scatter!  ;)

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Adrian - 20 Apr 2005 11:30 GMT
>> I don't think TX has an exclusive contract w/roaches in
>> quantities you mention, Sherry.....sounds lots like the s.FL I left
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Don't know.  When you turn the lights on, they scatter!  ;)

I've heard worse. I'm not sure I remember when. ;-)
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PatM - 19 Apr 2005 01:42 GMT
{CO residence benefit (you thought all I'd ever do was gripe, didn't
you?) is
this: I have seen ONE roach since living here, and he was outside,
walking
around our huge
garbage dumpster. He was just a big roach, not a palmetto bug (no
wings). }

My hubby and I used to live in Denver (where they built the convention
ctr).  Old building.  We had those nasty little brown cockroaches that
come out in the dark.  Lots of them!  Ewwwwww...  Had to keep
everything-including toothbrushes-in the fridge!  The cats basically
ignored them!  It must have been like my Aunt Glenda who went to work
in a doughnut shop and couldn't look a doughnut in the eye anymore!LOL
PatM
:-\)Liz - 18 Apr 2005 21:38 GMT
I think the exterminators call them "Water Bugs" so their guarantee won't
cover them....Yes...cockroaches...Nasty 2-3 inch long flying nasty
roaches!...Heard weird noises...turned on the light one night and the pie
pan catfood bowl was out of the kitchen and 1/2 way across the den
floor...the cockroaches looked up...some scattered...some stared me down and
a few just creeped away...Got so bad the kitties wouldn't go into the
kitchen after dark...Shiver.. when we opened the cabinets you stood beside
them to allow #$#$#$!!!***bugs to fly out...I'm surprised we didn't kill
ourselves bug bombing and spraying....Course things were made worse because
we lived next to a gator swamp(I kid you not!) and across the road from a
lake........ :-) Liz

> :-)Liz wrote:
> > Snipped from? Sherry?>>> At least
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> Do your Texas Cockroaches invade homes like that, by the hundreds??
> Geez-o-pete.
:-\)Liz - 18 Apr 2005 21:43 GMT
Have you ever noticed...after you bug bomb a area...the Da%! roaches come
out by the TONS!!! and die in the middle of the floor....Nasty !!! when you
walk on some of them as they make a popping noisy when
squished...EHHHHHHHH:-(  :-) Liz

> I think the exterminators call them "Water Bugs" so their guarantee won't
> cover them....Yes...cockroaches...Nasty 2-3 inch long flying nasty
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> > Do your Texas Cockroaches invade homes like that, by the hundreds??
> > Geez-o-pete.
Mary - 18 Apr 2005 23:05 GMT
> Have you ever noticed...after you bug bomb a area...the Da%! roaches come
> out by the TONS!!! and die in the middle of the floor....Nasty !!! when you
> walk on some of them as they make a popping noisy when
> squished...EHHHHHHHH:-(  :-) Liz

Back when I rented in big nasty cities, we would all get together and bomb
our apartments at the same time to keep the bugs from running from one
apartment
to another. We'd get all of our animals (cats in carriers and dogs on
leashes) and
have a cookout or a porch party. :)
Kreisleriana - 19 Apr 2005 13:42 GMT
>Have you ever noticed...after you bug bomb a area...the Da%! roaches come
>out by the TONS!!! and die in the middle of the floor....Nasty !!! when you
>walk on some of them as they make a popping noisy when
>squished...EHHHHHHHH:-(  :-) Liz

This is because of their inherent dramatic instinct.   They come
staggering out, coughing, and doing Hamlet's death scene.  Scientists
have invented special equipment that has deciphered the noise they
make;  it is actually

"O, I die, Horatio,
The potent poison quite o'ercrows my spirit"

Theresa
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Mary - 19 Apr 2005 17:07 GMT
> >Have you ever noticed...after you bug bomb a area...the Da%! roaches come
> >out by the TONS!!! and die in the middle of the floor....Nasty !!! when you
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> "O, I die, Horatio,
> The potent poison quite o'ercrows my spirit"

lol!
:-\)Liz - 19 Apr 2005 19:31 GMT
I Love It! :-)

> >Have you ever noticed...after you bug bomb a area...the Da%! roaches come
> >out by the TONS!!! and die in the middle of the floor....Nasty !!! when you
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
> My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Hopitus - 18 Apr 2005 21:44 GMT
Hopitus (confused): They have 'gator swamps in TX?

