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Margaret Fine - 21 Mar 2005 20:28 GMT
Someone charged over $275 worth of stuff to my credit card.  It wasn't
me or Steve and the cards have not been out of our possession.  Now we
need to go through the rigmarole of closing down the accounts, filing an
affidavit of fraud, etc.  What a PIA!!!  Good thing we check the bill
when it comes.  I hear this is one of the ways that the crooks operate.
  Just charge a few things and see if anyone catches it.

Grrrrrr!
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jmcquown - 21 Mar 2005 20:33 GMT
> Someone charged over $275 worth of stuff to my credit card.  It wasn't
> me or Steve and the cards have not been out of our possession.  Now we
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>
> Grrrrrr!

I don't have a shredder but anything related to credit or checks I tear into
tiny shreds and put in different trash bags.  They'd have to be a jigsaw
puzzle genius and regular trash divers to figure out what my account numbers
are.

Good luck to you.  You might consider changing your SSN too, although from
what I gather that is a major PIA as well.

Jill
Magic Mood Jeep? - 21 Mar 2005 20:45 GMT
>> Someone charged over $275 worth of stuff to my credit card.  It
>> wasn't
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>
> Jill

I use mix all shredded important paper as with the used cat litter when I
scoop the litterboxes.

I figure if they want to go through 'recycled cat food' and then piece those
shreds together, then I guess they've earned it.

But I also check all bills when received.

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melizabeth - 22 Mar 2005 09:45 GMT
> I use mix all shredded important paper as with the used cat litter when I
> scoop the litterboxes.
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>
> But I also check all bills when received.

Good idea about mixing the litter box offering with the shredding.

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Nina K Pettis - 22 Mar 2005 17:50 GMT
Magic Mood Jeep© wrote:

>>>Someone charged over $275 worth of stuff to my credit card.  It
>>>wasn't
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> I figure if they want to go through 'recycled cat food' and then piece those
> shreds together, then I guess they've earned it.

I do that, too!

> But I also check all bills when received.

Yup.

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Margaret Fine - 21 Mar 2005 21:03 GMT
>>Someone charged over $275 worth of stuff to my credit card.  It wasn't
>>me or Steve and the cards have not been out of our possession.  Now we
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>
> Jill

We shred everything.  Last year our bank was hacked and they took 1,000s
of credit card numbers.  We got a new one but I wouldn't be surprised if
something like this is what happened.

We have fraud alerts on our credit reports so if anyone tries to open a
new account they call us to verify.  Last year someone tried to open an
account in Steve's name at Sears and they ran away when they were told
there was a fraud alert on the account!  Sears told us this.

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Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Mar 2005 21:42 GMT
> I don't have a shredder but anything related to credit or checks I tear into
> tiny shreds and put in different trash bags.  They'd have to be a jigsaw
> puzzle genius and regular trash divers to figure out what my account numbers
> are.

Unfortunately, every time you use your credit card, someone could be writing
down the number.  There are even tiny scanners a person can use in the palm of
their hand, so, for example, when your waiter takes your credit card, they can
also scan the number and use it or sell it later.

Caution is good, but it's so easy to use credit cards that I don't think you
can 100% stop fraud.  The banks know it, too, or they wouldn't make it so easy
to clean up the mess.  Heck, there are several chain restaurants around here
that don't require a signature for purchases under $50, and then there's
ordering on the web ... sure, you might never buy anything online, but the
thief won't mind doing so after they've swiped the number from you when you
paid for your oil change ...

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Margaret Fine - 21 Mar 2005 22:37 GMT
>>I don't have a shredder but anything related to credit or checks I tear into
>>tiny shreds and put in different trash bags.  They'd have to be a jigsaw
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> thief won't mind doing so after they've swiped the number from you when you
> paid for your oil change ...

The merchant said that they used my name (not Steve's) and they also had
our address including our apartment number so I have to wonder if they
got it from a company we do business with rather than a clerk or
waitress writing down the number.  We have an unlisted number so they
couldn't have looked us up in the phone book.

At least so far everyone has been nice and cooperative.  Back in 2001
when some kids in our neighborhood stole my husband's credit card  no
one wanted to touch it because they got it from the mail.  The local
police said they couldn't touch it because it was mail fraud and the
postmaster wouldn't touch it because they were minors.  We had to work
hard to get charges brought.

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Mary - 21 Mar 2005 21:02 GMT
> Someone charged over $275 worth of stuff to my credit card.  It wasn't
> me or Steve and the cards have not been out of our possession.  Now we
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>
> Grrrrrr!

God, that's awful. Do you know how they got the number?
Margaret Fine - 21 Mar 2005 22:41 GMT
>>Someone charged over $275 worth of stuff to my credit card.  It wasn't
>>me or Steve and the cards have not been out of our possession.  Now we
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>
> God, that's awful. Do you know how they got the number?

No, I don't know how they got the number but I suspect that they got it
from a company we do business with since they had our address including
apartment number.

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Margaret Fine - 21 Mar 2005 21:03 GMT
> Someone charged over $275 worth of stuff to my credit card.  It wasn't
> me or Steve and the cards have not been out of our possession.  Now we
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Grrrrrr!

One of the merchants involved gave us the name, address, and telephone
number of the person who received the package.  Apparently they used my
physical address but the wrong email and had the package sent to themselves.

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Mary - 21 Mar 2005 22:04 GMT
> One of the merchants involved gave us the name, address, and telephone
> number of the person who received the package.  Apparently they used my
> physical address but the wrong email and had the package sent to themselves.

