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jmcquown - 26 Mar 2005 22:01 GMT
I'd been to the store and when I got home I immediately stripped off my
brassiere and tossed it on the floor.  As if that wasn't commentary enough,
Persia grabbed it by one of the straps and dragged it out of sight.  Either
she agrees with me these are evil creations or she highly questions my
choice of lingerie ;)

Jill
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John F. Eldredge - 26 Mar 2005 23:40 GMT
>I'd been to the store and when I got home I immediately stripped off my
>brassiere and tossed it on the floor.  As if that wasn't commentary enough,
>Persia grabbed it by one of the straps and dragged it out of sight.  Either
>she agrees with me these are evil creations or she highly questions my
>choice of lingerie ;)

Or, she liked the fact that it smelled like you, and was going to
cuddle with it.  Cats generally like just-removed clothing, including
shoes (proving that, while they may have keener senses of smell than
humans, they also have different tastes than humans).

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Kreisleriana - 26 Mar 2005 23:48 GMT
>I'd been to the store and when I got home I immediately stripped off my
>brassiere and tossed it on the floor.  As if that wasn't commentary enough,
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>
>Jill

I always rip my bra off too, when I get home.  I can take it off
without removing my shirt, which is a handy trick.

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Susan M - 26 Mar 2005 23:56 GMT
"Kreisleriana" <kreisleriana2@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> I always rip my bra off too, when I get home.  I can take it off
> without removing my shirt, which is a handy trick.

My husband is fascinated that women can do this.  He thinks it is some
feminine-only skill which is quite impressive.

Susan M
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jmcquown - 27 Mar 2005 00:24 GMT
> "Kreisleriana" <kreisleriana2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >
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> Susan M
> Otis and Chester

I've been known to do it while still in my car - no comments! it was when a
female friend and I got together after work and didn't have time to change
clothes.  But the first thing we both did was shed the bra.  And yes, men
find this unfathomable!

Jill
Yoj - 27 Mar 2005 00:38 GMT
> > "Kreisleriana" <kreisleriana2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > >
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>
> Jill

I guess the closest male equivalent would be a necktie.  Instead of
understanding it, maybe they could just think about how good it feels to
take a tie off and realize it's something like that.  ;-)

Joy
hobbs - 30 Mar 2005 11:34 GMT
This is one of my favourite tricks too KrieslerianaI had to laugh when I
read it,slide the strap down each arm, then pluck it out the middle yes?
     Jean.P

> > > "Kreisleriana" <kreisleriana2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > >
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> Joy
Kreisleriana - 27 Mar 2005 00:48 GMT
>> "Kreisleriana" <kreisleriana2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >
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>
>Jill

I remember a very drunken evening at the home of a gay male friend.
We were being silly.  I remember I did the bra-removal without
removing shirt trick, and replaced the bra on the outside of my shirt.
My friend almost choked to death laughing.

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jmcquown - 27 Mar 2005 03:15 GMT
> >> "Kreisleriana" <kreisleriana2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >> >
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> removing shirt trick, and replaced the bra on the outside of my shirt.
> My friend almost choked to death laughing.

You sure you didn't try to strangle him with it as one of the most hideous
male devices ever created? ;)

Jill

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Kreisleriana - 27 Mar 2005 04:57 GMT
>> >> "Kreisleriana" <kreisleriana2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> >> >
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>You sure you didn't try to strangle him with it as one of the most hideous
>male devices ever created? ;)

I could hardly hold him responsible- he was a pretty uninterested
party. ;)

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Victor Martinez - 27 Mar 2005 22:24 GMT
> You sure you didn't try to strangle him with it as one of the most hideous
> male devices ever created? ;)

Innocent question. Are bras required for anything at all? If not, why
wear them?

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CatNipped - 27 Mar 2005 22:32 GMT
> > You sure you didn't try to strangle him with it as one of the most hideous
> > male devices ever created? ;)
>
> Innocent question. Are bras required for anything at all? If not, why
> wear them?

