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Am I over feeding?
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KittyLady - 25 Mar 2005 16:20 GMT Hi, I feed my Sassafras (Sassy) wet and dry food. After reading several of the post regarding feeding, diets and what not, I think maybe I feed her too much. Her vet has never said anything about her being over weight, actually when they weighed her Wednesday she was 13 ½ pounds. I feed her ½ can of wet food in the morning and ½ can in the evening. She also eats around 2 cups of dry food daily (I leave it out all day). She is a very active little girl who gets the zoomies at least 1 time a day. Her dry food is IAMS and her can is 9 lives (I have tried to give her the expensive wet food, but she will not eat it, 9 lives is the only one she will eat and then it has to be either the tuna and egg or the tuna and cheese). She does not get treats (only because I have not been able to find one that she will eat). Occasionally I will let her have some potato chips. She is 9 years old.
KittyLady - 25 Mar 2005 16:24 GMT Sorry this is an edit. For some reason the half can part did not show up. It should read I feed her a half of a can in the morning and a half of a can in the evening
Karen - 25 Mar 2005 17:12 GMT Does she really eat TWO whole cups of dryfood a day? What kind? I think that is a lot.
> Sorry this is an edit. For some reason the half can part did not show > up. It should read I feed her a half of a can in the morning and a half > of a can in the evening Karen - 25 Mar 2005 17:12 GMT Oops. I see IAMs and 9 lives. OK, now, I am not the purist others are about food, because really, it's so important that they eat, but truly 9 lives is about the worst food you can possibly feed a cat. I know it is super cheap but can you consider at least going to a little better brand? Like even the IAMs canned? (although, if you do that you could really probably spring for Science Diet or Wellness.) and I just think 2 cups dry a day is a huge amount. I think you should consider a dry food like Science Diet. It is just more nutritious, she will eat less and I would only give her about 3/4 cup per day at the most. Do you have piccies somewhere?
> Does she really eat TWO whole cups of dryfood a day? What kind? I think that > is a lot. > > > Sorry this is an edit. For some reason the half can part did not show > > up. It should read I feed her a half of a can in the morning and a half > > of a can in the evening Arthur Shapiro - 25 Mar 2005 20:32 GMT >OK, now, I am not the purist others are about >food, because really, it's so important that they eat, but truly 9 lives is >about the worst food you can possibly feed a cat. I know it is super cheap >but can you consider at least going to a little better brand Would you care to defend/expand upon that statement? I've always considered the store brands (Friskies, 9 Lives, Whiskas) to be equivalent, and have never been reluctant to purchase any of them.
Art
Karen - 25 Mar 2005 20:54 GMT > >OK, now, I am not the purist others are about > >food, because really, it's so important that they eat, but truly 9 lives is [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Art Well, gosh, I just know that supermarket brands in general, and particularly what I've read about 9 lives is not as nutrient efficient. If you've had good luck (and believe me, after Grant, I've decided if they really love something, I"m not going to totally deny them it - life is too short) then that's great, but I found my cats eat a LOT less but maintain weight, and excrete less waste on the more premium brand foods.
CatNipped - 25 Mar 2005 20:58 GMT > > In article <usmdnX7QoI07qtnfRVn-ow@giganews.com>, "Karen" > <kchuplis@nospamalltel.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > that's great, but I found my cats eat a LOT less but maintain weight, and > excrete less waste on the more premium brand foods. Same thing I've found. They eat about one third as much of the premium brands as they do the grocery store brands while maintaining weight. There are also less substantial things I've found (shinier coat and eyes, greater energy levels, etc.) with the premium brands.
And you're right too about the litterbox - much less there and *MUCH* less stinky!
Hugs,
CatNipped
Karen - 25 Mar 2005 21:06 GMT > > > In article <usmdnX7QoI07qtnfRVn-ow@giganews.com>, "Karen" > > <kchuplis@nospamalltel.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > > CatNipped This is kind of an interesting guide:
http://www.api4animals.org/689.htm
and
http://www.api4animals.org/79.htm
mlbriggs - 25 Mar 2005 23:55 GMT >> > In article <usmdnX7QoI07qtnfRVn-ow@giganews.com>, "Karen" >> <kchuplis@nospamalltel.net> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > > CatNipped My thought exactly. When Princess (RB16) first adopted me I fed her the store purchased canned foods. She shed terribly and her litter pan smelled awful. After about the first year I changed to Science Diet. Her coat improved remarkably and the stinky litterbox was no more.
