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Monique Y. Mudama - 22 Mar 2005 20:37 GMT
So I'm finally feeling like I might get over this bronchitis.  I can breathe
almost without obstruction, it's a sunny day, life is good.  I head over to a
nearby bakery for a yummy sandwich, and on the way back to work ...

I get rear-ended =/

Now, the driver is a super-nice guy and handed me his info without complaint,
but this is still not on my list of favorite things to have happen.  Making
matters worse, my lower back instantly started to hurt.  Now, my lower back
has been hurting due to all the bed-time I've been getting lately, but it was
finally feeling good this morning.  I even *noticed* how pain-free I was.  And
then I get hit.  I do carry stress in my lower back, so it's entirely possible
that this is purely a stress reaction, but I'm still not very happy.  I called
my chiro and left a message asking what I should do.  I'm hesitant for
financial reasons of seeing the chiro before hearing from the adjuster, but
for health reasons it seems like the right thing to do.

*sigh*

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Christina Websell - 22 Mar 2005 22:16 GMT
You probably got a jolt that's upset your back for a week or so.  Hope you
soon feel a lot better.
I got rear-ended 4 years ago.  I was parked, for G sake!  (lesson, do not
have a furious argument with your girlfriend when pulling away from traffic
lights, otherwise you might hit car because you are not looking where you're
going..)
I was hit at such speed that my car was totally wrecked and I initially
couldn't get out of it, which panicked me for a while in case it went on
fire.
I sustained a whiplash neck injury that took two years to recover from even
with physiotherapy.
Here's hoping you feel fine very soon after a day or two and you aren't
lastingly hurt, Monique.
Cars, no matter how much we think we like each individual one -and I felt
very attached to my Ford Fiesta at the time - can be replaced with another.
Just metal. Unlike the driver.

A PITA to sort out.

Tweed

> So I'm finally feeling like I might get over this bronchitis.  I can
> breathe
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>
> *sigh*
Monique Y. Mudama - 22 Mar 2005 22:44 GMT
> You probably got a jolt that's upset your back for a week or so.  Hope you
> soon feel a lot better.

Thanks, Christina!

I should be clear here; my car isn't very damaged (just a mark/indentation on
the bumper) and I probably am not either.  The vehicle that drove into me was
only two or three feet behind me, so the impact wasn't that great (although it
wasn't that small, either, because the vehicle was a heavy-duty truck).

This car seems to attract rear-enders.  Perhaps it's the gorgeous LEGO-blue
paint job ...

> I was hit at such speed that my car was totally wrecked and I initially
> couldn't get out of it, which panicked me for a while in case it went on
> fire.

That would terrify me.

> I sustained a whiplash neck injury that took two years to recover from even
> with physiotherapy.

It's really unfair how greatly we can be impacted by others' mistakes =/

> Here's hoping you feel fine very soon after a day or two and you aren't
> lastingly hurt, Monique.

Thank you!  I hope that's the case.

> Cars, no matter how much we think we like each individual one -and I felt
> very attached to my Ford Fiesta at the time - can be replaced with another.
> Just metal. Unlike the driver.

True enough.  I adore my car; it's the first new car I've ever owned and, more
importantly, it's the first car I dreamed about owning for a year before
getting it.  It's my dream car.  But you're right; it's just a machine, and
worst to worst it can be replaced with an identical machine.

That was hard to remember a year ago, when a commercial van backed into the
rear end of my parked, 4-day-old car.  I was apoplectic.  Fortunately, DH was
on the scene (stopped the van as it was about to leave the scene, in fact) and
took care of the exchange of information and whatnot.  Now, though, I figure
it's had its first scratch and, hey, I got Roxie with the intent of abusing
her by constantly loading her up with skis, mountain bikes, greasy and muddy
things, etc.

>  A PITA to sort out.

Yes.  The driver was extremely cooperative, so I'm hoping this claim will go
smoothly.  It should be pretty simple.  I'm not looking forward to the
paperwork for the injured back claims and all that, though.  Bleh.

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polonca12000 - 22 Mar 2005 23:02 GMT
Lots of purrs and best wishes,
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Polonca & Soncek

> So I'm finally feeling like I might get over this bronchitis.  I can breathe
> almost without obstruction, it's a sunny day, life is good.  I head over to a
> nearby bakery for a yummy sandwich, and on the way back to work ...
>
> I get rear-ended =/
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Yoj - 23 Mar 2005 00:54 GMT
((((((Monique))))))

Joy

> So I'm finally feeling like I might get over this bronchitis.  I can breathe
> almost without obstruction, it's a sunny day, life is good.  I head over to a
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>
> *sigh*
mlbriggs - 23 Mar 2005 01:22 GMT
> ((((((Monique))))))
>
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>>
>> pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

Probably should have an x-ray to be on the safe side.  Best wishes.   MLB
Monique Y. Mudama - 24 Mar 2005 05:01 GMT
> Probably should have an x-ray to be on the safe side.  Best wishes.   MLB

Thanks.  I had my back scanned by my chiro the same day and got an adjustment,
but have not gotten an x-ray.  My chiro seemed to think, from the adjustment,
that my back wasn't freakishly out of alignment, but he still needs to look at
the scan.