Yes, to counter the ravages of gravity!  ;>

Seriously, having been very, er, under-endowed my whole life I went without
a lot (except if I wanted to wear a sheer blouse).  But I'm sorry I did now
because I've found out even a *little* can sag a *lot*!!!

Hugs,

CatNipped

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Cheryl Perkins - 27 Mar 2005 22:41 GMT
> Innocent question. Are bras required for anything at all? If not, why
> wear them?

For the more well-endowed female who enjoys active sports, a bra prevents
the breasts from bouncing excessively, which can be uncomfortable and lead
to rude comments from male spectators. Also, a lot of female clothing is
designed on the assumption that the breasts are a certain size, shape, and
in a certain position. It is generally essential to have properly-fitted
undergarments to make expensive dresses look right, particularly if the
lady in question is well-endowed and, umm, older.

Young women with small to average sized breasts do not really need bras
(unless they want to wear certain dress styles) but often wear them
because they feel sexy when they wear lacy bras, and their boyfriends like
them.

Young girls don't need bras but often desperately want to wear them
because it means that they are all grown up. Hence the invention of the
'training bra' (bra for young girls with nothing to put in the bra) and
the sale of an absolutely hideous frilly pink flowered example of the same
that my mother refused to buy for me when I was that age, although I
longed for it.

And they aren't the worse female garment. That's panty hose and related
items (including stockings, garter belts and girdles).

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Monique Y. Mudama - 29 Mar 2005 01:54 GMT
>> Innocent question. Are bras required for anything at all? If not, why wear
>> them?
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> undergarments to make expensive dresses look right, particularly if the lady
> in question is well-endowed and, umm, older.

Hrm.  In formal wear, I've always gone without, because I can't find any bras
that don't show.  (Well, there are a few corset-type ones that might work for
some dresses, but I feel like I'm suffocating when I try them.)  It's the
normal clothing where it seems more necessary.

(Then again, I don't think I yet fit in the "older" category.)

> Young women with small to average sized breasts do not really need bras
> (unless they want to wear certain dress styles) but often wear them because
> they feel sexy when they wear lacy bras, and their boyfriends like them.

Ugh!  I can't stand lace!  Itchy itchy itchy!  Well, a very few cotton laces
are comfy, but they're hard to find.

> Young girls don't need bras but often desperately want to wear them because
> it means that they are all grown up. Hence the invention of the 'training
> bra' (bra for young girls with nothing to put in the bra) and the sale of an
> absolutely hideous frilly pink flowered example of the same that my mother
> refused to buy for me when I was that age, although I longed for it.

IIRC, I got a training bra because starting in 7th grade, I had to change in a
locker room for PE and no one else was showing boobage, so I didn't want to
be, either.

> And they aren't the worse female garment. That's panty hose and related
> items (including stockings, garter belts and girdles).

Panty hose -- another item I avoid if I can at all manage.  Does anyone
actually wear girdles for non-historical reenactment purposes, though?

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Denise VanDyke - 29 Mar 2005 17:29 GMT
>>>Innocent question. Are bras required for anything at all? If not, why wear
>>>them?
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> Panty hose -- another item I avoid if I can at all manage.  Does anyone
> actually wear girdles for non-historical reenactment purposes, though?

Actually, I know a couple of ladies who wear their Elizabethan-style
corsets under their modern clothes when their back problems are flaring
up.  And I've heard ladies say that a properly fitted (key phrase)corset
can be more comfortable than a bra.  FYI, Elizabethan corsets are more
tube-shaped and only resemble the Victorian or Edwardian style corsets
in that they all use boning for structure, have laces, and wrap around
the torso.

Denise - who confuses Brenna by putting on long dresses and disappearing
for the day, and who does *not* do Elizabethan era costuming (but has
friends who do)
Seanette Blaylock - 27 Mar 2005 22:47 GMT
Victor Martinez <me@nospam.com> had some very interesting things to
say about Re: Is this a commentary?:

>> You sure you didn't try to strangle him with it as one of the most hideous
>> male devices ever created? ;)
>Innocent question. Are bras required for anything at all? If not, why
>wear them?