>I think the exterminators call them "Water Bugs" so their guarantee won't
> cover them....Yes...cockroaches...Nasty 2-3 inch long flying nasty
[quoted text clipped - 32 lines]
>> Do your Texas Cockroaches invade homes like that, by the hundreds??
>> Geez-o-pete.
:-\)Liz - 18 Apr 2005 21:57 GMT
This was a swampy area out by Lake Conroe area.(North of Houston)....You'd
be surprised what you find out in and near The Big Thicket area...Heck you
can find gators(though not real often) in the Red River and they've been
seen in Buffalo Bayou..For what it's worth ... the Animal Control removed
one from a Las Colinas area lake(which also includes Trinity River Greenbelt
Park) in Dallas/Ft.Forth.

> Hopitus (confused): They have 'gator swamps in TX?
>
[quoted text clipped - 34 lines]
> >> Do your Texas Cockroaches invade homes like that, by the hundreds??
> >> Geez-o-pete.
Mary - 18 Apr 2005 23:03 GMT
> This was a swampy area out by Lake Conroe area.(North of Houston)....You'd
> be surprised what you find out in and near The Big Thicket area...Heck you
> can find gators(though not real often) in the Red River and they've been
> seen in Buffalo Bayou..For what it's worth ... the Animal Control removed
> one from a Las Colinas area lake(which also includes Trinity River Greenbelt
> Park) in Dallas/Ft.Forth.

Brazos Bend, by chance?
Howard Berkowitz - 18 Apr 2005 22:49 GMT
> > This is wierd input but I personally would rather take on a hissing
> fowl of
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> started out as one of those cute colored Easter goslings. At least
> cockroaches don't leave bruises.

I've photographed swans, but from a safe distance.

When I was a Boy Scout, there were three choices for the First Class
test. One was marking trails, one was tracking a person by their signs,
and the last was silent movement. I chose the last, and, admittedly
without their consent, practiced with a flock of ducks at the
neighborhood pond.  

Yes, I'd carefully crawl, freeze when a feathered head turned in my
direction, and eventually, if I were skilled enough...goose a duck.

Ducks aren't particularly vicious, but are artists in expressing
indignation.
Kreisleriana - 19 Apr 2005 19:47 GMT
>> > This is wierd input but I personally would rather take on a hissing
>> fowl of
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>Ducks aren't particularly vicious, but are artists in expressing
>indignation.

See also: Duck, Donald.  ;)

Theresa
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My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Enfilade - 17 Apr 2005 23:06 GMT
> > it was funny to watch, but not funny if you were the cop
> > trying to catch "vicious turkeys" in a nonpopulated area.
>
> Once I was chased by a flock of turkeys when I was little. Very scary birds!

Know what I hate?  Swans.  I had a swan bite my foot through a
sneaker. The sneaker was fine, but my foot was bleeding inside the
shoe.

Creepy swan broke a little kid's arm a few years later, and got
re-homed behind two layers of wire fencing to prevent a future
incident.

--Fil
Kreisleriana - 18 Apr 2005 14:53 GMT
>> > it was funny to watch, but not funny if you were the cop
>> > trying to catch "vicious turkeys" in a nonpopulated area.
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>--Fil

What is up with swans, anyway?  I think they are the most aggro beings
on earth.

Theresa
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My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com
Karen - 17 Apr 2005 07:02 GMT
> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward turkey
> in the back yard. I have called everyone within a 5 mile radius and NO
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>
> Sherry

Oh my. She sure does not act wild. Hmm. If Bootsie just behaved you could
just,well, keep her. Sorry. No turkey knowledge here.
-L. - 17 Apr 2005 07:07 GMT
> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward turkey
> in the back yard.

<snip>

That's a wild turkey.  A female, from what I can see.  Turkeys are
stupid birds, so it figures that she is not afraid.  If she sticks
around you might want to build her a pen and sleeping hut  so that she
doesn't get shot.

-L.
jmcquown - 17 Apr 2005 08:38 GMT
>> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward
>> turkey in the back yard.
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>
> -L.

Yep, give her a little shed and corn-feed and water you'll have a funny
little turkey friend for a while.  She might even attract a mate and then
you'd have little chicks.  Might be fun.

Jill
Hazel Baker - 18 Apr 2005 16:35 GMT
Hi, Are you sure that the turkey is a female? I live in the middle of
the Poconos in Pa. and we have lots of wild turkeys..... The ladies seem
to be more drab and brown looking. This is just a guess as I am no
expert.....

 Thomas' Mom, Hazel

                                   
 
-L. - 17 Apr 2005 07:09 GMT
> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward turkey
> in the back yard.

