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Sammy's TED checkup
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Steve Touchstone - 06 Apr 2005 02:20 GMT Now that the girls have posted their take on Sammy's TED visit, let me tell you the hoomin view. Since the scare Sammy gave me last fall, and the diagnosis of a heart murmur, it was time for her quartely checkup. The good news is that her heart problem doesn't seem to be causing her any trouble.
I received a printouts of her test results, but don't really know what it all means. So, if anyone with more of a medical background understands this stuff feel free to tell us what it means. About all I can tell you is that under S-AMP the listed normal is 0.0-0.2mv and her average is 0.44, and the diagnosis is supraventricular tacycardia. Like I said, doesn't mean anything to me - the important thing is that her Doctor wasn't too concerned and says she's doing fine.
Unfortunately, when someone says "the good news is..." there's usually bad news. Sammy also got what is called a "major blood profile" and "urinalysis w/ sedimentation". Nothing too far out of line, but a couple results up in the high range. [CHOL 227.1 - normal 65.0-225.0, GLU 198.9 normal 76.0 - 145.0, and Na 167.6 normal 150.0-165.0] Dr Haney felt it the results may just be elevated because of her stress, but we're going to re-test on the 25th. If he feels she's too stressed, I'll either have to try to collect a urine sample at home, or board Sammy a couple days so that her stress levels will be reduced. Also, based on the results, Dr Haney changed her from Hills k/d to x/d.
BTW that change has been met with mixed reviews: they like the new wet better, but the old dry was better.
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Karen - 06 Apr 2005 02:31 GMT > Now that the girls have posted their take on Sammy's TED visit, let me > tell you the hoomin view. Since the scare Sammy gave me last fall, and [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > BTW that change has been met with mixed reviews: they like the new wet > better, but the old dry was better. Well, I'm glad he is not too concerned. Mischief posted a good tip about collecting urine. If you can get some plastic beads from a hobby shop and use that in the box, the urine can be poored off. I don't know if boarding would destress her!
Steve Touchstone - 06 Apr 2005 03:41 GMT >Well, I'm glad he is not too concerned. Mischief posted a good tip about >collecting urine. If you can get some plastic beads from a hobby shop and >use that in the box, the urine can be poored off. I don't know if boarding >would destress her! I remember reading about using beads to collect urine, but wonder how that would work when you have two cats. Sammy often decides to use the box right after I put in new litter, so maybe she'd hop in and do her business right after I put down a box of beads. Definitely something to try.
I really have my doubts about her stress level going down if she's boarded. She has spent every night of her life in this apartment with LB to keep her company. I would think that boarding would be more stressful, both for her and Little Bit, than a trip to TED.
So, I'm thinking the best way to avoid stress would be to figure out a way to get the urine sample here at home, if at all possible.
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W. Leong - 07 Apr 2005 16:33 GMT >>Well, I'm glad he is not too concerned. Mischief posted a good tip about >>collecting urine. If you can get some plastic beads from a hobby shop and [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > So, I'm thinking the best way to avoid stress would be to figure out a > way to get the urine sample here at home, if at all possible. I got a urine sample from Rusty at home once. I emptied the litter and put on a fresh clean litter box liner. Rusty still used his box without the litter. I emptied the urine into a vial and took it to the vet. They asked me several times how I got the sample before running tests on it. Of course if Rusty pooped in the box, this won't work. You can try to confine Sammy to a room with her own litter box.
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Howard Berkowitz - 06 Apr 2005 03:36 GMT > Now that the girls have posted their take on Sammy's TED visit, let me > tell you the hoomin view. Since the scare Sammy gave me last fall, and [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Like I said, doesn't mean anything to me - the important thing is that > her Doctor wasn't too concerned and says she's doing fine. I'm puzzled by S-AMP; it's not a parameter normally reported in human EKGs. There is an "S" point, but I can't think what it would tell you unless the "T" point is given with it. The duration and magnitude of the S-T segment is an important EKG parameter.
Supraventricular tachycardia, in humans, is more frightening than dangerous. It can cause faints, so is usually treated. There are both drugs and electric shock techniques to abort an episode. Prevention can involve medication, or using a catheter in the heart to burn out the location that's the incorrect pacemaker. I don't know if the latter procedure, catheter ablation, is available for cats. No real reason why it shouldn't be, other than it takes an electrophysiology lab and a team, including a skilled tertiary specialist.
> Unfortunately, when someone says "the good news is..." there's usually > bad news. Sammy also got what is called a "major blood profile" and > "urinalysis w/ sedimentation". Nothing too far out of line, but a > couple results up in the high range. [CHOL 227.1 - normal 65.0-225.0, > GLU 198.9 normal 76.0 - 145.0, and Na 167.6 normal 150.0-165.0] I wouldn't worry about the very slight elevation in cholesterol and sodium. The glucose is more of concern, and definitely should be repeated -- it might be nothing, or it might be early diabetes. Was Sammy fasting?
