Our cats only get to go outside on the weekends when my husband and I
are off work. Outside, off the dining room windows I've got a double
decker potted plant shelf I fashioned last summer from a couple of 6'
boards I drilled holes at the ends of, some knotted rope, and a couple
of very strong hooks to hang the thing from the eave. It hangs
directly above our open 2 man kayak that's upside down on a stand.
There are three fairly good sized potted plants on each shelf, which I
let the frost get to last winter :( so are all but dead now. Well,
a couple of doves (I'm guessing newlyweds) decided to build their nest
in the potted plant on one of the ends of the top shelf. Ok now,
right directly inside the house between the windows and our dining
table is the tall cat tree, so of course the cats knew about the dove
nest way before we did.
Here it is, saturday morning and the cats are all lined up by the cat
flap waiting for me to lift the 'no exit/entry panel' off so they can
go outside to immediately become lions and tigers. I was hoping the
transformation would make them forget about the nest, and it did - for
about 5 minutes. First, Sheba making herself virtually invisible
darts across the patio, the grass, and on to the kayak. Then Darla,
Bobby, and Marley Ann - with me, going in-between each
cat.........er.........lion/tiger, to remove it back to the inside of
the house. I closed the panel, and retrieved the other cats who were
still oblivious to the nest from the transformation and put them
inside the house too.
Now what? The cats want to go outside. They're already starting to
squabble amongst themselves and are playing "Slap You In The Face"
with each other. Louie is terrorizing the girls as if the whole thing
is their fault, DH is still sleeping, and the Texas Wildlife
Rehabilitaion Coalition isn't open to tell me if I can safely move the
nest/dead plant to a spot where the doves won't abandon it, yet safe
from the cats. (Wherever that might be)
I'm totally open to suggestions.
-bonbon
Christine Burel - 27 Mar 2005 04:53 GMT
> Our cats only get to go outside on the weekends when my husband and I
> are off work. Outside, off the dining room windows I've got a double
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> -bonbon
Have you looked inside the nest to see if there are eggs in it? If there
aren't I'd move the nest. I'd rather the birds have to rebuild the nest (if
it becomes necessary) than become kitty snacks, especially as I think doves
mate for life, although I could be wrong about the latter.
Christine
sriddles@aol.com - 27 Mar 2005 06:36 GMT
> Have you looked inside the nest to see if there are eggs in it? If there
> aren't I'd move the nest. I'd rather the birds have to rebuild the nest (if
> it becomes necessary) than become kitty snacks, especially as I think doves
> mate for life, although I could be wrong about the latter.
> Christine
Yes, Christine, I believe they do mate for life. I have a tearjerker
story to tell you about doves; when my DH was much younger he went
"dove hunting" with some pals. They shot into a group (covey?) of them,
and a female fell to the ground. One of the males flew down to the
ground, spread his wing over the top of the dead female, and laid there
by her.
It was the last hunting he ever did.
Sherry
hobbs - 27 Mar 2005 13:45 GMT
Hey, I tried to make her laugh now you've made me cry
Jean.P.
> > Have you looked inside the nest to see if there are eggs in it? If
> there
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> Sherry
bonbon - 27 Mar 2005 17:25 GMT
>> I'm totally open to suggestions.
>>
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>mate for life, although I could be wrong about the latter.
>Christine
Yes. There is one egg inside, and I've also heard that dove's mate
for life.
-bonbon
Karen - 27 Mar 2005 18:45 GMT
>>> I'm totally open to suggestions.
>>>
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> -bonbon
Can you put some kind of screening up around the area, with big enough
squares that the doves can get through but not the cats?
Duke of URL - 27 Mar 2005 19:45 GMT
>>> I'm totally open to suggestions.
>>>
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> Yes. There is one egg inside, and I've also heard that dove's mate
> for life.
It's not as though there is going to be any shortage of doves/pigeons.
Either let the cats be natural, or move the silly nest somewhere.