When I acquired TuTu I fed her Iams because I can get it at the grocery store. She loves it and the store is only 3 blocks from home. I occasionally give her some dry Friskies for a treat (she loves them) but then the smell is obviously worse. MLB
zuzu22@webtv.net - 26 Mar 2005 05:33 GMT >I think you should consider a dry food >like Science Diet. It is just more nutritious, >she will eat less Science Diet is high priced garbage full of by-products and CORN, which nort nly is a common allergen, but SteveG posted a study that showed corn gluten meal (also in SD) was determined to be problematic and could be detrimental. Not much better than the garbage being passed off as cat food at your local grocery stores, not to mention the fact that dry food is NOT an appropriate diet for cats. Frankly I'm shocked that, as long as you have been reading the newsgroups, you've chosen to ignore all the evidence that bears this out. Especially since you had a cat with IC! Long ago, before I got educated about cat food, I thought Science Diet dry was a good food. Once I did the research and changed from that to a super premium canned food the food intake of my cats decreased by 30 %, the chronic urinary tract infections many were exhibiting were eliminated, and they are much healthier with silky, shiny coats. No diabetes or CRF either. For those who haven't read this article take a look: http://catsincanada.com/articles/feeding.html
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 26 Mar 2005 20:31 GMT >>I think you should consider a dry food >>like Science Diet. It is just more nutritious, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > as you have been reading the newsgroups, you've chosen to ignore all the > evidence that bears this out. I agree with you about Science Diet (but none of my cats would ever touchd it - dry OR canned - the few times I tried to feed it to them). However, any number of vets recommend "premium" dry food, unless your cat has UTS problems.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 25 Mar 2005 18:04 GMT > Sorry this is an edit. For some reason the half can part did not show > up. It should read I feed her a half of a can in the morning and a half > of a can in the evening You said the only moist food she'll eat is a couple "flavors" of tuna. I'm not sure that's the best diet for ANY cat. Mine, also, PREFERS the "fishy" foods, but she gets them in rotation with all the others - beef, liver, chicken, turkey..... She may not eat as much of the other foods, but she does eat SOME (if only the gravy), and I don't believe in catering to her that much (even if it does mean "feeding" the garbage disposer a lot of left-overs). It's there if she wants it - if she won't eat what she's fed, "she's et" (just as I was raised as a kid). Eat what's offered or wait until the next meal (and of course she always has dry food - she seems to like the Purina "Indoor Cat".)
Kim - 25 Mar 2005 16:29 GMT 2 cups of dry food sounds like an awful lot food! ... and what size are the cans?
I give Brio ? of a 3 ounce can of Wellness in the morning and the other half at dinner. She doesn't eat the half can all at once, but returns to her dish a few times during about a half hour period to finish it. She gets close to a cup of dry Wellness over the course of the day but I don't leave it out all at once cus I discovered when she was a kitten that no matter what amount of dry food I left out she'd eat it ALL. She still has that same tendency so small amounts at a time are all I give her.
Hi, I feed my Sassafras (Sassy) wet and dry food. After reading several of the post regarding feeding, diets and what not, I think maybe I feed her too much. Her vet has never said anything about her being over weight, actually when they weighed her Wednesday she was 13 ? pounds. I feed her ? can of wet food in the morning and ? can in the evening. She also eats around 2 cups of dry food daily (I leave it out all day). She is a very active little girl who gets the zoomies at least 1 time a day. Her dry food is IAMS and her can is 9 lives (I have tried to give her the expensive wet food, but she will not eat it, 9 lives is the only one she will eat and then it has to be either the tuna and egg or the tuna and cheese). She does not get treats (only because I have not been able to find one that she will eat). Occasionally I will let her have some potato chips. She is 9 years old.
