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Karen - 30 Mar 2005 21:38 GMT
Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.  You
will find that anyone having your phone number could track you right to your
house. I found this out, tried it and sure enough it works. So I submitted
for removal. I want to tell as many people as possible about this. I believe
this is NOT a good thing. To remove, click on the link above your name and
address and submit the removal form.
jmcquown - 30 Mar 2005 21:52 GMT
> Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.  You
> will find that anyone having your phone number could track you right to your
> house. I found this out, tried it and sure enough it works. So I submitted
> for removal. I want to tell as many people as possible about this. I believe
> this is NOT a good thing. To remove, click on the link above your name and
> address and submit the removal form.

Doesn't work if you are completely "unpublished" - that is to say, no one
can get it even by calling Information and claiming it's an emergency.

Jill
Karen - 30 Mar 2005 22:00 GMT
> > Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.  You
> > will find that anyone having your phone number could track you right to
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>
> Jill

This is true, but most people are not unpublished. All it takes for some
whacko to find someone's pretty daughter is to glance at the check you are
writing and memorize your phone number. Plenty of scenarios. I think it is
good for people to know about.
jmcquown - 30 Mar 2005 22:03 GMT
> > > Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.
> You
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> writing and memorize your phone number. Plenty of scenarios. I think it is
> good for people to know about.

Oh, I agree!  It's a good thing thing for people to know.  I don't have my
phone number on my checks, nor my drivers' license number, and god help me
why would people put their SSN's on their checks?  But I've seen it!  I very
rarely write checks; I do my banking online and let them issue the checks
for me.  I use my debit card when making purchases and don't have cash.  But
then, I'm a paranoid sort ;)

Jill
Monique Y. Mudama - 30 Mar 2005 22:54 GMT
> Oh, I agree!  It's a good thing thing for people to know.  I don't have my
> phone number on my checks, nor my drivers' license number, and god help me
> why would people put their SSN's on their checks?  But I've seen it!  I very
> rarely write checks; I do my banking online and let them issue the checks
> for me.  I use my debit card when making purchases and don't have cash.  But
> then, I'm a paranoid sort ;)

In college, every local store required your SSN on checks.  In retrospect I'm
pretty sure that's illegal.  The only place your SSN is required is (iirc)
your tax forms, but it seems that you'd have trouble getting anywhere without
it.

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John F. Eldredge - 01 Apr 2005 05:43 GMT
>> Oh, I agree!  It's a good thing thing for people to know.  I don't have my
>> phone number on my checks, nor my drivers' license number, and god help me
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>your tax forms, but it seems that you'd have trouble getting anywhere without
>it.

Back in the early 1970's, I was living in Kentucky.  The police
encouraged people to engrave "KY" and their Social Security Numbers on
property so that, if lost items were found or stolen items were
recovered, the police would know whom to return the merchandise to.
The police would lend you an electric engraving tool, free of charge,
so that you could mark your possessions.  I still have a hammer marked
with "KY" and my (now-deceased) father's Social Security Number.

On one occasion, my sister left her camera sitting on the roof of the
family car, and it fell off as we were driving down the street.
Someone found it and turned it in, and the police called us to come
pick it up.  Since it was a simple fixed-focus camera, it survived the
fall.

Obviously, no one was thinking about identity theft in those days,
although it probably was already occurring on a small scale.

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Hopitus - 02 Apr 2005 18:58 GMT
Hey, John....when I left FL last June, police agencies are
still doing periodic gatherings of the populace to bring
their items for "i.d. engraving" where they engrave your
name & S.S.# on whatever you bring. I don't think the
type of thief who burgles stuff would be interested in the
# for itself.....but always in back of my mind is that he
could sell your # to one who steals identities, which is
from what I read the way things go these days, at least
in the big cities.....