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Victor Martinez - 23 Mar 2005 04:09 GMT
> my chiro and left a message asking what I should do.  I'm hesitant for
> financial reasons of seeing the chiro before hearing from the adjuster, but
> for health reasons it seems like the right thing to do.

I'm pretty sure his insurance *has* to pay for any treatment you receive
to solve anything caused by the accident.
Purrs to you.

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jmcquown - 23 Mar 2005 11:53 GMT
>> my chiro and left a message asking what I should do.  I'm hesitant
>> for financial reasons of seeing the chiro before hearing from the
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> to solve anything caused by the accident.
> Purrs to you.

Most auto insurance has a limit on the amount of medical they will pay.
IIRC the standard in a quote is $10,000 but this amount can be increased.
Frankly, $10,000 doesn't cover diddly in terms of the cost of medical care.

Jill
Victor Martinez - 23 Mar 2005 13:25 GMT
> Most auto insurance has a limit on the amount of medical they will pay.
> IIRC the standard in a quote is $10,000 but this amount can be increased.
> Frankly, $10,000 doesn't cover diddly in terms of the cost of medical care.

We have coverage of $100,000 per person or $300,000 per accident.

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jmcquown - 23 Mar 2005 14:04 GMT
>> Most auto insurance has a limit on the amount of medical they will
>> pay. IIRC the standard in a quote is $10,000 but this amount can be
>> increased. Frankly, $10,000 doesn't cover diddly in terms of the
>> cost of medical care.
>
> We have coverage of $100,000 per person or $300,000 per accident.

I do, too, but you have to talk about it when you buy the policy.  Most of
them default to $10,000 medical and unless you specify something else,
that's what you get.

Jill
Monique Y. Mudama - 24 Mar 2005 05:06 GMT
>>> Most auto insurance has a limit on the amount of medical they will pay.
>>> IIRC the standard in a quote is $10,000 but this amount can be increased.
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> them default to $10,000 medical and unless you specify something else,
> that's what you get.

I don't think this will apply in my case, but if the person at fault's auto
coverage doesn't fully cover one's injuries, will one's own auto insurance
company pay for the remainder?

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CatNipped - 24 Mar 2005 16:06 GMT
>>>> Most auto insurance has a limit on the amount of medical they will pay.
>>>> IIRC the standard in a quote is $10,000 but this amount can be
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> coverage doesn't fully cover one's injuries, will one's own auto insurance
> company pay for the remainder?

The driver who caused the accident is responsible for any costs over and
above what his insurance will pay.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Jo Firey - 23 Mar 2005 18:27 GMT
>>> my chiro and left a message asking what I should do.  I'm hesitant
>>> for financial reasons of seeing the chiro before hearing from the
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>
> Jill

That's for you or your family if its  your fault.  The assumption being you
have medical insurance as well.  Higher liability coverage takes care of
others.

Jo
William Hamblen - 23 Mar 2005 21:12 GMT
>That's for you or your family if its  your fault.  The assumption being you
>have medical insurance as well.  Higher liability coverage takes care of
>others.

Medical payment is separate from liability.  Insurance companies
learned long ago that liability claims tend to be smaller when the
insurance company takes care of immediate medical treatment for the
injured, so medical payment is kind of a no questions asked type of
coverage.  You do not have to have been at fault to trigger medical
payment coverage.
jmcquown - 23 Mar 2005 11:56 GMT
> So I'm finally feeling like I might get over this bronchitis.  I can
> breathe almost without obstruction, it's a sunny day, life is good.
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>
> *sigh*

Oh dear, I'm sorry to hear this!  You really need to get checked just to be
sure.  I'd call his insurance company and inform them of the problem and let
them know you will be seeking medical care.  You should also ask how much
medical coverage his policy includes.  Hope you feel better soon!

Jill
Sam Nash - 24 Mar 2005 04:15 GMT
>> So I'm finally feeling like I might get over this bronchitis.  I can
>> breathe almost without obstruction, it's a sunny day, life is good.
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>
> Jill

Gotta differ on this one.  Do *not* call his insurance company to see how
much "medical coverage" he has.  The last thing you want is to let his
insurance company know that you're in any way willing to settle for the
extent of his "medical coverage".

If you got rear-ended, it's almost always the "fault" of the driver of the
car doing the "rear-ending".  So any claims you make against him (medical or
property damage) are covered under his liability coverage.

Disclaimer:  I am neither an attorney nor an insurance professional.
Consult your own for more accurate counsel.

Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe
Monique Y. Mudama - 24 Mar 2005 05:05 GMT
>> Oh dear, I'm sorry to hear this!  You really need to get checked just to be
>> sure.  I'd call his insurance company and inform them of the problem and
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>
> Sam, closely supervised by Mistletoe

I had my first discussion with his insurance adjuster today, basically setting
up an appointment to interview by phone tomorrow.  Anyway, she seemed really
interested in the fact that I was already seeing a chiro and asking about my
pre-existing conditions.  I answered as honestly as I could, but I really hope
she's not setting me up for a "eh, you already had back pain and you're just
trying to get us to pay for it" argument.  Bleh.  My back was feeling good,
and just after I was hit, it started hurting.  It's hurt since then, except
for the hour and a half last night when I got a "hot rock" massage treatment.
As soon as the massage was over, the pain came back.  It now feels "fizzy."  I
don't know if I can explain what I mean by that, but it does feely fizzy.  And
aches.

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CatNipped - 24 Mar 2005 16:07 GMT
>>> Oh dear, I'm sorry to hear this!  You really need to get checked just to
>>> be
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> And
> aches.

Either consult a lawyer on your own or ask your insurance company if they
have a lawyer you can consult.  Even if your back was hurt before the
accident, any *additional* damage is still their responsibility.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Monique Y. Mudama - 24 Mar 2005 16:54 GMT
>> I had my first discussion with his insurance adjuster today, basically
>> setting up an appointment to interview by phone tomorrow.  Anyway, she
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> have a lawyer you can consult.  Even if your back was hurt before the
> accident, any *additional* damage is still their responsibility.

I'm going to see how the interview today goes.  I realize that I didn't
communicate one thing over the phone well, and that's that I currently see my
chiro as more of an ongoing preventative care thing than as a treatment for a
specific problem.  With my active lifestyle, I'd rather catch misalignments
*before* they cause pain.  I've also noticed a significant change in my
posture, even though that was never something my chiro was explicitly working
toward; it's just a side effect of a healthier back.  Anyway, I think that the
idea of using a chiro for preventative care may be novel to a lot of people,
so I should make it clear to the adjuster what's going on.

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O J - 23 Mar 2005 22:05 GMT
--------------<snip>-------------------
>I get rear-ended =/
--------------<snip>------------------

I'm sorry to hear about the accident.  My back causes me a lot of pain
so I truly sympathize.  Get better soon.

Regards and Purrs,
O J
Monique Y. Mudama - 24 Mar 2005 05:02 GMT
> I'm sorry to hear about the accident.  My back causes me a lot of pain so I
> truly sympathize.  Get better soon.

Back pain sucks!

Does yours feel better if you apply some heat?  I have a sock full of rice
that I microwave now and then; feels great on sore parts.

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mlbriggs - 24 Mar 2005 06:53 GMT
>> I'm sorry to hear about the accident.  My back causes me a lot of pain
>> so I truly sympathize.  Get better soon.
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> Does yours feel better if you apply some heat?  I have a sock full of rice
> that I microwave now and then; feels great on sore parts.

Careful with that rice.  Don't you remember the cat that was severely
burned by just such a thing?
CatNipped - 24 Mar 2005 16:10 GMT
>>> I'm sorry to hear about the accident.  My back causes me a lot of pain
>>> so I truly sympathize.  Get better soon.
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> Careful with that rice.  Don't you remember the cat that was severely
> burned by just such a thing?

Well, poor Bandit was shoved *inside* the rice heating bag when she was
sedated and unable to move away from what was burning her.  If you are able
to move around you should be able to move the bag if you feel it getting too
hot.  Personally, I like those "Therma" pads that start heating up in
reaction to air and stay heated for up to 12 hours without ever getting too
hot.

Hugs,

CatNipped
Monique Y. Mudama - 24 Mar 2005 16:14 GMT
>> Back pain sucks!
>>
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> Careful with that rice.  Don't you remember the cat that was severely burned
> by just such a thing?

Of course I do.  But I don't use it when knocked out by drugs, and I am able
to move it to different parts of my body or even away a bit as necessary.
Typically I apply it to achy bits for a few seconds at a time, then eventually
I just leave it an inch or two away from me in the bed to warm up the sheets.
In fact, the main way I use it is actually to place it under the sheets a few
minutes before bed to toast things up.

I appreciate your concern, but I think there's a big difference between an
elderly, drugged cat being placed on a heating pad without adequate
supervision and a healthy, aware human who can move the sock as necessary.
Also, consider that the heating pad is probably similar in size to Bandit,
whereas the sock is very small compared to my body.

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Adrian - 24 Mar 2005 11:50 GMT
> So I'm finally feeling like I might get over this bronchitis.  I can
> breathe almost without obstruction, it's a sunny day, life is good.
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>
> pictures: http://www.bounceswoosh.org/rpca

{{{{{{{{{{ Monique }}}}}}}}}}
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