I personally find that I'm more comfortable with a bra on, supporting
body parts you don't have and wouldn't find of interest :-).

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Kreisleriana - 27 Mar 2005 23:11 GMT
>> You sure you didn't try to strangle him with it as one of the most hideous
>> male devices ever created? ;)
>
>Innocent question. Are bras required for anything at all? If not, why
>wear them?

Maybe if women still sat still all day.
I think there are people who really don't need to wear them.  But for
the rest of us, an active life is not really feasible without bras.
It's a lesser of two evils-- bras are not comfortable, but bouncing
around is  damned uncomfortable-- and gets you attention that you
don't always want. :P  And it also puts a strain on the connective
tissue.

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Monique Y. Mudama - 29 Mar 2005 01:49 GMT
>>Innocent question. Are bras required for anything at all? If not, why wear
>>them?
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> attention that you don't always want. :P  And it also puts a strain on the
> connective tissue.

In addition to bouncing around, I've found that without a bra, I soon get
awfully chafed; not just my nipples but also my armpits.  The bra reduces
friction.

I don't mind my bra most of the time, but every now and then it drives me NUTS
and I have to roam free for a while.  But then, some days I can run down the
stairs and not notice it, and others I'm holding myself because it hurts so
much.  Boob pain fluctuates with the hormones.  One of these days, I'd really
like a word with the guy who designed the female anatomy.

I have cast-iron nipples, but I don't care.  I'm not about to wear a padded
bra, and any ordinary bra + shirt combination doesn't hide them.

Oh, and for working out, a sportsbra is a must for me and for most women.

So, it's a love-hate relationship, at least for me.

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Karen - 29 Mar 2005 03:09 GMT
>>> Innocent question. Are bras required for anything at all? If not, why wear
>>> them?
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>
> So, it's a love-hate relationship, at least for me.

It's a must because without adequate support, you tear breast tissue and it
is now thought that thay can even contribute to cyst development. I had a
gyn that was nuts on this subject. Even small breasted women need the best
support they can get when running or being very active. This has been a
public service announcement.
Monique Y. Mudama - 29 Mar 2005 05:01 GMT
> It's a must because without adequate support, you tear breast tissue and it
> is now thought that thay can even contribute to cyst development. I had a
> gyn that was nuts on this subject. Even small breasted women need the best
> support they can get when running or being very active. This has been a
> public service announcement.

I've never heard of this.  Can you show some resources?

If it's true, I reiterate that I demand a "discussion" involving a baseball
bat with the guy who designed the female anatomy.  It doesn't make any sense
at all that the female human would require support for activities.  Bras (let
alone sports bras!) have only existed for a couple hundred years.  Breasts
have existed ... well, a little bit longer than that.

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Katrina - 29 Mar 2005 05:24 GMT
>> It's a must because without adequate support, you tear breast tissue and it
>> is now thought that thay can even contribute to cyst development. I had a
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> alone sports bras!) have only existed for a couple hundred years.  Breasts
> have existed ... well, a little bit longer than that.

Except that up until recently average life expectancy for women was
mid-40's or so... most women didn't live long enough to have problems.

Katrina
Karen - 29 Mar 2005 05:59 GMT
>> It's a must because without adequate support, you tear breast tissue and it
>> is now thought that thay can even contribute to cyst development. I had a
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> alone sports bras!) have only existed for a couple hundred years.  Breasts
> have existed ... well, a little bit longer than that.

Well, Dr. Susan Love's breast book is a good place to start. I don't know of
articles or studies, just that this is a bid deal with my old gyn and also,
I believe it because when I first began getting cysts they were on the side
I sleep on and the boob that gets mushed the most because of it. The highest
concentration is always there. I'll see what I can find specifically but it
is still pretty vague since it's only recently breast tissue is getting a
lot of really high interest research funds.
Tanada - 30 Mar 2005 08:04 GMT
> If it's true, I reiterate that I demand a "discussion" involving a baseball
> bat with the guy who designed the female anatomy.  It doesn't make any sense
> at all that the female human would require support for activities.  Bras (let
> alone sports bras!) have only existed for a couple hundred years.  Breasts
> have existed ... well, a little bit longer than that.