<snip>

BTW, your bearded Iris are beautiful.  My Mom used to have those in her
yard in purple and yellow.  The purple smelled like grapes and the
yellow smelled like lemons.  Your pic brought back fond memories. ;*)

-L.
jmcquown - 17 Apr 2005 07:13 GMT
>> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward
>> turkey in the back yard.
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>
> -L.

I meant to mention the Irises, too!  Gorgeous flowers.

Jill
Helen Wheels - 17 Apr 2005 08:36 GMT
>>>We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward
>>>turkey in the back yard.
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>
> Jill

Here's a "me too" on the gorgeous irises. Can't grow'em here in Purrth,
it's just too hot.
Karen - 17 Apr 2005 12:27 GMT
>>> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward
>>> turkey in the back yard.
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>
> Jill

same here. I've never seen such TALL ones!
Mary - 17 Apr 2005 16:49 GMT
> >> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward
> >> turkey in the back yard.
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>
> I meant to mention the Irises, too!  Gorgeous flowers.

I grow big yellow ones that I have dug up and brought with me
from a very old house. They do smell like lemons.
Kreisleriana - 17 Apr 2005 14:46 GMT
>> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward
>turkey
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>
>-L.

Yes, stunning.  One of my favorite flowers.  They don't bloom up here
for another couple of weeks.

Theresa
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Annie Wxill - 17 Apr 2005 15:10 GMT
> BTW, your bearded Iris are beautiful.  My Mom used to have those in her
> yard in purple and yellow.  The purple smelled like grapes and the
> yellow smelled like lemons.  Your pic brought back fond memories. ;*)
>
> -L.
The irises caught my eye, too. They are gorgeous.
My mother also grew irises, and I think of her every time I see an iris. I
always thought the purple ones smelled like rootbeer.
Annie
-L. - 17 Apr 2005 17:00 GMT
> The irises caught my eye, too. They are gorgeous.
> My mother also grew irises, and I think of her every time I see an iris. I
> always thought the purple ones smelled like rootbeer.
> Annie

Hummm....maybe you are right on the rootbeer - it was a long time
ago....  Nothing prettier than a bearded iris, IMO.  It's too wet here
for them.

It's funny how some memories stick in your head forever, and how you
associate some things with loved ones.  Some of the things I associate
with my Mom aren't what I would have thought, prior to her passing.

-L.
jmcquown - 17 Apr 2005 17:25 GMT
>> The irises caught my eye, too. They are gorgeous.
>> My mother also grew irises, and I think of her every time I see an
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>
> -L.

So true!  I associate Snap Dragons with my paternal grandmother.  She had
them growing in a small plot outside her kitchen door.  She taught me to
make them "talk" by putting my fingers under the petals.  Gosh, that was a
long time ago...

Jill
mlbriggs - 17 Apr 2005 17:36 GMT
>>> The irises caught my eye, too. They are gorgeous. My mother also grew
>>> irises, and I think of her every time I see an iris. I always thought
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>
> Jill

My father showed me how to open their little mouths.  I was about five at
the time (100 years ago) and he told me that was the ways bees got the
honey from the flower.  MLB
Kreisleriana - 17 Apr 2005 17:46 GMT
>>> The irises caught my eye, too. They are gorgeous.
>>> My mother also grew irises, and I think of her every time I see an
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>
>Jill

I'm crazy about snapdragons.  They are wonderful, tough flowers, and
so many beautiful colors.  Every Mother's Day, I plant my mother's
garden, and I always put in snaps, dahlias and pansies.

Theresa
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-L. - 17 Apr 2005 23:16 GMT
> I'm crazy about snapdragons.  They are wonderful, tough flowers, and
> so many beautiful colors.  Every Mother's Day, I plant my mother's
> garden, and I always put in snaps, dahlias and pansies.

> Theresa
> Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
> My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com

Ah - some of my favorite flowers!  I had some awesome Dahlias when I
lived in IN and NC.  Another thing I love - and always grew as a kid -
are Zinnias. :)

-L.
Yowie - 18 Apr 2005 01:30 GMT
> >>> The irises caught my eye, too. They are gorgeous.
> >>> My mother also grew irises, and I think of her every time I see an
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> so many beautiful colors.  Every Mother's Day, I plant my mother's
> garden, and I always put in snaps, dahlias and pansies.

I love pansies and petunias. I always thin pansies have little smiling
faces.