>>> Oh, I agree!  It's a good thing thing for people to know.  I don't have
>>> my
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> Obviously, no one was thinking about identity theft in those days,
> although it probably was already occurring on a small scale.
Jo Firey - 30 Mar 2005 23:46 GMT
>> > > Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.
>> You
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>
> Jill

Not all that long ago if you were in the Military you were pretty much
required to have your social security number printed on your checks.  They
finally got smart well after identity theft became a big issue.

Jo
Yoj - 31 Mar 2005 04:06 GMT
> > > Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.
> You
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> writing and memorize your phone number. Plenty of scenarios. I think it is
> good for people to know about.

If they're going to glance at the check, they can memorize the address,
which would make more sense.
Karen - 31 Mar 2005 04:31 GMT
>>>> Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.
>> You
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> If they're going to glance at the check, they can memorize the address,
> which would make more sense.

Well, I guess I posted useless info. Sorry all.
jmcquown - 31 Mar 2005 04:34 GMT
> >>>> Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.
> >> You
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> >
> Well, I guess I posted useless info. Sorry all.

No, you didn't!  Nice that you did because lots of people wouldn't think
about this.

Jill
Tanada - 31 Mar 2005 04:49 GMT
> Well, I guess I posted useless info. Sorry all.

Actually the information isn't useless; one could type a phone number in
for a chosen city and then use the information as a start to set up an
identification theft.

Pam S.
Sam Nash - 31 Mar 2005 05:15 GMT
>>>>> Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.
>>> You
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>>
> Well, I guess I posted useless info. Sorry all.

Don't apologize, Karen.  I know about reversephonedirectory.com and use it
frequently (for business).  I'd never thought about google having it.  I
checked google and it had me dead on (address, etc.).  Thanks again for the
heads-up.
Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe
Karen - 31 Mar 2005 05:36 GMT
>>>>>> Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.
>>>> You
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> heads-up.
> Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe

THat's just it. There are lots of online reverse lookups on line (which I
have also removed myself from) but a large majority of people don't realize
that they are there (I work for a phone company. Trust me. The number of
"Gee, I never made this long distance call. Who is it?" requests can attest
to that.
Hopitus - 31 Mar 2005 05:37 GMT
I don't think your 411 is useless! For one thing, it may
cause some people to change their listings to "Unlisted"
or "Non-Published" (for which every phone company
I've used charges you up to about $2 a month!) to avoid
this Google display.
I don't think....but am not sure....that cell phone #s show
up like that.

>>>>> Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.
>>> You
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>>
> Well, I guess I posted useless info. Sorry all.
Karen - 31 Mar 2005 05:53 GMT
> I don't think your 411 is useless! For one thing, it may
> cause some people to change their listings to "Unlisted"
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> I don't think....but am not sure....that cell phone #s show
> up like that.

Oh, and a note about nonpublished numbers to folks that they may not know.
It does not always prevent your number from showing up on caller id. Be sure
to ask your phone company about that. Sometimes you have to get an
additional feature called something like "per line blocking" which covers
that part of it. Some companies may bundle them, but it is not always the
case.
O J - 31 Mar 2005 07:39 GMT
>Oh, and a note about nonpublished numbers to folks that they may not know.
>It does not always prevent your number from showing up on caller id. Be sure
>to ask your phone company about that. Sometimes you have to get an
>additional feature called something like "per line blocking" which covers
>that part of it. Some companies may bundle them, but it is not always the
>case.

We have our phone connection set not to accept anonymous calls.
There's a message that informs the caller of that and gives them three
choices.  You can let the information through for just that call, you
can say your name and hope we know you, or you can enter a ten-digit
code sequence if you know it.

Most people just release their number info which you can do by
pressing "1".

Regards and Purrs,
O J
jmcquown - 31 Mar 2005 14:05 GMT
> > I don't think your 411 is useless! For one thing, it may
> > cause some people to change their listings to "Unlisted"
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> that part of it. Some companies may bundle them, but it is not always the
> case.

I had to specifically request my number not show up on Caller ID.