Yes, but before there were bras there were corsets and breast bands,
sort of a laced tube that held the anatomy in place.  Bouncing breasts
have always been a problem for the richly endowed and there have always
been people trying to find ways to counter-act the problems.

Pam S. who knows about richly endowed
Seanette Blaylock - 29 Mar 2005 03:45 GMT
"Monique Y. Mudama" <spam@bounceswoosh.org> had some very interesting
things to say about Re: Is this a commentary?:

>I don't mind my bra most of the time, but every now and then it drives me NUTS
>and I have to roam free for a while.  But then, some days I can run down the
>stairs and not notice it, and others I'm holding myself because it hurts so
>much.  Boob pain fluctuates with the hormones.  One of these days, I'd really
>like a word with the guy who designed the female anatomy.

You and me both. I'd especially like to discuss the cramps/mood
swings/PMS thing.

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badwilson - 28 Mar 2005 03:14 GMT
>> You sure you didn't try to strangle him with it as one of the most
>> hideous male devices ever created? ;)
>
> Innocent question. Are bras required for anything at all? If not, why
> wear them?

If you have small breasts, it's not always neccessary.  But in
Thailand, it is *always* a must!  The bra must be padded too because
if you don't, the outline of nipples (high beams) might be visible
under your shirt!  Eeeek!
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O J - 28 Mar 2005 10:49 GMT
Britta wrote:

>If you have small breasts, it's not always neccessary.  But in
>Thailand, it is *always* a must!  The bra must be padded too because
>if you don't, the outline of nipples (high beams) might be visible
>under your shirt!  Eeeek!

Now that is hilarious!  Apparently the Thai folk have appropriated the
Western fascination with breasts.  It makes me wonder what the average
Thai would think if he or she went to, for example, an Aussie beach
and saw hundreds of them running around free.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
badwilson - 29 Mar 2005 03:15 GMT
> Britta wrote:
>
>> If you have small breasts, it's not always neccessary.  But in
>> Thailand, it is *always* a must!  The bra must be padded too
because
>> if you don't, the outline of nipples (high beams) might be visible
>> under your shirt!  Eeeek!
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Regards and Purrs,
> O J

For some reason Thais are totally obsessed with breasts.  They will
show butts in thongs but if there's the slightest hint of nipple it's
a no show.  The Thai TV channels can't even show women in spaghetti
strap tank tops because if no bra straps show then that means that the
woman isn't wearing a bra, and that's indecent.
There is a tourist island nearby where lots of women suntan topless
and the Thais are very shocked about it.  However, large groups of
young Thai men will wander up and down the beach incessantly, looking
at "Euro-boobage" ;-)
Also, they blur out if there's a sheer garment on the Fashion Channel
that shows nipple shining through.  I have also noticed that they blur
out skin colour bras.  They will show the fashion show with all the
multi coloured bras, but the nude ones get a big blur.
Of course, we're talking about a country where in an effort to have an
anti-smoking campaign, they have been blurring out people smoking on
TV.  This extends to cartoon smoking too and the funniest thing I ever
saw was an episode of the Simpsons where there was a pie smoking a
cigar and they blurred it out!
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Karen - 29 Mar 2005 03:42 GMT
>> Britta wrote:
>>
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Well that's a novel approach!! (like you don't know what they are doing??
LOL)
badwilson - 29 Mar 2005 04:07 GMT
>>> Britta wrote:
>>>
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>> that shows nipple shining through.  I have also noticed that they
>> blur out skin colour bras.  They will show the fashion show with
all
>> the multi coloured bras, but the nude ones get a big blur.
>> Of course, we're talking about a country where in an effort to have
>> an anti-smoking campaign, they have been blurring out people
smoking
>> on TV.  This extends to cartoon smoking too and the funniest thing
I
>> ever saw was an episode of the Simpsons where there was a pie
>> smoking a cigar and they blurred it out!
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Well that's a novel approach!! (like you don't know what they are
> doing?? LOL)

I know!  I think it draws the viewer's attention to it even more!
Very silly.
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David Stevenson - 28 Jun 2005 14:06 GMT
>Britta wrote:
>
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>Thai would think if he or she went to, for example, an Aussie beach
>and saw hundreds of them running around free.