And I cannot *stand* the smell of marigolds! My gnradmother, however, just
loved them. And event hough I can't stand the smell, I still look at them
fondly (I just don't inhale)

Yowie
sriddles@aol.com - 18 Apr 2005 03:39 GMT
> I love pansies and petunias. I always thin pansies have little smiling
> faces.
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>
> Yowie

Marigolds do stink. There's an old farmer's remedy I've always heard,
that if you plant marigolds between your rows of squash, the squash
bugs will stay off the vines. Probably because of the smell!!

I love pansies too, but they poop out here after April because of the
heat. Petunias, snapdragons, verbenia, balloon flowers; impatients are
another one of my favorites. We sowed half the garden in wildflower
seed this year; Purple coneflower, Texas bluebonnets, paintbrushes,
winecups, butterfly weed, primrose, lots of larkspur, black-eyed
Susans, Indian blanket daisies. Bachelor buttons. Cosmos.   If we get a
good stand I'll take a picture and post it this summer. Zinnias are
such fun, too, because you just can't mess them up; they'll grow no
matter what you do here.

Sherry
Hopitus - 18 Apr 2005 05:19 GMT
When I was in s.FL, had always heard that lots of marigolds would keep
roaches away - yeah, they do stink but are cheerful, pretty blooms so I
always had lots planted around the front porch there. Never did figure out
the roach-deterrent factor.

>> I love pansies and petunias. I always thin pansies have little
> smiling
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>
> Sherry
CATherine - 19 Apr 2005 04:23 GMT
>When I was in s.FL, had always heard that lots of marigolds would keep
>roaches away - yeah, they do stink but are cheerful, pretty blooms so I
>always had lots planted around the front porch there. Never did figure out
>the roach-deterrent factor.

They have pyrethrin in their chemistry like mums do. That is a bug
deterrent. You can also buy repellent with pyrethrin in it. It is much
safer and better smelling than Raid.

--
CATherine
Mary - 18 Apr 2005 06:06 GMT
> > I love pansies and petunias. I always thin pansies have little
> smiling
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> that if you plant marigolds between your rows of squash, the squash
> bugs will stay off the vines. Probably because of the smell!!

I love the peppery scent of marigolds!

> I love pansies too, but they poop out here after April because of the
> heat.

They are still blooming in December here.
mlbriggs - 18 Apr 2005 17:40 GMT
>> >>> The irises caught my eye, too. They are gorgeous. My mother also
>> >>> grew irises, and I think of her every time I see an iris. I always
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>
> Yowie

IMHO pansies have kitten faces.   Marigolds, I am told, keep insects out
of the garden.  MLB
Hopitus - 18 Apr 2005 18:43 GMT
Pansies are so pretty....they don't do well in s.FL as its
far too hot for them there......but since moving here, I see
them all over! I saw something pretty, 2-tone like pansies, in my son's yard
but when I asked DIL about the "pansy that wasn't fuzzy" she laughed and
told me that
what was in that corner of yard was something called "primrose". Also, they
have tulips out there, too. Friend
of family saw me looking @ them, peering down through
some bushes, and asked what I was looking @...I told her I was looking @
what DIL said was a tulip but it looked like it had "blown up"....friend
informed me that
the tulips I had only seen in pics my whole life (bulb flowers don't grow
well in s.FL either) were not fully bloomed and that the yard tulip had only
just bloomed.
I didn't believe her till next day I went to Costco and saw
bouquets galore w/the same "blown-up-looking" tulips of
many colors there.....LOL. No wonder I didn't recognize the thing as a tulip
in the yard.

>>> >>> The irises caught my eye, too. They are gorgeous. My mother also
>>> >>> grew irises, and I think of her every time I see an iris. I always
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> IMHO pansies have kitten faces.   Marigolds, I am told, keep insects out
> of the garden.  MLB
:-\)Liz - 18 Apr 2005 19:25 GMT
I love Climbing Sweet Peas...their smell is great! The colors are
wow....Only thing...they like cool climates...not much of that here in Texas
but they grow great in cooler regions...

> Pansies are so pretty....they don't do well in s.FL as its
> far too hot for them there......but since moving here, I see
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> > IMHO pansies have kitten faces.   Marigolds, I am told, keep insects out
> > of the garden.  MLB
Marina - 17 Apr 2005 10:45 GMT
> I really don't know what to do with the poor thing. If anyone here
> knows anything about wild turkeys, and can ID this one as one, please
> let me know.

Sorry, Sherry, but ROFL! Not only are you a cat magnet, but every other
stray waif will eventually find its way to your house. LOL! Why not just
let it hang out in your yard?

Nikki has been known to stalk pheasants. I try to ask her what she
thinks she will do to them if she got close enough, but she ignores me
and just keep chattering and/or creeping towards them with her bum
twitching.