Jill
Helen Wheels - 31 Mar 2005 06:27 GMT
>>>>>Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.
>>>>
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>
> Well, I guess I posted useless info. Sorry all.

I don't think it's useless to tell people something. We can all decide
whether or not we want to do something with the information, but
spreading it around is generous, not useless.
Yoj - 31 Mar 2005 07:53 GMT
> >>>> Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.
> >> You
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> >
> Well, I guess I posted useless info. Sorry all.

Not at all.  If my address and a correct map had been shown, I would have
made sure they were deleted.

Joy
glsummer@neptunelink.com - 31 Mar 2005 18:25 GMT
>> Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.  You
>> will find that anyone having your phone number could track you right to
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>Jill

My main # is unpublished, and I had them not list my address for my
"public" number, so I guess I'm relatively "safe".  But it is a good
thing to let people know about who didn't do these things.

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Jo Firey - 30 Mar 2005 23:44 GMT
> Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.  You
> will find that anyone having your phone number could track you right to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> this is NOT a good thing. To remove, click on the link above your name and
> address and submit the removal form.

Not really news.  Reverse directories have been around for a very long time.
Pretty sure the Polk directories were in common use at least forty years
ago.

Jo
Hopitus - 31 Mar 2005 01:49 GMT
When I'm in a store and any sales personnel have the nerve to ask for my
S.S.#, I give them the "fish eye" and
ask, "And *why* would you want *that*?"....9 out of 10
back down; the holdout I insisted to call the manager, who then backed down
when I flung the merchandise on
the counter and turned to leave. You don't have to put up with that
nonsense.

>> Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.
>> You
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>
> Jo
Karen - 31 Mar 2005 02:14 GMT
>> Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.  You
>> will find that anyone having your phone number could track you right to
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Jo

Yes, but you have to buy a Polk directory for each town that you want to do
a reverse look up in. It takes a LOT more legwork than popping a number in
google.
Jo Firey - 31 Mar 2005 02:39 GMT
>>> Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.
>>> You
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> a reverse look up in. It takes a LOT more legwork than popping a number in
> google.

Really only a little leg work.  Public libraries have them

Jo
Karen - 31 Mar 2005 02:42 GMT
>>>> Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.
>>>> You
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>
> Jo

Well, whatever. I certainly feel  that people should know about this easy
access and remove their details if they want. Just how easy do you wish to
make it for wierdos to find their victims.
Yoj - 31 Mar 2005 04:05 GMT
> Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.  You
> will find that anyone having your phone number could track you right to your
> house. I found this out, tried it and sure enough it works. So I submitted
> for removal. I want to tell as many people as possible about this. I believe
> this is NOT a good thing. To remove, click on the link above your name and
> address and submit the removal form.

I tried it, and it has my city, but not my street address.  It has me in the
wrong zip code, and the map shows my house several miles from where it
actually is.

Joy
pmendhall - 31 Mar 2005 07:38 GMT
Thanks for the heads up.  I had removed our listing from the name searches,
but didn't think about the reverse look ups.

Diane

> Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.  You
Magic Mood Jeep? - 31 Mar 2005 14:55 GMT
> Thanks for the heads up.  I had removed our listing from the name
> searches, but didn't think about the reverse look ups.
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>> Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in
>> xxx-xxx-xxxx.  You

You should check out FreeAlity.  They have all kinds of reverse lookups.
Phone.  email.  Address.

http://www.freeality.com/findet.htm

Most of their links take you to different sites, some of which give minimum
information, unless you pay for it.
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Christina Websell - 31 Mar 2005 19:22 GMT
Which might, could it be?? a scam to get your phone number in the first
place.  I wouldn't dream of typing my phone number into Google.  Mine is
ex-directory, and that's how its going to stay.

Tweed

> Go to www.google.com and type your full phone number in xxx-xxx-xxxx.  You
> will find that anyone having your phone number could track you right to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> this is NOT a good thing. To remove, click on the link above your name and
> address and submit the removal form.

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