Way to go! What do you do next? Contact the police, I imagine?
Margaret Fine - 21 Mar 2005 22:31 GMT
>>One of the merchants involved gave us the name, address, and telephone
>>number of the person who received the package.  Apparently they used my
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>
> Way to go! What do you do next? Contact the police, I imagine?

I talked to the bank again.  Their fraud unit was unsure who to call (my
police department or the police in the city where the guy took
possession of the stuff he charged to my camera).  So I decided to start
with my police department who said they'd be more them happy to accept
the complaint and they will have their special fraud unit call me back
in the next hour or so.

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Mary - 21 Mar 2005 22:43 GMT
> >>One of the merchants involved gave us the name, address, and telephone
> >>number of the person who received the package.  Apparently they used my
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> the complaint and they will have their special fraud unit call me back
> in the next hour or so.

Wonderful. I hope they can get the guy and jail him.
Monique Y. Mudama - 21 Mar 2005 21:36 GMT
> Someone charged over $275 worth of stuff to my credit card.  It wasn't me or
> Steve and the cards have not been out of our possession.  Now we need to go
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Grrrrrr!

I'd be even more proactive; check your online statement as often as possible
throughout the month.

I do this and caught a $3000 charge the day it happened.  I'm glad I caught
it; it was apparently a "fishing" expedition, because the same "company" tried
to charge $17000 on the same card three days later.  By that time, the card
had already been frozen.  Unfortunately, the charge was from Hong Kong, so I'd
be surprised if they ever make an arrest for it.

This is one reason I don't believe in check/debit cards and insisted on a
plain ATM-only card from my bank.  Yes, great, your bank will refund your
money, but in the meantime, how many checks will bounce and how many creditors
will be annoyed?  I also figure that credit card companies have a greater
incentive to take care of the problem because it's *their* money being stolen;
in the case of the checking account, it's *your* money.

What a mess, huh?

The reason I'm so proactive is because I noticed an odd $8 charge on my credit
card a few years ago.  I managed to sleuth out the phone number of the company
online and talk to someone who agreed to reverse the charges.  I have to
wonder, though; do they simply charge $8 to a massive list of cards and simply
reverse the charge for those who complain?  I can imagine that most people
wouldn't take the time to figure out why they'd spent eight dollars somewhere.

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Margaret Fine - 21 Mar 2005 22:43 GMT
>>Someone charged over $275 worth of stuff to my credit card.  It wasn't me or
>>Steve and the cards have not been out of our possession.  Now we need to go
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> reverse the charge for those who complain?  I can imagine that most people
> wouldn't take the time to figure out why they'd spent eight dollars somewhere.

Believe it or not this bank doesn't have on line access!  We've been
with them for about 10 years now but we had just applied for another
card with a different bank that does have on line access and were
planning on stopping this card.

This is why we make almost all purchases on the credit card.  I don't
even like giving people checks anymore for fear they will get the
routing number and some how drain our accounts.

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Victor Martinez - 22 Mar 2005 00:33 GMT
> I'd be even more proactive; check your online statement as often as possible
> throughout the month.

I check it at least a couple of times a week... :) That and I get online
statements only, no paper copies.

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polonca12000 - 21 Mar 2005 22:34 GMT
Lots of purrs and best wishes,
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> Someone charged over $275 worth of stuff to my credit card.  It wasn't
> me or Steve and the cards have not been out of our possession.  Now we
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>
> Grrrrrr!
badwilson - 22 Mar 2005 04:18 GMT
> Someone charged over $275 worth of stuff to my credit card.  It wasn't
> me or Steve and the cards have not been out of our possession.  Now we
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Grrrrrr!

Yup, this just happened to my friend in Bangkok.  They check their US
credit card online and she noticed 2 charges, one for a bit over $100
(make up or spa) and one over $300 (camera store).  She said she'd
definitely remember buying a new camera or that much make up!  Both
her and her husband never lost the cards.  It was a huge hassle to get
new cards to Bangkok from the US.  They were without a credit card for
over a month and her husband goes on tons of business trips.  What a
hassle.  I'm glad I pay cash for everthing except really large
purchases.
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Rrb - 22 Mar 2005 04:35 GMT
> Someone charged over $275 worth of stuff to my credit card.  It wasn't
> me or Steve and the cards have not been out of our possession.  Now we
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>
> Grrrrrr!

You might want to request a copy of your credit report as well just to
be safe. Good Luck.

rrb
Gabey8 - 22 Mar 2005 06:28 GMT
Litterbox offerings and hurked-up hairballs are wished upon the thieving
%#*@!&+ who put fraudulent charges on your credit card.

I hope that the false charges are removed pronto and the crook goes to
jail.

Donna, and Captain and Stanley who are ever at the ready to put some ammo
in the litterbox, if needed
Yowie - 22 Mar 2005 20:04 GMT
> Someone charged over $275 worth of stuff to my credit card.  It wasn't
> me or Steve and the cards have not been out of our possession.  Now we
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Grrrrrr!

Someone was charging US$10 a month to my credit card a few years ago, and I
hadn't noticed for a few months because it wasn't allt hat much. Once I
noticed it, it turned out to be an internet porn company. Contacting the
company was useless, they wanted to know 'my' password to stop the account,
despite the fact I explained to them that I had never opened an account with
them and they had no right to charge my card without permission.

I got my bank to refuse any charges from that company. The next month I got
a charge for another US$10 from another company. I got the bank to trace who
they were, and surprise surprise, they were a *subsiderary* (sp?) of the
parent company. At that point, I had to change credit card numbers.

And from that point on, I have checked every single charge against my credit
cards, and only use one particular one for things like internet purchases
and mail orders.

Yowie
 
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