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Annie Wxill - 17 Apr 2005 15:38 GMT
...> Nikki has been known to stalk pheasants. I try to ask her what she
> thinks she will do to them if she got close enough, but she ignores me and
> just keep chattering and/or creeping towards them with her bum twitching.
> Marina, Frank, Nikki, and introducing: Mere!

Some years back we lived on a couple of acres surrounded by a lot of land.
One of cats, Josh, prided himself on being quite the hunter, as well as
defender of the territory.  He was a huge cat, 22 pounds (9.9 kg), and I saw
him chase the neighbor's Labrador retriever back home one day.
Josh was perfectly capable of catching a pheasant, leaving behind a pile of
feathers and feet and a beak, and come inside, insisting he was starving and
should be fed immediately.  In the spring he would sit under the trees, just
waiting for a baby bird to drop into his mouth.  Ugh!
Anyway, one day a flock of strange looking birds appeared in our pasture.
They were bigger than a pheasant, but smaller than a turkey.  They had tiny
heads compared to their bodies.  We later determined that the must have been
guinea hens.
Josh spotted this flock of delectable looking pea-brained birds, and he was
all aquiver at the prospect of a meal.
He selected his target and inched his way forward with his belly close to
the ground.  Little by little he approached, concentrating on his target.
Little by little, the seemingly unsuspecting birds moved into a circle.
Too late, Josh looked around and realized he was surrounded.
The birds moved as one, converging on the center of the circle.
Josh fled, with the flock in hot pursuit.
Such a comeuppance it was.
But, after proving their point, the birds stopped chasing Josh and resumed
their foraging in the pasture.
Josh gave himself a good grooming with the "I meant to do that" look and
settled for a nap in a sunny spot.
The birds stuck around for a few days and then moved on.

Annie
CatNipped - 17 Apr 2005 17:09 GMT
> ...> Nikki has been known to stalk pheasants. I try to ask her what she
> > thinks she will do to them if she got close enough, but she ignores me and
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>
> Annie

ROTFLMAOWTIME!  Oh my - *where* are the camcorders when we need them!???

Hugs,

CatNipped
O J - 17 Apr 2005 11:16 GMT
Sherry wrote:

>.........................................................
>I really don't know what to do with the poor thing. If anyone here
>knows anything about wild turkeys, and can ID this one as one, please
>let me know.

What you have is a wild female turkey.  Your cat will not harm it,
although the reverse cannot be guaranteed.  If it were mine, I'd check
local laws on shooting animals that disturb your garden and then
harvest the bird.  If you want to leave it alone, it should give you
no trouble and will probably start to act normally when turkey mating
season starts.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Kreisleriana - 17 Apr 2005 14:13 GMT
>We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward turkey
>in the back yard. I have called everyone within a 5 mile radius and NO
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>She sits in the window, chattering, and the turkey just seems a little
>nonplussed by that.

Mommy, a GIANT BIRDIE!!!!!!!

>I really don't know what to do with the poor thing. If anyone here
>knows anything about wild turkeys, and can ID this one as one, please
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>
>http://members.aol.com/jjrich0523/turkey.jpg

WOW.  

I can't even begin to tell you what to do, but WOW.  Jeez LOUISE.

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John F. Eldredge - 18 Apr 2005 03:23 GMT
>>We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward turkey
>>in the back yard. I have called everyone within a 5 mile radius and NO
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>
>I can't even begin to tell you what to do, but WOW.  Jeez LOUISE.

One of my memories from my teenage years was seeing six baby quail
walking in line through our yard early one morning.  They were marked
like adults, but only about half-sized.  There wasn't any sign of
their mother, so something must have happened to her.  We were living
in a small town, about half a mile from the nearest semi-wild area (an
undeveloped flood-plain meadow), but they were walking _towards_ this
meadow, not away from it.  I never saw this batch of baby quail again,
and don't know what became of them.

When my family moved back to Nashville in 1976, we rented a house
adjoining a proposed Interstate highway route.  Houses had already
been cleared from the land, but legal battles blocked construction of
the highway for several years.  So, there was a curving corridor of
trees, bushes, and grass perhaps 300 feet wide.  We regularly saw and
heard quail there, only three miles from the center of the city.
Unfortunately, once the highway was finally built, the traffic noise
scared off the quail.

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mlbriggs - 18 Apr 2005 17:38 GMT
>>>We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward turkey
>>>in the back yard. I have called everyone within a 5 mile radius and NO
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> there, only three miles from the center of the city. Unfortunately, once
> the highway was finally built, the traffic noise scared off the quail.