  Makes me wonder what I would think ...

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O J - 29 Mar 2005 04:54 GMT
Britta wrote:

>If you have small breasts, it's not always neccessary.  But in
>Thailand, it is *always* a must!  The bra must be padded too because
>if you don't, the outline of nipples (high beams) might be visible
>under your shirt!  Eeeek!

I forgot to mention how funny I think the term "high beams" is.  I'd
heard, as I think most folk have, of a woman breasts referred to as
'headlights', but "high beams" was a new one on me.

I think the UK term for them takes the international cake though.
"Bristols"!

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Helen Wheels - 28 Mar 2005 04:30 GMT
>> You sure you didn't try to strangle him with it as one of the most
>> hideous
>> male devices ever created? ;)
>
> Innocent question. Are bras required for anything at all? If not, why
> wear them?

You can make a good slingshot from one in an emergency. I clearly
remember as a kid watching Joanna Lumley do just that on an episode of
the New Avengers.
jmcquown - 28 Mar 2005 19:04 GMT
>> You sure you didn't try to strangle him with it as one of the most
>> hideous male devices ever created? ;)
>
> Innocent question. Are bras required for anything at all? If not, why
> wear them?

They are anti-gravity devices.  Oh, and some people (read: my
long-lost-love) enjoy silky-lacy things covering female appendages, for no
other reason than to remove said silky-lacy things ;)

Jill
OU812? - 27 Mar 2005 05:13 GMT
> I've been known to do it while still in my car - no comments! it was when a
> female friend and I got together after work and didn't have time to change
> clothes.  But the first thing we both did was shed the bra.  And yes, men
> find this unfathomable!
>
> Jill

Heck, i'm mystified and impressed myself, i don't understand how you do
it without at least bringing one arm inside your shirt.

Also the fact that i'm more largely endowed might make it more
difficult, i dunno..

Kristy
Katrina - 27 Mar 2005 05:22 GMT
>> I've been known to do it while still in my car - no comments! it was when a
>> female friend and I got together after work and didn't have time to change
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Kristy

Well, I'm well endowed and can manage the manouver when necessary- the
trick is to unhook the bra and then pull the first strap out through
the sleeve and over the elbow... once it's over the first elbow the
whole bra can come out through the second sleeve (not recommended with
DDD underwires).

Katrina
jmcquown - 27 Mar 2005 17:42 GMT
>>> I've been known to do it while still in my car - no comments! it
>>> was when a female friend and I got together after work and didn't
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> Katrina

Careful, that underwire can put an eye out! LOL

Jill
Kreisleriana - 27 Mar 2005 18:23 GMT
>>>> I've been known to do it while still in my car - no comments! it
>>>> was when a female friend and I got together after work and didn't
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
>Jill

When they put a metal detector in a high school in Brooklyn, it kept
going off all the time.  They finally figured out it was the girls'
underwire bras.  

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-L. - 27 Mar 2005 08:56 GMT
> I've been known to do it while still in my car - no comments! it was when a
> female friend and I got together after work and didn't have time to change
> clothes.  But the first thing we both did was shed the bra.  And yes, men
> find this unfathomable!
>
> Jill

What I wanna see is a guy take off his jock strap without reemoving his
pants.  Now THAT would be a good trick!

-L.
Sandy - 27 Mar 2005 09:37 GMT
> What I wanna see is a guy take off his jock strap without reemoving his
> pants.  Now THAT would be a good trick!

