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Stormin Mormon - 09 Apr 2005 15:27 GMT There is an old expression that there are two sides to every story.
A couple weeks ago, I drove about an hour and a half to interview a cat. The interview (and my dinner conversation with Liz and Louie) were not as ideal as I'd wished.
I've since emailed Liz a couple of times, but not heard back. I used postal mail to write two identical letters (Liz and Louie) to ask where they wanted to go with this matter. I've not heard back from either of them.
Just for curiosity, I signed onto the RPCA message board, and see if Liz has been posting. Yes, and only slightly to my surprise she's mentioned me several times.
What did come as a surprise is that much of what she's written has been remarkably different than what I remember of the cat interview, and of my friendship with her and Louie.
Seeing as how she's written extensively and publically, I'm going to take a couple moments (over a period of a couple days) and share with the group what I remember of the matters.
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Karen - 09 Apr 2005 15:32 GMT > There is an old expression that there are two sides to every story. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > couple moments (over a period of a couple days) and share with the group > what I remember of the matters. It really doesn't matter. It is your posts that made it clear that a cat is not the pet for you. Some people aren't cat people. That's really all that matters. There are other pets that fit what you want in a pet.
Mary - 09 Apr 2005 19:14 GMT > There is an old expression that there are two sides to every story. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > couple moments (over a period of a couple days) and share with the group > what I remember of the matters. Norman! I wondered what had happened to you.
Stormin Mormon - 10 Apr 2005 02:11 GMT It's been an interesting couple weeks. I'm glad to be back, working toward understanding.
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Norman! I wondered what had happened to you.
Yowie - 09 Apr 2005 22:51 GMT > There is an old expression that there are two sides to every story. > [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > couple moments (over a period of a couple days) and share with the group > what I remember of the matters. Thats fine, and I'll be happy to read it.
All I ask of you (and Liz and Louie if he posts here) is not to use RPCA as your personal debating arena.
RPCA is big enough to hold different viewpoints, and indeed, maintain friendships wtih people who have different opinions on things. Please let it stay that way.
Yowie
jmcquown - 09 Apr 2005 23:13 GMT >> There is an old expression that there are two sides to every story. >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Yowie Thank you, Yowie! This isn't the place to be debating against each other. I'm happy to see all of them post. What they did or did not discuss over dinner really doesn't involve us (nor should it).
Jill
Stormin Mormon - 10 Apr 2005 02:11 GMT I'm OK with that. My goal at present is twofold: 1) present the other side of the story 2) Work out the misunderstandings
I've offered to phone, mail, email, etc. So if they are agreeable, we should go to private email promptly.
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Thats fine, and I'll be happy to read it.
All I ask of you (and Liz and Louie if he posts here) is not to use RPCA as your personal debating arena.
RPCA is big enough to hold different viewpoints, and indeed, maintain friendships wtih people who have different opinions on things. Please let it stay that way.
Yowie
Singh - 10 Apr 2005 06:58 GMT It has been noted; and earlier, I did post something to the effect of how much of a jackass I've been. A separate message of greater detail has been sent to Chris, and again an apology to him and everyone else. i didn't do right.
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> > There is an old expression that there are two sides to every story. > > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > Yowie Steve Touchstone - 10 Apr 2005 08:29 GMT >It has been noted; and earlier, I did post something to the effect of how >much of a jackass I've been. A separate message of greater detail has been >sent to Chris, and again an apology to him and everyone else. i didn't do >right. whew - glad to hear things may be worked out - outside the NG. I really don't know what the fuss is about - must have happened while I was swapped for awhile and deleted a couple thousand messages to catch up.
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Tanada - 10 Apr 2005 19:30 GMT > - must have happened while I > was swapped for awhile and deleted a couple thousand messages to catch > up. OK, I want to know who they swapped you with, how they did it, and if there was any improvement in the service department.
Cap'n Pine Cone esq. who is very interested in Sammy and Lil Bit's techniques
Steve Touchstone - 11 Apr 2005 09:30 GMT >> - must have happened while I >> was swapped for awhile and deleted a couple thousand messages to catch [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Cap'n Pine Cone esq. who is very interested in Sammy and Lil Bit's >techniques ROTFL, I just read my own post for the first time and the typo caught my eye right off.
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Tanada - 15 Apr 2005 22:33 GMT >>>- must have happened while I >>>was swapped for awhile and deleted a couple thousand messages to catch [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > ROTFL, I just read my own post for the first time and the typo caught > my eye right off. Yes, but did it work?