We have lots of quail in this condo area.  Last year and the year before a
quail made a nest and had her chicks in my rain drain over the back patio.
Unfortunately, both years, a couple of fledging dropped out of the nest
and were caught by TuTu  On a couple of occasions, half grown birds got
in the house  and I had to call my son to come and trap them.  A wild
time was had by all.  MLB
sriddles@aol.com - 18 Apr 2005 17:48 GMT
> We have lots of quail in this condo area.  Last year and the year before a
> quail made a nest and had her chicks in my rain drain over the back patio.
>  Unfortunately, both years, a couple of fledging dropped out of the nest
>  and were caught by TuTu  On a couple of occasions, half grown birds got
>  in the house  and I had to call my son to come and trap them.  A wild
>  time was had by all.  MLB

I think quail are pretty little birds. I"ve seen them around some
overgrown wild blackberry bushes out in the pasture, they must live in
them. I bought some "chicken scratch" this morning to throw out for the
turkeys, I thought I might throw some out by those bushes too.

Sherry
Dan M - 17 Apr 2005 14:39 GMT
> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward turkey
> in the back yard. I have called everyone within a 5 mile radius and NO
> ONE has turkeys. I cannot imagine where she came from.

I'll pass the photos on to my brother - he raises turkeys, and
specializes in the non-standard breeds. He might also have suggestions
on what to do with it.

While turkeys don't have teeth, the spurs on their legs can inflict some
damage if they get scared.

Dan
mlbriggs - 17 Apr 2005 14:59 GMT
On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 22:05:41 -0700, sriddles wrote:

> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward turkey in
> the back yard. I have called everyone within a 5 mile radius and NO ONE
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>
> Sherry

In the phone book under local government, do you have a Fish and Game
department?
223rem - 17 Apr 2005 15:56 GMT
> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward turkey
> in the back yard. I have called everyone within a 5 mile radius and NO
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> nonplussed by that.
> I really don't know what to do with the poor thing.

There are so many things you could do. Turkey soup, pie, baked
turkey, etc.
Mary - 17 Apr 2005 16:53 GMT
> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward turkey
> in the back yard. I have called everyone within a 5 mile radius and NO
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>
> Sherry

She looks very sweet.
CatNipped - 17 Apr 2005 16:55 GMT
> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward turkey
> in the back yard. I have called everyone within a 5 mile radius and NO
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>
> Sherry

I can give you a recipe for roast turkey!  ;>

Hugs,

CatNipped
Hopitus - 17 Apr 2005 18:45 GMT
Hee hee; several posters' minds run like mine...I hate birds w/exception of
owls of all varieties. I love owls; since that's not what you got, fatten it
up and wait for
Turkey Day in Nov. Consider it a gift from Above....

>> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward turkey
>> in the back yard. I have called everyone within a 5 mile radius and NO
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>
> CatNipped
Kreisleriana - 17 Apr 2005 18:50 GMT
>Hee hee; several posters' minds run like mine...I hate birds w/exception of
>owls of all varieties. I love owls

I think owls are adorable.  We really have some here in NYC-- we have
a lot of wildlife you would never expect.  Barn, screech and great
horned owls.

Theresa
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jmcquown - 17 Apr 2005 19:53 GMT
>> Hee hee; several posters' minds run like mine...I hate birds
>> w/exception of owls of all varieties. I love owls
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>
> Theresa

Last quarter's issue of Birds & Blooms featured tiny little saw-whet owls -
they are described as "diminuative" and indeed they are about the size of my
lovebird.

Jill
Kreisleriana - 17 Apr 2005 20:55 GMT
>>> Hee hee; several posters' minds run like mine...I hate birds
>>> w/exception of owls of all varieties. I love owls
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>
>Jill

Oh, those *are* cute!  They're about the size (and shape) of a soda
can. ;)

-

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Hopitus - 17 Apr 2005 21:18 GMT
Long ago (early 70's) I worked @ a new hospital in a
suburb of Hollywood, FL, which stood alone in a large
cow pasture-like area. From my window I saw the cows
follow their bell-wearing leader out to graze every am, and every evening
they all returned to go "home" past my
window again.
Sometimes my then-family would come to pick me up @
quitting time and our kids would play in this field.while
waiting for my appearance. All over the place were little holes in the
ground wherein lived families of "ground" owls, who would scuttle out
protective of their young inside the holes when my kids walked nearby.
You talk about "cute"! But I never could figure out how they kept from being
roadkill when the cow herds clomped on by twice a day (not to mention
wherever they went to graze all day).......