That reminds me of the "walk off" scene in Zoolander.  Hansel manages to
miraculously remove his shorts without removing the pants, but when
Zoolander tries it he gives himself a huge wedgie!
Kreisleriana - 27 Mar 2005 15:46 GMT
>> I've been known to do it while still in my car - no comments! it was
>when a
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>What I wanna see is a guy take off his jock strap without reemoving his
>pants.

What would be the point of that?  :P

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jmcquown - 27 Mar 2005 17:49 GMT
>> I've been known to do it while still in my car - no comments! it was
>> when a female friend and I got together after work and didn't have
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> -L.

That would be funny as hell!  I must confess something... okay, no, I don't
have to but I think it's funny.  I came out of the hotel bathroom and found
John standing in front of the mirror wearing my black satin tap pants.  He
turned to me and said, "Aren't I cute?"  I literally fell on the floor
laughing as he stripped them off and he said, "Hey, you do it to me, I can
do it to you!"  Uh, yeah, but you don't fall over and laugh, you have a
different reaction :)

Jill <--picturing a 58 year old man wearing small black tap pants... ROFL
Kreisleriana - 27 Mar 2005 18:24 GMT
>>> I've been known to do it while still in my car - no comments! it was
>>> when a female friend and I got together after work and didn't have
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>do it to you!"  Uh, yeah, but you don't fall over and laugh, you have a
>different reaction :)

I once gave the Former Mr. T boxers with glow-in-the-dark polka dots.
;)

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jmcquown - 27 Mar 2005 19:47 GMT
>>>> I've been known to do it while still in my car - no comments! it
>>>> was when a female friend and I got together after work and didn't
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>> I don't have to but I think it's funny.  I came out of the hotel
>> bathroom and found John standing in front of the mirror
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> I once gave the Former Mr. T boxers with glow-in-the-dark polka dots.
> ;)

Did you play connect the dots? :-O

Jill (humming innocently)

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Sandy - 27 Mar 2005 01:54 GMT
> "Kreisleriana" <kreisleriana2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Susan M
> Otis and Chester

Let him keep thinking so -- they need to think we have secret abilities! :-)

Sandy
Kreisleriana - 27 Mar 2005 02:51 GMT
>> "Kreisleriana" <kreisleriana2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
>Sandy

Never trust a man who's too handy at removing a bra. :P

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Monique Y. Mudama - 27 Mar 2005 02:04 GMT
> "Kreisleriana" <kreisleriana2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> My husband is fascinated that women can do this.  He thinks it is some
> feminine-only skill which is quite impressive.

I think my husband is just disappointed I don't need his help for the trick.
He seems to think that everything involving my, erm, pectoral muscles should
involve his "help" ... which is helpful in much the same way as feline
assistance is "helpful."

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Seanette Blaylock - 27 Mar 2005 06:12 GMT
"Monique Y. Mudama" <spam@bounceswoosh.org> had some very interesting
things to say about Re: Is this a commentary?:

>I think my husband is just disappointed I don't need his help for the trick.
>He seems to think that everything involving my, erm, pectoral muscles should
>involve his "help" ... which is helpful in much the same way as feline
>assistance is "helpful."

Sounds like my DH :-). He says bras are OK, but he's much more
interested in the contents. ;-)

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jmcquown - 27 Mar 2005 11:05 GMT
> "Monique Y. Mudama" <spam@bounceswoosh.org> had some very interesting
> things to say about Re: Is this a commentary?:
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> Sounds like my DH :-). He says bras are OK, but he's much more
> interested in the contents. ;-)

I have to say, my long lost love likes my lacy bras.  Me, I'm not
complaining when he helps me get shed of them :)
O J - 27 Mar 2005 08:01 GMT
>Theresa  wrote:
>>
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>My husband is fascinated that women can do this.  He thinks it is some
>feminine-only skill which is quite impressive.