Cap'n Pine Cone esq. who REALLY wants to know
Duke of URL - 16 Apr 2005 13:53 GMT Haven't heard back from you - did you receive the exhausted kittys' photos okay? Moses
Tanada - 16 Apr 2005 16:04 GMT > Haven't heard back from you - did you receive the exhausted kittys' photos > okay? > Moses Dukey, if you sent it, I probably deleted it as I was dealing with almost 700 emails and was using a heavy hand on the delete button. I'm sorry, could you send it to me again?
Pam S. who probably read fewer than 25 of those emails
Duke of URL - 16 Apr 2005 21:00 GMT >> Haven't heard back from you - did you receive the exhausted kittys' >> photos okay? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Pam S. who probably read fewer than 25 of those emails Pffthththbbttt ... BAD kitty, no treats!
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Duke of URL - 16 Apr 2005 21:09 GMT > I'm sorry, could you send it to me again? The ZIPped folder is on its way - look for a 3.5MByte file.
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Tanada - 16 Apr 2005 22:11 GMT >>I'm sorry, could you send it to me again? > > The ZIPped folder is on its way - look for a 3.5MByte file. It's downloading to my email files right now.
Pam S.
CatNipped - 16 Apr 2005 16:17 GMT > Haven't heard back from you - did you receive the exhausted kittys' photos > okay? > Moses Hmmm, I thought I posted here that I got them, sorry. Yes, I loved them so much I forwarded them to a bunch of other people. Thank you *SO* much!!
Hugs,
CatNipped
Hopitus - 11 Apr 2005 22:04 GMT Oh, I love Cap'n PineCone esq. How is His Feistiness and is he still organizing predatory raids in the Pacific by recruiting wannabe cutthroats to his cause?
>> - must have happened while I >> was swapped for awhile and deleted a couple thousand messages to catch [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Cap'n Pine Cone esq. who is very interested in Sammy and Lil Bit's > techniques Tanada - 15 Apr 2005 22:37 GMT > Oh, I love Cap'n PineCone esq. How is His Feistiness > and is he still organizing predatory raids in the Pacific > by recruiting wannabe cutthroats to his cause? Not only that, but I'm thinking of writing my own blog. Sonya has some potential cabin kits with her. Eric and Traveler seem the most promising, but I might get SSG Huey to tak Qui Gun Kit and Pez into military training. They're both feisty and have potential as cannon fodder. Spike is a kit after my own heart. I'm thinking of making him my purrsonal assistant. Of course, the Fat Wench says that they'll be gone by our launch date, but what does she know.
Cap'n Pine Cone esq. who needs to make the annual call for crew members
sriddles@aol.com - 16 Apr 2005 14:37 GMT > Oh, I love Cap'n PineCone esq. How is His Feistiness > and is he still organizing predatory raids in the Pacific > by recruiting wannabe cutthroats to his cause? Since you brought it up, I would like to offer one fine, strong, young whippersnapper full o' vim and vigor who would make a right worthy deck hand. With the proper training by the Capt. I am sure the tenancity displayed in this fine young cat could be directed into more positive channels. (Translation: He is the hard-headed-est creature walking this earth) Besides, if the Capt. doesn't voluntarily take him, his four house-mates will likely tie, gag him and throw him in cargo) Tell the Captain that Grandmother says it isn't necessary for the mothership to send a clone. Really.
Sherry
Tanada - 16 Apr 2005 16:08 GMT > Since you brought it up, I would like to offer one fine, strong, young > whippersnapper full o' vim and vigor who would make a right worthy deck [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Sherry I put out the call for recruits on the Mouser Tails blog spot. Tell him to sign up and get his furry little bottom over to Roanoke Island for Spring Cleaning. I'm still cursing my head after that docking party back in December.
I'm sorry, but the Mothership requires a working clone to be substituted for any cat on a mission. Sailing on the mouser is included in that description. So, Granny, you're going to have to deal with the clone. However, I might be able to work a miracle and improve the grandkitten's behavior a little.
Cap'n Pine Cone esq.
CatNipped - 16 Apr 2005 16:19 GMT > > Since you brought it up, I would like to offer one fine, strong, young > > whippersnapper full o' vim and vigor who would make a right worthy deck [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > Sherry What's the address of the Mouser blog? I have a few kits who'd like to sign up! ;>
Hugs,
CatNipped
Tanada - 16 Apr 2005 17:23 GMT >>>Since you brought it up, I would like to offer one fine, strong, young >>>whippersnapper full o' vim and vigor who would make a right worthy deck [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > CatNipped http://mousertails.blogspot.com/ should get you there. If you want to add your own Mouser stories to the blog, please email me and I'll invite you to become a contributer.
Pam S.
