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Cat Forum / Cat Anecdotes / March 2005Chocolate
I was slowly taking note of a kind of slurping noise when it suddenly registered - that's a cat, and there's nothing edible on that table but my chocolate Easter bunny! Sure enough, Mandy was enjoying a nice treat; licking the chocolate bunny with every evidence of concentration and enjoyment! She didn't get much, and anyway, I think it's dogs not cats that chocolate is particularly bad for. Still, it's clear Mandy never got that memo on cat behaviour explaining that cats are Obligate Carnivores, they eat MEAT, they do NOT eat non-meat, particularly not sweet things, and particularly not the chocolate that was a special treat for the human responsible for bringing home the cat food!  SignatureCheryl I used to have a cat years ago (Toopy) who would slurp up pudding....but we never gave her any chocolate flavor. I don't know if choc. is unhealthy for cats. I think the carnivore thing is optional....as a child we had a cat who consumed raw tomatos like a machine. >I was slowly taking note of a kind of slurping noise when it suddenly > registered - that's a cat, and there's nothing edible on that table but my [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and particularly not the chocolate that was a special treat for the human > responsible for bringing home the cat food! > I used to have a cat years ago (Toopy) who would slurp > up pudding....but we never gave her any chocolate flavor. I don't know if [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > and particularly not the chocolate that was a special treat for the human > > responsible for bringing home the cat food! My partner's cat likes Marmite (gross) and liked it off a spoon the other day, so we've written to Marmite to see if they'd like to use her in their next ad campaign! My cat likes boiled eggs. When I first got him I had a boiled egg and toast on the table, went to take a phone call, when I came back he'd licked the butter off the toast, eaten the egg out of the shell and was using it as a football. Luckily I've managed to train him not to jump on the table any more - about the only thing I've managed to train him to do mind you. Sounds like you have a cat who's into breakfast! What is"Marmite"? >> I used to have a cat years ago (Toopy) who would slurp >> up pudding....but we never gave her any chocolate flavor. I don't know if [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > Luckily I've managed to train him not to jump on the table any more - > about the only thing I've managed to train him to do mind you. Addendum: Went online & cranked out "Marmite" - GO. After checking out the website am more confused than ever (after all....we're in the Colonies, ya know)! All that is clear is that it's *something* you spread on bread for sandwiches! Feeling like I'm a few sandwiches short of a picnic, Hopitus awaits the revealing post with bated breath. If cats like it, it can't be too bad.......... > Sounds like you have a cat who's into breakfast! > What is"Marmite"? [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >> Luckily I've managed to train him not to jump on the table any more - >> about the only thing I've managed to train him to do mind you. > Addendum: Went online & cranked out "Marmite" - GO. > After checking out the website am more confused than [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > picnic, Hopitus awaits the revealing post with bated breath. If cats like > it, it can't be too bad.......... It's some kind of brewing byproduct that is supposed to be really nutritious, and that I think you have to be indoctrinated with as an infant in order to develop a taste for it. I think there's also a similar product called something like vegemite. I don't have either in my house, because I don't eat them, and, to be honest, they aren't common here, either. SignatureCheryl >> Addendum: Went online & cranked out "Marmite" - GO. >> After checking out the website am more confused than [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > similar product called something like vegemite. I don't have either > in my house, because I don't eat them, and, to be honest, they aren't > common here, either. Marmite is from the UK and Vegemite is from Australia. I don't really know what the difference is, but they taste like soy sauce to me. Ick. -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album > Addendum: Went online & cranked out "Marmite" - GO. > After checking out the website am more confused than [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > >> Luckily I've managed to train him not to jump on the table any more - > >> about the only thing I've managed to train him to do mind you. Note to Marcia: When visiting US, bring own jar of Marmite!! It's a highly addictive yeast extract spread that you have on toast, bagels etc. You can also use a spoonful in soups, stews etc. as flavouring, as they say in their ads "you either love it or hate it" It also contains Thiamin, Riboflavin, Niacin, Folic Acid and B12 which I believe is good for me as I'm a veggie. It's yummy! I guess Roots (partner's cat) likes it cos of the yeast? Australians have their version called Vegemite, and argue that it's better, and pay a fortune for it when they come to the UK. In fact my neice who lives in Australia made a real fuss going round the shops looking for it and wouldn't eat the Marmite I'd got for her, in Oz it's part of the culture to eat it. >I used to have a cat years ago (Toopy) who would slurp > up pudding....but we never gave her any chocolate flavor. I don't know if > choc. is unhealthy for cats. > I think the carnivore thing is optional....as a child we had > a cat who consumed raw tomatos like a machine. We had a Tom when I was a kid who liked lettuce. The