KittyLady - 25 Mar 2005 16:44 GMT Its a standard size tin. My alarm goes off at 5 A.M., she hears it and is standing at her bowl ready to eat. I give her the half can of wet which she will eat at once, then before I start my housework I will fill her bowl with dry food. It is about a two cup bowl. She will munch this off and on all day. When we have our dinner at 7 P.M. she gets the other half of can and eats it right away. She will finish off what ever dry is in the bowl before morning.
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 25 Mar 2005 18:08 GMT > Its a standard size tin. My alarm goes off at 5 A.M., she hears it and > is standing at her bowl ready to eat. I give her the half can of wet [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > the other half of can and eats it right away. She will finish off what > ever dry is in the bowl before morning. I really wouldn't worry unduly. Depending upon body-type, 13 pounds isn't all that heavy for an adult cat, and cats are pretty smart. Unlike dogs, they'll seldom eat more than their bodies require, unless they've been ferals for so long they "load up" whenever the find food available. (And they generally taper down, once they become accustomed to getting regular meals at regular times.)
hobbs - 27 Mar 2005 03:18 GMT Thats what I meant when I said I don't think you can overfeed a cat they seem to know when they've had enough. Also although I leave dry food out during the day its less than a cup, Henri didn't eat much dry food but he ate a lot of chicken and his wet food, he weighed 9.3kl but he was a big cat, and when I asked the vet about his weight he said, he could lose a kl but he was fine really,Wilson is average size so I dont expect him to eat as much as Henri did. Jean.P.
> > Its a standard size tin. My alarm goes off at 5 A.M., she hears it and > > is standing at her bowl ready to eat. I give her the half can of wet [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > generally taper down, once they become accustomed to getting > regular meals at regular times.) CatNipped - 25 Mar 2005 17:03 GMT >2 cups of dry food sounds like an awful lot food! ... and what size are the >cans? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > matter what amount of dry food I left out she'd eat it ALL. She still has > that same tendency so small amounts at a time are all I give her. Cats will eat more of the grocery store brands than the premium brands because they have more "filler" that just gets passed through their systems (which is why the costs tend to even out because you have to buy less of the quality brands than you would the grocery store brands). This also results in more (and stinkier) litterbox offerings.
Hugs,
CatNipped
> Hi, I feed my Sassafras (Sassy) wet and dry food. After reading several > of the post regarding feeding, diets and what not, I think maybe I feed [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > been able to find one that she will eat). Occasionally I will let her > have some potato chips. She is 9 years old. EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) - 25 Mar 2005 17:58 GMT > Hi, I feed my Sassafras (Sassy) wet and dry food. After reading several > of the post regarding feeding, diets and what not, I think maybe I feed [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > been able to find one that she will eat). Occasionally I will let her > have some potato chips. She is 9 years old. I have always fed my cats on an "at will" basis - they always have dry food available, and moist food twice a day (which sits there until the next feeding, if they don't eat it all). The only one who might have been termed "fat" was the stray who adopted me after about three years on the streets, and once he realized he'd never have to go hungry again, he slimmed down. (He was still a BIG cat - weighed nearly twenty pounds - but it was all muscle, so neither humans, dogs nor other cats messed with him!)
Monique Y. Mudama - 25 Mar 2005 18:27 GMT > Hi, I feed my Sassafras (Sassy) wet and dry food. After reading several of > the post regarding feeding, diets and what not, I think maybe I feed her too [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > eat). Occasionally I will let her have some potato chips. She is 9 years > old. Without knowing how your cat is built, I have no idea if 13.5 is an appropriate weight for her.
Take a look at this chart: http://maxshouse.com/nutrition/Body_Scoring_System-Chart.jpg
Which of the descriptions best fits her?
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Christina Websell - 26 Mar 2005 00:39 GMT If Sassy is considered to be overweight, you are over feeding. I she isn't, you aren't. (although I have to say that she seems to eat a lot) For my cats, half a gooshy can in the morning, and again at night is plenty. I do give Boyfriend some dry, not much, to snack on. He likes it so much, I think he must have been fed on it exclusively in his last home. I'm trying to wean him off it and told him his willy will block up if he eats too much dry. He said he will just eat a little bit coz it's yummy and he yikes it.