It always amazes me when I see DH set "The Little Girls" free without
removing her top.  I think the latest theory of the universe is that
there may be as many as seventeen dimensions.  Obviously, this trick
involves more than just the three we're (that is, men) are used to
seeing.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
David Stevenson - 28 Jun 2005 14:01 GMT
>"Kreisleriana" <kreisleriana2@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
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>My husband is fascinated that women can do this.  He thinks it is some
>feminine-only skill which is quite impressive.

  Actually, men can take bras off without removing shirts if they try
hard enough.

  However, whether they are their own bras ....

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Marina - 27 Mar 2005 08:38 GMT
> I always rip my bra off too, when I get home.  I can take it off
> without removing my shirt, which is a handy trick.

Yes, it's handy. I do that, too, when I get home. Ah, freedom!

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Shiral - 27 Mar 2005 00:04 GMT
Well, Nina has been known to abduct my drawers from the laundry basket
and make artistic arrangements of them on top of little piles of
shredded paper towels....

Brassieres ARE evil, but thank goodness women no longer have to wear
corsets!

Melissa
jmcquown - 27 Mar 2005 00:26 GMT
> Well, Nina has been known to abduct my drawers from the laundry basket
> and make artistic arrangements of them on top of little piles of
> shredded paper towels....

Nina is an artist!

> Brassieres ARE evil, but thank goodness women no longer have to wear
> corsets!
>
> Melissa

Ah, but I've been known to do that, too :)  Only when in costume, but still.
And Persia tried to run off with my satin boned bodice strings once!  Try
chasing a cat wearing a hoop skirt!

Jill
Shiral - 30 Mar 2005 01:50 GMT
Try chasing a cat wearing a hoop skirt!

Yikes! (I do assume that YOU are wearing the hoopskirt, not that the
cat is wearing it.... <EG>) I've worn hoopskirts... it's fun, but
awkward. I'm sure Nina would find it FASCINATING to climb UP a
hoopskirt from the inside.

Nina is a  Fang Shui artist, specializing in artful arrangements of
paper towels, pot holders and sometimes my dish sponges. That at least
is somewhat less embarrassing to come home and find one's
hinder-binders prominently placed on the living room carpet.
Photographs just don't quite capture the mood, even when the artist
poses next to her creations.

Melissa
Kreisleriana - 30 Mar 2005 02:32 GMT
>Try chasing a cat wearing a hoop skirt!
>
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>
>Melissa

Perhaps almost as embarassing to be sitting in the living room with
guests and drinks, and hearing the cat going BAP BAP BAP in the other
room . . . and suddenly come flying in, madly pursuing a skidding
tampon. :)

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Shiral - 30 Mar 2005 04:47 GMT
Oh my.... yes. I have to keep Nina ABSOLUTELY out of the bathroom at
"that time of the month" and toss things out in the kitchen trash which
is in a cabinet, so she can't dig it out later.  A few months ago, I
was lying abed late one weekend morning, watching her play in the
living room. I couldn't see what she was playing with, but I could see
she was having the most WONDERFUL time with it. It turned out to be  a
VERY dead cardboard tampon applicator tube.  I was just glad I live
alone!

Melissa
Seanette Blaylock - 27 Mar 2005 06:10 GMT
"jmcquown" <jmcquown@bellsouth.net> had some very interesting things
to say about Is this a commentary?:

>I'd been to the store and when I got home I immediately stripped off my
>brassiere and tossed it on the floor.  As if that wasn't commentary enough,
>Persia grabbed it by one of the straps and dragged it out of sight.  Either
>she agrees with me these are evil creations or she highly questions my
>choice of lingerie ;)

If it were Felix, it would just be his fondness for bras :-) [he
really does like them, thinks they're primo kitty toys].

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Enfilade - 28 Mar 2005 04:04 GMT
> I'd been to the store and when I got home I immediately stripped off my
> brassiere and tossed it on the floor.  As if that wasn't commentary enough,
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>
> Jill

If I hang a bra up to dry, the bitties are always playing with it,
swatting it, biting it, pulling on it.  I think DP raised them to be
perverts.