>>>> Hee hee; several posters' minds run like mine...I hate birds
>>>> w/exception of owls of all varieties. I love owls
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> Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh
> My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com 
CatNipped - 17 Apr 2005 18:54 GMT
> Hee hee; several posters' minds run like mine...I hate birds w/exception of
> owls of all varieties. I love owls; since that's not what you got, fatten it
> up and wait for
> Turkey Day in Nov. Consider it a gift from Above....

I love owls too and all other birds of prey.  But poultry - I love to
*eat*!!  ;>

Hugs,

CatNipped

> >> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward turkey
> >> in the back yard. I have called everyone within a 5 mile radius and NO
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> >
> > CatNipped
CATherine - 17 Apr 2005 21:13 GMT
>We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward turkey
>in the back yard. I have called everyone within a 5 mile radius and NO
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>
>Sherry

The village near where I live has a flock of wild turkeys that move
around town eating bugs and whatnot. Some of the people put out corn
for them, especially in the winter. One time I counted 60 in the
flock! They are half tame. The local dogs and cats don't mess with
them. They sleep in the trees in the creek bed. Turkeys are stupid.
But the beaks and spurs can be dangerous. You can put a single wire
and they are too stupid to go under it if it is the right heigth. The
same village also has quail and chukkers and bunnyrabbits running
around half tame. BTW, you have several months to cornfeed the turkey
and get her nice and fat and juicy and tender. ;->

--
CATherine
dopekitty - 17 Apr 2005 21:41 GMT
> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward turkey
> in the back yard. I have called everyone within a 5 mile radius and NO
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>
> Sherry

Hubby says it is a wild turkey, and his advice is feed it, fatten it up
and have it for thanksgiving next year

Kristy
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 17 Apr 2005 21:46 GMT
Don't domestic turkeys usually have white feathers?   She
looks like the genuine article to me, but I didn't think
there WERE wild turkeys around much, any more.

> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward turkey
> in the back yard. I have called everyone within a 5 mile radius and NO
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>
> Sherry
Magic Mood Jeep© - 17 Apr 2005 22:19 GMT
> Don't domestic turkeys usually have white feathers?   She
> looks like the genuine article to me, but I didn't think
> there WERE wild turkeys around much, any more.

They are all over the place around here.  In Feb., DH & I were driving some
of the 'back' roads around Lake Monroe (lake near Bloomington) and we saw at
least 3 different flocks in they cow pastures and not-yet-plowed
corn/soybean fields, 50 or more per flock.  Saw one, a male, near the
highway once, in full display, then some idjit honked his horn and it flew
off into the woods nearby.

>> We got up this morning and it seems we have a homeless, wayward
>> turkey in the back yard. I have called everyone within a 5 mile
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>>
>> Sherry
Jo Firey - 17 Apr 2005 23:47 GMT
>> Don't domestic turkeys usually have white feathers?   She
>> looks like the genuine article to me, but I didn't think
>> there WERE wild turkeys around much, any more.

They aren't even endangered.  There are tons of them in the foothills around
here.  Northern California.

Jo
Mary - 17 Apr 2005 22:34 GMT
> Don't domestic turkeys usually have white feathers?   She
> looks like the genuine article to me, but I didn't think
> there WERE wild turkeys around much, any more.

This is a wild turkey, for certain.
John F. Eldredge - 17 Apr 2005 23:48 GMT
>> Don't domestic turkeys usually have white feathers?   She
>> looks like the genuine article to me, but I didn't think
>> there WERE wild turkeys around much, any more.
>
>This is a wild turkey, for certain.

Given how tame this one apparently is, someone may have been feeding
it for a while.

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Mary - 18 Apr 2005 00:36 GMT
> >> Don't domestic turkeys usually have white feathers?   She
> >> looks like the genuine article to me, but I didn't think
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> Given how tame this one apparently is, someone may have been feeding
> it for a while.

Oh, certainly. I just meant it really LOOKS like a wild turkey.
John F. Eldredge - 18 Apr 2005 01:11 GMT
>> >> Don't domestic turkeys usually have white feathers?   She
>> >> looks like the genuine article to me, but I didn't think
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>
>Oh, certainly. I just meant it really LOOKS like a wild turkey.

Well, I suspect that it is a wild turkey (in terms of species) that
has become semi-tamed by someone feeding it.  It happens with other
species, so why not with turkeys?