current crew are more traditional, although Cali's a carbo cat who likes her crunchies, Wasa, Doritos, crackers. Smokey's strictly a meat and dairy cat, including Ice Cream. >>I was slowly taking note of a kind of slurping noise when it suddenly >> registered - that's a cat, and there's nothing edible on that table but [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >> and particularly not the chocolate that was a special treat for the human >> responsible for bringing home the cat food! As a child we had a cat who used to dig potatoes out of the bag in the backroom and nibble on them. When we peeled, he used to beg for scraps. Then as an adult, I had a cat who loved fresh fruit, especially bananas. I found this out when he cleaned the mango pieces off the table one morning. He also loved yogurt, any flavor. Rita, like Fin before her, wants nothing to do with people food. So, how much chocolate did she get before being 'rescued'? lol Jane >I used to have a cat years ago (Toopy) who would slurp >up pudding....but we never gave her any chocolate flavor. I don't know if [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >> chocolate Easter bunny! Sure enough, Mandy was enjoying a nice treat; >> licking the chocolate bunny with every evidence of concentration and > As a child we had a cat who used to dig potatoes out of the bag in the > backroom and nibble on them. When we peeled, he used to beg for scraps. > Then as an adult, I had a cat who loved fresh fruit, especially bananas. > I found this out when he cleaned the mango pieces off the table one > morning. He also loved yogurt, any flavor. > Rita, like Fin before her, wants nothing to do with people food. > So, how much chocolate did she get before being 'rescued'? lol Very little - it was too big for her to chew on, so she only got what she could lick off before I noticed what was going on. Cheryl > I was slowly taking note of a kind of slurping noise when it suddenly > registered - that's a cat, and there's nothing edible on that table but my [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and particularly not the chocolate that was a special treat for the human > responsible for bringing home the cat food! When I was a teenager, our blue cat, Mary, ate the top off a chocolate cake. We learned not to leave food on the table when leaving the room. MLB Chocolate is bad for cats too. Not AS bad, but it's still bad Kristi >I was slowly taking note of a kind of slurping noise when it suddenly >registered - that's a cat, and there's nothing edible on that table but my [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >and particularly not the chocolate that was a special treat for the human >responsible for bringing home the cat food! Don't let her have more, Cheryl, it's not good. It contains a chemical that's toxic to them http://www.betterliving.co.nz/content/atHome/Animals/dont-give-your-cat-chocolat e.aspx And it's actually worse for cats than dogs, since cats are usually smaller, and it takes less to make them sick, or even kill them. I understand what you're up against, though. Stinky has to be beaten off with a stick when I have chocolate-- he loves it more than anything. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com > Don't let her have more, Cheryl, it's not good. It contains a > chemical that's toxic to them > http://www.betterliving.co.nz/content/atHome/Animals/dont-give-your-cat-chocolat e.aspx > And it's actually worse for cats than dogs, since cats are usually > smaller, and it takes less to make them sick, or even kill them. I > understand what you're up against, though. Stinky has to be beaten > off with a stick when I have chocolate-- he loves it more than > anything. Don't worry - I took it away from the furry little thief! I was surprised she went for it at all. She doesn't always go for human food, and chocolate seemed like an odd thing for her to try, although she's not unique, it seems! I suppose it was a bit new to her, since I rarely have chocolate around, preferring to snack on greasy salty things. SignatureCheryl >> Don't let her have more, Cheryl, it's not good. It contains a >> chemical that's toxic to them [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >unique, it seems! I suppose it was a bit new to her, since I rarely have >chocolate around, preferring to snack on greasy salty things. I wish Stinky didn't love it. He seems to get as high on the scent as catnip. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com DP likes vegan chocolate chip muffins. I must remember that Smokey is not allowed to have any, no matter how he cries (he wouldn't want something that contains 0 percent dead animal anyway....) --Fil > Don't let her have more, Cheryl, it's not good. It contains a > chemical that's toxic to them [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh > My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com >I was slowly taking note of a kind of slurping noise when it suddenly > registered - that's a cat, and there's nothing edible on that table but my [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and particularly not the chocolate that was a special treat for the human > responsible for bringing home the cat food! This brings back a sweet memory about a dog we adopted from a shelter. We already had an elderly German Shepherd and my DH fell in love with a lurcher bitch we saw at the RSPCA, she was due to be euthanised in a few days as she'd not been claimed. She was only about 2 years old, so we agreed yes, we would take her on a fortnight's approval to see what the old boy thought. Well, he wasn't impressed to say the least, he didn't attack her but he growled if she came near. She behaved herself extremely well for two weeks, when the time came for us to sign her "adoption papers" So we did. The following day she pushed a stool up, climbed on it and ate all my Easter eggs from any shelf she could reach. She was a dreadful thief, no fridge or cupboard was safe, she could open them all. But I miss her. I lost her to liver cancer in the 90's aged 14. Tweed <snip> > She behaved herself extremely well for two weeks, when the time came for us > to sign her "adoption papers" So we did. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > them all. > But I miss her. I lost her to liver cancer in the 90's aged 14. Now, that's a clever thief, who had the timing of her acts right down pat! Betsy's the usual thief in my place, and the reason I never, never thaw out chicken or meat or fish on the counter. I don't even leave it there for a few minutes while I leave the kitchen to do something else. I well remember her delight when she discovered 'kitty popsicles' - frozen chicken breasts. But she doesn't go for chocolate, and in any case, spent the first months of her life scavaging for food, so she's got some excuse for her habits! SignatureCheryl I had a dog Ralph who was also a thief, but not food he used to bring homea varied assortment of things, and we could never find out where he got them from unless he stole them right under your nose, a few of the things he brought home were->a round sheeps wool rug,a watering can an umberella, a bag of potting mix, a trayof Meatsausages chops etc, a huge chicken as big as a turkey, I could go on-and on-and on, none of the meat trays were opened, but one day he stole from me,my groceries were left at the door, and when I got home he and his little collie mate had toilet rolls all over the frone lawn, and we didn't have fences talk about LOL. Jean.P. > >I was slowly taking note of a kind of slurping noise when it suddenly > > registered - that's a cat, and there's nothing edible on that table but my [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Tweed > I was slowly taking note of a kind of slurping noise when it suddenly > registered - that's a cat, and there's nothing edible on that table [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > chocolate that was a special treat for the human responsible for > bringing home the cat food! HAH! Boyoboy, did somebody lie to you! I've never had a cat who didn't like shweetshtuff. A couple of them, including Chaos, were not willing to sit and wait for a share to be proffered, either - cheesecake, frosted donuts, you name it, she allows me about 20 seconds leeway, then proceeds upwards and onwards to get her own. Cats also like veggies. Chocolate can easily kill dogs - never let them have any. It won't hurt cats, just make them more "fluffy". SignatureCliologist, Philanthropologist, Prothonotary Wibbler, Paleoconservative, Surface Warrior Squid Moses.DukeOfUrl@gmail.com >> I was slowly taking note of a kind of slurping noise when it suddenly >> registered - that's a cat, and there's nothing edible on that table [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > Chocolate can easily kill dogs - never let them have any. It won't > hurt cats, just make them more "fluffy". Chocolate isn't bad for cats? Seriously? Huh, I never knew that. I have some M&M's to get rid of.......maybe my kitties will like one. I've been giving them to the neighborhood kids. Then again, I probably don't want to start the kitties on a chocolate habit anyway. :~) kili >>> I was slowly taking note of a kind of slurping noise when it suddenly >>> registered - that's a cat, and there's nothing edible on that table [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > >kili Please DON'T give your cats chocolate, it IS indeed toxic to them. They may love chocolate--Stinky does-- but it is not good for them. Even if I don't see an effect right away, I wouldn't mess with it, because it stays in their systems, and can kill them in the long run. See these websites: http://www.petalia.com.au/templates/StoryTemplate_Process.cfm?Story_No=1390#ct-3 http://vetmedicine.about.com/cs/nutritiondogs/a/chocolatetoxici.htm http://vin.com/mainpub/xmas/chocolate_tox.asp And for plenty more, do a google search on "chocolate toxicity). One article says we see less chocolate toxicity in cats than dogs because they tend to gobble les of it than dogs do. But Stinky would eat a mountain of it if he could. I'd rather be careful and not let him have any. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com > >> I was slowly taking note of a kind of slurping noise when it suddenly > >> registered - that's a cat, and there's nothing edible on that table [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > kili I think the major problem in general between experience of having had cats eat "chocolate" things and the toxicity is that so many foods are "chocolate flavored" or contain so little actual chocolate that it does not become an issue. >> >> I was slowly taking note of a kind of slurping noise when it suddenly >> >> registered - that's a cat, and there's nothing edible on that table [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] >flavored" or contain so little actual chocolate that it does not become an >issue. How many times do I have to repeat it? It doesn't clear their system. So small amounts do not show effects at first, but they accumulate, and will eventually turn toxic. It's not like they eat it and drop dead from anaphylactic shock. But we learn to avoid things we know will be bad for us in the long run, even if we can't see the effects now-- such as cigarettes. Isn't it better not to fool around with the risk? Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com > >> >> I was slowly taking note of a kind of slurping noise when it suddenly > >> >> registered - that's a cat, and there's nothing edible on that table [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > now-- such as cigarettes. Isn't it better not to fool around with the > risk? I was just saying that the anecdotal stories presented where said animal doesn't get sick or get that sick is *merely* because it might have indulged in a product that doesn't actually contain real chocolate. I'm not saying its OK just saying that a lot of products are "chocolate FLAVORED" and that is probably why people don't experience the pets having sickness. I"m not condoning chocolate use. >> >> >> I was slowly taking note of a kind of slurping noise when it >suddenly [quoted text clipped - 54 lines] >is probably why people don't experience the pets having sickness. I"m not >condoning chocolate use. I know. I just get so worried. Theresa Stinky Pictures: http://community.webshots.com/album/125591586JWEFwh My Blog: http://www.humanitas.blogspot.com Hey, don't bring up *cigarets* and rattle the cages of us ex-smokers, OK? I myself am finding a UK store some where near me so I can go buy a little Marmite just to try it! It sounds, if not yummy, at least very nourishing and I am *not* a veggie. If I like it spreading it on a.m. bagel would be better than the usual jam..... I am not supposed to eat sweets and it was very hard up to yesterday going everywhere w/chocolate (my fave) abundance in stores, etc. not to buy any....but I didn't. Even if choc. wasn't harmful to cats, I can't imagine why anyone living w/cats would want to get them so every time you unwrapped a candybar, there they would be, in your face after it! Worse than little kids. >> >> >> I was slowly taking note of a kind of slurping noise when it > suddenly [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > is probably why people don't experience the pets having sickness. I"m not > condoning chocolate use. > Hey, don't bring up *cigarets* and rattle the cages of us > ex-smokers, OK? I myself am finding a UK store some [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > time you unwrapped a candybar, there they would be, > in your face after it! Worse than little kids. Good luck in finding the Marmite, I bet they charge you a fortune for it, so if there's a choice, just buy the little jar, because believe me you'll either LOVE it or HATE it, there's no inbetween! Also, the first time you use it, spread it thinly, someone I know spread it thick like jam and felt really ill afterwards, it has a VERY strong flavour and it needs to be spread thinly unless you've got a cast iron mouth that is. If you don't like it on your bagel, just use the rest to mix in with stock for soups or whatever. You can also use it as a hot drink if you like it, it's similar to Bovril (if you know what that is!) If all else fails try feeding it to the cat... > >> >> >> I was slowly taking note of a kind of slurping noise when it > > suddenly [quoted text clipped - 56 lines] > > is probably why people don't experience the pets having sickness. I"m not > > condoning chocolate use. ROFL...thanks for the advice. >> Hey, don't bring up *cigarets* and rattle the cages of us >> ex-smokers, OK? I myself am finding a UK store some [quoted text clipped - 94 lines] >> > not >> > condoning chocolate use. >>> I was slowly taking note of a kind of slurping noise when it >>> suddenly registered - that's a cat, and there's nothing edible on [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > kili Well, it's no worse for them than it is for us ... too much will decay teeth; contains sugar (do you REALLY want /more/-hyper cats?); the calories are "empty" calories; ek cetra SignatureCliologist, Philanthropologist, Prothonotary Wibbler, Paleoconservative, Surface Warrior Squid Moses.DukeOfUrl@gmail.com >>>> I was slowly taking note of a kind of slurping noise when it >>>> suddenly registered - that's a cat, and there's nothing edible on [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > teeth; contains sugar (do you REALLY want /more/-hyper cats?); the > calories are "empty" calories; ek cetra It is actually the theobromine in chocolate that is harmfull to animals, including humans, in sufficiant quantities. SignatureAdrian (Owned by Snoopy & Bagheera) A house is not a home, without a cat. > I was slowly taking note of a kind of slurping noise when it suddenly > registered - that's a cat, and there's nothing edible on that table but my [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and particularly not the chocolate that was a special treat for the human > responsible for bringing home the cat food! Barnabus has asked me to point out to everyone that in your concern about chocolate you've missed a most obvious example of Mandy's superior intelligence. Mandy is a cat, and yes cats are carnivores, and rabbits are most excellent prey for a cat. A rabbit had the audacity to invade her territory. Mandy not only discovered the rabbit, she hunted it down, killed it and was eating her prey. Granted, it was the strangest tasting rabbit she'd ever eaten (or perhaps she's never tasted rabbit before and thought this is how rabbits are supposed to taste). Nevertheless, in her opinion, as a carnivore, she was supposed to eat this rabbit. In admiration of Mandy, Barnabus > Barnabus has asked me to point out to everyone that in your concern > about chocolate you've missed a most obvious example of Mandy's superior [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Nevertheless, in her opinion, as a carnivore, she was supposed to eat > this rabbit. > In admiration of Mandy, > Barnabus Thank you for pointing this out. Do you know, in my concern for the chocolate, I completely missed Mandy's skill at spotting rabbits! I had been assuming, on the basis of a lack of dead prey in the past, that Mandy was perhaps not quite an expert in hunting. I now realize my error, and will apologize to Mandy! Apologetically, Cheryl |
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