--Fil
Singh - 29 Mar 2005 05:06 GMT
In the Hanes commercials of life, Odessa is a girl who prefers
tighty-whities.

As Louie was getting ready for work a few mornings back, Odessa decided to
claim his undies for her own. She rolled about in them as if he'd washed
them in catnip tea, and he had quite a struggle on his hands when it came
time to put on the bottom halves of his businesswear.

Business wear...

"Hang down your head Tom Dooley,
Hang down your head and cry,
Hang down your head Tom Dooley,
Your tie is caught in your fly!"

Blessed be,
Baha
> I'd been to the store and when I got home I immediately stripped off my
> brassiere and tossed it on the floor.  As if that wasn't commentary enough,
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> --
> I used to have a handle on life...but it broke off.
Seanette Blaylock - 29 Mar 2005 05:17 GMT
"Singh" <bahadur@localnet.com> had some very interesting things to say
about Re: Is this a commentary?:

>As Louie was getting ready for work a few mornings back, Odessa decided to
>claim his undies for her own. She rolled about in them as if he'd washed
>them in catnip tea, and he had quite a struggle on his hands when it came
>time to put on the bottom halves of his businesswear.

Reminds me of a morning when I was getting dressed for work and Felix
was camped on my clothes. I had to argue with him for every piece of
clothing. :-)

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William Hamblen - 29 Mar 2005 06:10 GMT
>As Louie was getting ready for work a few mornings back, Odessa decided to
>claim his undies for her own. She rolled about in them as if he'd washed
>them in catnip tea, and he had quite a struggle on his hands when it came
>time to put on the bottom halves of his businesswear.

My older cat loves underwear.  If I leave the dresser drawer open
she'll be head down in the drawer in a flash, pulling my underwear out
and into a pile on the floor.
Sandy - 29 Mar 2005 06:23 GMT
> My older cat loves underwear.  If I leave the dresser drawer open
> she'll be head down in the drawer in a flash, pulling my underwear out
> and into a pile on the floor.

I had a cat who learned to open my sock drawer so she could get the socks
out to play with.  (The drawer was on rollers, so not that hard to open.)  I
ended up stapling velcro to the drawer and the side of the dresser to make
the drawer harder to open.
Singh - 30 Mar 2005 04:16 GMT
> >As Louie was getting ready for work a few mornings back, Odessa decided to
> >claim his undies for her own. She rolled about in them as if he'd washed
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> she'll be head down in the drawer in a flash, pulling my underwear out
> and into a pile on the floor.

Roxie has a thing for turbans. The other cats have learned to keep paws off
Daddy's turbans when he's winding them (in part because a Sikh's turban is
sacred, and in part because it causes a tangle of cat and Louie that's hard
to undo.) But Roxie will still attack the untied ends and swat at the
material like it's a little mousie dangling from a string.

Stosh, though, found Daddy's favorite tie-dye turban irresistable one day,
and crawled in it for a snooze. When Louie tried to take it so he could wrap
up for work, Stosh dug his claws in and muttered, "Oh I don't FREAKIN' think
so!" Louie went back to his closet, reminded of who was the man of the
house.

Blessed be,
Baha
Karen - 30 Mar 2005 04:22 GMT
>>> As Louie was getting ready for work a few mornings back, Odessa decided
> to
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> to undo.) But Roxie will still attack the untied ends and swat at the
> material like it's a little mousie dangling from a string.

Oh my gosh, I never thought of that, but boy that must be nearly
irresistable!

> Stosh, though, found Daddy's favorite tie-dye turban irresistable one day,
> and crawled in it for a snooze. When Louie tried to take it so he could wrap
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> Blessed be,
> Baha
Jo Firey - 30 Mar 2005 07:15 GMT
>> >As Louie was getting ready for work a few mornings back, Odessa decided
> to
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> Blessed be,
> Baha

I've got to where I really like turbans on some men.  Most useful though I
think is a guy who works with the roads department.  In addition to the
bright orange vests they all wear for safety he wears a bright orange turban
at work.  Much more effective than the vests.

Jo
 
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