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Mary - 18 Apr 2005 01:33 GMT
> >> >> Don't domestic turkeys usually have white feathers?   She
> >> >> looks like the genuine article to me, but I didn't think
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> has become semi-tamed by someone feeding it.  It happens with other
> species, so why not with turkeys?

Makes sense!
:-\)Liz - 18 Apr 2005 01:12 GMT
Looks like the wild turkeys we have near us (Dallas/Collin County
area)...The ones we have up at the cabin in New Mexico are HUGE!!!! We call
them Valasaturkeys..The males stand about 4 ft tall and have spurs....and
become rather nasty during mating season....:-) Liz

> > Don't domestic turkeys usually have white feathers?   She
> > looks like the genuine article to me, but I didn't think
> > there WERE wild turkeys around much, any more.
>
> This is a wild turkey, for certain.
William Hamblen - 18 Apr 2005 00:59 GMT
> Don't domestic turkeys usually have white feathers?   She
> looks like the genuine article to me, but I didn't think
> there WERE wild turkeys around much, any more.

Like wild deer, wild turkeys are making a comeback.  Last Fall I needed
to stop on the highway outside a small country town to let a flock cross
the road.  About ten years ago a wild turkey spent a spring day wandering
around the office park where I worked.  Domesticated bronze turkeys are
colored like the wild breed.  The domestic breed is pretty chunky compared
to the wild breed.  Wild turkeys are fairly streamlined and can fly.
Tanada - 18 Apr 2005 01:09 GMT
> Don't domestic turkeys usually have white feathers?   She looks like the
> genuine article to me, but I didn't think there WERE wild turkeys around
> much, any more.

We saw them all the time on the roads between Placerville and Diamond
Springs California when we lived up there.  We've also seen them in the
foot hills here in North Carolina, and military personnel used to see
them at Fort Campbell back in the 80s when we were stationed there.  I
understand that the wild version is wilier and meaner than the domestic
ones are.  The domestic version is mean enough.  I got chased by them
when we were visiting relatives when I was a kid.

The geese here are mean enough, they don't need to learn from turkeys.
I was driving through the neighborhood last week and saw two white geese
challenge a woman who was trying to drive into her drive way.  She eased
in at 1 mph while the gander hissed and attacked the tires on her van.
Finally, she pulled up to the garage.  She waited patiently while he
went back to eating grass with the missis, then quietly slid out of her
car.  I drove past, once again glad that we didn't buy a house by the lake.

Pam S.
-L. - 18 Apr 2005 01:16 GMT
> Don't domestic turkeys usually have white feathers?

Those bred for the meat industry do.

> She
> looks like the genuine article to me, but I didn't think
> there WERE wild turkeys around much, any more.

Depends on where you live.  There are many different subspecies.  In
the N. Midwest and NE deciduous forests, they are abundant.

-L.
Pat - 18 Apr 2005 01:55 GMT
That sure is a wild bird. We have tons of them around here. They can be
tamed, too.

Once when I lived in a rural spot in Arkansas I was driving to town on a
paved two-lane highway that sees little traffic outside of rush hours, and
there was a turkey sitting in the road. I stopped, and honked the horn
hoping it would move off, but the turkey stayed put.

I pulled over to the roadside and got out of the car and tried to chase the
turkey away, and it still did not move. I thought, perhaps it has been
injured and can't move. So I walked over and reached down and petted it, and
then picked it right up in my arms, went to the car, set it on the front
seat beside me and tried to examine it for injury, and saw nothing that
looked like any kind of damage.

Then I again picked up the turkey and carried it to the wooded area and set
it down behind the fence, and it ran off into the woods.

I figured it must have been someone's pet on walkabout. What an experience!
sriddles@aol.com - 18 Apr 2005 03:30 GMT
Thanks, all for the replies. I think John is right, it is a wild turkey
that someone has fed. I think this because she went nuts when she saw
DH carrying water to the bees in a bucket, and chased the bucket.
But later in the a.m. a Tom turkey and another hen showed up. She ran
out in the pasture where they were and they all 3 ran off. Haven't seen
them since. I found out that Turkey season just opened here. So I
figure they have been flushed by hunters from wherever they usually
hang out.
I hope they come back around now and then. I think I'll buy some
chicken feed tomorrow just in case.
Thanks also for the compliments on the irises. They must be pretty easy
to grow. A friend gave me those when she thinned hers, and I just stuck
them against that old shed and some more on the south side of the
house, yellow ones and purple ones. They all need to thinned too. If
anybody wants a start of them, I bet I could mail the rizomes (sp?)
just fine when we get around to thinning them.

Sherry