> Looks like we moved to MileHigh just in time.....between the 5 'canes last
> year and now this new law....check out
>
> http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-fforce24mar24,0,4336058.
story?coll=sfla-home-headlines
I'm of mixed feelings here. If someone forced their way into my home or car,
or if someone approached me in an aggressive/threatening fashion, I would
neutralize the threat first, worry about the person's welfare later. I'm not
about to get raped, maimed or killed because I toned down my response to a
threatening situation.
Laws in Colorado vary from city to city. An acquaintance of my husband's came
home a week ago with his wife and child and found a puddle of blood in the
house and his dog growling outside a closet. The man inside the closet was
begging to be let out, which they did after they'd called the police and the
police had arrived.
Oddly enough, this is what the police said about liability: Because there was
no "beware of dog" sign, the victims are not responsible for medical expenses.
If there *had* been a sign, the victims would have been responsible. How
messed up is that?
I'm still wondering, though, if there will be repercussions in terms of bite
records and "vicious dog" labellings because the dog defended her home. She's
a deaf albino pit bull.

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KellyH - 24 Mar 2005 19:51 GMT
> Laws in Colorado vary from city to city. An acquaintance of my husband's
> came
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> She's
> a deaf albino pit bull.
Was the man in the closet an intruder, or a guest?

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Monique Y. Mudama - 24 Mar 2005 20:01 GMT
>> Laws in Colorado vary from city to city. An acquaintance of my husband's
>> came home a week ago with his wife and child and found a puddle of blood in
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> Was the man in the closet an intruder, or a guest?
Oh, sorry. It was an intruder. I thought the part about calling the police
implied he wasn't welcome =P

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jmcquown - 24 Mar 2005 20:46 GMT
>> Looks like we moved to MileHigh just in time.....between the 5
>> 'canes last
>> year and now this new law....check out
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-fforce24mar24,0,4336058.
story?coll=sfla-home-headlines
> I'm of mixed feelings here. If someone forced their way into my home
> or car,
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> to a
> threatening situation.
I agree. And the article made it pretty clear they have to be in your home
or vehicle, you can't just walk down the street and play High Noon. There
are a *lot* of carjackings in Memphis (sad to say). While Memphis has no
such law about defending yourself and your property, more often than not
there are no charges filed against someone who is dragged out of their car
(at gunpoint) if they retaliate.
Jill
Here in uk, if someone breaks into your house and injures themselves (for
example you had a step in the stairs loose) they could sue the home owner!
Recently, an 18 yr old collected over ?500,000 in damages because he fell
from a warehouse roof at age 9. The award was made a while ago but earned
interest while in trust.
Apparantly it was all the fault of the silly warehouse owners who didn't
have a secure enough fence to keep him out! Never mind that he shouldn't
have gone up there anyhow.

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CatNipped - 24 Mar 2005 20:46 GMT
> Here in uk, if someone breaks into your house and injures themselves (for
> example you had a step in the stairs loose) they could sue the home owner!
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> have a secure enough fence to keep him out! Never mind that he shouldn't
> have gone up there anyhow.
I *HATE* legislation that allows that - that's the reason we're all paying
so much more both for physical products *and* insurance. Manufacturers and
insurance companies are certainly not going to *eat* the cost of those type
of lawsuits - the costs are passed along to the consumers!
Hugs,
CatNipped
Hopitus - 24 Mar 2005 21:23 GMT
LOL...apparently the actual law (not the news report
about it) was worded so that the senator who mentioned
"threatening appearances" on city streets was not talking
thru his hat. There are enough folks packing heat (no
permits, no) on s.FL streets w/o this new wrinkle.
And talk about the possible lawsuits! All I can think of
is "try not to look threatening" - LOL; still glad we moved here in spite of
hateful winter....yes, we are told
just about every day how mild this winter is...it's all
relative, ain't it?
>> Here in uk, if someone breaks into your house and injures themselves (for
>> example you had a step in the stairs loose) they could sue the home
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> CatNipped
Enfilade - 25 Mar 2005 02:20 GMT
> > Apparantly it was all the fault of the silly warehouse owners who didn't
> > have a secure enough fence to keep him out! Never mind that he shouldn't
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> insurance companies are certainly not going to *eat* the cost of those type
> of lawsuits - the costs are passed along to the consumers!
Me too. I don't have a lot of sympathy for people who are stupid and
willfully take risks. Take a risk if you want to. Be prepared to pay
the price, and shut up about it.
regardless of the law, anyone who would break into my home/vehicle and
threaten me, DP, and/or my cats, is going to have an unpleasant
introduction to 1. my security baton 2. my ceremonial sword 3. my
butcher knife and/or 4. my fists. I am a warrior, and I will protect
myself and my family first and foremost until the threat is no longer
a threat. If the intruder doesn't wise up and leave, s/he will get
what's coming to him/her. I would much rather be in jail knowing DP
is safe than free but having lost him to some attacker.
--Fil
Nan - 25 Mar 2005 00:06 GMT
>Here in uk, if someone breaks into your house and injures themselves (for
>example you had a step in the stairs loose) they could sue the home owner!
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>have a secure enough fence to keep him out! Never mind that he shouldn't
>have gone up there anyhow.
There was a case at a Boy Scout camp in Michigan a number of years ago
where a boy fell out of a tree. The camp ranger had told him to stay
out of the tree and the Scoutmaster had told him to stay out of the
tree, but you know hard headed kids. He had to show the adults that
he knew better than they did. Needless to say, he fell out of the
tree and was seriously injured. His parents sued the Scout camp, the
Scout council, the Camp Ranger, and the Scoutmaster, and collected
several hundred thousand dollars because they had never taught their
son to be respectful and listen to the adults in charge.
Nan