Mischief - 16 Apr 2005 19:41 GMT My goodness!!! You ought to post the Exploring the mouser series I wrote last year
Last year the featured was the antics of Sammy, looks like this year it will be Captain, Stanley, and the bitty friends of Smokey too
Kristi
hobbs - 13 Apr 2005 11:31 GMT Laughing my hat off at that Tanada, Jean.P.
> > - must have happened while I > > was swapped for awhile and deleted a couple thousand messages to catch [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Cap'n Pine Cone esq. who is very interested in Sammy and Lil Bit's > techniques Brad - 16 Apr 2005 07:18 GMT
>All I ask of you (and Liz and Louie if he posts here) is not to use RPCA as >your personal debating arena. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Yowie I thought this was an unmoderated group......what gives you the right to speak for the group which is exactly what you are doing.....if the disagreement was about cats which is what it sounds like...... it is very on topic for this group I would think.....
If you have friendships with people here and thats the reason you are trying to censor the OP because of a friendship issue you are very mucy out of line because there are some people here who may not care about others friendships.
Brad
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Adrian - 16 Apr 2005 13:04 GMT >> All I ask of you (and Liz and Louie if he posts here) is not to use >> RPCA as your personal debating arena. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Brad What gives you the right to criticise a long term poster when you've only been here a few days?
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Tanada - 16 Apr 2005 16:13 GMT > What gives you the right to criticise a long term poster when you've > only been here a few days? I wondered where he came from. Brad, the address for the FAQ is http://www.angelfire.com/mt/yowie/catfaq.htm Notice that YOWIE is a part of the name. I seriously think that Yowie captures the essence of being a member of this group and, if anyone has the right to question the motives of posters, Yowie does. I know for a fact that she was here when I joined in 1998. I think the only poster who's been in here longer is Dave Stevenson, and He'd probably agree with her that being rude and catty to each other violates the SPIRIT of our group.
Pam S. who thinks that Brad REALLY needs either to read the FAQ or take up cooking
Brad - 17 Apr 2005 07:22 GMT
>What gives you the right to criticise a long term poster when you've >only been here a few days? Sorry I can't address all of you a.s kissers individually but you know who you are and I speak to all of you......the above quote was maybe the most stupid so thats why I chose it......no one has a right to moderate this group.....a long term poster or someone who just got here.......problem with you guys is that after awhile you think you own and speak for the entire group......no one has told me why Yowie has the right to try and censor the group.....I made my point you are all idiots who are led around by the nose by each other...lol.....its so cute......I am done with this thread there is a group like you guys in every newsgroup and you are always the same.......low IQ's and a.s kissers.......nice chattin with ya though.....
Brad
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pmendhall - 17 Apr 2005 07:26 GMT > in every newsgroup and you are always the same.......low IQ's and a.s > kissers.......nice chattin with ya though..... Still below the good troll of the mumu wearing women. Oh well...
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Jo Firey - 17 Apr 2005 07:49 GMT >> in every newsgroup and you are always the same.......low IQ's and a.s >> kissers.......nice chattin with ya though..... [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Diane And if you plan to drink a few of these you may want to consider decaf. Blind drunk and wired are not a pretty combination. Especially if you need to work the next day.
Jo
Enfilade - 16 Apr 2005 14:20 GMT > > > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Brad Then allow me to add my vote, that I don't care to see other people's personal disagreements, when they can take it to email or other private channels.
Censoring is forcibly removing what a person doesn't want to see (And doesn't want others to see either). That's a hell of a lot different than politely asking people to please keep private disagreements private.
--Enfilade
Victor Martinez - 16 Apr 2005 14:45 GMT > I thought this was an unmoderated group......what gives you the right > to speak for the group which is exactly what you are doing.....if the Who the heck do you think you are to come here and tell us what we can or cannot do?
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pmendhall - 17 Apr 2005 05:09 GMT > I thought this was an unmoderated group......what gives you the right > to speak for the group which is exactly what you are doing.....if the > disagreement was about cats which is what it sounds like...... it is > very on topic for this group I would think..... Here is the link to the FAQ. It is a good read in and of itself. http://www.angelfire.com/mt/yowie/catfaq.htm
There was nothing wrong with what Yowie posted. This had nothing to do with friendships so much as keeping issues that should be private, private.
However, the tone of your post indicates that you are not familiar with this group or with its posting conventions. I would suggest that you google the group for more than a couple of days posting to see the type of discourse here. There are rarely flame wars here because the flamers are generally ignored in favor of recipes. Your tone suggests that recipes might be in order, however since you seem to be a new poster, I won't post one yet.
Diane
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