Hi, I feed my Sassafras (Sassy) wet and dry food. After reading several of the post regarding feeding, diets and what not, I think maybe I feed her too much. Her vet has never said anything about her being over weight, actually when they weighed her Wednesday she was 13 ? pounds. I feed her ? can of wet food in the morning and ? can in the evening. She also eats around 2 cups of dry food daily (I leave it out all day). She is a very active little girl who gets the zoomies at least 1 time a day. Her dry food is IAMS and her can is 9 lives (I have tried to give her the expensive wet food, but she will not eat it, 9 lives is the only one she will eat and then it has to be either the tuna and egg or the tuna and cheese). She does not get treats (only because I have not been able to find one that she will eat). Occasionally I will let her have some potato chips. She is 9 years old.
Cheryl - 26 Mar 2005 02:38 GMT > Hi, I feed my Sassafras (Sassy) wet and dry food. After reading > several of the post regarding feeding, diets and what not, I [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > will eat). Occasionally I will let her have some potato chips. > She is 9 years old. Two cups of any average dry food has probably 450-700 calories. Way too much dry food. Most cats don't need more than 200-300 calories per day. (estimating of course. I can't right off find the online calculator for determining need based on weight) My overweight feral gets at most 1/2 cup of lite dry food in 2 separate meals, but she won't eat any canned food.
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badwilson - 26 Mar 2005 06:03 GMT That sounds like a lot. A can of food (Iams, Science Diet or Nutro) will last Vino 3-4 days and he has a big bowl of dry Iams available at all times but he only eats about 1/2 cup per day of it. He has been stable at 12 lbs all his life but does sport an impressive udder :-) -- Britta "There is no snooze button on a cat who wants breakfast." -- Unknown Check out pictures of Vino at: http://photos.yahoo.com/badwilson click on the Vino album
> Hi, I feed my Sassafras (Sassy) wet and dry food. After reading > several of the post regarding feeding, diets and what not, I think > maybe I feed her too much. Her vet has never said anything about her
> being over weight, actually when they weighed her Wednesday she was > 13 ? pounds. I feed her ? can of wet food in the morning and ? can in
> the evening. She also eats around 2 cups of dry food daily (I leave > it out all day). She is a very active little girl who gets the > zoomies at least 1 time a day. Her dry food is IAMS and her can is 9
> lives (I have tried to give her the expensive wet food, but she will > not eat it, 9 lives is the only one she will eat and then it has to > be either the tuna and egg or the tuna and cheese). She does not get > treats (only because I have not been able to find one that she will > eat). Occasionally I will let her have some potato chips. She is 9 > years old. hobbs - 27 Mar 2005 02:46 GMT I dont really think you can feed a cat too much unless they are big cats who eat a lot because they*are* big, or a cat that has an unusually large appetite, I feed Wilson a sm; tin of wet food mornings and fresh meat evenings and like you dry food is there always, mostly he leaves half the tin,just nibbling at itthrough the day, I pick it up when it dry's out, sometime he gollups his fresh meat down and somtimes hardly touches it prefering the dry,until henri got sick with his kidney's at 13 years old he ate very well except he had chicken breasts cut up instead of meat, Wilson wouldn't eat chicken. regards Jean.P. Hi, I feed my Sassafras (Sassy) wet and dry food. After reading several of the post regarding feeding, diets and what not, I think maybe I feed her too much. Her vet has never said anything about her being over weight, actually when they weighed her Wednesday she was 13 ? pounds. I feed her ? can of wet food in the morning and ? can in the evening. She also eats around 2 cups of dry food daily (I leave it out all day). She is a very active little girl who gets the zoomies at least 1 time a day. Her dry food is IAMS and her can is 9 lives (I have tried to give her the expensive wet food, but she will not eat it, 9 lives is the only one she will eat and then it has to be either the tuna and egg or the tuna and cheese). She does not get treats (only because I have not been able to find one that she will eat). Occasionally I will let her have some potato chips. She is 9 years old.
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