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sriddles@aol.com - 27 Mar 2005 06:40 GMT
> Now what? The cats want to go outside. They're already starting to
> squabble amongst themselves and are playing "Slap You In The Face"
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> -bonbon
Geez, Bon-bon, that's a real quandary you've got there. Hate to think
you're living with a bunch of cats who are in "slap you in the face"
mode. That's miserable.
I guess if it were me I'd just put up with it until you can get through
to the rehabbers. Could be that if they haven't laid their eggs yet,
you can just destroy the nest, and they will go elsewhere and live
happily ever after. Ya think?
But of course I don't know squat about relocating doves. :-) Good luck.
Sherry
-L. - 27 Mar 2005 06:43 GMT
> Our cats only get to go outside on the weekends when my husband and I
> are off work. Outside, off the dining room windows I've got a double
> decker potted plant shelf I fashioned last summer from a couple of 6'
> boards I drilled holes at the ends of, some knotted rope, and a couple
> of very strong hooks to hang the thing from the eave. It hangs
> directly above our open 2 man kayak that's upside down on a stand.
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Doves are pretty stupid (unlike other species). if you move their nest
they probably won't find it.
-L.
hobbs - 27 Mar 2005 13:43 GMT
As you said, you've got a *real* situation on your hands,
sorry for laughing, to make up for LOL, I'll send you some
really big moving the Doves Purrs or sorting out the cats Purrs
and wipe thesilly smirk off my face Hugs as well Jean.P.
> Our cats only get to go outside on the weekends when my husband and I
> are off work. Outside, off the dining room windows I've got a double
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> -bonbon
Christina Websell - 28 Mar 2005 02:55 GMT
> Our cats only get to go outside on the weekends when my husband and I
> are off work. Outside, off the dining room windows I've got a double
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> -bonbon
Very sadly I have to say that if the doves haven't got as far as eggs,
dismantle their nest and make sure there is a safe place nearby where they
can try again. Where they are at the moment is doomed to failure.
Tweed
bonbon - 28 Mar 2005 16:28 GMT
I think I've got the problem solved. As -L mentioned (and I'm in
agreement) dove's aren't one of the smarter birds, so I didn't want to
move the nest.
Instead, I found a large sturdy basket with a tall handle and set the
dead plant containing the nest inside of it and replaced it on the top
plant shelf so as to familiarize the momma dove with the looks of the
new arrangement. Once I saw her settle on her nest for a half hour or
so, I walked back over towards her, she took flight on to the fence,
and I took the basket back off the shelf, took the whole double decker
shelf down, and put a large hook in the eave at the center point of
where the shelves had hung, then placed the basket handle directly on
the hook. Now her nest is much higher, as well as safe from the cats.
I hope. Also this way if it rains, the nest will be protected from
the down pour off the roof (there isn't a rain gutter on the back of
the house, which was ideal for the plant shelf, as it was self
watering at every rain fall - Oh well)
I've posted some pictures to alt.binaries.pictures.animals if anyone
is interested in seeing before, during, and after shots. The before
pictures have cats.
-bonbon
bonbon - 28 Mar 2005 16:37 GMT
I forgot to mention that the cats were able to go back outside, and of
course were happy about that.
Gidget was first to become invisible and quickly tippy-toe while
making herself about 1/4" off the ground over to the nest area. She
jumped onto the kayak, became invisible again, then gave it up upon
discovering that the whole scenario had taken a change - one that was
not to her advantage.
I haven't seen anyone else show interest in the nest while outside,
but inside, they still take turns keeping an eye on the dove situation
from the cat tree.
- bonbon
Karen - 28 Mar 2005 16:46 GMT
Well, I think that is as safe as you can make it, momma knows where it is
and seems to approve and well, nothing is 100 percent certain all the time.
I think this is a very decent compromise.
> I think I've got the problem solved. As -L mentioned (and I'm in
> agreement) dove's aren't one of the smarter birds, so I didn't want to
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> -bonbon