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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / April 2005Hunting purrs needed
There's a big snapping turtle in the pond where Abelard plays with frogs. I want to scoop it up with a big flat shovel and relocate it, so there's no chance of an accident, but it hasn't come out of the water long enough yet. This turtle's head is almost as big as a cat's head.... > There's a big snapping turtle in the pond where Abelard plays with > frogs. I want to scoop it up with a big flat shovel and relocate it, > so there's no chance of an accident, but it hasn't come out of the > water long enough yet. This turtle's head is almost as big as a cat's > head.... Good luck (and to where would you relocate it?). Jill (and to where would you relocate it?). The nearby creek, probably. >There's a big snapping turtle in the pond where Abelard plays with frogs. I >want to scoop it up with a big flat shovel and relocate it, so there's no >chance of an accident, but it hasn't come out of the water long enough yet. >This turtle's head is almost as big as a cat's head.... LOL! It's always something in your neighborhood. It is true that snapping turtles are dangerous. They're awfully aggressive towards anything that moves, and when they fight each other, it's fatal - the one that loses is the one that keeps its head. Around here, rangers will shoot the large ones. >> There's a big snapping turtle in the pond where Abelard plays with >> frogs. I want to scoop it up with a big flat shovel and relocate it, [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > one that loses is the one that keeps its head. Around here, rangers > will shoot the large ones. Do I always have to mention cooking? Yep :) My father told me when he was a boy he and his dad would catch snapping turtles in the creek near their house and make turtle soup. Now, I happen to *love* turtle soup but I don't think they use home-caught snapping turtles to make it. Jill > Around here, rangers will shoot the large ones. Around here, these are an endangered species. > There's a big snapping turtle in the pond where Abelard plays with frogs. > I want to scoop it up with a big flat shovel and relocate it, so there's > no chance of an accident, but it hasn't come out of the water long enough > yet. This turtle's head is almost as big as a cat's head.... Perhaps you could rent or borrow a large fishing net. Pool supply companies might have them. MLB > Perhaps you could rent or borrow a large fishing net. Pool supply > companies might have them. No such place within at least an hour's drive of me, and possibly not within 200 miles. I have the big flat shovel and an empty barrel ready, so, with you guys purring for the turtle to show itself to me.... > There's a big snapping turtle in the pond where Abelard plays with frogs. > I > want to scoop it up with a big flat shovel and relocate it, so there's no > chance of an accident, but it hasn't come out of the water long enough > yet. > This turtle's head is almost as big as a cat's head.... Lots of luck catching it, but please be very careful. Promise? You need your fingers. Tweed > Lots of luck catching it, but please be very careful. Promise? You need > your fingers. The shovel handle is much longer than my fingers :) Thanks for your concern. >> Lots of luck catching it, but please be very careful. Promise? You need >> your fingers. > > The shovel handle is much longer than my fingers :) <g> well I know that! But isn't there some point when he will have to come off the shovel so you can relocate him? and have to handle him in some way? That's when I am asking you to be soooo careful. I know you know what you are doing, but.. I guess I worry too much. I had a red-eared terrapin and I grew him until he was about a foot round. His bite was something to be reckoned with, so I can't even imagine what a snapping turtle with a head as big as a cat's might do. Something serious, anyway. OMG, I am *so* glad I don't live in America.. We have one poisonous snake in the UK. I've seen one twice in my life. Our largest mammal is the red deer. As long as you keep away from them in the rutting season, they aren't dangerous. We have no lions or bears. Wolves died out here in the late 17th century (correct me if I'm wrong.) My chicken houses are all closed up now for the night, against foxes or badgers. The huts definitely would not stand up to an attack from a bear or mountain lion. I guess I will choose to live where I do, in the UK./ USA sounds too scary. Tweed > > The shovel handle is much longer than my fingers :) > isn't there some point when he will have to come > off the shovel so you can relocate him? That involves merely tilting the shovel up so the turtle gently falls off. > I guess I worry too much. Way too much! > My chicken houses are all closed up now for the night, against foxes or > badgers. Badgers are one of the fiercest critters on earth! >>> The shovel handle is much longer than my fingers :) > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Badgers are one of the fiercest critters on earth! Badgers in america are a different species to the ones in England, ours are not quite as fierce, though they can be nasty when they want too.  SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat. >>> Lots of luck catching it, but please be very careful. Promise? >>> You need your fingers. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Tweed And thank you (not you personally) very much for sending my ancestors here to the vast wilderness that is now the United States of America :) You'd probably love a visit. I know I can't wait to see England, Scotland and Wales. Jill >>> Lots of luck catching it, but please be very careful. Promise? You >>> need your fingers. [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > > Tweed Wild animals are in the country -- wild people are in the cities. Where are the "normal" people? Home playing with their cats and computers! Actually my area, near Boston MA, is having a coyote problem. A local, off duty police officer had to rescue his daughter. Both of them were bitten and are undergoing a course of rabies shots. Suz& her very indoors Spicey. >>> Lots of luck catching it, but please be very careful. Promise? >>> You need your fingers. [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Tweed I think it's sad that so much of our wildlife has been wiped out by humans. Until a few hundred years ago, we had wolves, bears, lynx and beavers. Personally I'd like to see them reintroduced. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat. Purrs and best wishes, SignaturePolonca & Soncek > There's a big snapping turtle in the pond where Abelard plays with frogs. I > want to scoop it up with a big flat shovel and relocate it, so there's no > chance of an accident, but it hasn't come out of the water long enough yet. > This turtle's head is almost as big as a cat's head.... If you're not in a huge hurry maybe you could get it used to you giving it treats. That might give you an edge in catching it. Or...don't laugh but this is the way that crocodile guy caught one he had to move... Poke a hole in the bottom of the barrel and lay it on it's side right beside the pond; put a string through the hole with a big piece of real smelly "bait" on the open end. Now, you are at the bottom end of the barrel...acting unobtrusive...holding the other end of the string. As the turtle comes out after the dead fish or whatever, pull it slowly into the barrel ideally with the turtle following. Good luck with this...it's not going to be easy any way you do it! PatM > If you're not in a huge hurry maybe you could get it used to you giving > it treats. That might give you an edge in catching it. Or...don't [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > following. Good luck with this...it's not going to be easy any way you > do it! PatM These are great ideas, PatM! The problem though is that I haven't been able to find the turtle! Earier today, my neighbor saw it on the road near my house and called me shortly after to tell me where to look, but by the time I got out to the same spot, it was gone. >> If you're not in a huge hurry maybe you could get it used to you >> giving it treats. That might give you an edge in catching it. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > road near my house and called me shortly after to tell me where to > look, but by the time I got out to the same spot, it was gone. Must be a fast turtle! Jill > Must be a fast turtle! They can be fast at times. In this case the call came after she had walked home, and then I had to walk quite a distance down the road to find the spot where the turtle had been sighted. I looked 50' or so to each side of the spot, and still didn't find it. > There's a big snapping turtle in the pond where Abelard plays with frogs. I > want to scoop it up with a big flat shovel and relocate it, so there's no > chance of an accident, but it hasn't come out of the water long enough yet. > This turtle's head is almost as big as a cat's head.... Snapping turtles don't like running water - so if you put her in the creek she is likely to return to the pond. They only travel during mating season and if she just recently showed up, it is likely that she came to the pond to lay eggs. She's unlikely to hurt the cat - the are generally bottom feeders - they lay at the bottom and sit in waiting for prey. If you feel you must relocate her, take her to a different pond. They can also snap their heads almost all the way back to their tails, so be careful about trying to relocate her. They generally will flip their head up and back toward their tails, instead of around - the neck is extremely long. A snapper with a head as big as a cat's head is likely to weigh 70 pounds or more. It can easily take your finger and part of your hand off, too. If it were me, I'd leave it alone and relocate the cat. Just FWIW... -L. > If it were me, I'd leave it alone and relocate the cat. Not sure what you mean by relocate the cat... but... Abelard STAYS! > > If it were me, I'd leave it alone and relocate the cat. > > Not sure what you mean by relocate the cat... but... Abelard STAYS! What I meant is keep him from frequenting the pond. Of course he STAYS! :) -L. > What I meant is keep him from frequenting the pond. If I knew how to make him stay away from the pond, I wouldn't do it. He absolutely adores chasing those little frogs. And the turtle only goes in there once in a while, the rest of the time it is on land. So it could meet up with any of the cats, anytime, anywhere they go! >> What I meant is keep him from frequenting the pond. > >If I knew how to make him stay away from the pond, I wouldn't do it. He >absolutely adores chasing those little frogs. And the turtle only goes in >there once in a while, the rest of the time it is on land. So it could meet >up with any of the cats, anytime, anywhere they go! Headless cats aren't very adorable chasing frogs.....someone gives you some advice and you say "I wouldn't do it if I could" If you wouldn't mind some more advice, if you do catch that turtle take him way far away......I am talking miles or he will probably end up right back there again..... Brad > Headless cats aren't very adorable chasing frogs.....someone gives you > some advice and you say "I wouldn't do it if I could" If you wouldn't [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Brad Personally, I have some major problems with disturbing an ecosystem to placate domestic animals. But I am an environmental biologist by degree... -L. >> Headless cats aren't very adorable chasing frogs.....someone gives >you [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > >-L. Oh my Gawd......I bet you have major problems with a lot of things......lol......its a frickin turtle it won't send us out of orbit or anything like that.... Brad LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL-PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, SHOUTING... " HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!" > Oh my Gawd......I bet you have major problems with a lot of > things......lol......its a frickin turtle it won't send us out of > orbit or anything like that.... > > Brad Nope. Snapping turtles are many times tertiary carnivores in pond ecosystems - especially one that large. Even taking one out can have a huge impact on a thriving ecosystem. -L. >> Oh my Gawd......I bet you have major problems with a lot of >> things......lol......its a frickin turtle it won't send us out of [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >-L. OK I got it all except tertiary but is it time for us to start partying hard ......is the end near..??...the topic was started off with moving the turtle I just said to move him far away especially if there are no ponds nearby is what it sounded like....... Brad LIFE'S JOURNEY IS NOT TO ARRIVE AT THE GRAVE SAFELY IN A WELL-PRESERVED BODY, BUT RATHER TO SKID IN SIDEWAYS, TOTALLY WORN OUT, SHOUTING... " HOLY @#$%... WHAT A RIDE!" |
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