> Dr Haney felt it the results may just be elevated because of her > stress, but we're going to re-test on the 25th. If he feels she's too [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > BTW that change has been met with mixed reviews: they like the new wet > better, but the old dry was better. Steve Touchstone - 06 Apr 2005 08:27 GMT Thanks for the input, Howard
>> I received a printouts of her test results, but don't really know what >> it all means. So, if anyone with more of a medical background [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >unless the "T" point is given with it. The duration and magnitude of the >S-T segment is an important EKG parameter. Actually, right below the S AMP line there IS a T AMP. It says the normal range is -0.16-0.16mv. On that line (which has ten readings) Sam varied from 0.09 to 0.21, and Sammy's average is 0.15. I don't really see a direct correlation between the two lines S AMP & T AMP. <snip>
>> Unfortunately, when someone says "the good news is..." there's usually >> bad news. Sammy also got what is called a "major blood profile" and [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >repeated -- it might be nothing, or it might be early diabetes. Was >Sammy fasting? The glucose is the reason Dr Haney wants to retest. And, yes, I suppose you could say Sammy was fasting. It wasn't planned that way, just that I was in a rush to get her to her appoinment and we both skipped breakfast.
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Howard Berkowitz - 06 Apr 2005 16:48 GMT > Thanks for the input, Howard > > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Sam varied from 0.09 to 0.21, and Sammy's average is 0.15. I don't > really see a direct correlation between the two lines S AMP & T AMP. Unfortunately, this is hard to explain without pictures.
**** basic but technical description of EKG follows; may be skipped ***
An EKG is an electrical record of successive heartbeats. In humans, it's measured concurrently from 12 real and computed points, but since there isn't room for all the electrodes on a cat, feline EKGs have fewer views.
OK. Start with the word "isoelectric". That means straight horizontal line with no electrical activity at the moment. In an EKG, there are three major peaks, one of which has several components. Much of the analysis involves timing between the peaks, and then changes to the normal shape.
When the heart's normal pacemaker fires, there's a brief bump in the isoelectric line. This is called the P wave, and shows the electrical impulse starting. Heart rate, in a normal patient, is based on the time between successive P waves. There are many abnormalities where the heart can skip a beat, and if there is no P wave, that shows the problem is likely to be in the main pacemaker part of the heart, the sinoatrial (SA) node. Hearts also have backup pacemakers. I have a problem called Sick Sinus Syndrome, where the P signal doesn't always happen, especially when I'm asleep. For that reason, I have a surgically implanted pacemaker. Without it, my heart has been known to stop for as long as 10 seconds. It's electronic pacemaker time whenever the heart stops for more than 3 seconds.
The big wave is called the QRS complex. That's a little misleading, as in a normal EKG, you go from P to R. Q is present only in certain abnormalities. The big peak is the R wave on the rising side and the S wave on the falling side. This complex shows the large lower chambers of the heart, the ventricles, contracting and releasing.
If there is no QRS complex following a P wave, this is one of the many types of heart block, where the signal from the SA node is not being conducted to where it's needed.
Normally, the S wave returns to isoelectric, and, a little later, you'd see a T wave, which shows the recharging of the ventricles. If you draw a line between S and T, you have the ST segment. When the ST segment is above or below the line, there is a problem of blood supply to the ventricles: inadequate flow (angina or myocardial ischemia) or actual dead tissue ("heart attack" or myocardial infarction).
In atrial disease, you may see a very short time between P waves, sometimes even too fast for the ventricles to keep up. This will also make the EKG much harder to read, as you may get random P waves superimposed on QRS or T waves.
*** a little less technical
If the QRS signal has a high amplitude, it may indicate the heart has enlarged, causing a larger signal.
> <snip> > >> Unfortunately, when someone says "the good news is..." there's usually [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > just that I was in a rush to get her to her appoinment and we both > skipped breakfast. Marina - 06 Apr 2005 03:37 GMT > Now that the girls have posted their take on Sammy's TED visit, let me > tell you the hoomin view. Since the scare Sammy gave me last fall, and > the diagnosis of a heart murmur, it was time for her quartely checkup. > The good news is that her heart problem doesn't seem to be causing her > any trouble. That is good news, and that TED wasn't concerned for her. We'll be purring that the elevated blood values were due to stress and nothing underlying.
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Victor Martinez - 06 Apr 2005 03:45 GMT > Unfortunately, when someone says "the good news is..." there's usually > bad news. Sammy also got what is called a "major blood profile" and Lots of purrs for Sammy.
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SuzQ - 08 Apr 2005 12:39 GMT Health purrs for Sammy. Suz&Spicey
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